Popular Post ichigo Posted October 21, 2019 Popular Post Posted October 21, 2019 Hi all. A bit of a trip report from my latest trip to Bangkok. It's not really that chock-a-block full of sexual escapades but hopefully there will be some interest! So a little back story - I went to Pattaya back in April and met a guy at Royal House whom I had a good time with. Let's call him J. So we kept in contact via line and I invited him to stay with me on my next trip to Bangkok (as he was now living in Bangkok). He was pretty excited, and often sent messages 'I can't wait to see you' etc. I on the other hand was a little trepidatious as my experience of Thai guys is limited to "massages" mainly, and in my home country I'm pretty introverted and prefer to be by myself most of the time, so inviting someone to stay with me was something quite different for me. But I just thought 'fuck it', I need to open up to new experiences and just see how it goes (which it didn't really).. read on to find out! Day 1: travelled from my home country to Singapore for a 6 hour stopover (love Changi Airport) around the hours of 2:30am - 8:30am. There's surprisingly still a lot to do there at stupid o'clock. I messaged J to let him know when I would be arriving and he said he would meet me at the airport, I said he didn't have to but he insisted. Landed at Suvarnabhumi at about 9:50am, immigration took ages, but my suitcase was already at the carousel as I got out. As I exited into the arrivals area, no sign of J, sent him a message and made my way down to the basement to exchange some money. I didn't know whether or not to wait, so I just waited a little bit and he messaged back saying that he was asleep. No problem, so I said that I would meet him later as I wanted to rest first. Took the airport link and BTS to Chong Nonsi where my hotel was - I Residence Silom. The hotel was okay, I probably wouldn't stay there again. It was a little run down and rough around the edges, and the bathroom was small, but they are doing some renovations and there are some newer rooms. Bit confusing at times are there are 3 different buildings that are not connected, but I think some of the floors are. Finding the breakfast room and the rooftop pool was a bit of an adventure, but I got there in the end. But the staff were really nice, location was really good (right outside the BTS Chong Nonsi), and sooo many places to eat nearby (restaurants, street food, etc), as well as a 7/11, King Power Mahanakhon across the road (which I will get to later), and Baantewa and Arena are walking distance. Getting to the Silom area is walkable or a very short train ride. Ate lunch at Lon Lon (very nice), and met J a little later in the evening. We met at Siam Paragon, had a bit of a wander, looked for something to eat, he wanted to eat at a Japanese seafood buffet for 1000 baht per person, I said no and told him I am not a rich farang, and ended up eating at Boon Tong Kee, which is a restaurant that I've eaten at in Singapore. Took the BTS back to my hotel, and this is where things started to become weird. So as soon as we got in, he was literally stuck to his phone. Like, I will admit that I spend a lot of time on my phone as well, but this just took the cake. I was in the bed, and he eventually came to bed (still on the phone) and I had to snuggle up to him to get 'things' started. It just felt like that spark that we had a few months ago wasn't there. I'm a pretty realistic person, I'm not expecting him to spend every waking moment with me, but at least put your phone down when I'm snuggling up to you and maybe give me a bit of attention? Anyway, after we finished I went to sleep because I was pretty tired, and he slept sometime later. Day 2: Shortly after waking, snuggled up to him, surprise surprise he was on his phone, but we got 'started' after I literally started jerking myself off, he got the picture. I respect these guys, they are people too, so I don't want to force him to do anything that he doesn't want to do, but then what do I get? Why are you even here? So anyway, today we took the BTS up to chatuchak market and wandered around for a few hours. Love this place, it's so big! I bought few clothes for myself, and I bought J some clothes as well, as well as lunch. Throughout the day I was thinking to myself, I don't want to spend the rest of the week with him, how am I going to break it to him gently. So we took the BTS back (him still on the phone, and nearly missed getting off the train as he was too engrossed with whatever he was playing), and when we got to the room he told me that he wanted to go back to his room to change clothes and get his ID, so I took the opportunity and told him that I