Adventures in Bangkok, Pattaya & Hanoi Aug - Sept 19

[alex303]

20 hours ago, vinapu said:

let them have it as beds at home are most likely much less comfortable. one of my boys from last month told me he sleeps on the chair in his room shared with other 2 boys.

Oh its ok really (I'm joking), if I wake up and have been nudged too far over I just slip out of bed and climb back in the other side...most of them sleep very soundly so i'll just leave them to it if I rise first in the morning, best to let them wake up naturally...couple of the Viets can do 8-10 hours easy.

Earlier in the year around Songkran when we had that crazy heat in Thailand they were asking for LT (overnight) rather than ST as knew they could sleep better in a nice climate controlled room and like you...I enjoy their company.

 

[Boy69]

In the past I really liked to do LT with boys even for more than one night with same boy but in my last trip I decided that I will not do it anymore because most of the boys sleep very long hours and wake up very late but I do like to get up early and eat my breakfast and then go to the beach/pool/stroling around act. it was very annoying when they can wake up long after 12 PM so most likely I will no do LT  in the future.

[Nasherich]

23 minutes ago, Boy69 said:

In the past I really liked to do LT with boys even for more than one night with same boy but in my last trip I decided that I will not do it anymore because most of the boys sleep very long hours and wake up very late but I do like to get up early and eat my breakfast and then go to the beach/pool/stroling around act. it was very annoying when they can wake up long after 12 PM so most likely I will no do LT  in the future.

Yes, I feel the same way. I'm always happy to sleep in the afternoon but the mornings I like to be up and about. 

[vinapu]

2 hours ago, alex303 said:

 

Earlier in the year around Songkran when we had that crazy heat in Thailand they were asking for LT (overnight) rather than ST as knew they could sleep better in a nice climate controlled room

great to know although it will be a while before I visit Thailand in April

[vinapu]

1 hour ago, Boy69 said:

..... most of the boys sleep very long hours and wake up very late but I do like to get up early and eat my breakfast and then go to the beach/pool/stroling around act. it was very annoying when they can wake up long after 12 PM 

I'd leave him there and go about my intended  routine as I have no problems leaving guys in the room alone. Only problem I can envision is key card  as we need to leave it in in order to A/c to run when he sleeps.

On another hand I barely can recall such problems and I'm rather early riser. I wake up,  quietly going about morning chores like checking what's new on the forum and almost universally guys are  getting up soon after, I'm sure missing my usual embraces.

What helps possibly is   that my standard time frame of LT is ' till breakfast" , I'm not asking them ' do you go with me  long time?" , I do ask ' do you sleep with me till breakfast?"

[vinapu]

1 hour ago, Nasherich said:

... the mornings I like to be up and about. 

# me too

also afternoons , evenings and at night, it's why one of my guys asked recently ' do you ever sleep?

answer was  ' yes , at home"

[Boy69]

8 hours ago, vinapu said:

What helps possibly is   that my standard time frame of LT is ' till breakfast" , I'm not asking them ' do you go with me  long time?" , I do ask ' do you sleep with me till breakfast?"

We have different interpretation to LT.

for me LT is when the boy agreed

to stay with me couple of days  all day what I call "boyfriend experience" I liked it before to take the boy with me on long vacation basis but I guess when I am getting older I'm becoming less patient / indulgent so no more LT for me but your idea LT "till breakfast" is a good solution which I might consider in my upcoming trip.

[NIrishGuy]

On 10/1/2019 at 12:02 AM, vinapu said:

 Only problem I can envision is key card  as we need to leave it in in order to A/c to run when he sleeps.

A little tip for you if you dont already know it when needing to do that - those key card holders on the wall sometimes dont actually need the actual room KEY card inserted but just any old piece of card, even roughly cut to the right size and popped in, will do just fine.  Ha I dont recommend using a credit card perhaps for obvious reasons as if used it's more than when you return the boy will have woken up and both he and your card will be long gone of course lol,  but I usually find there's always something in the room that does the trick, even if it's only a tourist leaflet perhaps folded over double or something and that will do the trick.  

