Adventures in Bangkok, Pattaya & Hanoi Aug - Sept 19

[alex303]

Apoligies chaps, struggled a bit with that last update...if a friendly mod can turn off the underlined text (it went mad when I added the pics) I'd be grateful!

[vinapu]

thank you for great next installment, that picture of the dinner made me actually hungry and salivating

[BL8gPt]

I was impressed with the Hanoi Cathedral.

A friend familiar with Vietnam told me tonight that 10% of Population are Christians. 

[vinapu]

4 hours ago, BL8gPt said:

I was impressed with the Hanoi Cathedral.

A friend familiar with Vietnam told me tonight that 10% of Population are Christians. 

when you travel through parts of the North you may be excused for thinking you are in Europe as almost every village sports church tower

[Boy69]

10 hours ago, BL8gPt said:

I was impressed with the Hanoi Cathedral.

A friend familiar with Vietnam told me tonight that 10% of Population are Christians. 

It's logical since Vietnam was part of the French colonial many years.

[alex303]

On ‎9‎/‎23‎/‎2019 at 1:53 AM, vinapu said:

thank you for great next installment, that picture of the dinner made me actually hungry and salivating

Must admit it was a really nice dinner, not the sort of place I'd normally visit...bit too HISO (I'm a great fan of street food), but the guys chose well

[alex303]

Yes I think a lot of the North is Catholic from what I've seen / heard and they're very passionate about their religion too, took the ex BF to the Khao San rd one time and he bought a large picture of the Pope...then proceeded (to my slight horror) to set it up on a bedside table!  I had to hide it when he wasn't looking as felt like the dear Pontif was watching me as I was having my wicked way with him!

Bless me father for I have sinned...

[Guest]

On 9/20/2019 at 10:07 PM, alex303 said:

Awesome view from the window........

[18past19]

1 hour ago, z909 said:

Awesome view from the window........

I didn't even notice that there's a window.

[alex303]

Aye...B2 certainly does photo well!

Its been my observation after years of thorough & detailed research that Viets generally have more shapely butts than their Thai cousins too, bit more of a 'bubble'

[vinapu]

6 hours ago, alex303 said:

Aye...B2 certainly does photo well!

Its been my observation after years of thorough & detailed research that Viets generally have more shapely butts than their Thai cousins too, bit more of a 'bubble'

it must be that diet of French style baguettes

[alex303]

To be fair I think you've got a point there as there's more wheat in their diet as well as Rice vs. say Thai.  If you look when they start hitting the gym they get toned / built / six packs really quickly too.

Banh Mi shops & stalls on every street corner...we went for a walk and found a street with a batch of serious French Patisserie shops too (not so good for the figure...but very nice), its like they're taken the bits of French culture they liked and adopted it as their own.

[Guest]

7 hours ago, vinapu said:

it must be that diet of French style baguettes

For the worst examples, it takes so much effort to chew through a baguette that throwing it away is tempting.  However, I doubt that is the reason......

Diet probably does have a lot to do with it.     

If we consider the evolution of countries:

1  Many of them start off as poor agricultural economies, with manual labour, traditional food and perhaps only just enough food.   Many of the people may walk or cycle.

2  They evolve to the point where many people are not doing manual jobs, have the choice of much affordable food and all sorts of evil new dietary options arrive, such as burgers, sugary drinks and so on.    Also, they have motorcycles or even cars, so walking becomes optional.

Thailand has evolved much further down the path, with all sorts of unhealthy diet options and we frequently see people travelling via scooter for even the shortest trips, when they would benefit from walking.

The Vietnam boys probably have the benefit of eating more appropriately (ie less) and getting more exercise.     That was definitely the case with the lad I had in Indra massage earlier this year.   The vast majority of the people in Vietnam are probably not eating the sort of junk food shown in the previous post.  [My younger sibling likes that kind of product and is about 40% heavier than me, despite coming from the same gene pool]

Also, I believe they have 2 years military service in Vietnam.    So that's probably a higher participation rate, a longer stint and I would bet that it's a much more serious effort in Vietnam, as that's the country that managed to fight off the US and China within my lifetime.  