wanted to spend a few days by myself and I would message him in a few days. He was okay with it, asked for 1000 baht to send to his mum, so I gave him 2000 baht because at this stage I wasn't sure it I was going to see him again. After he left I just felt kinda free. But I did think about it, what could I have done to make the situation better? Should I have spoilt him more? Should I have not smoked around him? Should I have just communicated better and let him know what I wanted? or was he just a dud? I don't know.. anyway, I wasn't upset or anything, just chalking it down to experience, and I'll do better next time. J did end up calling a little later asking if I was okay, and I said yes and just explained that I am not used to having someone with me all the time (I didn't tell him the real reason). A little later I went out to Silom Complex and ate at Bon Chon (really good fried chicken), bought some of those face masks that lots of Thais are wearing these days, and went across the road for a foot massage at Rapee. 250 baht and 200 baht tip because it was quite good. At the end he even did a bit of an arm, neck, back, and head massage, and even cracked my back, which I always think is hilarious for some reason when I hear all the popping noises. Day 3: to come soon! Tintinx, vinapu, spoon and 7 others 9 1 Quote
vinapu Posted October 21, 2019 Posted October 21, 2019 Room at IResidence looks quite nice. Never stay there but passed by it many times on my way from Chong Nonsi to soi 3. Location is superb indeed. Sorry to hear your QBE / quasi boyfriend experience / did not work. But if we don't try we will not know, right? It's one thing to have fabulous 1-2 hours massage or short time but long time is different matter. You right that guy don't need to spent every waking hour with you in such arrangement although in the room I'd say he should be available all the time. Its wise though to give him free time outside hotel. When I took Z from Pattya to BKK in Sept rule imposed on him by me was that during day he is free man but at night time he should be with me in the room ( it did not work quite lie that but we were close catching for lost night time in a broad daylight). Your smoking was likely not reason for his behavior although it's always nice to be considerate. Yes you could communicate better what you expect, it always works as guys are not mind readers and signals we send may be misinterpreted. If you enter room together and and your first moments are spent on the phone instead of on him, that is unmistakably signal that he can do the same - not sure it was a case. Strong prolonged hug, including wandering had here and there ( although not THERE ) it's always first thing i do after door are closed. I get feel of him and he gets reminder what he is here for. No, you did not need to spoil him more , guys are coming with us not to be spoiled , they expect cash compensation and spoilage and gifts are not substitutes for it, just icing on the cake even if very generous. Whole phone thing could be avoided either by communicating clearly he should put it away or if you shy to do it , by placing your hand on the screen so he can see that you don like of what he is doing. Works for me 100 % 1000 and even 2000 for a whole night is not overwhelming tip for BKK standards but if that's what he asked for that's fine. refusing that 1000 / plate buffet was right thing , it would sent wrong signal as to your spending habit and potential. After few good days , yes, but not at the first try In my opinion you did not do anything wrong other that not stopping phone nonsense immediately . As often , memories of first encounter for both of you did not translate into anything exciting after months of absence. One of those cases when we wonder what we saw in that guy at the first place. In future it will most likely happen again with other guys as well. Don't worry about anything , just carry on with burden of fun. If he contacts you looking for another time together if you feel like seeing him forget about malls and restaurants , bring him right to the room and tell him to leave that phone off moment he pulls it from his pocket.. Do the same with yours. If you don't want to see him , just tell him that it's not option for now, don't lie about seeing in few days if you don't have such intention. If he asks why, mention that phone " you like your phone more than me' for example. Have fun and don't forget about us here, we are waiting ........... ichigo and BL8gPt 2 Quote