Likewise I also find that when room service see you're having to do they then may well LEAVE you a spare blank card in the holder for your use thereafter ( even though technically they shouldn't) - but a small tip I find can go a very long way in that regard too sometimes :-) - but if not, usually any old piece of card will suffice and will ensure that boy wonder can dozed away there at his preferred temperature while you're out for your morning consitutional. 

[vinapu]

3 hours ago, NIrishGuy said:

A little tip for you if you dont already know it when needing to do that - those key card holders on the wall sometimes dont actually need the actual room KEY card inserted but just any old piece of card, even roughly cut to the right size and popped in, will do just fine.  Ha I dont recommend using a credit card perhaps.....

great advice , I will try my transit card next time  just to see if that works. 

Certainly it will not work  at Nantra Silom, tried credit card against your advice ( no boy in the room , just me ) 

[alex303]

For me LT is usually overnight and if its someone new to me I always just say 'overnight'...so when they wake up and want to (eventually) depart...that's it over.

Some sleep till 9am

Some sleep till 1pm

Some sleep till 4pm !!! (but that was after a very heavy night at the disco)

My regulars will just prowl around the condo usually watching TV or borrowing my tablet till the afternoon sometimes (up to them)...unless I have another 'guest' due

[Boy69]

I guess LT is very flexible definition.

I remember many years ago when a boy asked me if we can do LT and I agreed to my astonishment the next day he showed up at my condo with all his stuff and left his rented room ,to my horror he understood that I allegedly agreed to be his boyfriend!

It took me almost a week to get rid of him and he eventually left with tears. Very awkward situation.

[Nasherich]

2 hours ago, Boy69 said:

...to my horror he understood that I allegedly agreed to be his boyfriend!

It took me almost a week to get rid of him and he eventually left with tears. Very awkward situation.

Yes I had a similar experience once. No idea how he made the leap to that belief but he did, and presenting the reality of the situation was very hard Indeed.

[vinapu]

4 hours ago, Boy69 said:

 

I remember many years ago when a boy asked me if we can do LT and I agreed to my astonishment the next day he showed up at my condo with all his stuff.....

now you know why I say explicitly  ' sleep with me till breakfast", fortunately so far every  one understood that ' breakfast' means ' breakfast next morning', not ' breakfast next Monday" 

[spoon]

Ive yet to experience boy reluctant to leave room, and im not sure if i am consistent but i usually offer the guy breakfast with me when offing them. Some boys will ask what ill do after breakfast, and sometimes offer themselves to be my company for that activities, which then up to me to say yes to the proposal or not. On one ocassion, took a guy on ST, mid afternoon, but i enjoyed him so much i proposed him to stay with me 3 hour more for additional tips, and seeing him undressing once again is definitely worth the while lol.

[vinapu]

1 hour ago, spoon said:

. On one ocassion, took a guy on ST, mid afternoon, but i enjoyed him so much i proposed him to stay with me 3 hour more for additional tips, and seeing him undressing once again is definitely worth the while lol.

I have feeling I know what guy you are talking about, LOL

[Travellerdave]

I like to keep fit and fight the flab by jogging which I try to maintain whilst in Pattaya, although that is not easy in the tropical climate. The best time to do this is at dawn when it’s cooler and there are fewer people on the paths. This creates a pleasant difficulty when I’ve a boy in my bed overnight (usually). I try to explain to him that I will be getting up early but returning to the room after about an hour but this is difficult to put across. However quite often I get the jog done and on returning and after a shower I have a great interval of sex and fun before breakfast at 10 to 11.  The “card trick” comes in useful. Sometimes the boy is not conscious that I have left the room - they love to sleep only second to food.

[anddy]

On 10/2/2019 at 6:36 AM, NIrishGuy said:

A little tip for you if you dont already know it when needing to do that - those key card holders on the wall sometimes dont actually need the actual room KEY card inserted but just any old piece of card, even roughly cut to the right size and popped in, will do just fine.  Ha I dont recommend using a credit card perhaps for obvious reasons as if used it's more than when you return the boy will have woken up and both he and your card will be long gone of course lol,  but I usually find there's always something in the room that does the trick, even if it's only a tourist leaflet perhaps folded over double or something and that will do the trick.  

