Dec 2019 - 7th and final report: peaking and a dud

[12is12]

On this unintended repeat visit I decided to take a look at the clubs I didn't visit 3 weeks ago. Also, I was piqued by DanKFQ's observations in his thread: that when he entered Golden Cock, the boys outside were actually surprised that a customer had showed up (duh.....); and that since he was the only one there, he became focus of all attention. I was hoping I'll spoil myself with a couple of twinks on each side.....Alas! it was not to be.

Golden Cock turned out to be a small unappealing room, barely a meter between the 'stage' and the seats. As I entered, there were 6 'boys' standing in front of two customers. As all attention swerved toward the newcomer, the two looked between bored and alarmed. I took one look at the stage and fled: 2 were fat, by any definition of the term; 2 were old, well past past past their prime; and all were unappealing. I said thank you, exited, and went to Nature Boy. There was no need to enter; the guy outside said there was only one boy inside. Again "thank you" and backtracked to Tawan. I'm not into bodybuilders, but I figured since I was already there - I'd just take a peak. They readily agreed to let me look for a moment before paying, and so I did. The place looked shabby; there were a few customers and about 8-10 boys (actually men), all indeed with huge biceps. Most of them also had if not huge than at least big protruding bellies, the opposite of six packs. I retreated for a third time, and made my way to the main cluster.  

Hotmale turned out to be similar to Screw and Fresh, and no boy there drew my attention. Proceeded to Jupiter, which was the only club refusing a request for a peak. [It seems an unreasonable marketing policy, but I assume they understand their business better than I do.] Unsurprisingly I ended up again at the one club I remembered fondly: DreamBoys. I sat through two shows with routines I had already seen 3 weeks ago. The real gorgeous guy there is the one wearing a policeman uniform: great non-twinkish body, and he seems to really enjoys his moves. For some reason it didn't cross my mind to ask if he's off-able; maybe his is a model's rate. In any case, he was called to sit between two Chinese(?) young ladies, and I envied them. After offing a cute twink #72 and before leaving, I went up to the sitting policeman and gave him a 200 baht tip (which apparently surprised him, maybe because he's used to getting tips only on stage).

Before offing Kim 72, the mamasan obliged me by bringing him and his drink to sit with me outside, so we could actually HEAR each other. He was nice, promised to do everything (kiss, suck, etc.), and off we went. It wasn't so nice once in bed. At some point when I motioned him to suck me, he said "I top no suck". I reminded him that's not what he had previously said, so he started opening a condom for a suck. Again I said no, he relented, but the vibe was already lost despite his efforts to satisfy me. After the deed was done, I paid him his due without additions. 

 

That was my final club night. I'm glad I've re-introduced myself to the scene after a 10-years hiatus. My thought was that if this goes well, I'll become a twice-a-year regular. However, as explained 3 weeks ago, I'm unattracted to the club scene. I would have enjoyed myself immensely sitting-interacting generously with a boy or two, evening in evening out, but I just can't stand the overpowering music making communication impossible. Also, to my disappointment, I don't find the racier routines erotically arousing. I SHALL be back, but with more realistic expectations.

Thanks again to all who guided me through my research, and thus helped me make the most of gaytown BKK. Wish you all happy happy!          

 

[Boy69]

3 hours ago, 12is12 said:

It wasn't so nice once in bed. At some point when I motioned him to suck me, he said "I top no suck". I reminded him that's not what he had previously said, so he started opening a condom for a suck. Again I said no, he relented, but the vibe was already lost

This is the problem when the boy is straight and actually gay for pay ,this is why I will never off a boy unless I am sure he's gay or at least bi sexual, I did it once and faced similar situation as you described and won't repeat it again although some members here report good experience with such kind of boys.

[DrimVoiz]

Yup, yup that boy wearing policeman uniform is the best performer in Dreamboys, I think, bcoz he got nice (and somewhat erotic, lol) dance moves...when I was there, he was wearing a cowboy costume, and wow, he's a great dancer!!! Idk #72, I'm just wondering if my regular #65 was there when you visit, if not, he was offed for a week again by a customer (maybe even abroad), haa haa...I'm a bit surprised you skipped Moonlight?! Tnx 4 d report 12!!!

[vinapu]

14 hours ago, 12is12 said:

 

.....mamasan obliged me by bringing him and his drink to sit with me outside, so we could actually HEAR each other.

 

.......I just can't stand the overpowering music making communication impossible.

 

we must be long-lost twins as these are exactly my thoughts  after leaving Dreamboys and I even reported here music lever as 'idiotic".

Jupiter was equally bad last time I was there

[vinapu]

11 hours ago, Boy69 said:

This is the problem when the boy is straight and actually gay for pay.......although some members here report good experience with such kind of boys.

guilty as charged

[12is12]

Vinapu,

I had all my life felt that a long lost twin is wandering the cosmos, looking for me. At last, we find each other!!!

You are much more in the know. How about this radical idea?

You and other members known to managing staff propse to them to significantly lower the music, to concersational level. Can't see any risk in it, and might encourage offing.

At least on a trial basis.....

[GWMinUS]

16 hours ago, 12is12 said:

Again I said no, he relented, but the vibe was already lost despite his efforts to satisfy me. After the deed was done, I paid him his due without additions. 

If I had been in this situation I would have taken him back to Dreamboys and demanded my Off Fee back and certainly nothing for the Liar!

[12is12]

I concur; such a response sits better with my (overly?) assertive nature.

However, he didn't refuse; he tried to refuse, but I didn't let him. I did write that he later tried to satisfy me.

Don't think it's appropriate to demand a refund for killing the vibe.

