The "other site"'s big wonderful world of hookers

[TownsendPLocke]

I have noticed something strange over at the other place.All-or a very large percentage-of the review put up in the last 2 weeks are positive.

I searched and could not find a middling or negative review.

So either there is a new code of ethics by the working boys(HAH-Joe Buck has the ethics of a raccon in a dumpster)or the reviews being submitted are all by the happiest of campers,or the reviews are being culled by"someone".

[Guest Barry]

I have nothing to do with the reviews there but over the years there have been periods where most or all of the reviews were good and times when there was a sudden jump in the negative. Sadly most of the older reviews were not in database format so it would be hard to analyze it over time.

[marcanthony]

>I have noticed something strange over at the other

>place.All-or a very large percentage-of the review put up in

>the last 2 weeks are positive.

Actually... what has really been interesting to me has been the sudden jump in "first time reveiwer" reviews.

Now I know that everyone has to be a first time reviewer at some point in their life... and so everyone will have at least one first time review.

But there are some puzzling things about this trend.

First, as TBL notes above, almost all of these reviews are positive. So you would think after a positive experience, people would hire another escort. But honestly, maybe I am not looking hard enough, but I have tried to search for second reviews by all these recent first time reviewers, and I can't find any. Someone help me out. Are there any that have written a second review recently?

Second, there are a substantial number of first time reviewers who are writing the first review for an escort. That's odd, because the site is a review site. So there is a selection of people who go there who would pick an escort based on what a previous review has said. That just seems a bit odd that so many 1st escort reviews are by first time reviewers. That's not intuitive, as most newbie hirers who go to an escort review site would hire a reviewed escort.. or at least you would think that's why they chose to begin their hiring career by going to that site.

Anyway... interesting discussion. Food for thought. In all circumstances, people have to judge for themselves the credibility of a particular review. But I have said this over and over, and I really do mean it, I am thankful that TY and OZ help us along at this site with some careful screening action.

[Guest BewareofNick]

There's nothing so strange about that on the face of it. Things tend to happen in waves, there's an ebb and flow. I wonder if anyone has hired Anthony Holloway altely through Western Union...

[flguy]

Maybe it has something to do with some of the best reviewers that HooBoy had are now posting their reviews here. I'm not sure if any of them are still posting reviews to Daddy's site, I for one am not.

[BigK]

Excellent point flyguy

[Guest VoxPennae]

>Maybe it has something to do with some of the best reviewers

>that HooBoy had are now posting their reviews here. I'm not

>sure if any of them are still posting reviews to Daddy's site,

>I for one am not.

Well at the rate that KYTop hires it should be no time before the number of reviews catches up to "over there" as you say. :+

The best reviewers are on this site? I beg to differ and find the reviews here just about as mediocre as any on the new Daddy site. These are reviews about sex for money, not Shakespeare.

[Guest CheekChecker]

Positive Reviews..Probably just a coincidence. Why should there be Negative's? I guess every guy is doing his job well Lately that's all!

Beside's there's Positive and there's the Cole Ramsey TYPE of Positive Review!

Those are a Hoot! His last review he's in his 20's...Now that's thinking Positive..on his part at least! LOL :P

[Guest Johnnybrk25]

This has absolutely nothing to do with the topic but I love the title. It would make an awesome TV show. Like "Walt Disney Presents: The Big Wonderful World of Hookers" . That was actually the first thing I thought when seeing the title of the post.

[marcanthony]

Today a review went up of Harlow.

He has 12 reviews, 7 of which are still available, and 5 are archived.

Of the 7 that are available , 4 are from 1st time reviewers. The other three are from a person named "Lexusman" who reviewed Harlow as a 1st time reviewer in 1/06, then reviewed him as a second time reviewer in 2/06, and then again in 4/06. It's interesting they posted a reivew by the same reviewer in 3 of 4 consecutive months.

I guess one could argue that it's up to the reader to make his own judgements...

I just feel like for all the words that are printed on the page, the only thing I know about Harlow is that the pic he uses is cute. Really can't trust if he looks like the pic, does what he advertises, or if he exists.

