Guest chuck50 Posted February 9, 2006 Posted February 9, 2006 Please note that I am not complaining, but I am trying to help this great site get off it's feet. I have sent over 3-4 messages using contact for us over a period of 7-10 days and no answer. Iis it working? My first question an problem dealt with posting escort reviews wanting to know if it was working. I finally got it to workor so the site told me but still havent seen the review upwards of 4 days. The second was asking about the said review. Just trying to help get the bugs out. Love ya Guys HUGS Chuck. Can you let me know!!! :P Quote
TotallyOz Posted February 9, 2006 Posted February 9, 2006 Chuck, We did get the questions and we did respond. However, you have AOL and none of our e-mail makes it through to their accounts as they have said that the url is banned. We are working on getting that fixed but have put in no less than 40 calls to them with the response, "your url is not on the banned list." However, it is. To test, send an e-mail to yourself from AOL with the url www.maleescortreview.com in it. You will get a 554 error. This is a banned URL error. No one at AOL seems to know anything other than to create a new ticket and wait 48 hours. We have done this 20 times so far. We will keep trying. Quote
Guest straycat Posted February 9, 2006 Posted February 9, 2006 >you have AOL and none of our e-mail makes it through to their >accounts as they have said that the url is banned. Maybe if you offer to pay their new email ransom fee, I mean delivery fee you'll at least get their attention Quote
Members seaboy4hire Posted February 9, 2006 Members Posted February 9, 2006 It amazes me that people still use AOL. There are other isp's out there that are more user friendly and do not block block you from websites and blocking emails. The email issue is one reason why I do not reply back to users with AOL accounts. Hugs, Greg Quote
Members flguy Posted February 9, 2006 Members Posted February 9, 2006 Well Greg then I guess that would be a loss of buisness for you for not responding. I have had my AOL account for about 14 years and don't intend on changing my email address now that everyone has. I have very little problem with AOL and plan on staying. I don't seem to have any problems with escorts returning emails, why would you be different? Quote
Guest BostonGuy Posted February 9, 2006 Posted February 9, 2006 Exactly. I've used AOL since late 1991, with virtually no problems at all. I have used many other email services during this period, for work and for various personal pursuits, with varying degrees of success. But AOL just works and always works. I've had no problems at all with hiring lots of guys through AOL email addresses -- or with getting responses to my email. I think it's pretty damned arrogant for someone to decide that they won't respond to people who email them in good faith from AOL email addresses, just because the email originates at AOL. BG Quote
TotallyOz Posted February 9, 2006 Posted February 9, 2006 Well, I have also been an AOL member since the beginning and never any issue. However, what I found out was that they block urls. If an escort sends you an e-mail and it has one of their banned urls in it, you will NOT receive it. You will not know it was sent. You will not ever be aware that he tried to contact you. While I get stuff from my family just fine, that is not true when urls are inside the e-mail. The sad thing is that you will never know what you have missed. Quote
Guest FourAces Posted February 9, 2006 Posted February 9, 2006 > >I've had no problems at all with hiring lots of guys through >AOL email addresses -- or with getting responses to my email. >I think it's pretty damned arrogant for someone to decide that >they won't respond to people who email them in good faith from >AOL email addresses, just because the email originates at AOL. > I think calling Greg arrogant is a bit over the top. Maybe he isn't as Internet sophisticated as some but arrogant doesn't seem an apporpriate name. In fact, in sounds as if you're attacking him for a business decision he has made. Possibly his frustration with responding to AOL members (due to the AOL email filters) has been too much of an ordeal for him or maybe he simply needs to make an adjustment in his email address / or inserted url to avoid the AOL filters ... but fom my online interaction with Greg and reading his many posts on 3 message centers I've never found him to be arrogant. Quote
Members TampaYankee Posted February 9, 2006 Members Posted February 9, 2006 It is nothing short of the equivalent of the US Post Office opening your mail and deciding whether you should be allowed to receive it. Not only is it amazing to me what people will put up with but that they will actually pay to do it. SPAM filters are good. They capture a lot of junk email I am not interested in. But at least I get to see what they flag and decide for myself to read it or not. This is pure Corporate Big Brother and it is amazing how many not only acquiesce but embrace it. Go figure. Quote
Guest chuck50 Posted February 9, 2006 Posted February 9, 2006 BTW TY thanks for your quick response last night. HUGS Chuck Quote
Guest ChgoBoy Posted February 9, 2006 Posted February 9, 2006 BG writes: >I've had no problems at all with hiring lots of guys through >AOL email addresses -- or with getting responses to my email. >I think it's pretty damned arrogant for someone to decide that >they won't respond to people who email them in good faith from >AOL email addresses, just because the email originates at AOL. > > >BG What’s arrogant is; someone who assumes that just because “he” has had no problems with AOL, and, that “he” is happy with their service and TOS, everyone else should be as well. I think it’s pretty damned arrogant AND ignorant, for someone to call someone else arrogant for making a decision that best suits their own personal needs and lives. I think it also reflects a very shallow person’s character, to judge another, based simply on their own personal experiences in life; while ignoring those of others, whom they chose to criticize. Quote
