Trip Report Christmas and New Year 2.0 Rinse and Repeat

[spoon]

Its time for me to start writing my report again. Last year, I had told myself i would not prefer to go to LOS during this time. Crowds is crazier, hotels are more expensive, so is the flight, and of course, boys are also more demanding. But as the year goes, i havent taken enough annual leave and need to use them by year end, so if i needed to overspend for travelling anywhere, ill choose one place that im sure will get my money worth, and that is LOS. This time around, I have the luxury of knowing what to expect travelling to bangkok and pattaya during this time, so i am very well prepared. And instead of focusing on the cons, there are clear advantages of travelling during peak season, otherwise it will not be called peak season for no reason. Boys are abundant, shows are getting better with specials, even the customer crowds are much cuter and hotter too lol. I also decided to go for a longer trip, 14 nights to be exact, and added Laos (3 nights) in the mix, at the time where bangkok and pattaya is too crowded for me anyway so i can get away from the crowd and hopefully have a rest in between my bangkok and pattaya men hunting. Thus my trip (18th Dec- 1st of Jan) we broken up with first 3 nights in Bangkok, 5 nights in Pattaya, 3 nights in Laos, and last 3 nights in Bangkok again. I like this setup better than previous year (24 dec - 2nd Of Jan, 4 nights Bangkok, 5 Night in Pattaya) because i went slightly before the peak of peak season time (christmas eve to new year) and this time around, it is Christmas in Pattaya and New year in Bangkok instead. 

As i booked my flight rather late, a direct flight wouldve cost me close to a business class, so i got a little creative and got several bookings done separately to cut down the flight cost. It does save me some cost, but not major saving after all the booking is done, but id do it again as it does gives me lots of flexibility to try and make my itinerary above work. I was using Air Asia final call promotion and managed to book flight to bangkok (1 stop) and return flight to Vientiane, using minimum points, and only spend ~USD 50 for the whole trip. Unfortunately my direct flight from bangkok to KUL is not cheap, a bit more than USD100 but adding more day for cheaper flight ticket started to make no sense even if i only add hotel cost, so i booked that direct flight back anyway. All in all, I can consider my Bangkok to Vientiane flight is really cheap, and i paid the regular price for KL-Bangkok legs, so all is good. 

As for accommodation, since i booked rather late, most hotels have already jacked up their prices, especially during the new years. My favorite hotel, Raya, is fully booked, and the normal value hotels around silom had either sold out, or jacked up their prices making them no longer value for money hotel, so i settled with a slightly more expensive hotel of known quality. For my first bangkok leg, I stay at Pullman hotel G, then stayed 2night in zing, 2 night in ambiance and 1 night in zing again, staying in best western vientiane, and for the last leg in bangkok, i stayed in Furama Silom. Of course, Zing and ambiance are already forum's favorite stay in pattaya, with very reasonable price and location, but for Zing, it is worth to spend a bit extra for the second tier room as for very little difference, the upgrade is huge. Im totally happy with my cheapest room in ambiance, though the room i had didnt have elevator access all the way, only at level 2, and then needed to take 2 flight of stairs. Not an issue this time, but wouldve been a big issue if this happened during my previous aug/sep trip where i had sprained ankle. So as a caution, if this is an issue, try to get a room with access to elevator if u stay in ambiance. Between Furama and Pullman, Id choose furama in a heart beat. Room is much bigger, with bathtub and shower and of course, the glass walls is great fun to have when entertaining boys, which is what i love with Raya rooms too. Pullman Hotel G room is fine for the hotel, but their cheapest room cant beat furama offering. Best western vientiane is also a great hotel, very reasonably price, huge room, with balcony, and super close to the night market, as well as close enough to the airport bus stop. 

I have done well with my budget too this time, and realized even before travelling, itll cost me quite a lot if i were to take one boy each night for long time companion, but i guess we shall see what did happened as i write my report. I also contemplating with my report style as 14 nights of detailed reporting my get too long and boring, but then again, i might not remember much anymore as i was there for far too long compared to all my previous trip so ill just write what i remember first, and some of them ive written in various thread before, so it might be a repeat. This trip, ive met lots more forum members and as always its nice to finally meet few veterans as well as new members and exchanging notes of boys and world's issues alike. 