After 12 reviews on a review site, that seems a bit odd.

[flguy]

well Deej, can you explain this?

[Buddy2]

I just wasted some time reading Harlow's "reviews." I share Marc's

concerns. In fact, it's not even a close call because some reviews actively promote the agency and other escorts who supposedly work at the agancy.

The reviews that are most helpful to me are the following:

1. A positive review that mentions how the escort could improve his services even more. Too often, a highly regarded escort will have 30-40 glowing reviews which end up not being all that helpful (example of what is helpful: review of Tristan Waters, a truly great escort, by a client who felt rushed).

2. First review of an escort whose picture has been all over the Internet,

but is new to escorting (example: good recent review of Matthew from Premier in Philadelphia -- Premier has been using Matthew as its coverboy on Rentboy; he is the face of Premier in Rentboy's current 'best of' voting in about 10 categories which includes best agency).

3. Benjamin Nicholas' reviews, none of which are negative, but do provide

a great deal of information about the escort. I am referring to how often BN

pays for meals and sometimes everything as well as some of the more 'unusual' reviews. I do not know if Benjamin holds a record for paying from his own pocket on 'dates,' but it's useful information.

Tristan's, Matthew's and Benjamin's reviews are on Daddy's site.

[Guest VoxPennae]

>well Deej, can you explain this?

Shouldn't you address this question directly to the administrators of Daddy's Review site on his site?

While Deej has answered such questions or commented here on this site about similar matters, IMHO it's rather inappropriate. What's even more inappropriate is the arrogance of such posters to address the questions here rather than "over there" in the first place.

This site is far from prefect. Not sure if users recall but in the early days of this site there were enormous technical issues. Logging in was a nightmare, reply posts were even more difficult than they are now and most egregiously was the fact that second reviews for escorts took two months to get posted.

Many of you guys who post here seem to maintain a superiority complex thinking that "over here" is much better than "over there" and it's really the most off-putting aspect of this site. Yes, there are issues some have with the management of the now defunct HooBoy site and the new Daddy's Review site but many of you refuse to admit, or take responsibility for, your own actions that led to issues "over there" in the first place.

In all honesty many of you come across as misfit malcontents unable to behave like rational adults. What were you expecting that there would be some mass migration from “over there" to "over here" when this site opened or after the HooBoy site finally died? Are you upset that even after a month of serious issues "over there" that it continues to have an audience of users? Many of whom don't post over here in case you have not pulled your heads out of your asses long enough to notice.

Why is that? Could it be that a number of the posters "over there" just don't like the atmosphere "over here"? Or could it be they are comfortable with the community that has developed "over there" after a group of misfit malcontents went their separate ways? Who knows and who cares? Last time I checked the internet was a big space.

These are two distinctly different sites catering to a specific market segment in the gay realm. Each of these sites has a distinct audience that is unique. There are exclusive posters to each site. There are even a few cross over posters for both sites. (The lurkers are even the same I am sure.) Why both sites even share a moderator. How about that for similarities? (Any one remembers Lucky's fit about that?)

Are the reviews better "over here" than they are "over there"? Well to me they are a whole heck of a lot similar. Mediocrity thrives when it comes to writing reviews. Hey, not all of us are a KY Top.

Reeko took the time to put down his cards long enough to count the number of clicks to access reviews on both the sites. I figure he must have had to fold his hand at the time and so needed to kill the rest of the round. Wow! Talk about an absurd waste of time but musing about such draw rubes into his tent. And yes, I will admit that I visit only because I am fascinated by freaks in general.

I have a challenge for every poster on this site. I challenge you, especially those who dislike "over there" the most, to go one month without making a single reference to any aspect of "over there" on this site. This site needs to move on into its own and the discussions of "over there" detract from it immensely.

Do any of you have the will power to not make mention of "over there" for a day, a week, a month? I doubt it. Anyone take notice of the fact that discussions about "over here" are very few and far between "over there"? Especially now that Lucky has joined this little community. Ok, Rockhard let lose with a massive missive but he's a pompous arrogant asshole who's in love with himself. Oh...that describes a few people over here too I guess....sorry.

