Guest twinklover Posted February 6, 2007 Posted February 6, 2007 >So I am wondering why these guys bother putting ads up if >they do not want the buisiness? Good question. I check out Craigslist in SF fequently because you never know when some cute new guy will put up an ad. Once in a blue moon I score. Recently there's been a big backlash to the phony trashy escorts posting every day in SF. Their ads are flagged and there's been public complaints about the frauds and flagging. It's funny seeing these old frauds try to defend their out-of-date pics and misrepresentations. But it wouldn't be funny at all if you're a business traveller and don't know all the phony/misleading ads. Be VERY CAREFUL with anything you may find on Craigslist in SF. Notwitstanding the above, I have found a few gems on CL in SF including one guy I continue to see and who now has a profile here. Ryunosuke in SF is a hot and sweet young guy. He's mixed race and very smooth and twinkish. He has done some porn and is a fabulous companion. I don't give my highest seal of approval to many escorts. Trey Thurston, for example, is very highly recommended. Ryunosuke is also highly recommended. Quote
Members Lucky Posted February 6, 2007 Members Posted February 6, 2007 Why bother? Why do people look for diamonds in manure fields? Quote
Members BenjaminNicholas Posted February 6, 2007 Members Posted February 6, 2007 Good comparison Lucky CL, especially in California, is a hotbed for vice-squad related busts against both escorts and clientele. I wouldn't touch that site with a ten foot pole, much less think it's a breeding ground for quality escorts. Often times you end up getting what you pay for. Sure, CL serves its purpose for working guys, as it attracts the newbies who are desperately looking to make their car payment or the over-the-hillers who can't find work anywhere else. I wouldn't consider it a good option (or ad space) for those who are in their prime or wanting to attract a higher-end clientele. Aside from the marketing aspect, i've heard that CL is swarming with police activity. Seems to me like looking for a million dollars in a mine field. Eventually, all Russian roulette games come to a messy end. Be careful guys. Be safe. BN Quote
Members TownsendPLocke Posted February 6, 2007 Members Posted February 6, 2007 But I am not looking for anything near the high end.I (was)looking for the type of fella that used to work Polk Street/Santa Monica Boulevard.Numbers/Hunters/Haymarket/Halsted street/etc,,,,That is what turns me on -a lot! I have played with some great high end fellas-but they are not the rare bird these days.A hot trashy bit of trade-who needs help with his rent/car payment is the thing that is the treasure these days. How I do miss the wonderous trade of yore! Quote
Members Lucky Posted February 7, 2007 Members Posted February 7, 2007 I monitor the Palm Springs listings from time to time but have never bitten. I do wonder how stupid some of these people are: smoking and staying up late looking for company - 34 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Reply to: pers-274187252@craigslist.org Date: 2007-02-06, 2:00AM PST here partying looking for other like minded go fast men to pnp with at my place in south palm springs rick 760 four nine zero **** Quote
Members TownsendPLocke Posted February 7, 2007 Members Posted February 7, 2007 Hey-That is an ex of My best friend!He is pretty stupid-and a snake also1 Quote
Guest bakopanda Posted February 7, 2007 Posted February 7, 2007 I have had very good success with CL erotic services in Las Vegas, Phoenix, and Indianapolis. The response time to my emails is certainly faster with CL than the escort websites. Most of my travel is recreational and planned in advance, so I have the advantage of looking through the CL listings weeks ahead of time. My preference is for working guys - 20s, tall, defined, white/latin - who offer erotic massage "plus". ;-) Quote
Guest twinklover Posted February 7, 2007 Posted February 7, 2007 "so I have the advantage of looking through the CL listings weeks ahead of time. My preference is for working guys - 20s, tall, defined, white/latin" I applaud you for looking through the ads weeks in advance and separating the wheat from the chaff. I can only attest to CL listings in SF. There are about 5% to 10% that are legitimate and minimally desirable. And I like trashy street trade myself. I really don't care about the price at all (even outrageously high "varying" prices depending on what you look like, what you want to do, whether the escort can accommodate you with a clean asshole, etc.). I find these factors to be outrageous. The high-priced escorts who vary their prices depending on how "disgusting" their clients are equally disgusting to me. I would never hire them no matter how much their fees were discounted. I wouldn't take them for free or even if they paid me. Does that communicate the degree of repulsiveness? Now here's the truth. I don't care about price or money at all as long as my escort is incredibly slutty and eager. With few exceptions, I find most high-end escorts (and a much higher percentage of low-end escorts) to be very boring. INCREDIBLY BORING! I'm much more turned on reading a review by StuCotts or SilverDollar or certain others than I am being with certain escorts. That's why I don't even bother to review them.The world has changed, totally changed, in terms of escorts, hustlers and working boys. Let's be honest--most of them these days SUCK. Even worse, I mean they don't even know how to SUCK. They're pitiful! But a boy like Kevin of Montreal gives me a lttle hope, as well as a few others out there, like Trey Thurston, Jonathan Lowe, Ryunosuke, etc. A VERY FEW. I don't care about all the nice and flattering reviews. Many clients, icluding me, are much too accepting of high and outrageous prices combined with crappy service from so-so and average-looking escorts. Quote