And of course, this is my prized possession from this trip lol

[vinapu]

great start,

waiting for more impatiently

[GWMinUS]

Hope the shorts fit you!! Or that you can find a Hard Slim Young Man to model them in your room...  

[jason1975]

@spoon I am so jealous of you for getting that Moonlight shorts!

i have been busy at work and lazy during the weekends to write about my trip in December during Christmas.

i shall try to write about it soon - and combine it with upcoming trip this weekend. It’s the Chinese New Year holidays and I shall be in bangkok for 3 nights!

 

[spoon]

8 hours ago, GWMinUS said:

Hope the shorts fit you!! Or that you can find a Hard Slim Young Man to model them in your room...  

Too bad i got it on my last night in bangkok and my boy of the night is too shy to wear it lol. Of course it is no secret the shorts will never fit me lol. 

 

1 hour ago, jason1975 said:

@spoon I am so jealous of you for getting that Moonlight shorts!

i have been busy at work and lazy during the weekends to write about my trip in December during Christmas.

i shall try to write about it soon - and combine it with upcoming trip this weekend. It’s the Chinese New Year holidays and I shall be in bangkok for 3 nights!

 

I am more jealous of you going to bangkok for the CNY! Its a 4 day weekend here but flight ticket is too high to justify the trip, and i havent even begin to see the hotel price. 

 

9 hours ago, vinapu said:

great start,

waiting for more impatiently

More will come in due time, worry not hehe.

[pong]

Selamat malam dari disini. Having arrived back here a few days ago I cannot confirm around 1/1 is busiest-at the mo its even more crazy and esp. with all types of Chinese, Taiwan/Honky, and esp. the mainlanders. And of course plenty from south of the border too, the faithful and always welcome malays. You must also suffer from the bad rate for the THB-I well remember it was always 10 baht for the ringgit, but its now under 8.

There are at least 2 new HTLs under construction in the Silom area, one will be an Ibis styles. So maybe next yr more chances.

How long will it take before those prized ML-shorties are starting to appear as copynearreal on the Silom stands..........

[spoon]

21 minutes ago, pong said:

Selamat malam dari disini. Having arrived back here a few days ago I cannot confirm around 1/1 is busiest-at the mo its even more crazy and esp. with all types of Chinese, Taiwan/Honky, and esp. the mainlanders. And of course plenty from south of the border too, the faithful and always welcome malays. You must also suffer from the bad rate for the THB-I well remember it was always 10 baht for the ringgit, but its now under 8.

There are at least 2 new HTLs under construction in the Silom area, one will be an Ibis styles. So maybe next yr more chances.

How long will it take before those prized ML-shorties are starting to appear as copynearreal on the Silom stands..........

I dont want to jump ahead of my reports but rather than saying it is more crowded during new year compared to chinese new year, id say there are much more gays around the new year, particularly from christmas to new year, and white party play a huge role in this respect. Im pretty sure CNY will be crowded too, and baht seems to drop quite a bit, but type of crowd might not matched the crowd ive seen during my new year visit. Hot young multiracial gays left and right lol If anything, im willing to bet songkran will see much similar crowd instead, albeit wetter lol

[ggobkk]

I spent a Chinese New Year break in Bangkok with a side trip to Pattaya - it's not as crowded as Christmas to Jan 1 peak but it's busy.  Many, many of the boys, though, chose to go home for this period, especially the Vietnamese.

Spoon - looking forward to your report - you bring a good time spirit with you and it rubs off on those around you.

 

[spoon]

Day of Arrival

My flight is on 18th, departing 12:30pm to Surat Thani and arriving at DMK at 17:25pm. It was a leisure itinerary with 3 hour layover in Surat Thani, and i am glad i didnt take the rush option with only 1 hour layover as it turns out we were delayed, and I had to actually went through immigration at Surat Thani as my next leg is a domestic flight. Though it was supposed to be leisure travelling, it started of really bad, and no, i fortunately didnt sprained my ankle this time. I woke up early this morning, finishing packing my bag and then head down to book a grab to the train station. It shouldve taken me around 5min to do it, but new regulation requires all user to take a selfie to make a booking. The problem is their selfie apps sucks, cant recognize my face, keep getting error like too bright, too close etc, and i cant take or share previously taken pictures to be submitted too. I wasted a good 20min trying and then gave up, asked my sister to book the grab for me instead. 

