And now for something completely different!

[TownsendPLocke]

Cannot figure out if this is on the level yet or not.I might contact"Ethan King"for an interveiw.

"Some of us do this because we LOVE it......and now I need your input..."

My name is Ethan King, a San Francisco (as of this week) based escort, model, and "adult film personality." Clients and readers of my site and blog send me emails everyday and I hear that when I am referred to in the forums, people comment on my professionalism and "realness." You see, I think you as clients deserve more and have never understood why do you not demand more. It seems to be acceptable for escorts to not call back, not show up, show up with one thing in mind.....and its not between your legs. For some reason I have heard stories where, "hey its okay that they stole" or agree to one thing and then "I only do oral" when they get there. To me that is totally being disrespectful to you and its time that a.) you demand better and b.) we teach and provide these lost souls with services and assistance that make stealing from our clients not only not necessary but hopefully clear headed enough to realize that is wrong. Maybe I am old fashioned, but you are our customer and my customer is supposed to be always right. I often see my colleagues treat you guys as though you are lucky if the escort shows up, but to me I see it that we are lucky if our phones ring. There are many escorts out there that taught me GREAT things along the way. This group much larger than you might expect, and I are tired of combating the reputation of shadiness, untrustworthiness, dishonesty, men who have sex for drugs because of a few lost escorts. I am NOT PLAYING HOLIER than thou because we have all lost our way at one time or another in our lives but I suppose I was blessed and had a wonderful network of family and friends and people to fall back on. The fact is a lot of these boys don’t have that network and being an escort is a tough, even when it is great.

I read on a forum the other day that not only was I a hot "fuck", but what made me special was that he could tell I loved being with him and something about needing more of me. Guys he's right, I do love it but I don't deserve a damn award for just being human. I don't wear a watch EVER, because I think its tacky to clock watch. You are the boss, if you are ready for me to leave, you will tell me. When you email me, I jump up to return it. If I say I will be somewhere I am there. If I am supposed to be there as myself, a TV repair man or a French Maid, I do it because I believe in my heart that its up to me to deliver the best quality product I can to my clients. I'm sure that is why thousands read my site a day and why my phone is always ringing, appointments are thick, etc. etc My case in point is that I am simply doing what an decent "employee" would do for their "boss." If I hated it, I would quit and I have publicly announced this on our side. Ask yourself this? Would you accept this behavior, business practices or manners at the Gap, or with the flight attendant on a flight, or at a hotel if they treated you like the way? I say you probably want...unless that is your fantasy and if that is the case FANTASTIC because there will always be some that are in the biz for the wrong reason.

To restore the image of escorts for my own selfish reasons, I have started the Escort Revolution. I have personally funded the legal costs of starting a 501©(3), non-profit organization, already signed a year lease in a nice building and next week am meeting a friend of mine that is in government. He is going to review and revise I am sure all of the grant proposals I am submitting. We will be meeting with lobbyists, congressmen etc. Now of course escort will be replaced with "troubled youth" but I am opening The Ethan King Foundation. This foundation will be resource center for escorts.....almost an escort frat. You can read all about it on my website rentEthan.com but there are programs that range from "Travel Emergency Assistance" to counseling services, to government referral programs, to emergency housing, to rehabilitation. I even have secured a 4 bedroom house that will be like a "bed & breakfast" with a pool and staff and such. You know I take it for granted that when I am burnt out, I can fly to see my Daddy or best friend. I have been successful at this career FIRST BECAUSE I LOVE IT but I must also wonder if I just feel that I have been blessed because I have had the resources. If I am uneasy about traveling to a clients house late, in a weird city, I can call my aunt 24/7 and let her know where I am going "just in case." Most don't have that. That's another program we will have called Escort Locator. I envision a single number that an escort has to dial and there will be guidance, resources and support. We will have a mentor program for those escorts that want to improve their skills. There are a TON of AMAZING escorts out there who are already volunteering to be part of the network.