Guest BostonGuy Posted February 9, 2006 Posted February 9, 2006 OZ: I understand the problem with URL's and that AOL does block some incoming mail from domains they deem obscene or whatever. I sympathize with your plight and wish you good luck solving it. AOL can sometimes be more bureaucratic than the US government. On the other hand, I do not sympathize with any individual service provider or other person who makes a choice not to respond to a good faith email just because it comes from an AOL email address. I believe that's arrogant. BG Quote
Guest BostonGuy Posted February 9, 2006 Posted February 9, 2006 >This is pure Corporate Big Brother and it is amazing how many >not only acquiesce but embrace it. Go figure. TY: It would be far more trouble to change my AOL email addresses than to put up with what are, in reality, very minor problems at AOL. Very, very little incoming AOL email is blocked. At least that's been my experience over 15 years and, yes, I'd know if I was missing email in any great amount: when people send you email and you don't get it, they end up contacting you in other ways. And my experience is that AOL email is at least as reliable, over time, as any other ISP I've ever worked with. Being in the IT business, I've worked with quite a few and they all have their own reliability issues. You just hear about AOL's a lot because they're big and people like to complain about them. But you don't hear anyone talking about the fact that tens of millions of people around the world are getting their email day in and day out, every day of the year, through AOL. We've gone over this before and agreed to disagree. I think it's great for people to have choices and be able to choose the ISP they want to work with. I happen to like AOL for a variety of reasons, of which high reliability is only one. It works for me but I don't care if others use other ISPs. Why should I? However, I also don't choose not to respond to people simply because I don't like the ISP that they happened to choose for their own service. Guess we'll just have to agree to disagree on this one, once again. :-) By the way, this board seems to be picking up. Nice job. Congrats to you and Oz. BG Quote
Members flguy Posted February 9, 2006 Members Posted February 9, 2006 Chicago Boy, I'm very tired of every single time there is some kind of computer, email or communication problem that it is ALWAYS AOL's fault, and the IT people feel no reason to even look any further. My latest was not getting company email that was forwarded to my AOL account. Not ALL, just some emails. Of course it was AOL's fault, end of story. I then asked IT why 3 other office members never received the email and all they have are company accounts. Gee, maybe there IS a problem. No one should jump to conclusions, however to say you won't even respond to an email that comes from AOL??? Maybe you should clean up your emails of URL's and send simple responses and see if it works. I respond to EVERY single email that I get in business and personal email accounts. And as a general rule in less than 2 hours most of the time. That is COURTESY, It takes about 15 seconds to say thanks, but no thanks if that is the only response you want to send. If you don't want to respond to emails, then don't include your email address in your advertising. Quote
Guest ChgoBoy Posted February 9, 2006 Posted February 9, 2006 Flguy, my post really had nothing at all to do with AOL. Perhaps a re-read might clarify things a bit. Wait. Stop. Now that you mention it; I’ll bet it’s those secretly encrypted messages that AOL places within your incoming emails, before you read them, which has caused you to defend them with such vigor. Is there no end to what AOL will do, to take over the minds of healthy thinking individuals? Attn all AOL users: Check under your beds tonight for large pod like objects. Do not go to sleep! I repeat, DO NOT GO TO SLEEP! :7 Quote
Members flguy Posted February 10, 2006 Members Posted February 10, 2006 ChoCho, Take your meds please. Quote
Guest eastburbguy Posted February 10, 2006 Posted February 10, 2006 Just my two cents worth here. I began my online experience 10 years ago by joining AOL and I retained my account until October, 2005. During those ten years, I found the service level continually got worse - the tech support which was initially awesome got outsourced to third world countries in which employees could barely speak "American English," (not that they're the only ones to do that, but it still was a slide downhill in service), and their spam controls got obnoxious. One day a friend introduced me to gmail, and I decided it was time to cut the cord. My move away from AOL email and into gmail was seamless - I simply used my AOL address book to broadcast an email about my new gmail addy. Then I notified AOL that they'd lost yet another member. I never looked back and I've had NO problems with gmail. Their tech support is great and they even have user groups to discuss issues. I'm a rapidly advancing middle-ager and I totally understand routines and being comfortable with a long-time "situatuation", i.e. an email provider. I'm also dreadfully NOT tech savvy. But cum on guys, playing in cyberspace requires adaption and updating! }( Quote
