Review from a lady?

[Guest StuCotts]

Sorry, dear. The comment you find objectionable is not mine. It's next to mine. Have you had the prescription on your lorgnette checked lately?

[Guest epigonos]

Hey deej thanks for the kind remark regarding respect -- the feeling is completely mutual. I got a kick out of the two pieces of information you indicate that we receive from reviews written by women. Yes we do learn that the escort is working and seeing clients. Now the second one gave me a good laugh -- that we learn the escort had not satisfied his client. That the escort didn't satisfy a female client doesn't tell me anthing about what he will be like with a male client.

Frankly I don't have a problem with a site accepting reviews written by women so long as they are posted in a completely separate forum from those written by men. However, in my opinion, if and when this is done it changes completely the concept of what I thought this site was all about.

To the poster who thought we should lighten up this tread I agree and hope this post is taken with that in mind. The very idea that reviews written by women might assist gay men in their selecting of escorts is in actuality a hoot.

[Guest RR]

Wow, we sure did get people hot under the collar on this one. Personally, if I were a woman looking for an escort I would not becon this site, but there are alot of guys on here who might be willing to accomodate them........

So maybe it was not so bad to post the review. It indeed would not help be decide to hire, but it is information that might be useful to someone out there in the internet world.

Russianrob

[Guest ScottAdler]

>Now the second one gave me a good

>laugh -- that we learn the escort had not satisfied his

>client. That the escort didn't satisfy a female client

>doesn't tell me anthing about what he will be like with a male

>client.

As I alluded to in my first post I think that the fact the escort didn't satisfy a female client IS important because there is congruency to situations with men.

Rimming, kissing, general will and won't do's. If an escort told her he'd be willing to do these things and then backed out, who's to say he won't do the same things with his male clients.

We're not discussing our client's taste for pussy in this review, we're discussing the escort's. He claims to be mostly straight thus pussy shouldn't be a problem for him. If he said that he'd do it and didn't -- that's what male clients should be taking away from this review.

[Guest PWIT]

>Sorry, dear. The comment you find objectionable is not mine.

> It's next to mine. Have you had the prescription on your

>lorgnette checked lately?

doh! Will make my appointment now! :7

[Guest PWIT]

>We're not discussing our client's taste for pussy in this

>review, we're discussing the escort's. He claims to be mostly

>straight thus pussy shouldn't be a problem for him. If he

>said that he'd do it and didn't -- that's what male clients

>should be taking away from this review.

I don't know Scotty, I tend to cut him a little more slack I guess. But good to know you will follow through no matter the hygiene of the client. Next time I will not bother to shower! LOL :+

[Guest ScottAdler]

>I don't know Scotty, I tend to cut him a little more slack I

>guess. But good to know you will follow through no matter

>the hygiene of the client. Next time I will not bother to

>shower! LOL :+

"Alex did not do what was agreed upon when we spoke on the phone. He did not kiss nor go down on me. He said he doesn't go down on women he doesn't know"

Hygeine is of course important. I agree and of course cut him slack and was surprised that he responded and said the woman was in fact a client. She seemed like an obvious vengeance review.

However it says right there that he made it clear to her that he would go down on her and kiss her. Thus his response to her shouldn't have been the "women he doesn't know," it should have been a polite request to clean up as I have made in the past when even less than rarely applicable.

[KYTOP]

>I see a lot of pussy-phobia here, but not a lot of honest

>evaluation.

I disagree. I am a GAY man that enjoys sex with men. This is as "honest" as I can be...I do not have sex with nor do I hire females for sex. I do not wish to know about str8 sex and cannot relate to it as far as how I could be satisfied from it,or a description of it, because I can't... I'm GAY. Why would anyone expect GAY men to enjoy reading about an escort having str8 sex? How many GAY men can really relate to it? We are GAY.

Pussy-phobia sounds like a discriminatory term. Does that mean I discriminate against women because I don't have sex with them?

The powers to be with this site need to decide if this a GAY site or not. If it is a GAY site then why does it have str8 reviews on it? If it is to be a mixed site then so be it. Just advertise it as such and let us all know. I don't watch str8 porn and I don't visit str8 sex websites, I visit GAY ones.

[AdamSmith]

Furthermore they must decide whether this site is to be a PICKLE-FREE zone or not! :7

http://extremejokes.com/images/pickle.jpg

(TY have mercy on me...) :+

[Guest PWIT]

>However it says right there that he made it clear to her that

>he would go down on her and kiss her. Thus his response to

>her shouldn't have been the "women he doesn't know,"

>it should have been a polite request to clean up as I have

>made in the past when even less than rarely applicable.