 

[vinapu]

4 hours ago, z909 said:

  The vast majority of the people in Vietnam are probably not eating the sort of junk food shown in the previous post. 

You calling that delicious pastries  'junk food',?

go to confession now and repent for your sin by having well fried pork schnitzel with Swiss cheese topping

[vinapu]

5 hours ago, alex303 said:

 

Banh Mi shops & stalls on every street corner...we went for a walk and found a street with a batch of serious French Patisserie shops too (not so good for the figure...but very nice), its like they're taken the bits of French culture they liked and adopted it as their own.

 

 

as some say British left in their colonies infrastructure but French left the cuisine, 

I'm salivating just by looking at those delicious/ z909 , did you hear that? , LOL / pastries

[alex303]

555 yes that's a very true statement, high end Pattisserie like that is a bit of an art form really, I'd imagine a fair bit of love went into producing that lot

B2 indulged himself but he has a washboard stomach and a 6 pack any guy would be proud of plus was on holiday

[alex303]

Day 11 (Hanoi & Pattaya)

We both woke late morning as suitably exhausted from the previous night’s exertions, I’d booked myself on the afternoon flight from Hanoi to Bangkok so didn’t have to rush around early and get stressed (been there before & it usually creates rows).  Nice just relaxing on the bed chatting, no great rush to do anything.  B2 then declares he’s hungry ‘little bit’ which as we all know translates as:- ‘feed me quick before I turn into a hungry monster’  so off to the local restaurant in our street for a couple of bowls of steaming Pho and more of those amazing Hanoi spring rolls to round off our stay.  By now B2 with his gregarious / fun personality had charmed the waitress plus the owner’s wife so they were all chatting away in Viet like long lost friends.

Someone did ask B2 who I was the other night when we went to get massages and he told me afterwards he told the lady masseur I was his BF (not technically true as that would have been his brother at one time out of the pair of them).   Nice though that he described it that way and had the will power to say it, not easy in his country.

He ordered up another one of his Avocado shakes (new one on me), odd looking concoction…but did taste delicious.  He rang the company who were picking him up in their mini-van route and turned out with the rain 2 nights before part of the road between Ha-Tinh and Hanoi had been flooded so no mini-van’s today.  He said no problem and later he’d go visit a Viet friend in hospital and stay overnight in a cheap local hotel he’d used previously when waiting for me to arrive.

Tidied up the condo and finished our packing, I’d sorted him out his Tips for his time as my guide the night before plus added in another lump for being good fun and covered hotel first night & bus’s to / from Hanoi so he was very happy.  He passed on some good wishes from his papa who it turns out wants me to visit Ha-Tinh next time (that should get a ‘reaction’ from my ex…lol), we kissed (he knows how to kiss well for a Viet) & hugged in the condo and then headed out for the lift, street and my waiting taxi at the end of the street.  Gave B2 a last wave and then I was headed to the airport, nice steady trail of messages from him, seemed genuinely grateful that I’d made the effort to come.

Airport was a relaxed / efficient affair again, it’s reasonably modern and big but functions more smoothly than some London airports I could mention.  This time I just took my one big bag on as hand luggage to avoid the ‘tax’ Vietnam airlines charge you (1500-2000 per bag / per journey in the hold) as noticed last time most people doing the same.  Slung my small bag over my back and they said nothing at check-in.  Only minor drama was I pulled all my toiletries out before hand for the X-ray and to be fair they let all thru except I forgot about 1 can of compressed air type deodorant.  Some ‘Superdry’ type smelly that B2 loved funnily enough (said he wanted to ‘eat me’ every time I used it so I guess the smell must appeal to Viets…mental note to buy a SHIT load more when I get home).  Anyway that was the only thing that got tossed in the bin by a very apologetic security type. 