The challenge goes into effect on Labor Day at midnight. The prize? There ain't one. Just the satisfaction of behaving like an adult and depriving me of the opportunity of saying "I knew you would not make it."

[marcanthony]

>I have a challenge for every poster on this site. I challenge

>you, especially those who dislike "over there" the

>most, to go one month without making a single reference to any

>aspect of "over there" on this site. This site

>needs to move on into its own and the discussions of

>"over there" detract from it immensely.

>

Everyone has a different opinion I guess as to what constitutes adult behavior. You maintain that discussions here about the other site don't fall in that realm. I disagree. My point was rationally stated. It was backed up with evidence. It focused on an issue and not on a personality. And then it made a value judgement. That's the premise of an "adult discussion" in my book.

I chose to post it here because this is the only site related to escort reviews that I post on. That's my choice, and people here choose or don't choose to get involved in the discussion if they find it intriguing or stimulating. I see nothing arrogant, childish, or inappropriate about that.

And in keeping with my attempt to keep discussions at a high level, I will not be paying any attention to anyone's challenge about whether or not I can keep my mouth shut, hold my breath, or stand on my head for any length of time. I enjoy coming to this site. I enjoy posting about matters that interest me and getting feedback from others who care about the topic. And so that's what I'll do. And I don't think that's arrogant at all. I think that's the point of a message board.

[Guest VoxPennae]

Note to management, my attempt to post this reply met with several errors indicating I was not a registered user. Have I been banned?

________________________

>Everyone has a different opinion I guess as to what

>constitutes adult behavior.

Yes, everyone has a different opinion of such matters based on their life experiences.

You maintain that discussions

>here about the other site don't fall in that realm.

In many respects I do because much of it resembles a middle school palyground fight. The rehashing of the same issues over and over again for well over a year now, you girls should have grown up by now. If I choose to find such to be childish and irrational that's my perogative.

I disagree. My point was rationally stated. It was backed up

>with evidence. It focused on an issue and not on a

>personality. And then it made a value judgement. That's the

>premise of an "adult discussion" in my book.

I don't disagree here but rational adults move on in their dicussion subjects after a while.

>

>I chose to post it here because this is the only site related

>to escort reviews that I post on. That's my choice, and

>people here choose or don't choose to get involved in the

>discussion if they find it intriguing or stimulating. I see

>nothing arrogant, childish, or inappropriate about that.

It is your choice and others can choose to participate or not. The fact that it contributes to an atmosphere that might be perceived by others as unwelcoming is their choice as well.

>And in keeping with my attempt to keep discussions at a high

>level, I will not be paying any attention to anyone's

>challenge about whether or not I can keep my mouth shut, hold

>my breath, or stand on my head for any length of time.

Much the same way you kept discussions to a high level on the "original other site" from time to time as well.

>I enjoy coming to this site. I enjoy posting about matters that

>interest me and getting feedback from others who care about

>the topic.

Ah...a point of agreement for us. :-)

>And so that's what I'll do. And I don't think

>that's arrogant at all. I think that's the point of a message

>board.

And here's another point of agreement for us. Wow. So if I choose to point out the silliness of many of the "over there" postings I will continue to do so whether anyone chooses to participate or not. :-)

Perhaps it will help move conversation on to other more well-rounded subjects after a while. Then again, donkeys may one day fly. :*

[Guest SouthernMan]

>>well Deej, can you explain this?

>

>Shouldn't you address this question directly to the

>administrators of Daddy's Review site on his site?

Well, maybe he can't because he can't get in anymore? Why, well wtf knows, as that site doesn't respond to emails anymore, for whatever reason. Wasn't that the whole point of posting the question on this site, since deej, as witness just today alone, often posts here?

>

>While Deej has answered such questions or commented here on

>this site about similar matters, IMHO it's rather

>inappropriate. What's even more inappropriate is the

>arrogance of such posters to address the questions here rather

>than "over there" in the first place.