I'm sure that would have went over well with her and would have resulted in a glorious review.

You know, people that don't know us may think we are arguing! :+

[Guest PWIT]

>It’s not easy being a hypocrite…….

I just paid attention to the change in subject title, actually, I found being a hypocrite is very easy.....NOT being a hypocrite is hard

[AdamSmith]

Scott, we have got to see each other one of these days! I admit your online demeanor used to put me off, but the more of you I read, the more I love it. Go figure!

I think I fell for you completely when you wrote "Hail to thee, thane of Jawja!"

[Guest Riptide]

First time poster here. Thought I'd register and chime into this very interesting controversy. I basically have two thoughts on the topic of this site accepting reviews from from female clients highlighting their experience with registered male escorts at this site.

1- There are over (from what the total members count on the homepage reflects) ten thousand members here. My observation over the past few months is that there are less than twenty active posters in this forum, which seems to be where all the discontent is coming from. I don't know if the forums drive the business, but unless there is a considerable drop off of membership, I'd listen but not overact to the minority.

2- If this site chooses to accept reviews from females, reviewing registered male escorts here, then it seems to me to be a double standard to make such comments as, "if they get to be too many, then we will stop them" or something to that sentiment. That speaks to a lack of vision and control as to what this site wants to be or become.

Personally, if people cannot seperate gay and straight reviews when doing their search, then they perhaps shouldn't be relying on an open ended data base which is simply in place to provide information.

I remember the days when I was excluded from most things simply because I was openly gay. Those days, espicially with the internet, whether you're gay or unfortunately str8, (hehe) should be so far behind us that our furture vision(s) should not even entertain them. Gay, str8, bi, transgendered etc..should no longer be walls of sexuality seperating us for what and who we are, but great avenues of open-ness and opportunity for all of us to exist, and simply be ourselves, in a free and fair society.

Tiny pockets of repressed people, within varied areas of our society, will most likely always exist in our world. But those are the people which would still have blacks in slavery, women with no ability to vote or work in the marketplace and gays being arrested for engaging in consentual sex, in private, and behind closed doors.

If women reviewing men scare people here, perhaps it has everything to do with YOU and NOT the review.......

Thanks and peace.

[Guest ScottAdler]

WOW. The unthinkable has happened:

I'm speechless :-X

That was so un-be-fucking-believably on point I can't even begin to say ... RIGHT ON!

[KYTOP]

>First time poster here. Thought I'd register and chime into

>this very interesting controversy.

Let me be the first to welcome you here.

>I basically have two

>thoughts on the topic of this site accepting reviews from from

>female clients highlighting their experience with registered

>male escorts at this site.

Note that the escort is NOT "registered" here, he merely has a review posted from a female. You will find no profile link for the escort from the review, therefore not "registered".

>1- There are over (from what the total members count on the

>homepage reflects) ten thousand members here. My observation

>over the past few months is that there are less than twenty

>active posters in this forum, which seems to be where all the

>discontent is coming from. I don't know if the forums drive

>the business, but unless there is a considerable drop off of

>membership, I'd listen but not overact to the minority.

But many lurkers and I find it cool that this thread has brought some out to make a comment. Hope many like you continue to comment.

>2- If this site chooses to accept reviews from females,

>reviewing registered male escorts here, then it seems to me to

>be a double standard to make such comments as, "if they

>get to be too many, then we will stop them" or something

>to that sentiment. That speaks to a lack of vision and control

>as to what this site wants to be or become.

Again, the guy ain't registered!

>Personally, if people cannot seperate gay and straight reviews

>when doing their search, then they perhaps shouldn't be

>relying on an open ended data base which is simply in place to

>provide information.

How would one seperate them without reading each review narrative since there is not a gay and str8 section?

>I remember the days when I was excluded from most things

>simply because I was openly gay. Those days, espicially with

>the internet, whether you're gay or unfortunately str8, (hehe)

>should be so far behind us that our furture vision(s) should

>not even entertain them. Gay, str8, bi, transgendered

>etc..should no longer be walls of sexuality seperating us for

>what and who we are, but great avenues of open-ness and

>opportunity for all of us to exist, and simply be ourselves,

>in a free and fair society.