Likewise I also find that when room service see you're having to do they then may well LEAVE you a spare blank card in the holder for your use thereafter ( even though technically they shouldn't) - but a small tip I find can go a very long way in that regard too sometimes :-) - but if not, usually any old piece of card will suffice and will ensure that boy wonder can dozed away there at his preferred temperature while you're out for your morning consitutional. 

uhm well the easiest and guaranteed to be effective way is to simply as for two room keys when checking in. When booking a double room (which most are anyway) it is (or should be) standard procedure (at least to me) to issue two keys

[NIrishGuy]

21 hours ago, anddy said:

uhm well the easiest and guaranteed to be effective way is to simply as for two room keys when checking in. 

Actually in this case I could do with THREE keys ( hence on being given two as you say I then usually resort to the piece of card trick).

This being as I normally put own my key card in my wallet, then give the other card to my guest ( if they're deserving of such a thing) as that saves them bothering me and me having to get up and go to the door each and every time they nip out for a smoke or whatever - which is of course usually right in the middle of me showering or napping.

This means we then can both come and go to the room as we please ( this I should say is when with with my "real" BF rather than some random boy de jour). Then once we both have our own keys we tend to leave that third card in the holder to ensure that the room power sockets remain on ( to charge his seemingly ever growing list of devices that go everywhere with us) and if we're out for just a short while it means we can keep the aircon on too if we wish so that the room is nice and chilled on our return - terribly wasteful I know (but I dont care ..... :-)

[alex303]

Day 12 (BKK)

It was late morning when I crawled out of my ‘pit’ and finished packing whilst ‘K’ slept a bit more, taxi arrived around 1pm and whisked me back up to BKK after some nice goodbye hugs from ‘K’ and requests not to forget him.  Halfway to BKK the heavens opened which slowed progress a bit but I’d rather get there in one piece than in the back of an Ambulance!  For my last 3 nights I’d booked The Bandara Suites as a safe bet plus fairly close to Silom.  Suites are excellent value and great size @ 55sqm, kitchenette & separate bedroom means they feel more like a serviced condo to me.

I summarily rejected the first suite they offered me as wrong style sofa, ask for the ‘L Shaped’ ones as better for lounging around on with your partner of choice, they moved me to a higher floor…but next suite had a whiff to the AC.  So after a minor hissy fit & a visit from the apologetic French manager they moved me again to the top floor of the building and same style suite but great views so I settled in.

Shower and quick nap and then it was up and out heading to Freshboys 2, couple of Viets I knew ‘B’ (huge cock) & ‘S’ on stage, the little cute Khmer boy from Day 2 was trying to catch my eye but I was’nt biting. Couple of others including a rather handsome Myanmar guy caught my eye, gorgeous swimmers type bod but the night was young so resisted the serious temptation…dispensed some Tips to ‘S’ & Myanmar guy then headed to Lucky boys.

Luckyboys usual cracking line-up for me, fairly quickly I was spotted by ‘B2’ from stage (my guy from Day 3) and he broke out in a big smile and was visibly bubbly.  My usual Viet mama with her eagle eyes pounced on me and asked me who I wanted…knew I’d been looking at ‘B2’ and I said I was just thinking.  Her reply ‘don’t think too much…just do it & have fun as the boy wants you too’ so called him over and after 5 mins of admired those taught pecs and tanned ‘pocket twink’ style muscles my mind was made up.  Check bin, tips dispensed…informed mama that Paul SF was due the next week and her face lit up with delight!  Then headed for the exit,  asked ‘B2’ where to next and he suggested ‘Ratchada night market’…I’ve taken him to the Khao San road a few times before so think this was another take on it from him.