So, longtime posters who can not post anymore, and who are not recognized via their longtime recorded user name and ip address, can not get in, and can't get a response to their email to daddy, are being inappropriate??? How are they being inappropriate and not the administrators/owners/moderators???

>

>This site is far from prefect. Not sure if users recall but

>in the early days of this site there were enormous technical

>issues. Logging in was a nightmare, reply posts were even

>more difficult than they are now and most egregiously was the

>fact that second reviews for escorts took two months to get

>posted.

This has nothing to do with the topic.

>

>Many of you guys who post here seem to maintain a superiority

>complex thinking that "over here" is much better

>than "over there" and it's really the most

>off-putting aspect of this site. Yes, there are issues some

>have with the management of the now defunct HooBoy site and

>the new Daddy's Review site but many of you refuse to admit,

>or take responsibility for, your own actions that led to

>issues "over there" in the first place.

More off putting than the indescriminate banning of posters, just because those with a self-inflated sense of importance, don't like them, and not because they are in violation of the tos of the site? More off putting than having a supposedly impartial moderator "jump down the throat" of newbie posters and also basically tell longtime posters/contributors ( both in terms of reviews and donations) to basically "fuck off"??

Perhaps you should look in the proverbial mirror if you're going to accuse others of failure to take responsibility for their actions. Why don't you take responsibility for yours ala admitting that your whole posting here was a failed attempt to pass the blame for the sorry condition of the former Hooboy site, to the posters here rather than placing it squarely where it belongs??

>In all honesty many of you come across as misfit malcontents

>unable to behave like rational adults.

Unlike you??

>What were you

>expecting that there would be some mass migration from “over

>there" to "over here" when this site opened or

>after the HooBoy site finally died? Are you upset that even

>after a month of serious issues "over there" that it

>continues to have an audience of users? Many of whom don't

>post over here in case you have not pulled your heads out of

>your asses long enough to notice.

Since the HB site "officially died", I'd wager that this site has been growing in the number of "hits" while the former HB site has been declining in the number of "hits". I'd also wager that many, many of the most prolific review contributors from the old HB site, will now be posting their reviews here and not over there, so the old HB site will now be limited to reviews by "first time reviewers" until it establishes a new database of respected reviewers, which is not really good, at least in the short run, and who knows it could be fatal in the long run.

>

>Why is that? Could it be that a number of the posters

>"over there" just don't like the atmosphere

>"over here"? Or could it be they are comfortable

>with the community that has developed "over there"

>after a group of misfit malcontents went their separate ways?

>Who knows and who cares? Last time I checked the internet was

>a big space.

Why can't both sites just be friendly competitors, and not engage in a "us vs them" confrontation? So far, I have only seen best wishes to daddy's new site from this site, and the only bad wishes have been from supporters of the new daddy's site towards this site, as witness this very posting of yours as just one example.

As to why this site is superior?? No need to look any further than your "misfit malcontents" statement. Over here, everyone fits in, as long as the discussions are civil, and everyone is treated the same and everyone has equal rights, unlike the other site where some people have more rights than others, just because, well you know all too well why!

>Are the reviews better "over here" than they are

>"over there"? Well to me they are a whole heck of a

>lot similar. Mediocrity thrives when it comes to writing

>reviews. Hey, not all of us are a KY Top.

Once again, many respected reviewers, with multiple reviews will most likely only be posting their reviews here in the future, so just what is your point? Seem like the muse aka Mediocrity also thrives in postings to message centers!

>

>Reeko took the time to put down his cards long enough to count

>the number of clicks to access reviews on both the sites. I

>figure he must have had to fold his hand at the time and so

>needed to kill the rest of the round. Wow! Talk about an

>absurd waste of time but musing about such draw rubes into his

>tent. And yes, I will admit that I visit only because I am

>fascinated by freaks in general.

You mean Rico?, as your clever play on words hit the ground with a resounding THUD! Rico is wasting his time, but you are employing yours wisely? How? You're the one religiously reading Rico's every word, and spending time to post a critique of his blog, right? Who is the rube again?? Please, don't try to justify your hypocrisy with some weak effeminate excuse that you're fascinated by freaks in general, as I'm supposing that if that were true, that you would pull the old Narcissus act and turn into a brand new type of flower.