So you think everyone should be bi-sexual?

>Tiny pockets of repressed people, within varied areas of our

>society, will most likely always exist in our world. But those

>are the people which would still have blacks in slavery, women

>with no ability to vote or work in the marketplace and gays

>being arrested for engaging in consentual sex, in private, and

>behind closed doors.

We are not talking about who was made to sit in the back of the bus. We are talking about SEX, plain and simple. You make it sound like since a gay guy doesn't like to have sex with a female or read about it on a supposed gay website then he must be a bigot. Give me a break. So all us guys that don't have sex with women discriminate I guess.

Oppression and discrimination are terrible things. I remember the deaths of the freedom marchers and not just from documentaries. I still live in an area were being gay can cause you serious problems.

But wakeup and smell the coffee, We are talking about a description of str8 SEX on a supposed gay SEX site. It is nothing more than SEX, not a civil rights issue...geesh. No oppression, no descrimination. I just don't like sex with women...sorry.

>If women reviewing men scare people here, perhaps it has

>everything to do with YOU and NOT the review.......

Who said they were scared, I just think they don't like to read about someone eating (or not eating because it stinks in this case ) pussy. Nothing more, nothing less. Doesn't make them a bigot as you imply.

I really had to think twice about responding to this but since I've made several comments here I figured your comments were sent in my direction as much as anyone. I am NOT a bigot because I don't like to have sex with women nor do I wish to read about sex with women nor do I wish to watch str8 porn.

>Thanks and peace.

Same to you.

[KYTOP]

>WOW. The unthinkable has happened:

>

>I'm speechless :-X

>

>That was so un-be-fucking-believably on point I can't even

>begin to say ... RIGHT ON!

So you think we should all be bi-sexual and that we discriminate and are bigots if we don't like to read about str8 sex?

[Lucky]

I also do not want to read reviews from women. This is a gay male site. I remember the women coming into the Gaiety and trying to make the show all about them. They should find their own playground.

They could call it Hoogirls!

[Guest deej]

> Pussy-phobia sounds like a discriminatory term. Does that

>mean I discriminate against women because I don't have sex

>with them?

Technically yes. If you refuse to have sex with a woman solely because she is a woman you are by dictionary definition discriminating against her.

Put emotions aside and look at reality. You ARE discriminating. If you won't hire a guy because he's too femme, you're discriminating there too. It's shades of gray after that.

If you would prefer NOT knowing that this escort has been seeing clients (to whatever end) why do you bother reading reviews at all? That IS what you're proposing. You're proposing that the manager of a review site should hide the fact that a guy has been working recently.

I find it fascinating that you're asking a review site to hide the icky bits from you. When that happens, what use are the reviews?

>The powers to be with this site need to decide if this a GAY

>site or not. If it is a GAY site then why does it have str8

>reviews on it? If it is to be a mixed site then so be it. Just

>advertise it as such and let us all know. I don't watch str8

>porn and I don't visit str8 sex websites, I visit GAY ones.

No bias there. :9

[Guest ScottAdler]

>So you think we should all be bi-sexual and that we discriminate and >are bigots if we don't like to read about str8 sex?

Of course not but you're getting your (excuse the pun) panties in a twist over something that is just a matter of opinion. If you don't like to read about straight sex, don't read about it -- it's pretty simple.

With this line of commenting you're being the epitome of everything wrong with the gay community engaging in the eating of our own. Not all gays are exclusive homosexuals and by admitting to that nobody is advocating people be anything besides themselves.

>Note that the escort is NOT "registered" here, he

>merely has a review posted from a female. You will find no

>profile link for the escort from the review, therefore not

>"registered".

Yet now anyone who has read the review can benefit from him being available to them if they so choose. He's all over rentboy so why can't he be available for men. It's obviously a relevant review.

>Again, the guy ain't registered!

If I say I'm registered does that mean that I'm registered at Tiffany's, Target, and Saks? No. It means that I am registered somewhere. As an escort, he deserves the same rights to the chance at business that anyone else does merely by the fact that he is advertising he’s available. MER, Rentboy, nor Daddy’s have exclusive rights to the escorting community.

A statement to the tune that “it’s not relevant because he’s not registered” is silly because it indicates one must have a profile to be reviewed. Nobody is paying for ad space here (yet) so what does it matter if he can get a “profile” created based on a review.

>How would one seperate them without reading each review

>narrative since there is not a gay and str8 section?