Nasherich Posted October 21, 2019 Posted October 21, 2019 I had a similar awkward experience when I took a guy I'd met in Phuket to Chiang Mai for a week a couple of months later. Somehow things just didn't click and after a few days I just wanted out. But as we were both away from our home towns, that was impossible. So we had to soldier on not really communicating. I vowed never to do it again, at least not without trying a holiday together in their home town first so at least one of us can escape. ichigo 1 Quote
ichigo Posted October 22, 2019 Author Posted October 22, 2019 Thank you for your reply wise guru @vinapu! Really sage advice, and will take on board next time. In these sorts of situations I kinda just want to go with the flow, and see what happens sorta thing. I'm a person who likes to avoid confrontation. But as you said: 1 hour ago, vinapu said: But if we don't try we will not know, right? which I totally agree with. I just wanted to give it a shot, and it didn't quite turn out the way I expected, but then again partly my fault as I wasn't clear with my expectations (which I didn't have many as I wanted to go with the flow!) But food for thought definitely. I've already been back home for a couple of weeks now so all of the trip has finished, so more to come when I have a chance to sit down and type it out! @Nasherich Yeah I can imagine how awkward that may have been, I guess I was lucky with my guy who was living in Bangkok so he wasn't too far from home. But we all live and learn right? Quote
vinapu Posted October 22, 2019 Posted October 22, 2019 48 minutes ago, ichigo said: ......I guess I was lucky with my guy who was living in Bangkok so he wasn't too far from home. But we all live and learn right? it could be worse, imagine him clinging to you every second of each day ( Ok, bathroom breaks excluded ) and at end getting very emotional at good bye part. At least you got your freedom ichigo 1 Quote
spoon Posted October 22, 2019 Posted October 22, 2019 Or worse, he can make a huge scene when u told him to not come back. ichigo 1 Quote
Boy69 Posted October 22, 2019 Posted October 22, 2019 The boy told you how excited he is to see you and will meet you at the airport but then came 2 warning signs : 1.He didn't come to meet you at the airport and sent you a message that he is sleeping ! 2. Once arrive to the room he preferred to communicate with his phone rather with you. It's clear signs that he isn't into you at all but don't mind to go for it for the money if I were you once he massaged that he preferres to sleep rather to meet at the airport I would massage him back that he doesn't have to bother to come at all and cancel the whole deal with him . As I advised on other topics 24/7 a day with a boy is usually not a good experience unless you have great chemistry between you two I like to wake up early eat breakfast and then go the beach /pool/ shopping or other activities but most of the boys prefer to sleep long hours till late and are very lazy sometimes I have the filling that they want as much money as they can extract from you and do as much little as they can once they're with you so on my upcoming trip no more 24/7 without a boy only ST or LT "till breakfast" as Vinapu suggested. vinapu and ichigo 2 Quote
Boy69 Posted October 22, 2019 Posted October 22, 2019 6 hours ago, Nasherich said: I had a similar awkward experience when I took a guy I'd met in Phuket to Chiang Mai for a week a couple of months later. Somehow things just didn't click and after a few days I just wanted out. But as we were both away from our home towns, that was impossible. So we had to soldier on not really communicating. I vowed never to do it again, at least not without trying a holiday together in their home town first so at least one of us can escape. It's really depends on the chemistry between you two. I once met a boy in Phuket we had great experience together so I took him with me to Pattaya for the last week of my vacation we had a lot of fun on the other side on other vacation I met beutiful boy in Pattaya we agreed that he will stay with me the whole vacation as he suggested and I bought flight ticket to Phuket for him but he turned to be capricious spoiled and lazy we had big fight and decided to cancelled the deal with him and didn't took him with me to Phuket gave him his fee for the week he had been with me in Pattaya and sent him away. I vowed never to do it again too ! ichigo 1 Quote
