Are They THAT Brain Dead?

[Guest FourAces]

Over yonder there is a thread started by "dateaaronmpls" titled, "Aaron in Mpls Introducing Myself."

Ab out an hour after NCM2169 (aka eastburbguy) made the post as "aaron" he makes a post as NCM2169 welcoming Aaron, WTF???

btw NCM/Eastburbguy when you want to help out a escort friend it would be a bit more fair to be upfront about what you're doing. And maybe create a secondary photobucket account and maybe not test the new registration login within one minute of your own login LOL

I'm certain Aaron is real and I'm just as certain NCM/Eastburbguy intentions are not as honorable as he wants you all to believe. Even Scott Adler was always upfront when introducing his newest pals.

For me, it was just too amusing to go without comment.

Happy Thanksgiving to the American readers

[Guest FourAces]

WOW several people over yonder question NCm on HIS introduction post and an hour later his surprise welcome post to his own post and they get a muddle reply from NCM LOL.

NCM claims he is doing nothing but helping Aaron (and Shane) yet the reality is he gets a percentage of all the appointments they book. Yes that is the reality guys. He is LYING when he states otherwise.

I know the boys have been reaching out to more established escorts around the country asking for better advice and basically survival advice at this point. Lets hope they receive it before NCM totally destroys these young men.

[Guest Conway]

I'm the first to admit that I don't understand the politics between this posters on message center and/or the one over at the other escort review site. I've never even met any of the posters on either.

But, it seems to me that, if the poster that you reference herein, has reached an agreement to provide marketing services for certain escorts, and if those escorts have agreed to pay him a fee from each of their referrals from his efforts as compensation for that marketing, why would he (or they for that matter) be obligated to reveal that arrangement to the general escort hiring public? If they are having second thoughts about paying him for that service, perhaps they should try to justify a renegotiation of that fee with him directly.

I certainly would hire either of these two. And, I would have never known that they existed had it not been for the posts made about them here. In that regard, the poster in question has provided a service of value to them. Certainly, if I were to hire either, it would be because of the purported marketing efforts of NCM that you reference in your post.

We don't expect disclaimers from marketers in the general advertising business, or at least, I don't. So, why would you expect a disclaimer with regard to this?

It is wise to view the marketing efforts of any one person with a certain under reliance upon that opinion until it is supported by independent opinions of others. The market seems to be bearing itself out where these two escorts are concerned in a positive way. Thus, I am grateful that NCM made the introduction of these two to this community

[Guest FourAces]

But, it seems to me that, if the poster that you reference herein, has reached an agreement to provide marketing services for certain escorts, and if those escorts have agreed to pay him a fee from each of their referrals from his efforts as compensation for that marketing, why would he (or they for that matter) be obligated to reveal that arrangement to the general escort hiring public?

It makes a difference because he pretends not to know them, then knows them, then writes reviews on them all the while promoting them for HIS profit. If the owner of say Campus Escorts in NYC began writing reviews on their guys everyone would freak out .. but in plain sight NCM/Eastburbguy is doing just that.

Sure its nice he brought the guys to light but he crossed the boundary of being a good meaning client to a client with a financial interest. He needs to be upfront about his motives or others need to hold him accountable.

[Guest SouthernMan]

It makes a difference because he pretends not to know them, then knows them, then writes reviews on them all the while promoting them for HIS profit. If the owner of say Campus Escorts in NYC began writing reviews on their guys everyone would freak out .. but in plain sight NCM/Eastburbguy is doing just that.

Sure its nice he brought the guys to light but he crossed the boundary of being a good meaning client to a client with a financial interest. He needs to be upfront about his motives or others need to hold him accountable.

And just what does it say about a site, this being one of the two main sites, that post reviews, that allow a "bogus" review from a PIMP about his latest internet HO? To me, it means that both this site and the other, are just not worth the effort, and are totally useless as far as an honest review goes.

[Guest FourAces]

And just what does it say about a site, this being one of the two main sites, that post reviews, that allow a "bogus" review from a PIMP about his latest internet HO? To me, it means that both this site and the other, are just not worth the effort, and are totally useless as far as an honest review goes.

I've actually been on the circut the past five months ... so I really haven't been keeping up to date with all the goo from the boards. Came home for a mental break from the road and was amused by what NCM did over yonder ... but if he also posted a review of one of those guys who he takes a percentage from on all bookings then that is completely wrong ... YOU should know I agree 100% with you on that. And both sites are wrong in publishing the press release.

