Tipping escorts

[Guest StuCotts]

I'm not sure whether this is more appropriate a topic for the Pub or the Buffet. Be that as it may...

It appears that some clients tip routinely; others for encounters they consider uncommonly good; yet others not at all. Maybe there is a regional component to the custom. I am in NYC. Is there a"right" thing to do here, or anyplace else?

[marcanthony]

I almost always tip agency boys, because they typically have to give 1/3 of the fee to the agency (unless it's not a good time).

I tip indenpendents when they provide a great time or better and their fees are "standard" to the norm.

It's kind of a "gut" thing for me. If it feels like I want to give them more, then I do.

[TotallyOz]

I always tip for good service. In many places, I tip a higher percentage than in the USA. For example, if a guy in NYC charges 300, I may tip 20-40 depending on the quality of the experience.

In Brazil, I often tip double what the actual rate is in the sauna.

In Thailand, I tip about 400 bath more than most.

In Canada, I have a regular guy I have seen for years, he charges 100 CND. I have always given him 200 as he is amazing and always makes me happy.

If someone works for an agency, I do tip a bit more.

If I meet a boy in a sauna, I do tip a bit more.

If they spend time with me longer than they expcected, I tip a bit more.

There are many variables to tipping. These guys work hard for the money and if they are top notch, they should be treated accordingly.

IMHO

[AdamSmith]

First, marc has everything right. Second, I am with Oz on overtipping whenever something especially good happens, or just when it feels right. What goes around usually comes around, in my experience.

I dislike hearing the word karma but I suppose I believe in it anyway.

[KYTOP]

I use to tip a minimum of $50 for a 2 hour session. But since prices have climbed into the $250-$300 range I have slowed my past practice of tipping. I haven't used an Agency for awhile but I always tip them when I do, because I know the Agency is getting a cut.

In Thailand I pay my own set rate, that is more than the usual rates, and the boys always seem happy to see me.:+

In the Brazil sauna's I have a rate I pay if they bottom. Then if they wow me, I give them about 1/3 more and they usually have a chance to see me several more times before I leave.

[Guest chuck50]

I really thought that is what was said with my GOOD BUDDY KYTOP HUgs Chuck50

[TotallyOz]

> What goes around usually comes

>around, in my experience.

>

>I dislike hearing the word karma but I suppose I believe in it

>anyway.

I believe in that totally. I have been in Thailand in high season when all the farangs that live here get pissed that all the boys are not giving them attention but giving it to the short time visitors. Why? The rest of the year, they don't pay as well. And, look, it is business. One can't be offended when someone is in business trying to make the money they need. I have never had that problem with boys anywhere as I normally tip over what most do anyway so I always have an abundance of friendlieness.

I believe in the old saying from Chicago, "if you do something for mama, mama do something for you." It does come back 10 fold. IMHO

[AdamSmith]

>I believe in the old saying from Chicago, "if you do

>something for mama, mama do something for you." It does

>come back 10 fold. IMHO

Heartening to hear that and agree.

For the same reason, I pay first-time engagements up front rather than at the end. I like to show goodwill and shift the risk from their side of the transaction to mine. After all, I often know more about them than they know about me, going into it. (Some decline it until afterward -- self-protection against a sting? -- but at least they know it's there.)

My naivete and faith have not brought me to grief thus far. Even if they did, I suspect it would not change my habits, beyond educating me about that particular person.

[BenjaminNicholas]

>I believe in the old saying from Chicago, "if you do

something for mama, mama do something for you.":)

[Guest RR]

I think all has been said by the pros. I will just chime in that I always tip for a good time. I mean if you get a good steak and good service don't you tip the waiter?

Russianrob

[Guest TNTTed]

Well, I guess I don't agree with the majority. Escorts always want to be treated as professionals when it comes to keeping appointments, treating them with respect, etc., etc. They often remind you that your doctor will charge even if you fail to keep an appointment. Yet, when it comes to tipping they want to be treated like waiters and other minimum wage service people, that is, good service should warrant a good tip.

Worse yet is the guy that practices a sly extortion: "I don't expect tips, but they're always appreciated and remembered" (intalics and underlining are mine) as I recall one guy arrogantly putting it.

So, which is it, guys? Professional or not? I don't tip my doctor or my lawyer, yet expect to get and keep on getting the very best service from them.

[Guest JockSniff]

Considering that in NYC $200 and more for an hour is a generous amount for anyone's time, a "tip" is not merited. The hair stylist who owns the salon generally does not receive a tip. Prostitution is a profession where the goods being sold are owned by the provider and can be sold over and over. I say no tipping but to each his own. As for agencies that provide the product, consider it a training ground for newcomers to the business. Learning the "tricks of the trade" while being paid isn't a bad deal. Sooner rather than later ambitious newcomers will branch out. I've noticed that many of the pros are listed with agencies and freelance as well on this and many other sights. :-) :-)

[marcanthony]

>Considering that in NYC $200 and more for an hour is a

>generous amount for anyone's time, a "tip" is not

>merited. The hair stylist who owns the salon generally does

>not receive a tip. Prostitution is a profession where the

>goods being sold are owned by the provider and can be sold

>over and over. I say no tipping but to each his own.