Good fun night wandering around taking it all in, it’s a bit calmer than the Khao San but still nice place to go hangout for the evening, we headed for some upstairs bar for drinks, left B2 to sort the drinks…now bearing in mind this guy has 2 small beers and goes red / gets drunk (very low tolerance to alcohol) he ordered up 3 big Chang’s from the menu, not from greed but was like a multi-deal type thing (him trying to save me money).  I smiled but to be fair didn’t stop him…the results as could have been safely predicted were interesting!  ‘B2’ went from sober to mau mau in the space of an hour but we got some food and soldiered on, by now his face & shoulders were going red from the beer though…lol.

Back to Silom in a taxi after a while, B2 dozing off in the back semi drunk from Chang and me just chilled out relaxed, headed from Screwboys for a late drink and to say hello to ‘W’ (my guy from Day 1)…my timing was crap though as was show-time but headed for the corner seats by the loos and got chatting to a few boys who came over to say hello to ‘B2’.  Found ‘W’ when I visited the toilet along with half the rest of their guys…quite intense being surrounded by a bevy of hot guys in those striped blue/white pants.  ‘W’ looked damn too with a nice shaved side’s fresh Viet style haircut and rocking his own pocket lightly muscled twink look.  ‘B’ and ‘W’ had a couple of non-alcohol drinks and swapping gossip, probably feeding more info back to the Viet boys CIA (they know everything I’ve concluded over time).  Then we headed back to the condo and enjoyed a nice sexy couple of hours, ‘B’ does not do the magic everything…but what he does he does well and enjoys his fun so a good time was had by all. 

By then was getting on to the early hours so sent him home as know he prefers to sleep in his own bed but still tipped him my full LT rate as we’d started out fairly early that evening and had a great night…off into the early morning went a sleepy / happy Viet boy .

S’ the Viet from Freshboys 2 dropping me notes on messenger…no customer or money for room etc so of course being the good Samaritan I was he was duly invited to come over in the afternoon to discuss world Geo-Politics and other such important matters…I can’t do overnights with ‘S’ as he snores (rather loudly!)…made that mistake once but not again!

Bedtime…alone for me but happy from my days work!

Day 13 (BKK)

Woke up earlier than usual and with a definite case of ‘morning wood’ decided to see if the Apps could offer any solutions to my predicament.  Within 30 minutes was chatting to a Thai boy ‘K’ on Blue’d, freelance MB, very hot guy…did the usual compare notes…Gay = tick, Both = tick

So duly invited over and 1 hour later bang on time he turned up, very cute in person, great English and appeared to be reasonably well travelled, had lived in a few other countries before with previous BF’s.  After a bit of chat he stepped things up a gear and as both already fresh from showers the clothes went flying and OMG the boy had a cock as wide as Thai style cola can, the damn thing nearly gave me lock jaw!  Nice but busy hour followed , ‘K’ was definitely a happy Both / power Bottom type, fairly business like but good fun still.  We both depleted our supplies of Vitamin D and rested from the effort, cleaned up…tipped him ST as agreed plus bit of taxi money and sent him on his way.   What a great way to get the day going…I do love Bangkok!

‘S’ the Viet did a no show but I later found out he was a little sick and had just slept in that day so no problem, boys need their rest.

Headed out early evening and after a quick pit stop for fuel in Foodland met up with Michael in Screwboys, there‘s a mini-report here:-

https://www.gayguides.com/forums/topic/12554-gay-thailand-and-gay-bangkok-report-on-september-2019/?do=findComment&comment=137187

I’ll expand on after I got back to Silom though as ended up in a small beer bar near Screwboys & Freshboys, ‘S’ the Viet was having a beer there with a few Viet pals & called out to me as I walked past , invited me to sit down.  Drinks were cheap @ 100bhat each or 140bhat for waiter so I got a round in for the 4 of us, they just wanted to drink & chill, chat and was a nice easy evening surrounded by some sexy guys.  The beers flowed and another round followed, by then a couple of other Viet boys ‘B’ & ‘B’ from Freshboys upstairs had joined them…the guys were getting mau now and frisky with a few wandering Viet paws much to my delight.  Then I realized it was getting near 1.30am (how did that happen) so messaged ‘W’ in Screwboys to see if he wanted me to come in and off him.  W’ wasn’t picking up his messages so ‘S’ took my phone (to help me) and called him on voice messenger, think told him where I was in Viet and I was duly instructed to wait there.  Good tip…don’t argue with the Viets when they’re busy organizing your off with their pal…lol