>

>I have a challenge for every poster on this site. I challenge

>you, especially those who dislike "over there" the

>most, to go one month without making a single reference to any

>aspect of "over there" on this site. This site

>needs to move on into its own and the discussions of

>"over there" detract from it immensely.

Hey Don, what's the matter, all the windmills out of commission?? Talk about ego! That "site" is open to discussion here/there/anywhere, just like any other topic. Now, what are you going to do, if no one here plays your game? WTF, why not take your game playing over "there" as that is the type of thing they specialize in these days. Of course, you could also stomp your feet and throw a big old girly hissy fit!

:7

[Guest VoxPennae]

>

>Shouldn't you address this question directly to the

>administrators of Daddy's Review site on his site?

Well, maybe he can't because he can't get in anymore? Why, well wtf knows, as that site doesn't respond to emails anymore, for whatever reason. Wasn't that the whole point of posting the question on this site, since deej, as witness just today alone, often posts here?

>

And is it not the usual case that after a user name is dormant and not logged in on for a while they are deactivated? That’s a standard procedure on message boards for years and anyone with any familiarity with such sites would know that. In such cases why would one expect that their original name and passwords would still work or even be available? In a personal case on a site related to a business group I belong to, my username was deactivated after more than a year of non use. I was not surprised in the least and ultimately had to create a new login name.

>While Deej has answered such questions or commented here on

>this site about similar matters, IMHO it's rather

>inappropriate. What's even more inappropriate is the

>arrogance of such posters to address the questions here rather

>than "over there" in the first place.

>So, longtime posters who can not post anymore, and who are not recognized via their longtime recorded user name and ip address, can not get in, and can't get a response to their email to daddy, are being inappropriate??? How are they being inappropriate and not the administrators/owners/moderators???

I don’t’ care that Deej has logged in here and posted replies to issues related to the “other site” to me it will remain an inappropriate action. Administrative issues related to Daddy’s site should be addressed to that site and if there is no answer well tough. I am still waiting for a response from Ace at Muscleservice.com to an issue I posed three months ago. Should I post my issue here? Perhaps management here can create a new forum for this purpose and called “Unresolved Problems at Other Sites.”

>

>This site is far from prefect. Not sure if users recall but

>in the early days of this site there were enormous technical

>issues. Logging in was a nightmare, reply posts were even

>more difficult than they are now and most egregiously was the

>fact that second reviews for escorts took two months to get

>posted.

>This has nothing to do with the topic.

It does in the sense that it illustrates that sites such as these are not exactly perfect and should not throw stones. I am not referring to management here throwing stones, I mean users. Were any of these issues about this site addressed on the original HooBoy site when they arose? I don’t’ think so but I could be wrong. There now seems to be a practice on the internet of addressing administrative issues on various sites to totally unrelated sites that can’t resolve the problem.

>

>Many of you guys who post here seem to maintain a superiority

>complex thinking that "over here" is much better

>than "over there" and it's really the most

>off-putting aspect of this site. Yes, there are issues some

>have with the management of the now defunct HooBoy site and

>the new Daddy's Review site but many of you refuse to admit,

>or take responsibility for, your own actions that led to

>issues "over there" in the first place.

>More off putting than the indescriminate banning of posters, just because those with a self-inflated sense of importance, don't like them, and not because they are in violation of the tos of the site? More off putting than having a supposedly impartial moderator "jump down the throat" of newbie posters and also basically tell longtime posters/contributors ( both in terms of reviews and donations) to basically "fuck off"??

Indiscriminate banning you say? How many of said posters engaged in personal attacks and created havoc to further their own ends? A good number of them. And Deej is no more off-putting than a few of those indiscriminately banned posters (or those who left on their own) who have attacked newbie posters and called people out for positions they hold on various subjects that do not fit a “party line” point of view. Wow, sort of like what you are doing to me right now. Ok....fine. This is a discussion board after all and it serves that purpose for dialog.