Popular Post DivineMadman Posted October 22, 2019 Popular Post Posted October 22, 2019 There's a whole exhaustive /-ing thread on how to navigate trips and/or the "boyfriend experience." https://www.gayguides.com/forums/topic/11328-travelling-with-gogo-boy. [Note - the link to this discussion in the so-called "timeless" section is not correct.] Personally, I have great luck traveling and spending time with my guy-of-the-moment. I encourage people to try it if they think they might enjoy it. It may not be for everyone - and not everyone is right for it - but it can be a wonderful experience. I was probably lucky my first few times and now I might even have learned a bit more and it all works for me and, so far, for my companions. I think that real-time communication is the first most important, second most important and third most important thing to making it work. Also - and I'll confess this was a bit of a revelation to me - communication problems are not 50-50 (duh). Each of us is 100% responsible for communication if it's about something that we care about. If you see something you don't like, say something. Be clear, be double clear, confirm the mutual understanding. And raise issues quickly. Don't let things fester (a particular sin of mine). Your guy will 99.9% of the time adapt if you're being fair. I think that some (or many) working guys do indeed think that one part of the "boyfriend experience" absolutely is shopping. It is very common and happens every day (at least here in Bangkok). And it happened in the OP's situation. I don't like shopping for myself, much less someone else but following my own "communication-communication-communication" rule I let any guy with me know I don't do shopping. Any of these up-close-and-personal experiences in close quarters over anything longer than a short time are bound to be a bit bumpy, because flawed human beings with all their expectations, issues and anxieties, etc. are involved. And there may be things going in a guy's life that might make him shy, distracted, upset about something that may, or may not, have anything to do with you. Or maybe that gentle tease actually got taken the wrong way. We don't know. There's actual science (!) out there that says that we human beings are terrible at our judgments about other people's motives. Almost comically, we assign bad motives to people (other than those in our "in" group). So now I try to avoid that sort of thinking, or at least be aware of the pitfalls - "he must have done this because..." and just stick to the facts and try be more about understanding and less about vilifying, particularly when I'm dealing with someone who is a less than half my age. But if it's not working out, best to pull the plug. OP handled it well. Looking forward to the next installment. vinapu, reader, ichigo and 6 others 8 1 Quote
spoon Posted October 22, 2019 Posted October 22, 2019 Definitely chemistry is important. My first time being with a boy was in my country, so no way out if things goes awry. But ive had him on LT for 5 times before, so not much mystery between us before the trip. Of course the advice (most of them in the timeless forum) helps a lot too. I also know he has travelled with other customers befoee as well, and saw him shares the diiferent type of dishes he enjoys to eat, so i know he is used to travelling and not a picky eater. The only mystery is how is his tolerance being next to me 24/7 lol. Most of the places we go, things we do, shopping we do are my idea and i asked if he would like it as well, which most of the time he says up to you hehe. I also learned a lot about myself during the trip since its my first time travelling with someone of this nature of relationship lol. For eating, i only eat at an upscaled place once, a japanese restaurant and he was about to order expensive sashimi but he always show it to me first asking my opinion. I show him an alternative, since i also wanted to order few more dishes to share and he oblige. So yes, being upfront and forward works. I still end up spending the same price of what he wouldve ordered but instead of him getting one expensive dish, we get multiple equally or even better tasted dishes to share between us two. Shopping was done on the last day, not the first day like OP, more like a reward for him being a good company. And even then, he waited for me to suggest what shop/items/price he can choose. He is also aware of the prices of the items compared to bangkok price and says its often cheaper here. Nothing beats having a quasi boyfriend all the time where u can have access to his hand, body, thigh, chest (and more in the room) anytime of the day when u feel horny haha. So id repeat it definitely but only if chemistry was there and ive at least done LT few times with him already, during which we already learned whats each other likes and dislikes. DivineMadman, vinapu, Boy69 and 1 other 4 Quote