[GWMinUS]

In my years of going to Thailand, I have returned several Packages that already had been opened. Because they were not as Specified!! HAHAHA The Mamasan did not give me any difficulty getting my Off Fee back. And the Guy heard from me speaking directly to the Mamasan.

[Boy69]

23 minutes ago, GWMinUS said:

If I had been in this situation I would have taken him back to Dreamboys and demanded my Off Fee back and certainly nothing for the Liar!

Certainly not! Every boy has his limits what he can do and what he can't and we have to respect this after all we are dealing with human and not with sex robot.

[GWMinUS]

You are welcome to your

6 minutes ago, Boy69 said:

Certainly not! Ever boy has his limits what he can do and what he can't and we have to respect this after all we are dealing with human and not with sex robot.

You are entitled to your own opinion. But If I paid 500PHP for an Off Fee and the Guy goes back on what we discussed at the Bar with the Mamasan, then he deserves to Go Back! I do not feel that is disrespecting him. I am the one who was disrespected. And I have not treated him like a Robot. I would do the same if I hired a Repair Man here in the USA and he came out and then refused to do the work...

[Boy69]

I am referring to the OP experience with the boy in general he had positive one just the boy didn't agree to do certain thing but overall made efforts to satisfy the OP so taking  him back to the bar and demanded the Off Fee back seems to me too radical ,you may be correct if the boy is willing to do almost anything with you so there is no point but to send him back to the bar.

[vinapu]

21 hours ago, 12is12 said:

 Vinapu,

How about this radical idea?

You and other members known to managing staff propose to them to significantly lower the music, to conversational level.

I'm nobody there, not known to managing staff there neither frequenting it that often so my voice would not weight in their decision. I rather give wide berth if it's too loud  and go to Tawan or Moonlight or have massage at Bangkok Massage

[12is12]

I humbly submit "it" should be substituted by "them": music is way too loud in all clubs.

My impression was that in this sense ML is the worse.

[DivineMadman]

5 minutes ago, 12is12 said:

I humbly submit "it" should be substituted by "them": music is way too loud in all clubs.

 

I think there are some studies out there that support the conclusion that bar and club patrons actually drink more when the music is louder.  Unfortunate but true.  So I wouldn't expect any changes.  (You can google "why is music so loud in bars.")

For the beer bars, some forum posters who have hung out with me can confirm that I never hesitate to ask the bars to take the music down a notch, and in my experience the bars always comply, at least for a while until a new bartender or manager comes in and kicks up the music, but then all it takes is a polite request and problem solved (again).  It might help that I'm a bit of regular and get along well with the staff.  The goal is a bit of compromise - the bars want and deserve the high energy "vibe" so I would never expect the volume to be turned all the way down.  Just not morlam loud.  

If I'm going to a gogo bar or morlam or nightclub, I always bring ear plugs.  You can get so-called "high fidelity" earplugs that are a bit better than just the foam plugs, but I'm not sure they're worth it.  

[12is12]

Thanks Divine; I used ear plugs, but of course a normal short conversation with boys is still impossible.

[Nasherich]

On 12/11/2019 at 3:55 AM, 12is12 said:

I humbly submit "it" should be substituted by "them": music is way too loud in all clubs.

My impression was that in this sense ML is the worse.

I am inclined to agree about ML. I found it uncomfortably loud and my ears were ringing for some afterwards. Can't be good for anyone's aural health.

[vinapu]

1 hour ago, Nasherich said:

 I found it uncomfortably loud and my ears were ringing for some afterwards. Can't be good for anyone's aural health.

we patrons come and go but I feel sorry for boys who are subject of that " treatment "  night after night

[Londoner]

Yes.... no doubt they pay a heavy price in later years. They should be offered ear-plugs. No....a better idea; turn the bloody music down. Who really enjoys it?  

[traveller123]

It is not just the bars and clubs.

It is a common occurrence in rural Thailand when the music starts blasting out at 6.00am for any wedding, funeral, new house party, send a boy to be a monk etc.

[spoon]

Agreed, the loudest music ive heard was when the cupidol boss having bday celebration and have multiple huge speakers placed outside the bars blasting musics all night at boyztown. Glad that i was not staying at boyztown that day, but instead staying at the peaceful zing in jomtien

[vinapu]

8 hours ago, spoon said:

Glad that i was not staying at boyztown that day, but instead staying at the peaceful zing in jomtien

Zing may be peaceful but I had sleepless night at TheVenue when Q Mark bar had their party, couldn't sleep at all so went at 2 am to see what racket is all about and ended bringing one of their waiters as consolation. I still remember conversation with him : he" are sleeping alone tonight ?", me : ' no , with you".

Racket continued but at least I had my never calming consolation.

Venue is not for light sleepers but still can be recommended because comfortable and sizeable rooms they have

 

[DrimVoiz]

Actually, I don't have issue with loud music...tbh I did not notice that the music is in high volume...or maybe I was just busy exploring the boys' body and muscles (and private part, lol) and looking at the boys' face as we talk, maybe that's why?! Haa haa

[spoon]

I consider my hearing is great at my age, and loud music is as annoying to me as the smell of smoking. But i perservere due to the boys. Its minor trade off in my opinion to what i can experience with the other 4 senses. Having said that, if i made my decision, and music is too loud, id probably off the guy and go somewhere else instead.

[Londoner]

Im conscious that I've bored many a board (well, two) with my complaints about loud music but Spoon's reference to Cupidol reminds me that I was a victim that night as well. At 0200, I looked over the Ambiance balcony to see what was happening and was irritated that the "show" was for the benefit of only four customers, all- as far I could discern- falangs. I thought it bad enough when an even louder party outside Copa a few years back had attracted a mere twelve punters at 0300...but four?