Perhaps the suggestion of separating the reviews that way would be more productive than a misogynistic attack on the value of a legitimate review of client/escort activity which is the basis of this site. Just a thought.

>So you think everyone should be bi-sexual?

Gee that’s not an obscene extreme response. Are you in the same camp that if gay marriage is passed then animals should be able to marry humans as well? They may not be sharing a tent but the fallacy of your comment shares the same camp.

>We are not talking about who was made to sit in the back of

>the bus. We are talking about SEX, plain and simple. You make

>it sound like since a gay guy doesn't like to have sex with a

>female or read about it on a supposed gay website then he must

>be a bigot. Give me a break. So all us guys that don't have

>sex with women discriminate I guess.

You don’t have to make a federal case out of it. Bigot might me a strong concept but the fact that you have a problem reading a potentially USEFUL review about an escort simply because it involves a woman shows some degree of discrimination. Don’t read it or let it matter to you if it’s that big a problem. But to say that all female reviews should be rejected sounds a bit like out of left field.

>But wakeup and smell the coffee, We are talking about a

>description of str8 SEX on a supposed gay SEX site. It is

>nothing more than SEX, not a civil rights issue...geesh. No

>oppression, no descrimination. I just don't like sex with

>women...sorry.

Supposed gay sex site is right. Oz and Ty obviously knew what they were doing when they posted the review. In responding to this section and thinking of others I did my research so as not to be proven wrong later and found this in the FAQ:

_________________________________________________

Q. Why are there no pictures of naked chicks?

This site is run by gay men for gay men. If you want pussy you have come to the wrong place. Of course, you are welcome to hang around. You might find something you like better. Our men are in a good mood all month long.

_________________________________________________

It is a site for gay men run by gay men but that does not exclude the inclusion of straight reviews. If gay men can benefit from these reviews (as some of us feel that we can) then why not include them?

I also wanted to add that at this time clients are not paying to use this site. It goes back to the age old argument back when it actually was male4maleescortreviews ... if you're not paying for it, suggestions are far better considered than outrage.

[KYTOP]

>Of course not but you're getting your (excuse the pun) panties

>in a twist over something that is just a matter of opinion.

>If you don't like to read about straight sex, don't read about

>it -- it's pretty simple.

But you don't know it is about STR* sex until you actually read the review. If I knew it was about str8 sex, I wouldn't have. And why is my expression of my opinion getting my panties in a twist. I have no right to an opinion. God knows you have plenty, should I say the same about you sweetheart.

>With this line of commenting you're being the epitome of

>everything wrong with the gay community engaging in the eating

>of our own. Not all gays are exclusive homosexuals and by

>admitting to that nobody is advocating people be anything

>besides themselves.

And you aren't, the way you always attack anything gay that doesn't agree with you. You are the one that lacks respect of other gay males just because their opinion is not yours.

>If I say I'm registered does that mean that I'm registered at

>Tiffany's, Target, and Saks? No. It means that I am

>registered somewhere.

Since we where talking about this site, I assume he meant registered here. Are you registered with Tiffany's...does it matter here?

>>So you think everyone should be bi-sexual?

>

>Gee that’s not an obscene extreme response. Are you in the

>same camp that if gay marriage is passed then animals should

>be able to marry humans as well? They may not be sharing a

>tent but the fallacy of your comment shares the same camp.

No but that is an extreme thought that has never entered my head.

>You don’t have to make a federal case out of it. Bigot might

>me a strong concept but the fact that you have a problem

>reading a potentially USEFUL review about an escort simply

>because it involves a woman shows some degree of

>discrimination. Don’t read it or let it matter to you if it’s

>that big a problem. But to say that all female reviews should

>be rejected sounds a bit like out of left field.

You still don't get it. It is about str8 sex on a gay website. And because I don't enjoy reading about it and express my opinion about my not liking it I am accused of discrimination, being a pussy-phobe and other comments that insinuate I have a hatred for women that write reviews. Give me a break. I respect and enjoy other opinions and debate but this first time its been insinuated that I'm a hate monger or bigot because I don't enjoy nor wish to read about sex between a man and a woman. Now that is extreme.

>Supposed gay sex site is right. Oz and Ty obviously knew what

>they were doing when they posted the review.

Maybe this is a good time to insert a paragraph from this site's Home page introduction:

No membership is required to browse this new site. That includes access to all escort reviews and to all escort profiles including contact access. Free & easy anonymous membership is required to post reviews and is a prerequisite for access to the message center. Be a part of the up & coming premiere MALE 4 MALE review site on the net. The next wave in M4M escort review is here.

