Guest SouthernMan Posted August 8, 2006 Posted August 8, 2006 Is there any reason to support the new daddy site? Really, is there??? IMO, absolutely not! Especially, when the major driving force of the site seems to be the message center. A venue in which so many voices have been silenced, mostly unfairly! I for one, will be posting any reviews of my escort encounters here, and I hope that those who used to do so, at m4m, will do likewise. From what I've heard from the escorts that I've hired, I'm sure that both they and the clients will have a more honest forum, by doing so. Thanks to the proprietors of this site, for their honesty, their fairness and their impartiality. With the demise of the HooBoy site, there is no doubt, imo, that this site will rise to the top to be the number one site that we all go to for information, advice and honest reviews!!! :7 Quote
Guest BewareofNick Posted August 8, 2006 Posted August 8, 2006 >Is there any reason to support the new daddy site? Really, >is there??? > >IMO, absolutely not! Especially, when the major driving force >of the site seems to be the message center. A venue in which >so many voices have been silenced, mostly unfairly! I suppose that really depends on you. I certainly have no reason to support it, especially after the way I was treated by deej. I did very much miss the community and many of the regular posters, particularly Doug69, Ethan/Erik/TheReasonPeopleHateLawyers, woodlawn, IMMoore, etc However, in the rough and tumble of the still existing Escortspeak, i found a new group to hang with and who supported me when deej was orchestrating The Great Meltdown. MER, I think, is closer in intent and spirit to what Hooboy envisioned a Message Center to be, and certainly Oz and TY have done more to honor Hooboy than Daddy or deej have ever attempted. So is there a reason to support daddy and deej's new venture? Quote
Guest SouthernMan Posted August 8, 2006 Posted August 8, 2006 One ONLY has to view the positngs by Deej in response to longtime, respected reviewers/mc contributors such as BG and Lucky, to FATHOM what daddy's new site will be like, with the deej in control!!! :-( :-( :-( :-( I guess that is what they THINK??? will draw in the crowds??? REALLY??, then how SAD!!!! :-( :-( :-( :-( Quote
Guest FourAces Posted August 8, 2006 Posted August 8, 2006 > >I guess that is what they THINK??? will draw in the crowds??? >REALLY??, then how SAD!!!! :-( :-( :-( :-( No crowds left to draw. With the estate parking the domain name and most not knowing how to get to the message center daddy and his pet deej lost. They no longer have the ability to redirect people from such a massively popular domain. Also people's Internet habits change quickly. So each day they visit the HB domain and get the parked page a greater percentage will not visit the next day. Therefore, the value of the domain is dropping faster than a Value Jet over the Florida everglades. I don't care what they post here but in reality TY and TO are laughing even harder now. I know I am. Quote
Members seaboy4hire Posted August 8, 2006 Members Posted August 8, 2006 Could it be that the people who were running m4m intentionaly devalued the site so in hopes later on down the line they or a "biz partner" purchase the site at Wal Mart prices or lower? Hugs, Greg Quote
Members flguy Posted August 8, 2006 Members Posted August 8, 2006 Geez Seaboy, I think that is exactly what I said well over a year ago as Daddy was trying to take over the site. About the only one who seemed to agree with me was Oz. I know for one, I will never post a review again on that site. Quote
Guest jessedane Posted August 9, 2006 Posted August 9, 2006 I have to say that since this site has launched I have found it both easier to use and much friendlier so when people ask me I have told them I favor reviews here over hooboy as well as sending people here when they ask to see reviews. I will continue to do so. Quote
Members TampaYankee Posted August 9, 2006 Members Posted August 9, 2006 >I have to say that since this site has launched I have found >it both easier to use and much friendlier so when people ask >me I have told them I favor reviews here over hooboy as well >as sending people here when they ask to see reviews. I will >continue to do so. Thanks for the very nice words Jesse. It means all the more coming from an escort in a public forum. We appreciate contributors be they: reviewers, escorts with profiles or posters of either stripe. Every review gets a response whether posted or not, with the exception of the rare oddball review by someone acting out. We try to provide good service for profiles although we have occasional software glitches behind the scenes, characteristic of a young growing site. We welcome all to the forum that come for reasonable discussion. We know there are other choices out there. People don't have to come here. We don't opearate under the assumption that we are the only game in town. However, we do not compromise our pricinples and integrity either. We don't accept every contribution that comes our way just to accumulate them. We are young but we are here for the long haul, for those that appreciate our goals and share our interests. Quote