Grab car finally arrived, and sent me to the station. Upon buying train ticket, i realized i just missed my 11 am train, and next train is 11.30am, to catch my 12.30pm flight. Nothing worst than having to wait 30min at the train station when i know im already late. Booking a grab to go straight to the airport wouldve taken similar time anyway now, so I just patiently waited for the train. As i sat down, I even try to see online if i were to missed this flight, what is my alternative flight will cost me, and it is ridiculously expensive. 

I arrived at the airport, already checked in online, so rush to the gate, and of course, they wanted to weigh all the carry-on for all passengers. And it turns out im a little over, so had to take out some stuff, moved them to my backpack, and were also asked to go to counter to print a new boarding pass. At the counter, the nice lady kindly reminded me that it will be quite a walk to my gate (literally the last gate at the far end of Pier P) so she told me to rush there. Anyway, i was half running after passing the immigration and during the security check point, I was asked to removed some items from a bag for reinspection. It turns out, my lubes, looks like a huge water bottle, and after pulling them out, the security looked at the volume of the tube and its within the limit and all is well. Except i only have 4 mins to run to my gate before it is closed based on the schedule. I was running and watching my phone for time from time to time and arrived 1min before the schedule time, only to find out that they have not started boarding yet. 

Phew. I am all sweaty now, so as it seems they wont be boarding anytime soon, went to the bathroom to cool down, and used some paper towel to dry off. Lucky enough that inside the bathroom, there is a huge fan blowing for ventilation. I returned back to the gate and i realized, i didnt have my phone with me. Its not my first time this happens when im in a rush, so i calm myself down and look at the seats where it couldve fell down and i couldnt see it. Asked the nice guy next to my seat if he saw the phone, and at first he said no, and started looking around and few seconds later, he said he found it, under the seat next to him. One more crisis averted! Finally i can breathe normally, and starts to think about all the good things awaits me in Bangkok. I also got an aisle seat at Row 5, which is a hot seat, for free, so thats great. Layover in Surat Thani was uneventful, had my lunch there, and imigration was a breeze with only one flight arriving at that time. Since its a domestic flight to DMK, no queue at all at DMK to the bus/taxi area. 

I already planned to take taxi but as i walked towards the taxi counter, i passed by airport limo stand and they have direct bus to Khaosan and Phaya thai bts. Given that the time is now 6pm, it is peak hour and traffic will be bad, I thought this might be a good alternative. Though what seal the deal is when the promoter/ticket seller, a good looking thai guy persuaded me to buy the ticket, and says can avoid the traffic. I asked him but if i were to take bus to phaya thai, ill still be in traffic, and he said, at least i pay fixed rate. That makes a lot of sense, so I paid the ticket, 150 baht, travel in a very comfortable airport bus, having two seats to myself, and arrived at Phaya Thai BTS in an hour or so. Not the quickest, nor the cheapest but its great to try alternative, and this seems to be a good balance of comfort and value. They do go to Silom when its not peak hour though. Not sure where to take this from the international arrival though, as i only saw this counter at the domestic terminal. Arrived at hotel and in the room by 7:30pm.

Ill get to the night activities in the next post hehe.

[spoon]

First night Bar visit

I checked in at in my room by 7:30pm. Texted my KL friend, @maleire and told him i dont have simcard yet so we will have to set a meeting place and time, and im heading for dinner first. I also checked the forum and one member, @jason1975 sent a DM about a meet as well so i also texted him to let him know of my arrival. Went to dinner and back to hotel and we finally agree to meet at one of the bar near patpong entrance from surawong. It turned out to be Red Dragon sister bar, further inside than the Red dragon bar everyone is talking about. This bar gave a really nice view of dreamboys and some side view of lucky boy. 

Arrived around 9.45pm and jason already waiting with a drink in hand. Says hi and asked about his plan tonight, and seems like both of us are really free to roam any bar at the moment lol. I asked the auntie waiter for Wifi, and was given red dragon wifi, and texted maleire, and not long after, he arrived. We then exchange stories as maleire had been here since 16th and we started comparing notes and boys. Jason like different kind of boys but he was amazed at how well we both remembering the boys and numbers and of course our take on each of them lol. Close to 10pm, we parted way as jason made his way to lucky boy and maleire and me go to our favorite bar, moonlight.