Just before 2am came the boys pulled down the steel shutters around the bar but basically just carried on…so now I was in a smallish space with 6 hot Viet guys all lightly dressed with them getting mau, cigarette smoke wafting around…it’s getting warmer too with the shutters down so quite nice / intense atmosphere, suspect if I hadn’t already selected a partner for the rest of the night I’d have had no shortage of choice!   But tbh the boys were just happy chilling and drinking / relaxing after work having fun and really nice to see, way better use of money than gogo bar drinks.  One of the shutters went up for a few moments and ‘W’ stepped in smiling & looking bemused at me drinking with his pals, probably bit worried if I was ‘behaving myself’ as said to me afterwards couldn’t believe how relaxed I was…my reply…yeah cause I was just enjoying it all.  So another round of beers and they were just chattering away amongst themselves and with me.  

Funny as they were kind of ‘probing’ me where they had me cornered…’why do I like Viet boys’ type questions etc but all good natured fun, just curious really.  Think we settled up the bill around 3am and wasn’t earth shattering….maybe around 1600bhat for a few rounds of drinks for 4-6 boys in the middle of Silom , they actually didn’t want drink Tips (their words) as was kind of their idea…but I tipped waiter & ‘S’ anyway which got a nice thank you for making a happy time with his friends from ‘S’ he apologized for not coming to see me earlier that day and whispered quietly he wanted to come over tomorrow.  Think ‘W’ heard him still as he smiled too, but they’re both good friends and no jealousy so all good.

Bailed out with ‘W’ and headed back to Bandara, just lolled around on the sofa for a while then nice long hot / soapy shower together, it’s like ‘playtime’ with those guys when you add in hot water and shower gel, nice session getting thoroughly reacquainted afterwards then just dozed off, me with a couple of Viet arms and paws firmly wrapped around me…probably making sure I didn’t try escape to the beer bar again!

[alex303]

Couple of night time pics from The Bandara Suites on the upper floors (think was 24th)

[ggobkk]

Bandara Suites is a favorite of mine. Pricing is in The Raya range.  Slightly longer walk to soi 4 and Patpong 2.  Hotel has a pool and a jacuzzi larger than some hotl pools.

[alex303]

12 hours ago, ggobkk said:

Bandara Suites is a favorite of mine. Pricing is in The Raya range.  Slightly longer walk to soi 4 and Patpong 2.  Hotel has a pool and a jacuzzi larger than some hotl pools.

I really like that hotel too, nice rooms, friendly staff & good location...I think they are slowly trying to refurb it over time

The distance from Silom is just about right for me, helps keep my steps up...usually walk into Sala Daeng in the early evening than taxi home at night

[Jasper]

Is there a washing machine in the kitchen?

[alex303]

3 hours ago, Jasper said:

Is there a washing machine in the kitchen?

No sorry...my suite did not have one, pretty much everything else though as in full size fridge / freezer (not one of those silly mini units), couple of electric rings on the cooker (not that I ever cook in Thailand), Kettle & Expresso / Latte machine etc

If you walk about 7-8 minutes from Bandara to around the back of Central there's a large laundry place that I found there and used, but its like 200bhat min then as much as you want up to a certain weight (was a few Kg) so I used that...just found it on Google maps nearby

[Jasper]

44 minutes ago, alex303 said:

No sorry...my suite did not have one, pretty much everything else though as in full size fridge / freezer (not one of those silly mini units), couple of electric rings on the cooker (not that I ever cook in Thailand), Kettle & Expresso / Latte machine etc

Thank you for answering my questions in details. Much appreciated!