Members Lucky Posted February 7, 2007 Members Posted February 7, 2007 Townie, your dumb friend was on again last night. He makes it clear that he has the favors and even gives his phone number. So, if CL is a hotbed of police, as some say, look for pinstripes soon! Quote
Guest StuCotts Posted February 7, 2007 Posted February 7, 2007 Like everything else in this town, the CL lists are overcrowded. Just hacking through the thicket for the 1% or 2% that are potentially acceptable is drudgery. Assuming that I spot a very few I'm willing to try contacting and that I get a reply, I have to work at making them understand that looks are all very well, but I don't do trade or put up with stinking crotches and asses. If that gets me attitude I respond in kind or just hang up. If they sound disappointed I may in charity remind them that there are lots of clients who not only put up with those things, but insist on them. However the conversation goes, by the end of it I've lost all interest and likely gone off my feed. So much for CL. Plodding through rentboy and others of its ilk for their ±5% is only marginally less tiresome. But what else to do? Take to the streets, bars or baths? They have even less to offer me than the options considered here. Rentboy-type escorts are, as a group, more courteous than the CL bunch. But everything you say about how dull and/or overpriced a lot of them are is sadly true. Yet, even the yawn-inducers seem to do a brisk business, regardless of fee schedule. Like you, I'm distressed at the many reviews that are clear on just how little it takes to make some guys feel like they've had a real sexual experience, and how much they're prepared to pay for a wishy-washy time. As long as the bar is set so low by so many, probably most, clients, nothing will improve. Writing reviews -- at least for MER, where an honest review gets honest treatment -- is an attempt to show what is out there, for better or worse. But how many clients review? Maybe 0.1%? And in the whole universe of reviews, how many are honest? Damn few. For that reason, I wish you would rethink your aversion to writing reviews of escorts who were flops, if only for the good they'll do the rest of us. All the above represents my strictly personal experience. I'm getting it off my chest in full awareness that I may be labeled a wet blanket. I've been called worse for less. Quote
Guest twinklover Posted February 8, 2007 Posted February 8, 2007 >>>I don't do trade or put up with >stinking crotches and asses. If that gets me attitude I >respond in kind or just hang up. If they sound disappointed I >may in charity remind them that there are lots of clients who >not only put up with those things, but insist on them. >However the conversation goes, by the end of it I've lost all >interest and likely gone off my feed. So much for CL. StuCotts, I think I'm falling in love with you. >For that reason, I wish you would rethink your aversion to >writing reviews of escorts who were flops, if only for the >good they'll do the rest of us. I agree the flops should be reviewed. The problem is I haven't had a reviewable experience with a flop worth writing about at least for the last half year. Luckily for me, I've managed to avoid notable flops, including by sending people away at the door. When I look at some of these ads with my ex bf, we just laugh and move on. We have an expression for a certain kind of escort that was "coined" in honor of SilverDollar, a very distinguished escort reviewer. The expression is "there's an escort who looks like he gives you a SilverDollar massage." I just love this review which is reminiscient of some failed sessions of my own over the years. http://www.maleescortreview.com/index.php?...rt_id=206090017 Btw, since the last admin note, Aaron reincarnated as "Patton" has changed his phone number and put up new phony pics on rentboy. He also continues to post on CL from time to time. Quote
Guest StuCotts Posted February 8, 2007 Posted February 8, 2007 >StuCotts, I think I'm falling in love with you. Aw, shucks. ( shuffle, shuffle ) >I just love this review which is reminiscient of some failed >sessions of my own over the years. I remember the review from when it was first posted. I really sympathized with SD, but mostly I admired how cool and to the point he was, where he could have been all flailing and apopletic in the face of rank dishonesty. Quote
Members xenophile Posted February 19, 2007 Members Posted February 19, 2007 Speaking for myself, I've had delightful success with the Los Angeles Craigslist. I've honed it down to an art, with a few "custom" types of response e-mails for the different types of guys I'm interested in. I'll do 2 or 3 rounds of e-mail, trying to find out if they kiss/go down and do fetishes (my big interest here), money afterwards and no upcharges (I note these are instant disqualifiers...) then switch to phone. This weeds out the tweakers and the fakes. I've met 6 excellent guys and 4 so-so guys with no stinkers in the last two months with followup dates for 3 of the best, an excellent track record if I do say so myself. Thing is, I'm most interested in a regular weekly thing... Matt, my current regular is getting ready to move to Texas, so I'm shopping for a new weekly guy... I'm going to have the damnest time making up my mind, a nice problem to have :-) Here's to Virtual Boyfriends! -=>X<=- Quote