We walked straight to the bar using the short cut through the short time rooms, and paid the entrance. Inside, its already almost full, so we grab seats near the walkway, back row where we have to share table to put our drink with people behind. Not ideal but knowing we seat in the middle and the models will do a show right in front of us, its worth to bear with the uncomfortable seat for a while. Mamasan recognized both of us, and apparently my friend asked mamasan about A yesterday and mamasan bring him to us, but instead have A sit next to me lol. Of course he remembers me well, and it doesnt take much before i called mamasan and decided to off him. Of course as always, i said to A i want to watch the show, so i order him a drink and he asked permission to change to street cloth. 

Show at moonlight is always great, and tonight, its as great as i remember. They keep their routine fresh with few new numbers every now and then. Of course my favorite Model, Nut, is where i dedicate most of attention to, whenever he is on stage, except during boom shake drop where Babe with his showmanship aura stole my sight when he is dancing a mere inches from my reach. Of course i tip him when he is shirtless and so close to me, and he stop his dancing and wai to take my tip, such a polite boy indeed. We stay a bit until the midnight show about to start to see which model is still around and only 4 model around, 3 from previous line up, and York which seems to join just for the midnight show. We leave moonlight together. Asked if A want to eat, and we 3 eat at a restaurant near surawong and later part way with me taking taxi to the hotel. 

Its always nice to be with familiar guy, and A on my first night is exactly what i wanted. Tried and tested, and we both knows what we like and boundaries. and of course, his body of a muscular god, still one of the best ive had, and exactly the kind that i prefer. And he agreed to stay long time, and left after breakfast together at hotel restaurant. Returned to the hotel and long time tip paid and this time, I didnt promise any future meeting but i did told him how long im staying this trip. One of the thing i like with A is his english is quite good, so we do have few chats, but this time, it seems to revolve around how moonlight already set tip amount when off is being set with customer, so some boys cant try to ask for more tips, unlike the case in jupiter. 

For me, there is a pro and cons. Having a set minimum  tips for ST and LT is a great thing as it gave general idea for customers and boys alike of what they can expect. anything more should be out of willingness for the quality of service rendered. But A was saying some customer wont give more than minimum thinking that the quoted tips is what they should pay. I guess it depends on culture as well. I usually give more if the initial quote is reasonable, and service is better than expected, but if the initial quote is already high, id probably add taxi money at most. Yes some customer might be willing to pay more, but its rare, and if they found out they have been overpaying, it will not fare well for the boy as well. Anyway, expectedly, I didnt discuss much on this topic with A, as im not comfortable to discuss money with him. And i definitely do not want to share what i pay with other boys, especially when not in Thailand hehe. 

[vinapu]

2 hours ago, spoon said:

... to book a grab to the train station. It shouldve taken me around 5min to do it, but new regulation requires all user to take a selfie to make a booking. The problem is their selfie apps sucks, cant recognize my face, keep getting error like too bright, too close etc, and i cant take or share previously taken pictures to be submitted too. I wasted a good 20min trying and then gave up, asked my sister to book the grab for me instead. 

 

Gee, shortly we will need  to scan passport, our fingerprints and certificate  of smallpox vaccination to get a taxi. Technology slowly is strangling us without anesthetic

[anddy]

Gosh, what a stressful departure from KL! Grab issues, check-in issues, hold up at security, running to the gate, losing phone.... doesn't get more hectic than that!
But for future trips remember that boarding almost NEVER starts at the time stated on the boarding pass. In my experience in at least 90% of the cases it starts at least 10 minutes, often 20 minutes later than stated, which is still enough time for an on time departure.

I'm a little confused though with this:   

12 hours ago, spoon said:

I arrived at the airport, already checked in online, so rush to the gate, and of course, they wanted to weigh all the carry-on for all passengers. And it turns out im a little over, so had to take out some stuff, moved them to my backpack, and were also asked to go to counter to print a new boarding pass. At the counter, the nice lady kindly reminded me that it will be quite a walk to my gate (literally the last gate at the far end of Pier P) so she told me to rush there.

On the one hand, you said "already checked in, so rush to the gate", but then it sounds you were actually at the check-in counter, not the flight gate, checking bag weights and reprinting boarding pass. Couldn't you really go straight through security & immigration with your own mobile (or home-printed) boarding pass?

