Gaybutton Posted March 19, 2007 Posted March 19, 2007 The article doesn't say whether they were arrested in connection with male or female minors, but since all four arrests occurred in Pattaya, it wouldn't be far fetched to guess that at least some of these were gay pedophile arrests. The article appears in the BANGKOK POST: http://www.bangkokpost.com/topstories/tops...s.php?id=117531 _____ Four Foreign Paedophile Suspects Held in Pattaya Bangkok (dpa) Thai police arrested four suspected paedophiles from Britain, Finland and the United States over the weekend at the notorious beach resort, initially charging them with abduction of minors. Police said on Monday they arrested the four men on Sunday, after complaints from the Child Protection Centre of Pattaya. They identified the men as British nationals Maurice John Praill and Stephen James Ellison, American Glenn Richard Allen, and Finnish citizen Ilkka Ylikojola. The arrests were by the Crimes Against Children and Women Suppression Division, which carried out the arrests. All four were arrested in police raids at their rented flats in Pattaya, which has become notorious in the past decade for its nightlife and sex industry. Child pornography and video equipment for making more porn were reportedly found in the four men's separate apartments. If convicted, the four face up to 20 years each in prison. "We made these arrests by coordinating with the embassies of the UK, US and Finland, which have provided records on child abusers from their countries," said Pol Maj-Gen Kamronwit Tupkrajang, commander of the special police division. All four suspects were initially charged with abduction of minors but may face further charges as the investigation into their activities in Pattaya unfolds, said Pol Maj-Gen Kamronwit. Quote
Guest luvthai Posted March 19, 2007 Posted March 19, 2007 The idea of keeping videos or photos around or on computer files is just the stupidist thing anyone can do. Not to mention making of the videos and engaging in internet porn. Its hard to feel sorry for anyone involved in this kind of business. In this case they should get what they deserve. Quote
Guest wowpow Posted March 20, 2007 Posted March 20, 2007 Innocent until proved guilty !! They are suspects !! Prejudice - When will they ever learn ? "Four foreign paedophile suspects held in Pattaya - Bangkok Post Bangkok (dpa) Thai police arrested four suspected paedophiles from Britain, Finland and the United States over the weekend at the notorious beach resort, initially charging them with abduction of minors. Police said on Monday they arrested the four men on Sunday, after complaints from the Child Protection Centre of Pattaya. They identified the men as British nationals Maurice John Praill and Stephen James Ellison, American Glenn Richard Allen, and Finnish citizen Ilkka Ylikojola. The arrests were by the Crimes Against Children and Women Suppression Division, which carried out the arrests. All four were arrested in police raids at their rented flats in Pattaya, which has become notorious in the past decade for its nightlife and sex industry. Child pornography and video equipment for making more porn were reportedly found in the four men's separate apartments. If convicted, the four face up to 20 years each in prison. "We made these arrests by coordinating with the embassies of the UK, US and Finland, which have provided records on child abusers from their countries," said Pol Maj-Gen Kamronwit Tupkrajang, commander of the special police division. All four suspects were initially charged with abduction of minors but may face further charges as the investigation into their activities in Pattaya unfolds, said Pol Maj-Gen Kamronwit." Bangkok Post Quote
Gaybutton Posted March 20, 2007 Author Posted March 20, 2007 Innocent until proved guilty !! They are suspects !! Not in Thailand. In Thailand you're guilty until proven innocent. Suspects? Technically, yes. Meanwhile, according to the article, their own embassies provided records of child abusers. I think it's a fair guess that they were on those records. Child pornography and video equipment for making porn were found in their apartments, and the Child Protection Centre of Pattaya filed complaints, but I'm prejudiced. Well, yes, I guess I am. Of course, I concede the possibility that these men, from three different countries, were set up with cooperation from their own embassies to do so, but somehow I doubt that scenario is likely. Quote
Guest wowpow Posted March 20, 2007 Posted March 20, 2007 In my heart I agree with you Gaybutton. Let's skip the expense of a trial and just castrate the bastards, preferably in public, and lock them up for life. Quote
Gaybutton Posted March 20, 2007 Author Posted March 20, 2007 In my heart I agree with you Gaybutton. Let's skip the expense of a trial and just castrate the bastards, preferably in public, and lock them up for life. Now you're talking! Seriously, though, I think everyone should have a right to a fair trial, with a non-biased, non-prejudiced jury, and I think these men should be entitled to that. I certainly have no disagreement with you about that issue. Obviously, even if juries existed in Thailand, I would not be a good candidate for their jury because I do believe these men are guilty and would be coming into it prejudiced. However, what I or anyone else believes doesn't change the facts. Maybe there really is an explanation and maybe they're not guilty of any wrongdoing at all. So, you're right. At this stage it's all allegation and they are suspects who have not yet been found guilty of anything. Unfortunately for them, they're the ones who will now have to prove to a Thai court that they are not guilty of the allegations. I believe, but I'm not sure, that you don't get off on technicalities in Thailand, such as police searches without search warrants. In any case, I'm glad I'm not in their shoes. When I wrote, "When will they ever learn?" I was trying to bring out that despite repeated arrests and repeated warnings on the web sites, there are still an extraordinary number people who come to Thailand and try to get away with it. Whether these men are actually a part of that number remains to be seen. Quote
Guest buaseng Posted March 20, 2007 Posted March 20, 2007 The article doesn't say whether they were arrested in connection with male or female minors, but since all four arrests occurred in Pattaya, it wouldn't be far fetched to guess that at least some of these were gay pedophile arrests. The Nation article on the same arrests states that they were charged with sexually abusing under-aged girls. (Not that it makes any difference, boys or girls - these sickos still need castrating, without anaesthetic) ! http://www.nationmultimedia.com/breakingne...newsid=30029673 . Quote
Guest luvthai Posted March 20, 2007 Posted March 20, 2007 It seems also that the four were wanted for sex crimes in their home countries and it was the h ome countries working with thai authorites that the actual arrest were made. Quote