>Perhaps you should look in the proverbial mirror if you're going to accuse others of failure to take responsibility for their actions. Why don't you take responsibility for yours ala admitting that your whole posting here was a failed attempt to pass the blame for the sorry condition of the former Hooboy site, to the posters here rather than placing it squarely where it belongs??

Let me buy you a mirror as well. Hopefully it won’t crack. I am in no way shape or form passing blame for the decline and demise of the original HooBoy site. That site was entering its decline a couple of years before HooBoy died as far as I am concerned. The tone changed to a much more negative one long before the new regime took over. Much of that tone was created by various posters who jumped down the throats of newbie posters and savagely attacked people in general. To insist otherwise is to refuse to review the history honestly.

>In all honesty many of you come across as misfit malcontents

>unable to behave like rational adults.

>Unlike you??

Or yourself for that matter.

>What were you

>expecting that there would be some mass migration from “over

>there" to "over here" when this site opened or

>after the HooBoy site finally died? Are you upset that even

>after a month of serious issues "over there" that it

>continues to have an audience of users? Many of whom don't

>post over here in case you have not pulled your heads out of

>your asses long enough to notice.

>Since the HB site "officially died", I'd wager that this site has been growing in the number of "hits" while the former HB site has been declining in the number of "hits". I'd also wager that many, many of the most prolific review contributors from the old HB site, will now be posting their reviews here and not over there, so the old HB site will now be limited to reviews by "first time reviewers" until it establishes a new database of respected reviewers, which is not really good, at least in the short run, and who knows it could be fatal in the long run.

I would certainly expect that such would be the case. The management of this site has been doing an excellent job of marketing and getting its name out there. Crossover is bound to happen. Of course prolific reviewers will move over here why wouldn’t they? And guess what, some of them may actually post on BOTH sites, wow. And just how extensive is the database of “first time reviewers” over here comparatively speaking?

>

>Why is that? Could it be that a number of the posters

>"over there" just don't like the atmosphere

>"over here"? Or could it be they are comfortable

>with the community that has developed "over there"

>after a group of misfit malcontents went their separate ways?

>Who knows and who cares? Last time I checked the internet was

>a big space.

>Why can't both sites just be friendly competitors, and not engage in a "us vs them" confrontation? So far, I have only seen best wishes to daddy's new site from this site, and the only bad wishes have been from supporters of the new daddy's site towards this site, as witness this very posting of yours as just one example.

I beg to differ. While management here and at the “other site” have whished each other well, there’s been many a poster who has certainly implied otherwise in their posts. I am not a supporter of Daddy’s site in the least nor am I an opponent of it. In reality, I use both sites to garner information about guys I plan to hire. Both offer interesting perspectives and differing points of view on the same subjects at times. However, I am quickly learning that to oppose a party line over here about Daddy’s site is not exactly well received. I mean by fellow posters not management.

>As to why this site is superior?? No need to look any further than your "misfit malcontents" statement. Over here, everyone fits in, as long as the discussions are civil, and everyone is treated the same and everyone has equal rights, unlike the other site where some people have more rights than others, just because, well you know all too well why!

Again, I must seriously beg to differ in this instance. My position on this subject has been seriously attacked and the discourse remains civil at this time but for how long I wonder. Perhaps I should adopt the party line and harp and complain about Daddy’s site to no end just to keep it boring around here. Let’s see where should I start? Oh, I don’t like the background color he’s chosen for the home page. And that cartoon character needs to go. Will this buy me some indulgences?

>Are the reviews better "over here" than they are

>"over there"? Well to me they are a whole heck of a

>lot similar. Mediocrity thrives when it comes to writing

>reviews. Hey, not all of us are a KY Top.

>Once again, many respected reviewers, with multiple reviews will most likely only be posting their reviews here in the future, so just what is your point? Seem like the muse aka Mediocrity also thrives in postings to message centers!

Oh yes, mediocrity does thrive in posting centers. No doubt about that. And I am sure that many a respected reviewer with multiple reviews will continue to post on the other site. Or will they no longer be respected reviewers because they continue such a practice? What will be the party line on this so I now how to address my future posts?