Popular Post ichigo Posted October 22, 2019 Author Popular Post Posted October 22, 2019 Loving all of your replies to my original post! Will reply soon, but in the meantime.. Day 3: One of the places that I wanted to visit whilst I was in Bangkok was the new IconSiam, so I decided today would be the day for it. Caught the BTS to Saphan Taksin, and hopped on the free IconSiam river shuttle. The trip didn't take long at all and it was a nice boat ride on the river. Arrived and was quite impressed at how massive it was. The first time I went to Siam Paragon I thought that was pretty impressive, but this place just takes the cake. I always marvel at how they get the cars into the dealerships on the upper floors. Wandered around for a while, exploring each floor, before having some lunch at a Korean restaurant near the top floor. I remember in one of @vinapu's trip reports he mentioned an outside terrace outside the apple store, so after finding the apple store, walked through it and went outside and it was quite a nice view of the river and the city. I really do like a nice view. Continued to wander around and bought some clothes for myself that were on sale (also saw maybe a couple of you guys shopping with your Thai boyfriends), eventually got bored so I got the river shuttle back to Saphan Taksin, got on the BTS, somehow managed to go in the wrong direction, got off the train and on another and went to Sala Daeng because my feet hurt and I wanted another foot massage. I was going to go back to Rapee but I walked up and down the street and it was like it disappeared because I couldn't find it. Maybe I was just being blind or not looking hard enough, but anyway, I kept on walking down and came across Nakarat and just as well because the guys outside were quite nice looking. I ended up getting a 1 hour foot massage with the guy who accosted me (his name was bee I think). Walked up the million steps to the 3rd floor, and it was quite nice as I was the only one in the foot massage area. It was mid-afternoon after all. I did see a few guys come in and out. The foot massage was really good, he was quite strong, massage was 250 baht, paid the lady at the counter with a 500 and gave bee the change. I told him I would come back (but turns out that I didn't unfortunately). Couldn't be bothered walking back so I took the BTS to the next stop to Chong Nonsi to my hotel. Later in the evening I walked down the street and ate some kale and crispy pork at some random restaurant, after which I felt tired so I didn't bother going out. Day 4: Today I went across the road to King Power Mahanakhon and omg it was amazing. So I paid 689 baht entry fee (apparently cheaper on weekdays, and I saw some cheaper online promotions too), found out I couldn't bring my bottle of water up (bear that in mind for if you visit), went through the X-ray and into an elevator which was super fast and displayed some nice projections on the walls as it was going up. Off the elevator at the 74th floor which was the 360-degree indoor observation area which you could see all of Bangkok from every window. Every time I went to a different window it was like I was looking at something new. Before going up to the 78th floor, the staff gave me some cloth covers to put over my shoes, and a soft bag to put my bag in. Can't remember if I went up the stairs or the lift at the 78th floor, but when I got there, wow. The view was spectacular. Spent a lot of time just looking out at Bangkok. Eventually made it to the glass panel (once the crowd died down a little), and it was so cool. Since I went there by myself, I was a little worried about where I would leave my belongings as they don't provide any lockers or anything, but the soft blue bag that they gave me I could take onto the glass. I had one of the staff members take some photos of me. Just looking down 78 floors below was really something. I would've stayed on the glass a bit longer, but everyone had to get off as they needed to clean the glass. Highly recommended experience. When I left Mahanakhon I walked to Baantewa. I had a really good experience when I visited 3 years ago, so I was hoping for another good time. When I got there I had to go up the stairs (unlike when I visited 3 years ago I just went in the front door), and there were only 2 guys available. They were both cute so I just randomly selected one, and off we went. Showered alone at first, and the massage was okay. His clothes eventually came off, but afters was just a handjob. Last time I was offered the full service, but not today so it seems. Yeah I'm sure I could've communicated better what I wanted, but as I mentioned before, I just kinda go with the flow and see what happens. I mean, a handjob is better than no handjob I guess! Paid the 700 baht for the massage, and the 1000 minimum tip. Had a meal at Alphabet Cafe and Bar near my hotel, and later on another meal at Beef and Shake (also near my hotel). Didn't venture out again (as I was tired.. this becomes a pattern..) Will7272, vinapu, Tintinx and 2 others 4 1 Quote