. So help me, help them so we can improve service and quality to you. I have set up a 501©(3) organization for this project. That is how passionate I am about giving back while showing gratitude to all clients with a noticeable improvement in standards, service, and quality, while assisting those in need. What our goal is, is to provide them with resources and skills that will help bring pride, integrity, and morality to this profession. And guys, it benefits you the most. I am sure you think I am about to hit you up for money and I'm not. Like I said, I'm getting grants and have funded the rest myself because I believe that I have to "give back" even though its the worst time in my career to do it because things are GREAT and GROWING, I feel that the industry is in crisis. I think I will get back pride in my career, watching an industry that I love so much instill standards and police itself but most importantly watching quality product being created

What I want is your ideas, thoughts, experiences, etc. I also am appointing my Board of Directors which will be diverse group of men ranging from escorts, website owners in the business, to clients, retail owners, to advertising people, to crisis management professionals (another program), to people totally outside of the biz to gain perspective and ideas. I need to surround our board table with brilliant people and will be most successful if its diverse. My only requirement is that you want to improve the escorting industry and are willing to use your experiences to help us create programs. There will be NO board member who's solution is to end the industry (not that that will ever happen) or who can't think outside the box for solutions to their own complaints. This foundation will achieve so much because the ones who's heart isn't in it will be assisted in finding another industry, the quality escorts who love their job will now be policing and you as clients will receive the respect, quality and reliable service you deserve. Please email me your ideas to ethan@rentEthan.com, If you are interested in being a board member (you can live anywhere as I have a web-interactive board room at the new office) please email me at EthanKingFoundation@rescueteam.com. Thank you for listening and in advance for your help.

[Guest EurythmicThrust]

I know a little more about this...will monitor and keep all posted.

At the very least, the idea and intent is a noble one.

[Guest TNTTed]

Maybe a lofty endeavor. But, would you want a guy who openly barebacks (Safe Sex: “Neverâ€) as a mentor? What kind of “guidance, resources and support†would he promote?

[caeron]

My sentiments as well.

[Guest BFreeman]

Oh so just because he likes sex different than you means he can't do anything noble? I fuck him all the time and he is hot and he loves bareback but he is also bright as one human can be. Who's to judge here guys, really?? Learn more about the kid before you make statements like that.

[Guest eastburbguy]

Oh so just because he likes sex different than you means he can't do anything noble? I fuck him all the time and he is hot and he loves bareback but he is also bright as one human can be. Who's to judge here guys, really?? Learn more about the kid before you make statements like that.

With all due respect, BFreeman, his choice to bareback shows zero responsibility, so I would not want to be involved with him in any way, shape or form. Period. If that upsets you, so be it.

[Guest JCinVegas]

With all due respect, BFreeman, his choice to bareback shows zero responsibility, so I would not want to be involved with him in any way, shape or form. Period. If that upsets you, so be it.

What a closed and sheltered world you must live in Miss eastburbguy. When you can come down off your "holier than thou" kick you might realize the only difference between this kid and 90% of the other escorts is that he is just matter of fact about it. To each his own. As I have learned, much better to live and let live. Have you even ever met the kid or are you just making assumptions about him and passing judgment on him? And are you implying that anyone who barebacks is incompetent, not to be trusted, individual? Cause if that's the case, now you are offending me and probably this entire forum who if HONEST has barebacked before. So if he isn't for you, leave him alone rather than sit on your pedestal and look down upon people. By the way, the kid ROCKS IN BED.

[caeron]

It's not "holier than thou" to come down on behavior that spreads a deadly virus for which there is no cure. The long term treatment of HIV also rots your body. See the NY Times article I linked on the subject. HIV is not the common cold. Even if you're HIV positive, HIV mutates. Engaging in unsafe sex spreads the mutations and increases your odds of giving and getting something drug resistant.

This isn't a moral judgement, it's a simple IQ test. He fails.

[Guest TNTTed]

What a closed and sheltered world you must live in Miss eastburbguy.