Members marcanthony Posted February 10, 2006 Members Posted February 10, 2006 I understand both perspectives to this discussion. I have both AOL and Yahoo email addresses. I actually like the AOL one better, because it allows my AIM screen name and my AOL address to be the same, so that people I chat with routinely have no problem remembering who I am (remember a lot of these guys are twinks, LOL). I have had these screen names for a LONG time, and keep in contact with many people this way. It would NOT be easy to change. On the other hand, I do find it aggravating in principle that AOL would censor my outgoing or incoming email based on a URL that is in there. And I know they do, because sometimes I cannot send OUT an email due to my putting a link in there that they don't like. Not sure when the one irritant will overome the convenience of status quo, but for me, it hasn't yet. Quote
Guest chuck50 Posted February 10, 2006 Posted February 10, 2006 WHo would have thought my question would have brought it to this. BUT I too like AOL and dont like it getting blammed all the time. Hooboy himself use to bad mouth AOL. I get and can send email to all most everyone. I have gotten them from Hooboys on a regular basis and all my favorite escorts and porn sites that I am sure AOL would thiink worse tha this. Maybe someone who works for AOL is trying to sabatoge this site. HUGS CHuck Quote
Guest straycat Posted February 10, 2006 Posted February 10, 2006 I decided to run my own test. I sent an email from my Yahoo account to my AOL account. The message included a link to this site. The email was returned. Below is the return message in part to protect my privacy. Hi. This is the qmail-send program at yahoo.com. I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following addresses. This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out. : 111.111.111. failed after I sent the message. Remote host said: 554-: (HVU:B1) http://postmaster.info.aol.com/errors/554hvub1.html 554 TRANSACTION FAILED --- Below this line is a copy of the message. Oz maybe you can supply an AOL email address for those of us to write to with our unhappiness; from our AOL account. If they receive enough complaints possibly they'll at least look at the situation. I believe that even those who enjoy AOL don't enjoy their email being censored and would also send a note expressing their displeasure with the blocking of this site. Quote
TotallyOz Posted February 10, 2006 Posted February 10, 2006 I just spent over 2 hours on the phone with supervisors. I was told repeatedly that there was no block. After much discussion and telling them to send an e-mail to me from their AOL account, they agreed that there was an issue. I have been told that they will get back to me in the next 48 hours. As soon as I hear from them, I will let you know. Thanks for the support! Oz Quote
Members TampaYankee Posted February 10, 2006 Members Posted February 10, 2006 >>This is pure Corporate Big Brother and it is amazing how >many >>not only acquiesce but embrace it. Go figure. > >It would be far more trouble to change my AOL email addresses >than to put up with what are, in reality, very minor problems >at AOL. I appreciate the investment legacy that a long time email service builds. It is not practical simply to walk away from it, even over the principle that your provider shouldn't be deciding what is fit for you to read. Very, very little incoming AOL email is blocked. At >least that's been my experience over 15 years ... I think the key qualifier there is 'that's been your experience'. No doubt that is true for many others too -- millions and millions even. However, some people like myself use an AOL account primarily for adult oriented contacts. Many escorts do. A great many clients real or potential too. This type of service prohibition is at the least a great inconvenience and at most a lot worse. I'd >know if I was missing email in any great amount: when people >send you email and you don't get it, they end up contacting >you in other ways. Only if they have other contact information for you. Without a name, address, phone number, or company affiliation, I daresay most people would be dead in the water when attempting to contact you. Exactly the situation we find ourselves in here. And my experience is that AOL email is at >least as reliable, over time, as any other ISP I've ever >worked with. Being in the IT business, I've worked with quite >a few and they all have their own reliability issues. I'm not doubting AOL's reliability. I take exception to their stance that they decide what is fit for me to read on their own initiative and, to rub salt in the wound, not even inform me in a clear easy to read statement that it is their policy. If they choose to impose this policy then they ought to inform the primary account holder at sign up in an easy to see and comprehend statement and give them the choice to opt out of their en loco parentis policy. I have no problem with informed users making their own decisions. For escorts and clients this kind of sub rosa policy is a clear detriment to their business interests or leisure time activities. If AOL wants to restrict its service for these activities that is fine too -- as long as it is known to those who pay for a service that they think they are getting but in actuallity they are not receiving. In addition it seems to me that two average run-of-the-mill adult users ought to be able to communicate with each other regarding any URL on the web. Again, if AOL wants to restrict them that is fine as long as the users know that. They are free to choose AOL service or not. And should they choose to accept, then they are on notice that certain types of emails will require an alternate service. > >We've gone over this before and agreed to disagree. We have gone over AOL's pros and cons before but I don't think this issue was salient in my mind at that time. We continue to agree to disagree. I think >it's great for people to have choices and be able to choose >the ISP they want to work with. I