[Guest PWIT]

I have no problems with the 'press release'. Actually see it as more of a letter of introduction and something I wouldn't mind seeing more of actually. Whether it comes from the escort himself, a fellow escort, patron, etc., I don't really care as long as it brings awareness of new talent. The message board/review process has a way of surfacing critiques/experiences once new talent comes to light. In general, I am not one for placing limits on information - that does leave responsibility on the reader to validate the information and consider the source.

As far as NCM, I have been following his postings on the boards and I thought he was very forthcoming with his relations with the Mpls escorts. But I missed where NCM is taking a cut - to which thread or source is that attributed? Or was it an assumption?

[Guest FourAces]

I have no problems with the 'press release'. Actually see it as more of a letter of introduction and something I wouldn't mind seeing more of actually. Whether it comes from the escort himself, a fellow escort, patron, etc., I don't really care as long as it brings awareness of new talent. The message board/review process has a way of surfacing critiques/experiences once new talent comes to light. In general, I am not one for placing limits on information - that does leave responsibility on the reader to validate the information and consider the source.

As far as NCM, I have been following his postings on the boards and I thought he was very forthcoming with his relations with the Mpls escorts. But I missed where NCM is taking a cut - to which thread or source is that attributed? Or was it an assumption?

So if I understand you correctly I can pretend not to know an escort ... lets even go as far as he is a terrible escort .. I bring him to the attention of all. I write a positive review of him under a different name or even my user id, then I continue to push him without telling anyone that I am actually acting as a so called manager to him and take a percentage of his earnings .. and gonna make a lot of money off the clients who fall for the fake press not knowing I am behind the escort... this all would be ok with you from what you stated.

Because that is what NCM is doing .. the ONLY reason he became forthcoming is due to posters who began to hold him accountable. One is not forthcoming when one MAKES a introduction posts then pretends one did not make that post and pretends one does not have any involvement in the escort an hour later and welcomes him to the forum.

And to answer your other question it is fact not an assumption.

[Guest PWIT]

So if I understand you correctly I can pretend not to know an escort ... lets even go as far as he is a terrible escort .. I bring him to the attention of all. I write a positive review of him under a different name or even my user id, then I continue to push him without telling anyone that I am actually acting as a so called manager to him and take a percentage of his earnings .. and gonna make a lot of money off the clients who fall for the fake press not knowing I am behind the escort... this all would be ok with you from what you stated.

Yes...that would be OK with me. For me, there is some value in the information, but I would not rely on a single source unless I had developed some level of trust in the poster (i.e. KYTOP's opinion on escorts is a near gold standard for me). Sort of the trust but verify mentality I guess.

And to answer your other question it is fact not an assumption.

Can you share the source of this fact? As above with reliance on information about an escort, sort of have the same reliance on any unsubstantiated statement of fact. Not that I have a dog in this fight at all, as I have no business or personal reasons that will take me to Mpls, but I am curious nonetheless.

[Guest Conway]

I agree with PWIT. NCM and I have much the same taste in boys. In the past, I have come to rely upon him and his opinion as being good recommendations for my own taste. The fact that he may be receiving a fee for recommending an escort has no bearing upon my decision to hire that escort as long as the escort ends up being what is advertised.

After all, I'm hiring the boy. Not his referral source.

[Guest FourAces]

I agree with PWIT. NCM and I have much the same taste in boys. In the past, I have come to rely upon him and his opinion as being good recommendations for my own taste. The fact that he may be receiving a fee for recommending an escort has no bearing upon my decision to hire that escort as long as the escort ends up being what is advertised.

After all, I'm hiring the boy. Not his referral source.

You and PWIT are missing my point. I could care less if NCM/Eastburbguy takes all their money, part of their money or a small percentage of their money.

I do care, however, about ethics. I feel that if he was upfront from the start and said, 'hey I'm representing these guys here they are come and look and hire away' then I would have not found his cloak and dagger approach so amusing. But instead his awww and shocks and golly routine was offensive to anyone paying attention. But as I mentioned most are simply brain dead.

Anyway guys time to hit the circuit again ... as much fun as the past few days have been I need to concentrate on little rectangular cards with funny markings on them and when I'm on the road I rarely check these forums. This tour will take me through the end of the year so Happy and Safe Holidays to all

[Guest eastburbguy]

Over yonder there is a thread started by "dateaaronmpls" titled, "Aaron in Mpls Introducing Myself."