>I also wanted to add that at this time clients are not paying

>to use this site. It goes back to the age old argument back

>when it actually was male4maleescortreviews ... if you're not

>paying for it, suggestions are far better considered than

>outrage.

I don't consider my opinion to be outrage at all. You have an opinion, I have an opinion. I respect yours, you obviously don't respect my opinion that str8 reviews belong elsewhere. I am here because I am Gay. You make it sound like gay men should be ashamed to be gay and frequent gay sites because they are gay sites.

But it comes down to: Why is a review about str8 sex, whether it be by a man or a woman on a Gay site?

The owners asked for opinions. I gave mine and after that have only responded to those that think because I don't agree with them I am over the top. Guess I know why they compare opinions to assholes... everyone has one.

Here in Kentucky, horse capital of the world, we know about beating dead horses. So putting my whip back in the saddle, my whipping is done. It was my intention to express my opinion, not change yours or attack you. I've expressed mine and respect yours even though they are not the same. Though I am still straching my head that according to you and others because I have an opinion that is different than yours I am... What is wrong with the gay community, over the top, outraged with twisted panties, pussy-phobing bigot that discrimaintes against women ALL because I don't want to read str8 sex reviews written by them on the one gaysite I support and frequent the most...WOW

My horse is dead.

[TampaYankee]

Time to emphasize a few points, some tangential to the discussion...

We are a gay site for gay men and will remain one. We have no other agenda.

We offer FREE male4male escort profile listings and have no desire to change.

We offer FREE access to the reviews to everyone age 18+, nonmembers included, and have no desire to change.

We offer a FREE membership to anyone 18+ that registers and we have no desire to change. Membership is required to submit reviews and is a prerequesite for active participation in the forums.

TY

[Guest Riptide]

Hi KYTOP. First off, allow me to clarify one thing from my initial post. I was not pointing my finger at you with my remarks in any sense of it at all. I was simply attempting to convey the “flava” of the subject matter as I perceived it as a whole. I respect the fact that you have different viewpoints from me.

But since you brought it up, allow me to share with you where our thinking differs even more so. But first this…..

>Note that the escort is NOT "registered" here, he

>merely has a review posted from a female. You will find no

>profile link for the escort from the review, therefore not

>"registered".

I stand corrected, you are correct.

>But many lurkers and I find it cool that this thread has brought some out to make a comment. Hope many like you continue to comment.

Thanks, KY, I will.

>How would one seperate them without reading each review

>narrative since there is not a gay and str8 section?

I suspect that there is no need to worry about an onslaught of reviews from females coming here in the near future or even beyond. Although I have no knowledge of this, I’ll bet that this sites ownership is not marketing this destination in “Pussy Galore” magazine, or similar periodicals where you might find a lot of str8 escort advertising for both genders. Even if that were to happen, I’m sure the tech savvy TY could write code for a disclaimer at the top of the review.

Let me ask you this question: How many times have you read completely through a review here and remarked to yourself…. “Well that was a complete waste of time?” And you were reading about a gay sex encounter? By the looks of some of the numbers at the bottom of the review pages, where the reader is asked to comment on it’s usefulness to them, there are quite a few who apparently have gotten nothing from another’s review of their encounter. That’s the way it goes in my opinion. Some are useful, others are not. It doesn’t really matter what the sexual orientation of the review really is. But I wonder about this scenario, KY: Let’s say a female posts a review of a male escort, with numerous pics to boot. You find this particular guy just damn fucking hot. Just the type of hot that gets your precum dripping like a broken faucet. Now let’s say that TY has posted a disclaimer atop of the review stating it is a review of str8 sex. Would you still not, out of curiosity or lust, just skim through it to see what this hot fucker did with his dick or ass? Some str8 guys do like the occasional finger or ass toy. I only ask this because I am weak like that and I sure would. Lol.

>So you think everyone should be bi-sexual?

I’m not quite sure where you got that impression KY. I think everyone should just be sexual and hopefully feel the acceptance, security and safety to do and to be so.

>>We are not talking about who was made to sit in the back of the bus. We are talking about SEX, plain and simple. You make it sound like since a gay guy doesn't like to have sex with a female or read about it on a supposed gay website then he must be a bigot. Give me a break. So all us guys that don't have sex with women discriminate I guess…. . I still live in an area were being gay can cause you serious problems.

