Corbin Fisher's Latest Surprise.

[Guest mbarz]

Scott, I have no idea what you mean, it was a joke, I wasn't trying to be malicious, but you seem to be. I like this board and have no intention of causing trouble, so quit trying to make something out of nothing.

[Guest BewareofNick]

>Wow ... must be time to hound you non stop until you admit YOU

>were wrong. Yeesh, can't take it when someone catches you

>saying the wrong thing ... admit you're wrong and this whole

>thing would be over. Sound familiar? LOL.

Had you started a new paragraph, or in some other way separated your two different topics, I would not have made any such assumption.

Scott, in every response I made, you will notice the presence of smileys. Those are used to indicate the presence of emotion, in this case wink and a nod indicating humor. I am sorry that you left yours at the door.

Woody, what would you say to two beers?

[Guest ScottAdler]

I'll respect Barry's request to leave the rest at the door.

The point is that an accusation with humor is still an accusation, for which you still have not admitted to or apologized for and THAT's the point.

My sense of humor has nothing to do with the fact that at all times I'm typically under attack by you two and thus responding as context would have expected.

Have a great day

[Guest BewareofNick]

>My sense of humor has nothing to do with the fact that at all

>times I'm typically under attack by you two and thus

>responding as context would have expected.

>

>Have a great day

Well of course you are, dear. And the insurgency in Iraqnam is in its last throes too.

[Guest mbarz]

I'm sorry Scott....seriously.}(

[Guest ScottAdler]

> }(

Interesting emoticon for that sentiment Thanks mbarz, appreciate it.

What I find funny now is that the silly little miscommunication was branded a catalyst for another "meltdown." LOL. Some drama queens need this stuff to feed off of ... it's sad.

Sorry Rico, false alarm ... better check the meltdown meters elsewhere

[TotallyOz]

>Sorry Rico, false alarm ... better check the meltdown meters

>elsewhere

Holy Shit. A Meltdown? OMG. Why didn't someone tell me?

Mistakes happen. I make them all the time. As they say shit happens. Yesterday, I was riding my motorcycle down a street that I knew was one way. However, I was only 20 feet from the other end where I parked. I thought it was no big deal. Well, needless to say, shit happens when you least expect it. All of the sudden I was pulled over by a policeman. I had to pay a fine. It took hours to sort out. In the heat of things I thought that was a meltdown. After I got back to my place, I had a glass of wine and knew that it was not even a heat stroke. Shit happens to the best of us.

[Guest FourAces]

This bareback scene has been discussed over at least three message centers and four blogs but not one person involved in the discussion was part of the scene or to the best of my knowledge any bareback porno.

I really would like to hear from the guys who are actually involved. I feel a lot of people are making assumptions and not one person (pro or con) has any hands on experience with the scene in question.

For example we don't know what if any precautions were taken before or during the taping. We don't know the status of either model. We don't even know the model's personal relationship with each other.

I recall a scene where twink-by-god model Brett Everett was involved in barebacking. Many people became freaked out till they learned it was with his longtime boyfriend. The two had been in a open but safe relationship. Therefore, the risk was very low.

http://www.gayporn.co.uk/tipo-sesso/bareba...samerica175.jpg

There is risk in every day life. Do I plan to walk in front of a speeding train of course not. However, I do feel that if two legal aged persons consent to a legal activity regardless of the reason that is their right. Many of us have fought hard to preserve specific rights; many of us have fought hard to protect our freedom from the mind set of the right.

I'm just suggesting we should not be so quick to judge.

RT

[Guest eastburbguy]

< For example we don't know what if any precautions were taken before or during the taping. We don't know the status of either model. We don't even know the model's personal relationship with each other.

The inability to take precautions for portraying barebacking on video which are equal to the level of safety that condoms provide has also been discussed ad nauseum, particularly with respect to Cobra Video.