>

>Reeko took the time to put down his cards long enough to count

>the number of clicks to access reviews on both the sites. I

>figure he must have had to fold his hand at the time and so

>needed to kill the rest of the round. Wow! Talk about an

>absurd waste of time but musing about such draw rubes into his

>tent. And yes, I will admit that I visit only because I am

>fascinated by freaks in general.

>You mean Rico?, as your clever play on words hit the ground with a resounding THUD! Rico is wasting his time, but you are employing yours wisely? How? You're the one religiously reading Rico's every word, and spending time to post a critique of his blog, right? Who is the rube again?? Please, don't try to justify your hypocrisy with some weak effeminate excuse that you're fascinated by freaks in general, as I'm supposing that if that were true, that you would pull the old Narcissus act and turn into a brand new type of flower.

Ok you got me there. It was lame and I fully admit that, in reality it was a cheap shot to refer to Rico as “Reeko”. My apologies to Rico and I agree never to misspell his name again. Also, Rico I was not implying that you are someone else by using the card playing analogy. It just worked for my train of thought at the time. But one does wonder.

And yes, I visit his site. Love it actually and the freak show part of it is what I find entertaining. The carnival atmosphere of luring an audience with outrageous statements is a good one. Luring an audience (Rubes) and keeping them coming back takes talent. Few have it. And yes, I am fan of sideshows. Todd Browning was a genius. Can a full grown woman love a midget? See the movie and you will know what I mean.

Ooops, I digress. As for whether or not Rico publishes truth or fiction, again, sideshow barkers mix lies with truths to lure the audience. Once you buy your ticket and see the bearded lady it’s up to you do decide if she’s real. Same with what Rico publishes. Do not misconstrue my meaning here, making accusations about barebacking and drug use cross the line. But Rico is selling hits on his site so don’t be surprised that what he writes may not be true.

>I have a challenge for every poster on this site. I challenge

>you, especially those who dislike "over there" the

>most, to go one month without making a single reference to any

>aspect of "over there" on this site. This site

>needs to move on into its own and the discussions of

>"over there" detract from it immensely.

>Hey Don, what's the matter, all the windmills out of commission?? Talk about ego! That "site" is open to discussion here/there/anywhere, just like any other topic. Now, what are you going to do, if no one here plays your game? WTF, why not take your game playing over "there" as that is the type of thing they specialize in these days. Of course, you could also stomp your feet and throw a big old girly hissy fit!

Sancho, you prove my point. Some on this site have a twisted view of the “other site” and will carry their grudges and prejudices with them around the playground for a long, long time. As for making mention of “here” over “there” Rockhard was the only one in recent times to make such egregious statements and not many picked up on the thread as I recall. But I could be wrong.

I am very unlikely to stomp my feet and throw a hissy fit. That would mess up my Buster Browns. No, I may just have to decide if this playground has too many sandbox bullies and pick up my pail and go home. Expressing differing views about some subjects seem to be unwelcome by a large number of the posters here. Hmmm, reminds me of someplace else at one time in the past.

[Guest mbarz]

For someone so interested in not talking about "here" and there" you sure are doing a good job of fanning the flames between the two.

Why don't you take your own advice and STFU?

Or better yet, do what I did and decide between the two and stop reading the one you decide not to go with. It might make your life easier.

I quit reading the "other site" when they took it off line that one day. I know I'm a "misfit","malcontent" and was banned from" there", but I still read the site everyday.

Now, I don't and I don't come "here" and talk about it either. I don't care about it, but if I wanted to talk about it, I don't think I need your permission to do it.

[Guest VoxPennae]

>For someone so interested in not talking about

>"here" and there" you sure are doing a good job

>of fanning the flames between the two.

>

>Why don't you take your own advice and STFU?

>

>Or better yet, do what I did and decide between the two and

>stop reading the one you decide not to go with. It might make

>your life easier.