Members KYTOP Posted August 9, 2006 Members Posted August 9, 2006 I am sure your comment is appreciated. Sadly, fellow escort Scott Adler refers to this site as "inferior" in the old message center that remains and other new site isn't even up and running yet. Maybe a few well remember that when SA pops in here with his words of wisdom. I personally don't know what the future holds but I truly mourn the death of what Hooboy created. I also very much appreciate that a few of Hooboy's friends had to foresight to see what might happen with Hooboy's vision and then create this site as a way to carry on the idea that Hooboy came up with. Quote
Guest CheekChecker Posted August 9, 2006 Posted August 9, 2006 I'm sure Most of the "Working Guy's" would like to see their list of M4M Review's Return once again, SOMEWHERE! It was at one time a nice source of Free Advertising with Reference's. Most would direct the Client to that Site for good PR! Especially after a Rentboy Contact. Now Building up Review's for the W/G's who have "No Regular's" will take quite awhile. Also for some Client's, being asked to write a Review is not liked, no matter what SITE it may appear on. Never mind the fact, to dissect, some guy's JOB Performance, might not be wanted by them! As far as Discussion's Diversity is still best! :P Quote
Guest ArVaGuy Posted August 9, 2006 Posted August 9, 2006 >I'm sure Most of the "Working Guy's" would like to >see their list of M4M Review's Return once again, SOMEWHERE! >It was at one time a nice source of Free Advertising with >Reference's. Most would direct the Client to that Site for >good PR! Especially after a Rentboy Contact. > The Working Guys earned those reviews the hard way. On their knees, their backs, and goodness knows how many other positions. }( Quote
TotallyOz Posted August 9, 2006 Posted August 9, 2006 >Scott Adler refers to this site as "inferior" in the >old message center that remains Virginia Woolf summed it up nicely: “Without self-confidence we are as babes in the cradles. And how can we generate this imponderable quality, which is yet so invaluable most quickly? By thinking that other people are inferior to oneself. “ I do not now, nor have I ever thought MER was inferior to M4M. In business, it is always good to have alternatives. If there is only one store to buy at, that does not benefit the consumers. Scott has a role to play at M4M. He said that the majority of his work came from there. His livelihood depends on it. I can’t fault him for trying to do everything in his power to get the source of cash flow back into his pockets. Gucci and Prada are expensive. And, lord only knows how much those hairdressers in WeHo are. There is plenty of room for 2 sites, or 3 sites or even 20 sites. Competition is good for all. It is good for the escorts, it is good for clients and it is good for the owners. TY and I are putting a great deal of time, effort and energy into this site. Since our ads have been running this week on Cruisingforsex.com and MenOnTheNet.com, our hits keep going up. The other site being closed made our numbers go up. When Daddy opens another site, our numbers will still go up. Why? Because the more that is out there the more interest there is in escorting. The more interest, the more hits. It really does benefit us all. Ty and I are dedicated to staying in here for the long haul. We will keep pouring money into advertising. We will put money into other things. We will keep busting our Asses everyday to make sure things get done fast and responses to e-mails and posts are expedient. We do this because we are committed to the project and we want it to succeed. Hoo made tons of money off the site but that is NOT why he started it. He started it to build a community of like minded individuals who wanted to communicated about one of his favorite subjects; escorts. We became friends, as that is also one of my favorite subjects. We stayed friends because we had other things in common. I hope this site gets business for some escorts and I hope that clients get the information that is needed. We will keep trying to be the best we can be and make the site even better! And to Scott, I assure you that we will one day have more quality reviews than any other site. If you are a betting man, give me a shout and we can place a wager. Quote
Guest Jakobsen Posted August 9, 2006 Posted August 9, 2006 Though a regular lurker, I am nevertheless a supporter of this board. I don't have anything interesting to share but, when I do, I will post it here. Quote
TotallyOz Posted August 9, 2006 Posted August 9, 2006 >Though a regular lurker Wonderful! Was that you perchance lurking inside my hotel room last week in Montreal. I tried to motion you to come in. There is never any need to stay outside in the rain. Especially when it was 25 stories up. jk Welcome and please feel free to lurk, post, laugh and learn. Oz Quote
Members Lucky Posted August 9, 2006 Members Posted August 9, 2006 It's an interesting contrast when one site is welcoming and the other is driven by disdain for its customers. Maybe both will succeed as Oz suggests, maybe not. Ultimately we are all interested in the escorts and their reviews and not pissing contests with other old men! Quote