ichigo Posted October 22, 2019 Author Posted October 22, 2019 5 hours ago, Boy69 said: It's really depends on the chemistry between you two. Absolutely agree. 4 hours ago, DivineMadman said: I think that real-time communication is the first most important, second most important and third most important thing to making it work. I do agree, and I will admit that this is probably an area I could probably improve upon just so that we are on the same page really. I mean, yeah sometimes the stars align and things can happen organically, but communication definitely is important too. 1 hour ago, spoon said: Definitely chemistry is important. Yes! It was only my 3rd trip to Thailand, so I feel as though I'm slightly inexperienced with all of this, but I am learning a lot from you guys here in the forum! I'm just exploring what is not as easily accessible in my home country, and just want to have a good time, you know? Thailand is beautiful and I do want to come back soon. More to come soon. Boy69 and Will7272 1 1 Quote
vinapu Posted October 22, 2019 Posted October 22, 2019 5 hours ago, Boy69 said: The boy told you how excited he is to see you and will meet you at the airport but then came 2 warning signs : 1.He didn't come to meet you at the airport and sent you a message that he is sleeping ! all that messaging back and forth seems to do more harm than good as it gives an opportunity for excuses and huge wastage of time. I tell them be here at that time and it seems to be working very well. Few times they missed their time I was gone and found new opportunities ie. my money went somewhere else. I know lesson was learned. I'd take that absence as warning sign but still would give him a chance but whole phone thing showed clearly he is not interested and I'd cut it out very fast, but as OP noticed , lesson learned ichigo 1 Quote
vinapu Posted October 22, 2019 Posted October 22, 2019 4 hours ago, DivineMadman said: ......traveling and spending time with my guy-of-the-moment. I encourage people to try it if they think they might enjoy it. It may not be for everyone - and not everyone is right for it - but it can be a wonderful experience. I think that real-time communication is the first most important, second most important and third most important thing to making it work. ..... Be clear, be double clear, ....... And raise issues quickly. golden words ichigo 1 Quote
vinapu Posted October 22, 2019 Posted October 22, 2019 1 hour ago, spoon said: Nothing beats having a quasi boyfriend all the time where u can have access to his hand, body, thigh, chest (and more in the room) anytime of the day when u feel horny haha another golden words in short about QBF experience - try it, communicate issues very early and if it doesn't work , cut it off fast ichigo 1 Quote
vinapu Posted October 22, 2019 Posted October 22, 2019 54 minutes ago, ichigo said: I told him I would come back (but turns out that I didn't unfortunately). Couldn't be bothered walking back so I took the BTS to the next stop to Chong Nonsi to my hotel. ....... I felt tired so I didn't bother going out. 1. try to avoid making such commitments as next time you will be walking by guy may expect that you keep your word 2. climbing all those stairs was probably more strenuous than just walking to your hotel , no wonder you have foot problem with lack of exercise 3. that's cardinal sin, not bothering to go out . Where's bother ? two days in row - you become serial sinner, watch out ! ichigo 1 Quote
ichigo Posted October 22, 2019 Author Posted October 22, 2019 2 hours ago, vinapu said: 2. climbing all those stairs was probably more strenuous than just walking to your hotel , no wonder you have foot problem with lack of exercise 2 hours ago, vinapu said: two days in row - you become serial sinner, watch out ! So I seemed to get tired quite a lot during this trip, and you are totally right - my current lack of exercise (and probably poor diet) contributes a lot to this. I really do admire you guys who can fit so much in a single day, where I literally do one activity then have to rest for ages! But I'll definitely be working on this so that I can get more out of my next trip. Quote