But wakeup and smell the coffee, We are talking about a description of str8 SEX on a supposed gay SEX site. It is nothing more than SEX, not a civil rights issue...geesh. No oppression, no descrimination.

If a man thinks like a bigot, yet refrains from putting those bigoted thoughts into action against another man or woman, is he still a bigot? Let me offer this analogy. Imagine the whole of society as a great big fucking fruit salad and you are the banana within that salad. (No pun intended) Now let’s say that as a slice of banana you are mixed in next to a slice of pineapple. You don’t like pineapple, want nothing to do with pineapple because you are a banana. So you get up and move, probably next to the other slices of banana or other fruits you feel comfortable being with. Nothing wrong with that, dependant upon your demeanor, everybody wants to be around those that make them feel the most comfortable. But as the salad gets replenished, it has much fewer bananas and considerably more pineapple this time. Much more pineapple. So the banana stands up and demands that no more pineapple be allowed to become part of the fruit salad because pineapple makes him feel uncomfortable and intolerant. The pineapple is an important ingredient within the fruit salad, but because the banana doesn’t like pineapple, the banana wants it banned from the salad. The banana has now become a bigot through his actions of dislike and intolerance toward the pineapple.

KY you’ve stated that it’s nothing more than sex, not a civil rights issue. That in my opinion is very self serving and short sighted of you, with all due respect to you. Like the fruit salad, you are picking and choosing what you’re comfortable with and like being around at the expense of other’s rights and freedoms. Should an openly gay man be denied membership to a heterosexual country club simply because he is gay? After all, “it’s nothing more than golf.” Should an openly gay man be banned from or dishonorably discharged from serving his country because he talks about cock INSTEAD OF pussy? After all, “it’s just sex isn’t it?” Should an openly gay man be denied admittance to a number of southern, bible belt universities, simply for that fact that he is openly gay? Where do your rights begin and end, as apposed to the female’s rights to be treated equally and fairly within our society? Like it or not, we’re all in this salad together and the sooner we can appreciate each others values and contributions to it, the better off we will all be.

People with an understanding of this countries history, especially gay men and lesbian women, should, in my opinion, be the pioneers of a better tomorrow for ALL people, as apposed to being the oppressors we all to well remember from our past, and still today, struggle with in our present lives.

I fully understand your feelings KY, it ain’t easy sometimes. You are, and have been, one of the most credible posters on this board, and yes, over there too. Your stories told, whether sexual or horrific (NOLA) have enlightened both memberships with your uncanny sexual potency (lol) and your AC like reporting capabilities of disasters present or ever about, wherever you are. I am a gay man too and appreciate everything what being gay is all about and everything of which it has to offer. But, to be an emotionally healthy gay man who has value to add to our current society as a whole, and beyond, I must also realize that first, I am a member of this society which sometimes requires me to think of the society as a whole, before of myself. Only then, will my time here be of value to myself and to those of which I love and CHOOSE to love because I AM gay.

Thanks for listening to a different point of view.

>>That was so un-be-fucking-believably on point I can't even begin to say ... RIGHT ON!

Thanks Pookie Face, that was probably..no, it was the nicest thing you have ever said about me online ever...Perhaps the New Year has many unexpected moments such as this to enjoy....

[KYTOP]

My horse is still dead on this subject but wanted to thank you for a detailed civil response. Don't quite get the fruit salad thing and will add that NOTHING will get me to enjoy reading about str8 sex, that does not make me a bigot.

>KY you’ve stated that it’s nothing more than sex, not a civil

>rights issue. That in my opinion is very self serving and

>short sighted of you, with all due respect to you.

Forget the review and alittle change of the subject.

Because I have few stories about civil rights and lived thru those days with a bigoted father in the south, I am very sensitive to being compared to anyone that discriminates.

But here is story for you.

I remember the day the first black kid walked into my High School. Everyone stared and in the lunch room I found her sitting in a corner by herself. I was class President that year. I told a couple of people sitting at my table to come on and let's move. We moved to her table and asked to sit. She never sat alone at lunch again after that day and made a few friends that day. The stares stopped after a few days and she was gradually welcomed by most. Sadly not all but no one even dared to think about messing with her after that day.

Comparing that to ones likes or dislikes in reading str8 sex reveiws cannot even be compared to me.