[spoon]

7 minutes ago, anddy said:

Gosh, what a stressful departure from KL! Grab issues, check-in issues, hold up at security, running to the gate, losing phone.... doesn't get more hectic than that!
But for future trips remember that boarding almost NEVER starts at the time stated on the boarding pass. In my experience in at least 90% of the cases it starts at least 10 minutes, often 20 minutes later than stated, which is still enough time for an on time departure.

I'm a little confused though with this:   

On the one hand, you said "already checked in, so rush to the gate", but then it sounds you were actually at the check-in counter, not the flight gate, checking bag weights and reprinting boarding pass. Couldn't you really go straight through security & immigration with your own mobile (or home-printed) boarding pass?

Actually, if i use mobile check-in through the app, i could. But silly me, i checked in using the link on my email, so it was a web check in that require me to print the boarding pass at the kiosk. However, i can only print using kiosk 1 hour before departure. So i was obviously too late to do that. So i try to go to the departure gate, and thats where they were weighing in the bag. Since i was over, she asked me to pay for checked in luggage, as well as print boarding pass. I went to the counter nearest to the gate, got my boarding pass but instead of paying ridiculous amount for luggage, i shift some items to my relatively empty backpack and got the weight just enough for the lady at the gate to let me through. 

I do noticed chances are slim that the boarding happened on time. But i also had experienced before where the attendant closed the gate on time and i actually saw them closing the gate, and of course i had to wait overnight for the earliest flight the next day. I rather rush, get in some exercises along the way, than missing flight and all the fun awaits lol. As i wrote the experience, i still feel glad that i manage to catch the flight. The delay allows me to cool down and dry off, otherwise, my flight wouldve been very uncomfortable for me and person sitting next to me.

[Guest]

1 Zip up pockets are very useful when travelling, for phones, wallets, passports etc

2  Although planes almost never board on time, beware of ridiculously early boarding.   Had my name announced over the Tannoy for a BKK-Siem Reap flight.  I sprinted to the gate and was last on a bus which drove what must be the maximum possible distance from gate to plane at that airport.    

[spoon]

One thing i forgot to mention about my visit to moonlight. I recognized one guy i took LT before on previous trip in aug. He used to work in screwboys and i described him as jericho rosales look alike. Body is toned medium size but his smile is the winning feature of his whole outlook. He recognized me and as well as my friend, and did come to us both to greet. Too bad i was already with A that night, but im still on day 1 of my trip, plenty of time to rekindle our previous meeting lol While he stands out in screwboy as most of the other boys are twink type, he blends in better in moonlight. But both me and maleire agree that he is a terrible dancer lol. Not that he did lots of shows, just the one that all boys have to dance towards the end of the show and we cant stop laughing watching his effort to make some moves lol.

[spoon]

Day 2

After sending off A, went back to hotel for my customary nap before woke up and its time to get my sim card. Last trip in Aug, I just bough the 7 day simcard for 299 baht at the airport. But since ill be here for longer, I decided to go to Truemove outlet in Silom complex and get myself their 30days simcard instead, and topup some amount so i can continue add data as needed. Simcard cost is 50, and cheapest 7 day data is around 120 baht + tax and i have the flexibility to add more data for 1 day or 2 day. It is by far the cheapest way to have internet and calling ability and you dont have to change sim for 30 days. As a comparison, tourist sim card for 15 days will cost you 599 baht, so depends on your usage, its worth to look at all the options. If you want hassle free internet, tourist sim card will do just fine and it is still reasonably priced. 

As its not a good habit to eat lunch before a massage, i made my customary visit to Prime first. No issue getting a session immediately and allowed to choose masseur. Chose one that is the most acceptable physically, and i have to say again and again, Prime never disappoint me. The 2 hour oil massage was both strong and sensual, with particular attention to buttock areas, front chest and stomach, 3 areas most legit massage elsewhere usually avoid. Left Prime happy and well rested.Took the BTS to Ratchatewi to have lunch there and then went to BACC to look at their Spectrosynthesis II, Exposure to Tolerance :LGBT in Southeast Asia. The exhibition is still on going until 1st of March, and it has some very interested art, display and video that is worth paying yet, it is free to all. 