A mildly suspicious peer at my passport by the immigration guy who asked how many days I’d been in country (test question of course…as he knew from the incoming stamp already), but he got the right answer so on I skipped.

Departures by the gates again were a nice affair, lots of little modern café type setups (great food and very reasonably priced…unlike the extortionate piss takes that is Heathrow Terminal 2!).  My section (by my gates) looked out over the Apron tarmac so nice views of jets wheeling too & fro.  I foolishly had one last Viet coffee and the damn thing nearly blew my head off….Jesus! they do know how to make an intense coffee in the north…but was a fitting goodbye to this quiet but intense country.

Flight was bang on time both take-off and landing, bagged an exit seat again so comfy, I’d pre-booked a taxi with a company I knew in sin city and he was waiting for me at Gate 5 when I came thru arrivals, must admit carrying on all your bags is great for a short flight as I was less than 30 minutes from landing to in the taxi speeding towards Pattaya.

My main reason for heading back, was there were a couple of guys I’d promised to see plus catch up with ColmX for a couple days.  Arrived back at the same condo complex as last time but this time got a much better condo, probably the best I’ve ever stayed in there so off to good start!  After a powernap and early evening and the rain started up so hooked up with ColmX and we headed to Boyztown both clutching brollies (very manly…lol), I think did the rounds of Boyztown to check out the local offerings.  For me personally…from where I’d just come from…this was a bit depressing tbh, Toyboys was quiet and only needed some elevator music to complete the feeling of boredom.

Cupidol bit more interesting but I was actually hunting for a cute Laos boy whom I’d spotted there on my previous last night in Patts (had the most outrageous cruisy ‘come to bed’ eyes that had both myself and ColmX handing over red notes the previous occasion as fast as we could get them out of our wallets).  But of course…’boy not work tonight’ came the dreaded reply.  No matter I had his Hornet so messaged him up, hoping for a reply later.  ColmX headed off to see Vessey and I decided to go find ‘K’ in X-Boys (my 50/50 Viet/Thai boy) from last time.  ‘K’ was there but basically could not be persuaded to do the magic ‘everything’ that night (he’s more Top) so having a minor grump/sulk I headed off and left him to it.

Ended up in Silapin Issan with Colm-X again which was half full and seemed to be a couple of Ladyboy’s birthdays going on, tried to get into the vibe but just was not in the mood despite the best attempts of several friends.  Think I was just having a sulk over my plans being thwarted for 2 guys I was interested in, so in true child-like manner I said goodnight then bailed out and headed back to the condo….ALONE (shock horror!).

A quick hunt of the Apps threw up nothing that gave me ‘stirrings’ but I threw a few messages out to a couple of my regulars and then dozed off on the very comfy bed….ALONE (double shock horror / disgust).

Day 11 (Pattaya)

Woke up early and feeling rested after a quiet night I promptly fired up the Apps and low & behold the cute Laos boy had replied to my messages.  I think early afternoon we exchanged a few more and once the basics were sorted out (he’s a Bottom etc) he wanted to come over after he finished his studies in the afternoon.

Turned out he was studying every day how to cut / style hair (50K course over 5 months) and some basic beauty type treatments in Pattaya during the daytime and then working massage in the evenings or sometimes Cupidol to fund it all.  Smart lad..actually using his money to do something that will give him a real job down the line.

N the Laos boy came over mid-afternoon, as cute as I remembered from seeing him on stage, very friendly lad with great English, bit of chat to & fro…then he asked to use the shower so we were game on.  Great kisser and delightfully lithe swimmers type body, typically for Laos quite sensual in bed (climbing all over me) and was defo more of a ‘Power Bottom’ (makes me wonder what the Viets would be like if they were all Buddhists tbh…mad for it one suspects!).  We spent another hour testing out the various positions and doing our best to check the integrity of the condo’s furniture, then both collapsed onto the bed in a sweaty pile with streaks of astro-glide here and there from our efforts.  Got another lovely long kiss off him and we both headed to the showers to clean up. 