>

>I quit reading the "other site" when they took it

>off line that one day. I know I'm a

>"misfit","malcontent" and was banned

>from" there", but I still read the site everyday.

>

> Now, I don't and I don't come "here" and talk about

>it either. I don't care about it, but if I wanted to talk

>about it, I don't think I need your permission to do it.

Points all well taken. And if I choose to point out that some are unable to leave the past in the past I will continue to do so and don't need anyone's permission either. Perhaps that makes me a malcontent.

[Guest BewareofNick]

malcontent? Nah, it just makes you Ethan. er, Erik, um, no, TheReasonPeopleHateLawyers, no, Dotan10, no, a rose by any other name...

[Guest twinklover]

Blah, blah, blah. Tiresome, point-by-point, nonsense. These longwinded exchanges are reminiscent of my high school debate years. Do you enjoy gaggling like a silling goose?

Daddysreviews.com has been providing 5 or 6 reviews a day each weekday since beginning. A few of those reviews have been interesting to me but the vasy majority are disregarded.

This site has fewer reviews, an average of seven or so per week. Many of these reviews have been informative, however. The home page on this site is excellent by providing links to a changing selection of featured escorts, top ten profiles, and new photos. This allows the viewer to find some guys ("fresh meat") who have not been reviewed, or mentioned in the forums.

I have been hiring and otherwise involved with male models, escorts, porn stars, etc. for years. I have yet to discover any "big wonderful world of hookers." First of all, the beach of gay male escorts is relatively small, although full of a lot of sand. I'm very particular. The kind of sea shells I like on this beach are few and far between. Very rarely (once or twice a year) I land on a diamond or other gem in these rough sands. But when I do, all the trips to the beach have been worth it.

[Guest FourAces]

> First of all,

>the beach of gay male escorts is relatively small, although

>full of a lot of sand. I'm very particular. The kind of sea

>shells I like on this beach are few and far between.

Did you ever consider you're simply hanging out at the wrong beach? :7

[Guest twinklover]

A fair point, FA.

The one and only one beach that I know well is located in the US,consisting of all of the escorts sites, craigslist, porn star solicitations, hustler bars,chat rooms, etc. I am not disgruntled at all, as I do stumble upon diamonds and rubies from time to time. My prior post indicates how I feel about the overall quality of today's US escorts in general terms. I'd rather not say specifically what I think of this state of affairs and the prima donnas that make controversial headlines like BN and SA. It wouldn't be polite.

Today I looked at the rentboy list of nominated escorts

http://www.rentboy.com/awards/

How many of these guys would you hire? Perhaps 1 or 2 of the 5 for each nominated category? I don't think I could bring myself to hire any of the guys nominated for best overall escort, given all that I know. And this is the cream of the crop, according to rentboy! (P.S. This is not to say that all or most of these guys are chopped liver. Tommy Deluca, Ben Andrews and Aaron Mark are hot. Casper, Marcos and Alexei are also potential hires. Most of the other guys look decent. I just wouldn't hire them.)

Internationally, there are additional options. You're point about other beaches and me being at the "wrong" one has validity in this regard. I have had good experiences in Montreal and Sydney. Perhaps Brazil would be even more to my liking.

[Guest tweety]

I think this is a generic problem. Are there any negative reviews of any escorts on this site yet? I must say I am always struck by the gap between positive reviews and my own experience with a reviewed escort.

One well reviewed escort on M4M and here showed up at my place after a long bike ride and sweating like a pig. Could there have been no signs of that kind of behavior in all his prior reviewed encounters? I recently contacted another well reviewed escort here twice from diferent numbers. His hourly rate is listed on the revied as $250, but the first time he asked for $500 to bottom, and the second time he said that for $250 the most he would give is some body contact and jerk me off. There was no hint of any such "attitude" in his prior glowing reviews.

I think reviewers should be encouraged to focus on the sex and leave the restaurant reviews to other sites....

[TampaYankee]

> Are there any negative reviews of any escorts on this site yet?

Yes.

> I must say I am always struck by the gap between positive reviews

> and my own experience with a reviewed escort.

>

If you have negative experiences you should report them.