Who’s living in a closed and sheltered world here? Anyone who actively condones potentially deadly behavior such as barebacking surely must have just emerged from under a rock.

...you might realize the only difference between this kid and 90% of the other escorts is that he is just matter of fact about it.

90%??? Did you bring that statistic out from under that same rock? That may be your experience simply because that’s what you seek.

And are you implying that anyone who barebacks is incompetent, not to be trusted, individual?

No. Just reckless and irresponsible.

Cause if that's the case, now you are offending me and probably this entire forum who if HONEST has barebacked before.

Count me out. It's never happened to me. HONEST!

By the way, the kid ROCKS IN BED.

Aha. Now I understand. You might try reasoning with the head on your shoulders, not the one in your pants.

[AdamSmith]

What a closed and sheltered world you must live in Miss eastburbguy.

Closed and sheltered world is where today's kids live who haven't seen a dozen friends waste away, or the physical toll that long-term HIV therapy can take.

[Guest JCinVegas]

Closed and sheltered world is where today's kids live who haven't seen a dozen friends waste away, or the physical toll that long-term HIV therapy can take.

Okay, okay, so it isn't for you, but who are you to judge others. You should all be ashamed. Not every escort is for every client and there is a market for all kinds. That is all that I am saying. He works for me, not for you. Big deal. And I don't trust any NY TImes article as their credibility as a source of journalism is very tainted. My case & point is that at least Ethan is doing something good with his name (which like it or not, he has built for himself) for greater good. Can we at least truce on that? He is thinking of other....us, the clients no less. In the meantime he actually helps the misguided or lost escorts. Does no one understand what I am saying or are you just all too scared to stand up for what you believe.

[Guest JakeTopLAX]

Okay, okay, so it isn't for you, but who are you to judge others. You should all be ashamed. Not every escort is for every client and there is a market for all kinds. That is all that I am saying. He works for me, not for you. Big deal. And I don't trust any NY TImes article as their credibility as a source of journalism is very tainted. My case & point is that at least Ethan is doing something good with his name (which like it or not, he has built for himself) for greater good. Can we at least truce on that? He is thinking of other....us, the clients no less. In the meantime he actually helps the misguided or lost escorts. Does no one understand what I am saying or are you just all too scared to stand up for what you believe.

I agree with you JC and that may make me a dumb ass but I read the original posting as this guy was trying to do something good for us. Did I misunderstand the original posting or did we get way off track on something that has absolutely nothing to do with what the guy is trying to do? I don't speak much but on this topic I think we should just be grateful that somebody out there actually treats us with some respect. Again, maybe I'm a dumb ass.

[Guest chillmaster01]

Okay, okay, so it isn't for you, but who are you to judge others. You should all be ashamed. Not every escort is for every client and there is a market for all kinds. That is all that I am saying. He works for me, not for you. Big deal. And I don't trust any NY TImes article as their credibility as a source of journalism is very tainted. My case & point is that at least Ethan is doing something good with his name (which like it or not, he has built for himself) for greater good. Can we at least truce on that? He is thinking of other....us, the clients no less. In the meantime he actually helps the misguided or lost escorts. Does no one understand what I am saying or are you just all too scared to stand up for what you believe.

I think we all or most agree that it is great he is doing something good by promoting good relations and communications and respect to some point. But to be a mentor when open about bareback I have only one thing to say and I will give you the link

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gLROUJXAs8

NO EXCUSES to put anyone at risk and being he barebacks I would never see him

[caeron]

Okay, okay, so it isn't for you, but who are you to judge others.

To repeat, it's not a moral judgement. If you drive 80 miles an hour through a school zone, we don't say "who are you to judge?" we say "that's dangerous and stupid."

It annoys the fuck out of me that people try to turn this into some moral judgement issue so they can get up on their high horse about "the man keeping them down". It has nothing to do with that. It's dangerous, reckless and irresponsible. If we didn't have a deadly plague that kills people, I'm sure those of us objecting would feel different. I barebacked in the early 80s when we didn't know much better. I haven't since. The whole idea that "everybody is doing it" is poisonous and false.