Chatted a bit afterwards and he asked if he could see me again tomorrow but I said I thought I was headed back to BKK but we’d see what happens.  Off he headed a happy Laos boy with a healthy ST tip in his back pocket.

After that needed another nap to get myself back together….woke up a couple of hours later to some messages in LINE from a Thai boy in Sunnee that I’d chatted to before.  Turned out the lad worked Nice boys which is not normally my first port of call when hunting for an off but he had a nice bod and seemed polite enough so called him over.

He arrived the condo on time, but where the Laos boy before had been calm and very sexy…this guys was more hectic and bit hyper, another game obsessed phone addict too!  Bit of polite chit / chat in between him playing his video game and then he excused himself to go toilet / shower….then followed an odd 20 minutes where I could just hear the ‘dings & dongs’ from his game coming from the bathroom but a distinct lack of running water!  Went in to see what was going on and the boys sat there on the damn loo playing his game, I politely told him to get busy and 5 minutes later heard loo flushing, followed by the joyous sounds of the bum gun and then a running shower.

After this I was mildly irritated though so showered fairly swiftly myself and decided to turn it into a ‘fuck & go’ type session,  to be fair the guy delivered all that was promised in the bedroom but it just felt a bit ‘off key’ to me but funnily enough he did enjoy getting fucked and seemed to turn from a str8’ish type boy into yet another power bottom.

We both cleaned up, and I tipped him all as agreed up front but I was kinda half glad to wrap the encounter up, just felt a bit edgy…not my usual type of off.

Mid evening by then so I headed out and caught up with ColmX in boyztown and then after mulling it over decided to go see ‘K’ in XBoys again, I didn’t really want to leave it on the note I’d done last night (not my way).  We had a chat with his mamasan keeping an eye on things as she knew I wasn’t happy the night before.  I basically said…look don’t worry about Bottoming (as I’d had 2 already that day) but would be good if you stayed over-night as I’m checking out the next morning.  K has the time old issue of being custodian of the room key for him and pal, now mama picked up on this at some point and spoke to him in machine gun style Thai (you know when they’re telling them to do something).  K went pulled his top & trousers on, asked me to wait X-Boys for 5 mins whilst he shot out.  Me bit confused said ok then Mama explained she’d told him to go give his room key to his pal to ensure no issues tonight….who says mamasan’s can’t be useful…lol

Once he came back and nodded all was good I cleared the bill tipped mama and we headed off to meet up with Colm-X, Vessey and their respective entourages (about 9+ people in total!) near the entrance to Walking street.  Think we ended up in Silapin Issan and to be fair was a much more fun than night before, boys were happy and whiskey flowing.  I was drooling slightly over one of Vessey’s previous off’s from Nice boys who turned up also…to be fair was a gorgeous looker…now why couldn’t I have found him this afternoon I wondered….lol.

K was getting sleepy so we headed home after a few hours and proceeded to re-discover each other bodies and leave some vitamin D deposits on them.  He’s just a sexy ‘nice’ Thai boy next door type, not rocket fuel filled or mad for it like some, just a genuinely ‘nice boy’ and frankly there’s a lot to be said for that sometimes.

Had a nice shower together, the condo has a big walk-in type that you could probably organize a small orgy in if you so choose, lathering him up was pretty special too and nice way to wind up my stay in Pattaya, we both dozed after that and slept peacefully till the morning.

[vinapu]

Great report, thank you for time and effort of putting it together along with fantastic pictures of Vietnamese  food including those delicious  and HEALTHY pastries.

If your Cupidol Lao boy  works also as  masseur at Royal House , I think I know whom you are talking about , sweet   guy indeed.