One of the things i still want to do in Bangkok is to finally see Wat arun during sunset as it was one of the most touristy things to do in Bangkok. I dont know why it took me this long to actually do this lol. Went to Saphan thaksin and then the boat, and made it just in time before Wat arun temple being lighted up, but unfortunately, i forgot that the boat north bound didnt stop at Tha Tien, or i didnt let the conductor knows i want to go out there, so instead went off at Tha chang pier and wait for a south bound boat to Wat arun again. Nevertheless, i managed to capture some beautiful Wat Arun pictures with a great colorful background of the sunset. Definitely worth the hassle to go there during sunset, maybe next trip i want to either stay for a drink in one of the cafe on the other sides of Wat arun, or perhaps an early dinner at one of the fancy restaurant there. 

Time to go back and this time i chose to try the MRT next extension, few minutes walk from Tha Tian Market and walk back to Hotel from Silom station. The new station is impressive, and the decor is excellent and this line makes travelling to chinatown easy too. However, i have yet visited China town, but after watching Bangkok Love Stories : Plead, it will be in my list to go visit next trip. If you need a good cry, this series is perfect for such ocassion. 

Tonight bar visit is again with my friend maleire and jason. I texted both of them to set a date and time, and we agree on one of the bar in Soi 4 for people watching/dinner and drinks before heading to Jupiter for our night entertainment. Set to meet at 9pm, I had some snacks at the hotel and went up to clean up and get ready for the night out. Jason and maleire was already at the welcome bar when i arrived and they both ordered some dish for dinner, and i just had a drink as i already eat some snack back at hotel, not to mentioned my late lunch after the massage. We sit there for a while and saw few boys i recognized on their way to Jupiter. There are some cute tourist as wells, and jason mentioned the cute jupiter waiter he has been eyeing for a while lol. 

Splitting again due to length of the post.

[spoon]

We made our way to Jupiter after dinner, a bit early to watch the boys and we actually got a good seat on on the right side of the stage, and mamasan ti immediately asked all of us if we have anyone we like. I take a look at the boys on stage and i can only recognized a few of them, who were there during my visit in aug, while the rest wasa either new or wasnt there when i visit previously. Unfortunately i couldnt see #37. but #88 is there, #31 is there, 38# is also there. A lot of the boys are offing material for me. 2 of them are especially noticeable as they sport korean KPOP look, complete with stunning hair, flawless fair skin, but mamasan told us 2 of them, if im not mistaken #12 and #14 did not go with male customer. I didnt see mehkin though. But one particular guy i wanted to see even before my trip is a guy from cambodian, featured in Vinapu trip report as handsome cambodian. 

A bit of background story. This guy is someone i took before during my last year trip, my virgin visit to pattaya. At first i thought that he is someone with a different name. Later before my trip there, I got to know that he has moved to Jupiter, so my visit this time is to finally solved that mystery, whether the guy i took last year in pattaya is the same guy feature in Vinapu report or not. Anyway, as soon as our eyes met, mystery solved. The handsome Cambodian, Y, immediately noticed me, smiling widely and waving his hand to me, or maybe to my friend maliere, who knows. But then, using his hand, he asked if i know the guy next to me, i just nodded and says friend, and he seems to understood lol. Its no secret maleire and me have lots of overlap in the guys we like, and i can say the same with vinapu too lol. Anyway, after a few hesitation, i told mamasan to bring Y to me. 

Previously, in pattaya, I only took him ST, and he seems reluctant to go for LT. This time, in my mind, Im ready to say no if he insist on ST, and would take a different guy, who is still available at that time. As he sit next to me, I asked him if he will go long time with me, and without hesitation, he says yes. I was quite shocked but really happy and told mamasan that im offing him. Finally, i get to have him for LT session. He went to change clothes and sit next to me. We talk a bit about his movement to jupiter. When the show ended, maleire excused himself, and i also told jason i should get going as well. Jason did update about this visit in Jupiter thread if im not mistaken, and to recap, he did buy some garland from mamasan and gave one to one of the best dancer there. 