I watched enough people die. I'd rather come off as an asshole on the subject than an enabler. Your pretending this is a moral issue is blinding you to the more basic truth about what this behavior is about.

[Guest raulgmanzo]

Well I have NEVER barebacked. But I was lucky in that I didn't start experimenting with anal sex until after the risks of HIV infection were fairly well known. I'm sure there are many on this board who DID bareback in earlier years but I bet most now use a condom.

Raul

And are you implying that anyone who barebacks is incompetent, not to be trusted, individual? Cause if that's the case, now you are offending me and probably this entire forum who if HONEST has barebacked before.

[Guest JCinVegas]

Well I have NEVER barebacked. But I was lucky in that I didn't start experimenting with anal sex until after the risks of HIV infection were fairly well known. I'm sure there are many on this board who DID bareback in earlier years but I bet most now use a condom.

Raul

Everyone has the right to their own opinion. What works for you, may not be for me and visa versa. All I am saying is that Ethan is a grown adult and because he makes the decision to bareback DOES NOT make him a bad person nor does it reflect his ability to do good in the world and make a difference. Look I watched people die around me too. It hasn't been that long ago really. I do stand firm however that you would be alarmed at the number of people that do bareback and lie about it. I know from experience and from listening to the escorts I hire. I also think you should all educate yourself on the HIV virus and its place in todays world with advanced medicine. It is no longer a death sentence and for everyone to speak like it is is disheartening. Does anyone actually know for a fact if Ethan has anything or not or are we all just speculating? Just a question.

[caeron]

Read this article on living with HIV from the NY Times. If the disease doesn't kill you, the long term effects of the treatment probably will. We don't need the message out there that barebacking is ok. We don't need the message that those who object are just prudes. HIV is a killer. We're lucky we can hold it off for a while with drugs, but this isn't just a lifestyle choice.

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html...xprod=permalink

[Guest JCinVegas]

Read this article on living with HIV from the NY Times. If the disease doesn't kill you, the long term effects of the treatment probably will. We don't need the message out there that barebacking is ok. We don't need the message that those who object are just prudes. HIV is a killer. We're lucky we can hold it off for a while with drugs, but this isn't just a lifestyle choice.

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html...xprod=permalink

I don't read the communist times. I am a conservative Nevada boy. I guess I should be stoned too, huh? The only reason I started on this blog was because I was going to post a review about my time with Ethan while he was in Vegas. Now they (MaleEscortReview) won't post it. Very interesting but something I won't let go if I have to fly Ethan and myself to their corporate office. If everyone else gets to be reviewed so does he.

JC

[caeron]

I don't read the communist times. I am a conservative Nevada boy. I guess I should be stoned too, huh? The only reason I started on this blog was because I was going to post a review about my time with Ethan while he was in Vegas. Now they (MaleEscortReview) won't post it. Very interesting but something I won't let go if I have to fly Ethan and myself to their corporate office. If everyone else gets to be reviewed so does he.

JC

Translation: I am now embarrassed about arguing unsafe sex is a moral issue and am going to make random attacks on the NY times to avoid addressing the issue. Whatever.

[Guest JCinVegas]

Translation: I am now embarrassed about arguing unsafe sex is a moral issue and am going to make random attacks on the NY times to avoid addressing the issue. Whatever.

TRANSLATION: Caeron if you don't approve of unsafe sex then don't fucking have it. That doesn't give you the right to play "God" of judgement. Random attacks on the NY times, huh, hardly. If you consider that responsible, reliable journalism to be notable or noble then no one on this blog should trust your judgement anyway. So I'll bend over and you can kiss my latino ass.

[Guest JCinVegas]

Translation: I am now embarrassed about arguing unsafe sex is a moral issue and am going to make random attacks on the NY times to avoid addressing the issue. Whatever.