Boy69 Posted October 22, 2019 Posted October 22, 2019 5 hours ago, ichigo said: do agree, and I will admit that this is probably an area I could probably improve upon just so that we are on the same page really. I mean, yeah sometimes the stars align and things can happen organically, but communication definitely is important too. I don't think you made any wrong with the boy as Vinapu advised it didn't work with him and it was better to cut it off fast . Chemistry is not something you can improve it's just an outcome with a certain boy sometimes there is a chemistry but usually not because 24/7 with a boy based solely on money without a real chemistry can not work unless the boy is very professional and experienced with such situations as spoon described his experience. From my experience in Thailand most of the boys do ST only, some will agree to LT overnight only and only very few will do 24/7 more than one night the ones who agree to are because : 1. He really likes you and have expcatations for more serious relationship. 2. The boy is desperate for money and will do everything to secure more money than he can do on ST. 3. The boy wants take a break from the bar / his job so long paid vacation with a client is appealing to him. 4. The client is very rich so the boy will jump on the opportunity to make LT with healthy client. 5. The boy is very experienced and professional and knows how to behave 24/7 with a client and extract the benefits of this situation. ichigo and ggobkk 2 Quote
Popular Post ichigo Posted October 25, 2019 Author Popular Post Posted October 25, 2019 Day 5: Caught the BTS to Asok and had a wander around Terminal 21. Ended up buying some jeans, shorts, and shirts from H&M and had a cheap lunch at the food court, although the serving sizes were quite small. When I got bored, I went back on the BTS to Sala Daeng and went to Prime Massage. I've heard a lot of good reviews about this place so I decided to give it a try. When I got there, they were quite busy, but it was quite efficiently run. I wanted to get a 1 hour foot/1 hour Thai massage, but the lady at the counter said if I got a 30 min foot/1 hour Thai then I wouldn't have to wait, and could get started straight away. So I went with that. 450 baht. My guy was a cutie, and quite smiley as well. Foot massage was good, and the Thai massage was amazing - out of all the Thai massages I've had in my life, I don't think I've ever been contorted into so many positions. He was really strong and worked hard, so I tipped him 300 baht. Since I was quite impressed, I made an appointment for the following day with the same guy for a 1 hour foot/1 hour Thai. On the way back to the BTS station I took a detour and walked through the Patpong night market (it wasn't quite night yet so they were still setting up), and then back down the street that some of the bars are on (Screwboys, Dreamboy Paradiso etc). I also walked past so many massage places. I just want to try them all out! Day 6: Went to MBK to have a bit of a look, nothing too spectacular there, lots of stalls like a market. I had some lunch and bought a pencil case. Afterwards I went back to Prime for my appointment, got there a little earlier and was able to start straight away. My massage guy looked like he got a fresh haircut too. If I thought yesterday was good, today was even better and he was using some moves that he didn't use yesterday. Pretty legit massage, although he came in contact with my 'area' a few times, whether accidental or deliberate, I didn't mind. Tipped him 500 baht as he worked really hard over the 2 hours he was with me. Then I was thinking, if these guys work this hard all day for hours and hours, they must get really sore.. or maybe during their training they learn how to massage without hurting themselves? Later in the evening I went for a drink (and dinner) at heaven rooftop bar. It's in the same building as Arena and you have enter through a spa (like heaven spa or something) and take the elevator up to the top. It was quite a nice atmosphere with some live music. A nice place to take your guy. I ended up messaging J (from the beginning of my trip) because I wanted to give him another chance so I asked if he wanted to spend the night, and he said yes and would meet me later on, so after dinner I went back, had a shower etc, and he messaged me again saying that he forgot his mum was visiting and couldn't come. Never mind, I kinda knew that something like this would happen! Day 7: So today was my last day. I decided to move hotels as my flight was tomorrow and I didn't want to travel on the BTS during rush hour with my suitcase (plus I wasn't super into my current hotel). I ended up booking a room at Sukhon which is literally right outside the Phaya Thai BTS station. It's a relatively new hotel (opened last year I think), and it was clean and neat. I was on the 5th floor (top floor) and had views of the BTS station lol. Ganymede is quite close by so I decided to pay a visit. There were about 6 guys there on arrival and I chose a slightly muscular one (not sure why, as I'm more into the twinky types), but I did like his