Disease of boys playing games on , alter all paid by us time , needs to be fought politely and firmly. I do the same and pay boy agreed tip but next time he would be looking for an off from me I'd tell him in plain language , no , because I don't want you to play games like last time or if I was keen of having him again , I'd tell him to leave phone on the bed when leaving it.

I regret I did not do it to one of my offs last trip caught watching movie in the toilet on his phone while I was left to fend off ghosts myself.

It can be done as Z , my 4 times LT off proved, while  he left bed from time to time , his phone never did. Who said today's youth don't have work ethic ? It's our duty to show them what it is .

[alex303]

9 hours ago, vinapu said:

Great report, thank you for time and effort of putting it together along with fantastic pictures of Vietnamese  food including those delicious  and HEALTHY pastries.

If your Cupidol Lao boy  works also as  masseur at Royal House , I think I know whom you are talking about , sweet   guy indeed.

Disease of boys playing games on , alter all paid by us time , needs to be fought politely and firmly. I do the same and pay boy agreed tip but next time he would be looking for an off from me I'd tell him in plain language , no , because I don't want you to play games like last time or if I was keen of having him again , I'd tell him to leave phone on the bed when leaving it.

I regret I did not do it to one of my offs last trip caught watching movie in the toilet on his phone while I was left to fend off ghosts myself.

It can be done as Z , my 4 times LT off proved, while  he left bed from time to time , his phone never did. Who said today's youth don't have work ethic ? It's our duty to show them what it is .

Hey no problem Vinapu, I've just got to try get my last 3 days in BKK drafted up to wrap it up (was hectic but fun)...I'm definitely missing Vietnam in general and hope to be back there before the end of the year.

And yes he just went to far with his phone, it was rude, he's messaged me a few times in LINE since (doesn't seem to quite 'get it') but there will be no re-match that much I can promise.

I think the ones that have been brought up well by their parents leave it in their pockets or wait until your doing something else (just good manners really).

[alex303]

B2 sometimes swaps messages for an hour or so with pals in BKK whilst I'm having snooze, which is fine as I usually wake to find him wrapped around me again).  Think I woke up and went to the loo & found him like that (he's actually sound asleep)...the facial recognition on the phone was keeping it on until I moved it to the bedside...lol

[vinapu]

yummy, yummy, even more than those pastries.

typical to this generation , sleeping with the phone , not boyfriend or girlfriend, LOL

Nothing wrong with guy being on the phone when we are occupied with something else , sleeping not to mention pleasant task of exploring their bodies but locking themselves in bathroom with it is cardinal sin in my eyes

[Boy69]

I had a boy in Patong that his phone was glued to his hand it was very annoying but the young generation don't see anything wrong about it  so we don't have much choice but to accept it. 

[alex303]

He's usually pretty good tbh, if I doze off first he'll chat with his pals in BKK (but usually waits till I'm asleep before he does that) where everyone goes to bed in Hanoi a bit earlier & his former bar-boy pals are still awake.

More often than not I wake up to find a Viet arm, paw or leg draped over me so no complaints from me...biggest problem is usually them 'hogging' the bed...usually I end up with about 1/3rd of it if I'm lucky! lol

[vinapu]

9 hours ago, Boy69 said:

I had a boy in Patong that his phone was glued to his hand it was very annoying but the young generation don't see anything wrong about it  so we don't have much choice but to accept it. 

I don't agree , if we don't like something including  we can tell them that  we don't like it  in no uncertain terms ' do you like your phone or me better ?" for example, works for me but granted , I usually deal with bit older and  better versed in customer service guys.

It the same if they want to smoke  ( cigarettes ,  that's  it) in the room, you tell them no, right.

[vinapu]

7 hours ago, alex303 said:

...biggest problem is usually them 'hogging' the bed...usually I end up with about 1/3rd of it if I'm lucky! lol

let them have it as beds at home are most likely much less comfortable. one of my boys from last month told me he sleeps on the chair in his room shared with other 2 boys.