[Guest ScottAdler]

>But you don't know it is about STR* sex until you actually

>read the review. If I knew it was about str8 sex, I wouldn't

>have. And why is my expression of my opinion getting my

>panties in a twist. I have no right to an opinion. God knows

>you have plenty, should I say the same about you sweetheart.

My apologies, my original comments were intended to be a lighthearted pun. That comment basically went hand in hand with the idea of making polite requests to just divide up the reviews instead of negating the value of the one that happened to be posted. If they were to be they had to start somewhere.

>And you aren't, the way you always attack anything gay that

>doesn't agree with you. You are the one that lacks respect of

>other gay males just because their opinion is not yours.

We may have had a miscommunication. It was my intent to debate your position, not to get into personal attacks. My position was that declaring bisexuality problematic is like "eating our own."

>Since we where talking about this site, I assume he meant

>registered here. Are you registered with Tiffany's...does it

>matter here?

OK...just many of the reviews that start on this site do so without the escort being registered here. It appears many of the escorts may learn about this site via the review process as their profiles show up right at or after their first review

>You still don't get it. It is about str8 sex on a gay website.

>And because I don't enjoy reading about it and express my

>opinion about my not liking it I am accused of discrimination,

>being a pussy-phobe and other comments that insinuate I have a

>hatred for women that write reviews. Give me a break. I

>respect and enjoy other opinions and debate but this first

>time its been insinuated that I'm a hate monger or bigot

>because I don't enjoy nor wish to read about sex between a man

>and a woman. Now that is extreme.

Then don’t read it for the straight sex. Does reading about it really upset you that much? I’m not trying to be offensive, just understand. It’s obviously not just me in this thread who isn’t understanding it. I’m just saying is that instead of coming out as a major advocate against having reviews by women, maybe you could explore being productive and allowing the site to grow? Perhaps there are gay men who occasionally feel bisexual tendencies and those reviews can help them. In general a review is a recounting and the purpose of a review is NOT to provide titillation but to be a consumer report on a particular escort. I don’t mean to quash your beliefs, just portray what I’ve understood the review process to be over the years.

If you need something hot to read that won’t disappoint you might I suggest www.nifty.org/nifty/gay/ …. But don’t get rid of that “/gay/” section or you’ll be hugely upset That site started out as a Gay Male Story Archive and now it provides something for everyone. It’s not a horrible thing.

>No membership is required to browse this new site. That

>includes access to all escort reviews and to all escort

>profiles including contact access. Free & easy anonymous

>membership is required to post reviews and is a prerequisite

>for access to the message center. Be a part of the up &

>coming premiere MALE 4 MALE review site on the net. The next

>wave in M4M escort review is here.

Very true and I wasn’t disagreeing with that if I hadn’t brought up the FAQ section. While she is not a male, she reviewed a male escort that provides escort service for other males. As someone who hires escorts myself and likes to know what I’m getting myself into, I think that her review helps me as a male find who I’d want as a male escort. I like to know if someone promises they’ll do something but then reneges. I hired a gogo boy who said he’d do something but wouldn’t perform in the long run, it was a hustle. Stuff like that is important to me.

>I don't consider my opinion to be outrage at all. You have an

>opinion, I have an opinion. I respect yours, you obviously

>don't respect my opinion that str8 reviews belong elsewhere. I

>am here because I am Gay. You make it sound like gay men

>should be ashamed to be gay and frequent gay sites because

>they are gay sites.

I try to respect all opinions, I just think it could be made better without disregarding other’s opinion of value in the review. I agree that in the spirit of compromise the reviews should be separated as applicable.

>But it comes down to: Why is a review about str8 sex, whether

>it be by a man or a woman on a Gay site?

I'm not sure, maybe because it’s a review of a male escort that other males that patronize this site might find useful in their future hiring. Going to Vegas next week I have a couple three-ways planned/in the planning process and now am less likely to use Alex unless absolutely necessary. Based on the review, I’d have to be sure he’ll deliver as promised before I put one of my experiences in jeopardy.

>My horse is dead.

Speaking of dead horses … NYC rates and specific escorts whose rates you don’t like … looks like you love saddling that one up and riding it for all you can get out of it whenever possible

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>I agree that in the spirit of compromise the reviews

>should be separated as applicable.

I'm curious: For those who don't want to read reviews by women, would such segregation address your objections?

Or would the very presence of such reviews here, even if clearly warning-labeled, devalue the whole site for you?