Y and I made our way out of the bar, and he asked where do i stay. I told him Pullman G, and he understood. Then i asked if he wanted to eat first and he said yes and lead the way to surawong side going through patpong 1. When we passed by lucky boy, he stopped and told me to wait a bit, as he is picking up some stuff from a friend. Mamasan lucy was there and started chatting with him and hug him. Later i find out that he used to work in lucky boy for 1 day before moving to jupiter. In his word, he says mamasan lucy is crazy lol, and I concur haha. Anyway, we ate at one of the small soi in Surawong that sells chicken rice and noodle soup. He ordered chicken rice, and i ordered noodle soup, and we did small talk, the usual how long is my stay etc. He then ordered one more noodle soup and then chicken rice to go. When we about to leave, to my surprise, he insist on paying for his diner. That is the first time I had boy insist on paying. 

I then asked if he wanted to take taxi, as my hotel isnt that near, and he asked if i want taxi or walking. I said i usually just walk and he said lets walk. While walking, we talk again and i shared that im going to Laos for 3 night after christmas and he said he want to go with me. This is the first time a guy, whom ive yet did long time with, volunteer himself to go to a trip with me. I didnt immediately tell him yes or no, though in my mind, I was so happy that such a hunk actually want to go to Laos with me, but i kept my cool and want to see how things go first tonight. 

Our session was even better than i imagine. He is eager to please, and dont mind me being clingy after lol. He does smoke, which usually a big no for me before, but with him, somehow, i can tolerate this. If anyone recall my previous trip, he stood me up on new years eve before, but i know why the day after from his friends, so I didnt hold any grudge, but if anything, this time around, he really make it up and then some more. He told me he changed his line, and a bit more backstory of why he left pattaya, as well as some of his problem back home. His english isnt perfect but we can hold some conversation which is great. And best of all, none of the issues relate to money, so it was not a ploy for me to tip him more. But i do feel closer to him more than before when the boy start to open up about his life.

We had another quickie in the morning and then went to breakfast at the hotel. After breakfast, we head back to hotel and I gave him his well deserved LT tips, and now that we had a LT session together, i asked him again if he really wants to go to Laos with me and gets a resounding yes. My heart skipped a beat when i heard that lol, but my mind is working out the budget in my head. I then asked how much tip he expect, and he said just pay me LT tip each night which is very reasonable. I wanted to say yes then and there, but i figure i should wait a bit, and maybe asked opinion of my wingman (u know who u are) before committing. So i said to him I'll let him know via Line. 

[Jasper]

Thanks for great report.

I am surprised to hear that Y does long time as you know most boys prefer short time these days.

 

[vinapu]

2 hours ago, Jasper said:

...... does long time as you know most boys prefer short time these days.

 

still, by my experience  no shortage of those who use calculator and know secret that LT tip is much more than ST tip .

And if guy rejects LT idea today never hurts to ask next time, be it tomorrow, next week  or next trip. Minds are being changed , often after ST with us.

Also never go by what reports are saying. Guy which may not be willing to go LT with me but may go with you or,  praise the Lord, other way around.

Y's case proves the point,  as reported by me I needed to do use some diplomacy to convince him I'm even ST client material with LT out of question, Spoon did not have any problems in securing LT. No prize for guessing which one of us is younger and better looking.

Boy insisting on paying  his  dinner, that's rare breed indeed. Lucky Spoon for landing guy with such ethics, not to mention looks.

[ggobkk]

1 hour ago, vinapu said:

Boy insisting on paying  his  dinner, that's rare breed indeed. Lucky Spoon for landing guy with such ethics, not to mention looks.

“Lucky “ Spoon...I agree.  

[Boy69]

7 hours ago, spoon said:

After breakfast, we head back to hotel and I gave him his well deserved LT tips, and now that we had a LT session together, i asked him again if he really wants to go to Laos with me and gets a resounding yes. My heart skipped a beat when i heard that lol, but my mind is working out the budget in my head. I then asked how much tip he expect, and he said just pay me LT tip each night which is very reasonable. I wanted to say yes then and there, but i figure i should wait a bit, and maybe asked opinion of my wingman (u know who u are) before committing. So i said to him I'll let him know via Line. 

LT trip with a boy is very risky I did it couple of times, with some boys it was great fun like 'boyfreind' experience and I enjoyed it very much but some trips were disaster the boy doesn't like to wake up early , doesn't want to make outdoor activities, doesn't like the sun and beaches and so on it really depends on the boy character and the chemistry between you too. Take into consideration that the daily costs are doubled besides the LT fee you agreed to pay.