Caeron,

Its faggots like you that makes men like me rent boys instead of try to date them. Self righteous, judgmental, hypocritical, brain washed by the media, miserable individuals. I would much rather hang out with a cool escort, do what we do, have fun and stay happy. I hope you find happiness. Maybe get off this blog which screams, "I am a lonely, miserable person and my only friends are "virtual"

JC

[TotallyOz]

I don't read the communist times. I am a conservative Nevada boy. I guess I should be stoned too, huh? The only reason I started on this blog was because I was going to post a review about my time with Ethan while he was in Vegas. Now they (MaleEscortReview) won't post it. Very interesting but something I won't let go if I have to fly Ethan and myself to their corporate office. If everyone else gets to be reviewed so does he.

JC

Corporate offices are currently located in Brazil. Would you like to make an appointment? I'd love to meet you both. I assume Ethan is coming?

[Guest JCinVegas]

Corporate offices are currently located in Brazil. Would you like to make an appointment? I'd love to meet you both. I assume Ethan is coming?

For starters he doesn't care about this entire thing (shocked the hell out of Me) and you guys don't care (which is clear by the level of professionalism you display). For some reason I am the only dumb ass who cares. I'll meet you man to man anytime but I'll be damned I am going to Brazil to do it. When you are in Vegas and want to grab a drink, call me. As far as Ethan goes, I can't speak on his behalf--call him directly and hell he'll probably fly there and meet you. He is clearly too accommodating for his own freaking good and let's people talk shit like its nothing. I guess you get conditioned that way in ya'lls industry--glad I just rent the boys and am not one of the boys cause i'd kick all of your asses.

[Guest SouthernMan]

For starters he doesn't care about this entire thing (shocked the hell out of Me) and you guys don't care (which is clear by the level of professionalism you display). For some reason I am the only dumb ass who cares. I'll meet you man to man anytime but I'll be damned I am going to Brazil to do it. When you are in Vegas and want to grab a drink, call me. As far as Ethan goes, I can't speak on his behalf--call him directly and hell he'll probably fly there and meet you. He is clearly too accommodating for his own freaking good and let's people talk shit like its nothing. I guess you get conditioned that way in ya'lls industry--glad I just rent the boys and am not one of the boys cause i'd kick all of your asses.

JC, imo, you've been the only voice of reason in this thread!

Ethan is honestly open about barebacking, and that is clear to any potential clients. There are clients who are into barebacking only and Ethan caters to that segment of the market, and both the escort and the client in this scenario will come away satisfied. Two adults willingly engaged in a risky encounter that both agree to engage in. As such, where is the "harm"? Nowhere, imo.

Live and let live! Not an opinion that will fly with this judgmental group of self-annointed judges of all that is is true and holy!

I lmao at all the "holier than thou", posters on this site and other sites, that dictate to others how they should live, in accordance to their "personal" beliefs and mores, while engaged in activities and perversions that cause the majority of society to condemn them!

Really, did the closet light burn out? Too dark in that little box they live in? Frustrated closet cases, quick to judge others while cowering in the darkness, and condemnig those who are FREE!

Ignore the majority of the posters here, there and everywhere. They aren't worth the effort it takes to click your mouse and read their ignorant, ill-informed, hateful, judgmental diatribe!

I'd wage a small fortune that 80% of the posters both here and at the other place have never had a m2m encounter that didn't involve an exchange of money, and that 100% of those posters know nothing about what it means to be a gay man. Just my opinion!

[caeron]

[quote name='SouthernMan' date='Apr 7 2008, 08:54 PM' post='11802'

I'd wage a small fortune that 80% of the posters both here and at the other place have never had a m2m encounter that didn't involve an exchange of money, and that 100% of those posters know nothing about what it means to be a gay man. Just my opinion!

Yes, if you don't think it's cool to engage in suicidal behavior, you're not really gay. If you don't think its cool to engage in suicidal behavior, you're "holier than thou". No wonder so many gay kids are doing it, with cheerleaders like you guys around.