Four Aces, I respect your right to your opinion, but I couldn't disagree more. The simple fact is that young impressionable guys see this shit and get the idea that barebacking is OK. That said, if the producers/webmasters said one word about any precautions taken, and/or if the models are b/f's, and added a "Caution: bareback sex is unsafe unless ...", that might make it slightly less undesirable. When's the last time you saw that level of responsibility exhibited by bareback video producers? If Corbin Fisher chose to disclose any precautions taken and/or any b/f status between the models, he could have. He did not.

Finally, for me this is NOT about rights between consenting adults. I'll fight for that all day, every day. Rather, it's about endangering another generation and the social costs associated with that. Find me one bareback video producer/webmaster who demonstrably gives a fuck about that instead of his bank account. Good luck. x(

[Guest FourAces]

>Four Aces, I respect your right to your opinion, but I

>couldn't disagree more. The simple fact is that young

>impressionable guys see this shit and get the idea that

>barebacking is OK.

You don't give the youth of today enough credit if this is how you feel. I'm not a member of Corin Fisher's site so please forgive me if my stats aren't specific.

It appears the site has on the high end of several hundred streaming videos of guys having sex. From the information provided to date only two videos contain barebacking. Of those two not a single person (except those invovled) knows the status, relationship and practices of the models. Therefore, your theory is that the two barebacking videos will have a greater impression on young people than the 250 non-barebacking videos ... I completely disagree. Again I suggest you give the youth of today more credit.

Porn models are not meant to be nor do they represent themselves as role models. Why anybody would place them in this esteem is beyond me.

I wonder how many people who have complained about the barebacking stream have actually watched it, maybe even more than once?

Lastly, if your feelings about barebacking are as strong as you state (and this is for the others as well who have like thoughts as you) then how can you actively support this site? How can you actively participate in this site? Oz the owner of this site's domain has gone on record supporting consenting adults right to bareback and he is one of the webmasters you feel doesn't care beyond his bank account (as you remarked). Where do you draw the line of your support? What is ok and what isn't?

.... it is about freedom of choice whether you want to acknowledge that freedom is a different issue.

My comments pretty much are well stated on the subject so I'll move on to another thread. I don't want to get involved in a he said she said debate over this topic.

[Guest eastburbguy]

< You don't give the youth of today enough credit if this is how you feel.

Likewise, not interested in an extended debate here, but consider this:

There is a HUGE body of medical/scientific evidence that "youths" from teens to perhaps as old as early 20's have brain development which prevents them from thinking/reasoning as we adults do. That accounts for their "exploring the limits", i.e., erratic/dangerous driving, sampling/over-dosing on illegal substances, and, YES, exploring unsafe sex, whether gay or str8, or male or female.

Those are the facts. So, yes, give an impressionable youth the notion, even with one video, that barebacking is okay, and there's the risk. Frankly, I cannot believe you can ignore the potential harm to one youth, let alone a whole generation. x(

Finally, once again for me this is not an issue of " freedom of choice." For your reference, in my post I said this:

< for me this is NOT about rights between consenting adults. I'll fight for that all day, every day.

It's about recognizing and minimizing the HUGE risks of unsafe sex. How anyone can ignore that is just fucking beyond me. x( x(

[Guest bigjoey]

away from the barebacking discussion, i have a question on the models. there are lots of beautiful men on corbin fisher, sean cody and freshman TV. these men do not seem to advertise as escorts. are they available? do they escort?

[Guest eastburbguy]

< are they available? do they escort?

I suspect that several are "available" but are very discreet about it. Others here might know more than I.

There's a post earlier in this thread here which mentions Damon (on CF) who is listed in LA on men4rentnow. Also, Chet (on SC) was listed in LA on rentboy a while back. Those are the only two I'm aware of who have been or are publicly available.

[Guest eastburbguy]

So who fucked who, or did you flip flop? }(

[Guest ScottAdler]

A gentleman never tells .... well now that that's been said there was a lot of flipping going on but his ass is just ... wow.

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