face. Showered alone down the corridor, went back to the room and the guy came in after a while. Massage was okay, was offered sex and asked him to f*ck me but he had trouble staying hard. Oh well, a handjob it was. Paid the 700 baht massage fee and minimum 1000 baht. Better luck next time I guess! Not that many options in terms of food around the Phaya Thai area but I found a relatively empty restaurant and had some curry chicken noodles. Day 8: The hotel provided a choice of American or Thai breakfast and I got the Thai option and it was quite delicious. Shortly afterwards, I walked to the airport link station (so close) and finished my time in Bangkok (I would then go to spend some time in Singapore then Bali). So all in all my trip was okay, I could have done a lot more (I just got really complacent and lazy), but I learn more every time I come here. I think for next time I'll stick to a bit of an itinerary so I can get stuff done, and in the meantime work on my health a little bit so that when I actually arrive, I'm not so tired all the time. I did get some offers from forum members to meet up, but I didn't end up arranging anything - so apologies and perhaps next time! I also didn't manage to go to any bars, to be honest I'm a little nervous, but I guess once I do it, it'll be easier and I won't be so scared! I have quite a bit of Thai baht left so I'm actually thinking about coming back in December and spending some time in Bangkok and Pattaya. I've already been looking at flights. I don't have much on during that time so I thought I may as well.. Thanks for reading, sorry it's not as steamy as other forum members reports, but it's what I can manage for now! xx DivineMadman, vinapu, anddy and 5 others 8 Quote
DivineMadman Posted October 25, 2019 Posted October 25, 2019 28 minutes ago, ichigo said: so I'm actually thinking about coming back in December and spending some time in Bangkok and Pattaya. I've already been looking at flights. I don't have much on during that time so I thought I may as well.. Here's hoping you do! Great report. Tx ichigo 1 Quote
Boy69 Posted October 25, 2019 Posted October 25, 2019 4 hours ago, ichigo said: . I did get some offers from forum members to meet up, but I didn't end up arranging anything - so apologies and perhaps next time! I also didn't manage to go to any bars, to be honest I'm a little nervous, but I guess once I do it, it'll be easier and I won't be so scared! It was better if you did arrange meeting with forum member and go with him to the bars this way you won't be so nervous. ichigo and vinapu 2 Quote
vinapu Posted October 25, 2019 Posted October 25, 2019 thank you for a tip about rooftop bar in Silom Plaza, I was in Arena gazillion times and did not know there's roof top bar in the building. I guess this is what happens when one's eyes are foggy from thinking about all those muscled guys there and of what they hide in their undies. After two failed tries I suggest remove J from your mailing list, two chances are enough and don't count on any improvement splinter1949 and ichigo 2 Quote
ichigo Posted October 26, 2019 Author Posted October 26, 2019 14 hours ago, DivineMadman said: Here's hoping you do! Great report. Tx Thank you 11 hours ago, Boy69 said: It was better if you did arrange meeting with forum member and go with him to the bars this way you won't be so nervous. Next time! 6 hours ago, vinapu said: thank you for a tip about rooftop bar in Silom Plaza, I was in Arena gazillion times and did not know there's roof top bar in the building. I guess this is what happens when one's eyes are foggy from thinking about all those muscled guys there and of what they hide in their undies. After two failed tries I suggest remove J from your mailing list, two chances are enough and don't count on any improvement I don't even know how I came across it actually (most probably my endless perusing on google maps), not the highest of rooftop bars, but it was quite nice nonetheless. Regarding J, that ship has sailed! I've learnt my lesson, and chalking it all up to experience. There are plenty more guys in Thailand that I will explore next time! vinapu 1 Quote
ichigo Posted October 31, 2019 Author Posted October 31, 2019 So when I went to Thailand earlier this year in April I thought I wouldn't be back until next year. But then I went in Sept/Oct. When I was there in Sept/Oct I thought that trip would be my final trip of the year. Until I booked flights and accommodation this week. So I will be back in Thailand for the 3rd time this year for a couple of weeks in December (indulgent much?) spending some time in Bangkok and Pattaya (Jomtien).. I'm super excited! DivineMadman, GWMinUS, vinapu and 1 other 4 Quote