Jocksniff: I found your post very interesting... and let me preface by saying I agree that to each, his own.

But after reading your post, I am led to think that the issue of tipping escorts is more a philosophical one of tipping in general rather than a specific one to escorts in particular.

That's because I do tip the hair stylist who owns the salon if I am satisfied with the job that is done... just as I tip the kid who owns his own business and details my car, and the small restaurant owner who waits on my table when I eat at her restaurant.

My point is that I suspect we would differ a lot on who we tip... not just escorts. And again... it will come down to each, his own.

[Guest Anton]

Hi StuCotts,

I think the "right" thing to do is to follow your feeling.

Nevertheless, what I sometimes notice as an escort is that some have well-filled wallets, and they tip easily when they had a good time. (Nope, I don't nose into wallets, but the way someone pays and tips often gives a good impression)

There are others with a smaller budget for whom hiring an escort is an expense, and I don't mind if they don't tip. I understand where they come from, and the fact that someone doesn't tip doesn't mean he didn't have a good time.

That's what I find important about a session: that the client had a good time. There are three signals that clearly tell me that a client had a good time; when the client books me again, when the client tips, or when the client sends in a review.

From that perspective a tip is a clear signal that a client had a good time. If someone cannot be a big spender, then a good review feels like a tip to me just the same.

No matter what, I think the "right" thing to do is to follow your feeling.

I hope this answers your question.

Warmest, Anton/Amsterdam.

[Guest epigonos]

I have a question for you guys regarding this matter. As a rule I do not tip independent escorts. I have never used an agency thus far so that is not a concern here. When I do hire, which is with some frequency, I hire for a couple of hours and I take the guy out to lunch or dinner. Now is this meal, which I of course pay for, a tip or not?

[Guest RR]

I personally would not consider that a tip. I have asked the guy to accompany me and it was initiated by me as an invitation. Just liked if I were taken a dear friend to lunch and asked them to join me for the meal. Thus my opinion on the matter that it is not a tip.

[AdamSmith]

I respect Russianrob's view, but it may not always be so cut-and-dried. I have sent random gifts to an escort, say a case of wine costing a few hundred dollars. And likewise I have received random gifts from an escort, for example a nice watch that likewise cost a few hundred dollars. Was my gift a tip? Hard to say. And what were the things I got? (Watch preceded wine, in this particular case.)

[Guest Anton]

Hi Epigonos,

Interesting question, and I think my answer will be surprising to you.

I have this friend who likes to cook, while I really hate to cook. So we turned this into a win-win situation: he gets all the groceries, he cooks :9 , and I pay for it all.

His gain is that he doensn't have to pay for the ingredients, while I don't have to cook, and we're all very happy. As a matter of fact, I give him a standard amount of money every week, and it's up to him how to spend it.

And nope, he's not my boyfriend, don't have one, don't want one, and I'm happy the way I live.

If I have an appointment with a client, and the client also wants to go to dinner, then this friend doesn't have to buy groceries for that specific day, but I don't ask him my money back for that day either. In my life things can change every minute. It can happen that he already prepared everything when I have to say "sorry, I'm going for dinner with a client, you have to eat on your own".

So is the meal that the client buys me a tip in this situation?

As a matter of fact, my own dinner was already arranged, it was already paid, and the meal with the client requires a little extra planning. Don't get me wrong, I'm not complaining, I'm only answering the question. In addition, I hope that this doesn't sounds like blaming the client for "messing up my schedule", because I'm not blaming, and making changes at the latest moment is part of the service I offer, and I choose for that way of living.

Anyway, this is why I don't see the meal that I have with a client as a tip.

That doesn't mean I don't like the dinners. I do like the dinners with clients, and especially the conversations with them while having dinner. There are a lot of issues going on in the world, and it's very interesting to exchange different ideas and point of views. It makes us both understand this world better. I also find it fun to find new restaurants that are really different from what we most often see (just take a glance at http://www.belhamel.nl).

Surprising answer?

Warmest regards, Anton/Amsterdam.

ps: I sometimes talk to clients about this friend, and some of my clients even met him. They all think he's adorable.

[Guest epigonos]

Interesting point Anton but somehow I do feel your situation is somewhat unique. Before he retired I used to see, on a regular basis, an incredible escort here in L.A. by the name of Todd. Todd like you hated to cook and prefered to come to my place rather than have me go to his. I really enjoy cooking so I would always prepare a huge dinner making certain that there would be enough left over for him to take home for at least two or three additional meals. Of all the escorts I have known who have retired he is the ONLY one I sincerely miss - damn he was something special.

[Guest Anton]

Hi Epigonos,

LOL, let's hope that, besided hating to cook, Todd and me have the other things in common as well. :+

Warmest, Anton.

[flguy]

Anton, He is more than adorable and you are lucky he doesn't live closer to Florida or you would be cooking for yourself again. He is a great cook and a superb person.

[Guest epigonos]

Anton, I'm more than willing to bet that you and Todd definitely have more in common than a dislike of cooking. I'm still waiting for you to make your U. S. West Coast sojourn so I can find out up very close and very personal.

[Guest Oliver]

Epi -

Perhaps we can make that happen this winter (to get Anton out of the cold and into the "warm"!)