[vinapu]

11 hours ago, Boy69 said:

Take into consideration that the daily costs are doubled besides the LT fee you agreed to pay.

but it can be very rewarding to have guy at hand at all time, not just for 1-2 hrs or only overnight. 

[GWMinUS]

When I would visit Thailand, many years ago. I always ask for Long Time and even took a "BF" for Trips. All were great! I very much enjoy getting to know a guy!!

Now that I usually visit Cebu City in the Philippines I plan on at least 3 days or 5 days with my Guy. And many want to spend the entire 3 weeks together. HAHAHA  There is no Tip for my Guys, but we do go Shopping...

And at my age it is a big help to have an able bodied young man along!!

[spoon]

20 hours ago, Jasper said:

Thanks for great report.

I am surprised to hear that Y does long time as you know most boys prefer short time these days.

 

I have my theory about why Y does long time with me. He really remembers that he chose someone else even though he already agree LT with me before a year ago in pattaya BBB. He just started working in bangkok for a month plus, so money might be a factor too. And given the lineup of jupiter boys, competition must be fierce. Also, seeing familar faces when he is in new club also shows he does brings customers to the club. 

Vinapu claims because im younger (well yes) and better looking (unfounded lol) might be the case but i do think my asian look makes walking with him to my hotel seems like two friends walking together, same goes when we were at the hotel buffet breakfast, as compared with him and another farang. But i do think he doesnt care much about this in bangkok compared when he is in pattaya, where he had worked for so long and have some reputation to protect. 

18 hours ago, vinapu said:

And if guy rejects LT idea today never hurts to ask next time, be it tomorrow, next week  or next trip. Minds are being changed , often after ST with us.

Also never go by what reports are saying. Guy which may not be willing to go LT with me but may go with you or,  praise the Lord, other way around.

Y's case proves the point,  as reported by me I needed to do use some diplomacy to convince him I'm even ST client material with LT out of question, Spoon did not have any problems in securing LT. No prize for guessing which one of us is younger and better looking.

Boy insisting on paying  his  dinner, that's rare breed indeed. Lucky Spoon for landing guy with such ethics, not to mention looks.

 

16 hours ago, ggobkk said:

“Lucky “ Spoon...I agree.  

I dont know if lucky is the word to use. Im equally surprised he insisted. But maybe it is his habit, or maybe he knows that most customer find this very attractive and manly behaviour, and he can recouped them back from the tips later anyway especially when he is eyeing for a trip to laos? Hehe whatever it is, the gesture is definitely appreciated and make him very unique indeed. 

[spoon]

16 hours ago, Boy69 said:

LT trip with a boy is very risky I did it couple of times, with some boys it was great fun like 'boyfreind' experience and I enjoyed it very much but some trips were disaster the boy doesn't like to wake up early , doesn't want to make outdoor activities, doesn't like the sun and beaches and so on it really depends on the boy character and the chemistry between you too. Take into consideration that the daily costs are doubled besides the LT fee you agreed to pay.

Yup, i do know there are added costs to bring a boy with me on a trip. Ive done such trip before, and considering the increased in costs, vs 24 hour a day access with the boy of my dream, its worth every cent lol. If boys needed some free time to do what they want during the day, i dont mind that at all, its better to be separated for a while than being forced to do things they dont want and result in sour mood whole day, and those can be brought forward to the night too. As long as the boy deliver the nightly activities as expected of them. 

4 hours ago, vinapu said:

but it can be very rewarding to have guy at hand at all time, not just for 1-2 hrs or only overnight. 

Agreed! Overnight is great, but whole day is different story altogether. 

1 hour ago, GWMinUS said:

When I would visit Thailand, many years ago. I always ask for Long Time and even took a "BF" for Trips. All were great! I very much enjoy getting to know a guy!!

Now that I usually visit Cebu City in the Philippines I plan on at least 3 days or 5 days with my Guy. And many want to spend the entire 3 weeks together. HAHAHA  There is no Tip for my Guys, but we do go Shopping...

And at my age it is a big help to have an able bodied young man along!!

Agreed that other than companion during day and night, Y proof to me that he is more useful as travel partner as well, will elaborate about this when the time comes