Guest StuCotts Posted February 19, 2007 Posted February 19, 2007 Xenophile* -- CL more than survives; it thrives. That must mean it has lots of fans. It's refreshing to hear from one of you who have succeeded in making it work for you, which I and many others certainly have not. Part of the explanation must be that you are looking for a steady date, and are prepared to be as patient and as cautious as you need to be to achieve the objective. Such is not the case for those of us who live by the words of the philosopher: "Men. Lots of men. 'Cause one man ain't quite enough." We who don't flinch from the title of floozy or from what goes into earning it have to call on qualities that lie far from patience and caution. Long>short: anything more laborious or time-consuming than separating the elect from the damned on rentboy is still out of the question. *Great screen name. I wish I'd thought of it. Quote
Members TownsendPLocke Posted February 19, 2007 Members Posted February 19, 2007 Is it me or are others finding Craigslist to be a big old waste of time? For a this last weekends trip to SF I contacted 6 different fellas.ONLY ONE responded to my initial inquiry-and he did not respond to a follow up email.I know these fellas must get bore by email tag but If I don't get a phone number in the first response how else can I contact the guy? This is not the first time this has happned=happens all the time to me in Las Vegas. So I am wondering why these guys bother putting ads up if they do not want the buisiness? Quote
Guest GMD1 Posted February 26, 2007 Posted February 26, 2007 There are several escorts on Craigslist for Toronto, that advertise elsewhere. Some of those escorts, Justin Wakefield for example, have excellent reviews. Quote
Members TownsendPLocke Posted March 16, 2007 Members Posted March 16, 2007 Contacted EIGHT guys for my weekend in San Diego-NOT A SINGLE RESPONSE! Quote
Members TownsendPLocke Posted February 4, 2008 Members Posted February 4, 2008 I was in San Francisco this past weekend and contacted 6 guys on craigslist. One kept emailing me after I told him to call me on my cell. One was soooooo dumb -said his phone was out of service and to keep in touch via email(maybe an investment of $1 to make $150 just did not make financial sense to him ) No word from the other 4. Again I must ask-why do they bother? Quote
TotallyOz Posted February 5, 2008 Posted February 5, 2008 Again I must ask-why do they bother? I have to agree with you. I have called Craig's List the Stellas Bar of the new century. Stellas was known for hot boys but hustler, flakes and liars. The same seemed to be true in NYC when I tried to hook up. Many no responses. Many responded with weird questions and many just flakes. I did find some cute guys on there but it as luck and not the majority of the guys I met. Quote
Guest EurythmicThrust Posted February 5, 2008 Posted February 5, 2008 I was in San Francisco this past weekend and contacted 6 guys on craigslist.One kept emailing me after I told him to call me on my cell. One was soooooo dumb -said his phone was out of service and to keep in touch via email(maybe an investment of $1 to make $150 just did not make financial sense to him ) No word from the other 4. Again I must ask-why do they bother? Hey Townie- I emailed you thru the PM here on MER- did u receive it? BTW, Craigslist-SF is a true dice role- on rainy weekends its basically useless as the boys seem less inclined to travel- one would think rainy weekend would drive UP business- more clients "ordering in" and not going to the clubs and such. Quote
Members TownsendPLocke Posted February 5, 2008 Members Posted February 5, 2008 Sorry Eurythmyic Thrust=no privates PM's in my box ? Quote
Guest AntonNedvedev Posted February 5, 2008 Posted February 5, 2008 I have to agree that CL is a total waste of time, from an escorts side of the fence as well. I wish some of you guys had found me on delaware CL, we could have had some good times. It generates alot of emails, and some noshows, but that's about it. In 5 months I have not had a single appt. made and kept from CL. I don't know why I keep posting on there. Maybe it's cuz I get a kick out of some of the emails. I think the most common response I get is, you're cute but I don't pay for sex. Ok, then why did you respond to my ad? It is in erotic services afterall. The funniest ones are the ones that respond to my posts in the regular M4M section, and the ones that respond to my emails when i initate contact. I post my ad, and then answer emails with a link to my myspace and a link to my profile on here. Personally I think it's pretty funny when someone with an extremely graphic ad themself answers you back all offended that I am an escort and I tried to talk to them. As for rentboy, that's a waste of time to IMO and I'm glad my first month was free and I could cancel without having to pay anything. I got a grand total of 4 contacts from it and 3 of them wanted to talk dirty to me, and ALL of them called at like 2-5am. Granted I'm new to this, but why would you call an escort to make an appt at 5am on a Saturday morning. I'm either with my client from Friday night or sleeping LOL Maybe it's just me. Oh well, there has got to be some good advertising sites out there besides here and myspace. Anyone know where they are? I gotta get business picking up somehow lol Quote
Guest AntonNedvedev Posted February 5, 2008 Posted February 5, 2008 hmm... add dudesnude to that list of wastes of time too. Just spent an hour IM'ing with this dude only to have him get pissed off, rude, and insulting when I wouldn't meet with him for free. People are strange LOL Quote
Guest EurythmicThrust Posted February 6, 2008 Posted February 6, 2008 Sorry Eurythmyic Thrust=no privates PM's in my box ? Hey Townie- I private messaged you (PM) day before you left for your trip to SF using the MER system here...I will try again now... Quote