Ab out an hour after NCM2169 (aka eastburbguy) made the post as "aaron" he makes a post as NCM2169 welcoming Aaron, WTF???

btw NCM/Eastburbguy when you want to help out a escort friend it would be a bit more fair to be upfront about what you're doing. And maybe create a secondary photobucket account and maybe not test the new registration login within one minute of your own login LOL

I'm certain Aaron is real and I'm just as certain NCM/Eastburbguy intentions are not as honorable as he wants you all to believe. Even Scott Adler was always upfront when introducing his newest pals.

For me, it was just too amusing to go without comment.

Happy Thanksgiving to the American readers

I did not pay attention to this Message Board over the long weekend, and I only recently read this thread.

My my! We certainly do have some creative people contributing to this thread - some people who are so creative they can make stories up out of thin air!!

I will only say this once, so if anyone is interested or cares (I can't imagine why you would), read it here and only here.

I do not now nor have I ever had any kind of an arrangement with any escort whereby the escort pays me or gives me anything related to his escorting.* I do not now nor have I ever received a percentage, a share, or any part of any escort's fee for anything. Period.

* The reason I added, "related to his escorting" is because my roommate is an escort and money goes back and forth all the time, but it has nothing to do with his escorting.

I suppose it would be too much to ask for those who have posted outright lies in this thread to apologize and retract them. I'm certainly not holding my breath.

You know, I'm a big boy and I can take care of myself. I've been around these message boards for several years and I see this shit come and go, including the shit purveyors who also come and go under different handles.

But it really is low when someone's need to fabricate is so strong that he uses two hot young guys who are new to the business as pawns in his lies. I am referring to the implication by one poster who seems to suggest that he has some inside information when he talks of certain Mpls escorts "reaching out to more established escorts around the country." If it wasn't such a sick allegation, I'd be on the floor laughing. Need I even say it? Garbage, pure, unadulterated garbage. Again.

So, having set the record straight for those who are willing to listen to the facts, what I am left with is this. Why? Why does someone here deliberately set out to smear another member and poster here? Why? Why does that person make up outright and outrageous lies about another member and poster here? Why? :(

I don't really expect an answer - well, a truthful one that is.

Oh, by the way. If any poster in this thread who has made allegations about me or two new Mpls escorts has any proof to support those allegations, I am sure we'd all like to see it.

You might say, show 'em or fold 'em.

[Guest eastburbguy]

I did not pay attention to this Message Board over the long weekend, and I only recently read this thread.

My my! We certainly do have some creative people contributing to this thread - some people who are so creative they can make stories up out of thin air!!

I will only say this once, so if anyone is interested or cares (I can't imagine why you would), read it here and only here.

I do not now nor have I ever had any kind of an arrangement with any escort whereby the escort pays me or gives me anything related to his escorting.* I do not now nor have I ever received a percentage, a share, or any part of any escort's fee for anything. Period.

* The reason I added, "related to his escorting" is because my roommate is an escort and money goes back and forth all the time, but it has nothing to do with his escorting.

I suppose it would be too much to ask for those who have posted outright lies in this thread to apologize and retract them. I'm certainly not holding my breath.

You know, I'm a big boy and I can take care of myself. I've been around these message boards for several years and I see this shit come and go, including the shit purveyors who also come and go under different handles.

But it really is low when someone's need to fabricate is so strong that he uses two hot young guys who are new to the business as pawns in his lies. I am referring to the implication by one poster who seems to suggest that he has some inside information when he talks of certain Mpls escorts "reaching out to more established escorts around the country." If it wasn't such a sick allegation, I'd be on the floor laughing. Need I even say it? Garbage, pure, unadulterated garbage. Again.

So, having set the record straight for those who are willing to listen to the facts, what I am left with is this. Why? Why does someone here deliberately set out to smear another member and poster here? Why? Why does that person make up outright and outrageous lies about another member and poster here? Why? :(

I don't really expect an answer - well, a truthful one that is.

Oh, by the way. If any poster in this thread who has made allegations about me or two new Mpls escorts has any proof to support those allegations, I am sure we'd all like to see it.

You might say, show 'em or fold 'em.

I can't help but note that just when the heat was getting turned up under FourJokers, and he was being pressed for proof, he chose that moment to take an extended hike. A liar and a coward? Do you suppose that's what makes him so creative?

[Guest eastburbguy]

I can't help but note that just when the heat was getting turned up under FourJokers, and he was being pressed for proof, he chose that moment to take an extended hike. A liar and a coward? Do you suppose that's what makes him so creative?

Btw, I just realized some here may not know that I am ncm2169 on the other site. I used to have a signature here that said that - I wonder what happened to it??