TotallyOz Posted August 9, 2006 Posted August 9, 2006 >Ultimately we are all >interested in the escorts and their reviews and not pissing >contests with other old men! Yes, I totally agree. Also, my mother always told me, "never get into a pissing contest with a skunk." Rarely do I loose my temper online or in person. It happens. But, not too often. When it does, you bet your bottom dollar that I was fed up with something. You are right Lucky. We are all interested in the escorts and the reviews. That is why I was always loyal to Hooboy and his site. That is why I travel as much as I do. That is why I post new people when I find them. That is why the site was started. Marc Anthony taught me a long time ago, when you meet a nice guy just starting out, you review him to let him make more money and to let other people meet him as well. Many people find a new guy and want to keep silent to keep the boy to themselves. Without people like Marc, TY, KYTop, SilverDollar and many others, I would not have met some wonderful people I have met. When NYObserver was doing his posts on M4M, I was always in attendance to try to find out if there was a new guy dancing at the Gaity. When some of the guys from the South of the Border forum posted about some new guy that was hot, I was always standing in attention ready to listen. Many people contributed to a community. You are one of them Lucky. We have not always seen eye to eye and we will not always see things the same way. That is what is so great about a message board. It lets you hear others peoples thoughts and reactions to things. It is a buffer before a new experience. It is sound bit for a new adventure. Thanks to M4M I was able to get information on my first trip to Brazil and my first to Thailand. Firecat introduced me to the only guy I see everyday when I am in Montreal. Marc introduced me to a boy that practically lived with me in NYC for 2 years. Tri was able to share with me about Brazil and argue with me about what a sauna boy should be paid. Not all experiences were great but all were a learned adventure. When all of the above is accomplished through one site, you have to give credit where it is due. Hooboy's site helped me to live some of my greatest adventures and meet some of my best friends. Hopefully, this site will allow me the opportunity to continue with that adventure. And, hopefully, it will be a site without all the men pissing at or on each other. (On the boards anyway, if that is your fetish, it is ok ) Asparagus! Oz Quote
Members Lucky Posted August 9, 2006 Members Posted August 9, 2006 Oz, i can name any number of positive events and wonderful people that came out of my association with Hooville. After my recent trip to Rio, I made a comment that the success was due to the contributions of many who went before me, trilingual in particular. Cooper has been a model for many to follow and I agree that NYO was a great contributor. It just seems a shame that the daddy/deej duo has chosen to take a less welcoming tact in their new venture. Hopefully you are right that this site will be the place that finally ends the bickering that develops when a wide variety of personalities come together. I plan to do my part. Quote
Guest FourAces Posted August 9, 2006 Posted August 9, 2006 >It's an interesting contrast when one site is welcoming and >the other is driven by disdain for its customers. An amazing concept, huh? You're one lucky guy to have fiured that out do you think your friends will too? I sure hope so. Quote
Guest FourAces Posted August 9, 2006 Posted August 9, 2006 >. I plan to do my part. I'm certain that you will. Quote
Guest jessedane Posted August 10, 2006 Posted August 10, 2006 >I am sure your comment is appreciated. Sadly, fellow escort >Scott Adler refers to this site as "inferior" in the >old message center that remains and other new site isn't even >up and running yet. Maybe a few well remember that when SA >pops in here with his words of wisdom. Maybe I'll talk to him about those feelings when I meet him this weekend. Quote
Members Lucky Posted August 10, 2006 Members Posted August 10, 2006 Assuming you can get a word in... Quote
Members KYTOP Posted August 11, 2006 Members Posted August 11, 2006 >Maybe I'll talk to him about those feelings when I meet him >this weekend. Find out if he Sucks as well as he Sucks up on the other site and let us know.;-) Quote
TotallyOz Posted August 11, 2006 Posted August 11, 2006 >Find out if he Sucks as well as he Sucks up on the other site >and let us know.;-) Jesse, are you up to the task? Quote
Members KYTOP Posted August 11, 2006 Members Posted August 11, 2006 >Scott has a role to play at M4M. He said that the majority of >his work came from there. His livelihood depends on it. I >can’t fault him for trying to do everything in his power to >get the source of cash flow back into his pockets. Gucci and >Prada are expensive. And, lord only knows how much those >hairdressers in WeHo are. But SA has constantly told us how he doesn't escort for the money, he doesn't need it. For him it is fun, something to do, a Hobby. Quote
TotallyOz Posted August 11, 2006 Posted August 11, 2006 >But SA has constantly told us how he doesn't escort for the >money, he doesn't need it. For him it is fun, something to do, >a Hobby. Really? My apologies to you and to Scott. I really did not mean to offend him. As for me, I'll stick to knitting. I made this great afgan last week. It is a beautiful rainbow of colors., Quote