happen to like AOL for a >variety of reasons, of which high reliability is only one. >It works for me but I don't care if others use other ISPs. >Why should I? > I am in general agreement with your sentiments here. However, I think your song might change key if it was your business that was being black listed for denial of service. It often comes down to whose ox is being gored. >However, I also don't choose not to respond to people simply >because I don't like the ISP that they happened to choose for >their own service. > We can agree to agree on this one. My problem is just the opposite - trying my damnedest to respond to people with an ISP that won't tolerate me and my business. >Guess we'll just have to agree to disagree on this one, once >again. :-) > Well if we all agreed all the time there woudn't be much to discuss other than the weather. :7 >By the way, this board seems to be picking up. Nice job. >Congrats to you and Oz. Yes, we are really quite busy... you should see the activity in the private tech issues forum... lol :7 Quote
Members TampaYankee Posted February 10, 2006 Members Posted February 10, 2006 >WHo would have thought my question would have brought it to >this. Chuck, over the years some great threads were generated off of an initial simple post such as yours, IMO. Part of the glory of the past, as I see it, was just such circumstances where threads dynamically took off eliciting differing opinions about a subject without personal rancor and invective taking over the thread. Hopefully we will see more of it here. BUT I too like AOL and dont like it getting blammed all >the time. I'll go on record to say that AOL does many things right. By far their biggest screw up was merging with Time Warner but that is a subject for the Business Forum :7 Hooboy himself use to bad mouth AOL. I get and can >send email to all most everyone. I have gotten them from >Hooboys on a regular basis and all my favorite escorts and >porn sites that I am sure AOL would thiink worse tha this. Yes, HooBoy did and I don't doubt your experience either. But to put HooBoy's comments in perspective, as I understood them, he was counseling lots of escorts who would contact him complaining that their accounts were deleted by AOL and they were unable to respond to clients. AOL would delete escort profiles without comment and in many many instances cancel AOL accounts. He was making the point that it is illogical for escorts to rely on a hostile provider to supply the primary business contact for their customer base. The logic still applies today. Quote
Members seaboy4hire Posted February 11, 2006 Members Posted February 11, 2006 >Exactly. > >I've used AOL since late 1991, with virtually no problems at >all. I have used many other email services during this >period, for work and for various personal pursuits, with >varying degrees of success. But AOL just works and always >works. > >I've had no problems at all with hiring lots of guys through >AOL email addresses -- or with getting responses to my email. >I think it's pretty damned arrogant for someone to decide that >they won't respond to people who email them in good faith from >AOL email addresses, just because the email originates at AOL. > > >BG BG I am far from arrogant. Those who have met me or talked to me via the boards can vouche. I have had quite a few clients send me emails from AOL accounts and 9 times out of 10 my replies have bounced back. I am happy to get emails from everyone but when I take the time to reply often times answering multiple questions and the email gets bounced back it gets quite annoying. I didn't mean for my post to come across as mean but it is my choice not to waste time answering emails from AOL when the chances are high that the replies will bounce back. I think that you shouldn't really judge someone till you've met them. Hugs, Greg Quote
Members seaboy4hire Posted February 11, 2006 Members Posted February 11, 2006 >>This is pure Corporate Big Brother and it is amazing how >many >>not only acquiesce but embrace it. Go figure. > >TY: > >It would be far more trouble to change my AOL email addresses >than to put up with what are, in reality, very minor problems >at AOL. Very, very little incoming AOL email is blocked. At >least that's been my experience over 15 years and, yes, I'd >know if I was missing email in any great amount: when people >send you email and you don't get it, they end up contacting >you in other ways. And my experience is that AOL email is at >least as reliable, over time, as any other ISP I've ever >worked with. Being in the IT business, I've worked with quite >a few and they all have their own reliability issues. You >just hear about AOL's a lot because they're big and people >like to complain about them. But you don't hear anyone >talking about the fact that tens of millions of people around >the world are getting their email day in and day out, every >day of the year, through AOL. > >We've gone over this before and agreed to disagree. I think >it's great for people to have choices and be able to choose >the ISP they want to work with. I happen to like AOL for a >variety of reasons, of which high reliability is only one. >It works for me but I don't care if others use other ISPs. >Why should I? > >However, I also don't choose not to respond to people simply >because I don't like the ISP that they happened to choose for >their own service. > >Guess we'll just have to agree to disagree on this one, once >again. :-) > >By the way, this board seems to be picking up. Nice job. >Congrats to you and Oz. > >BG BG if an escort doesn't have any other contact info about you other then your email address how else are they going to contact you? It wouldn't be trouble to have a reliable email address for hirring. It takes maybe 5 minutes. Hugs, Greg Quote
