TotallyOz Posted June 13, 2006 Posted June 13, 2006 I have not had much experience with guys from this part of the world. I have met a few in Pattaya that I thought were sexy and even had a few encounters with them that were quite enjoyable. I had a bad experience with a group of them at Hollywood as the group kept invading my space and were acting like dogs in heat when it came to the ladyboys in our group. As one of them kept hitting on one of the ladyboys who had a boyfriend in the group, the night almost ended in a brawl. This is not what I wanted and was able to maintain the peace. I just wonder why there are so many from that part of the world in Pattaya. I have nothing against them being here but I was under the impression that many move here and stay here. The community seems active which is a good thing. There is one section of town that is filled with hotels and restaurants that cater to them. My question is this, how do so many of them afford to come here at such a young age? So many I have met are much younger than the average farang. I know in Europe that many get 2 months off a year as opposed to the USA vacation of 2 or 3 weeks a year. Does anyone know how long someone from that part of the world gets for vacation each year? If they practice their religion, I know that alcohol is forbidden. Is this similar to Christianity where one can pick which vices one wants? Is sex with women who are not of their religion forbidden? Is sex with other guys forbidden? I apologize if these comments are stupid. It is really my first encounter with a group of guys from this part of the world and I want to try to understand them a bit better. Quote
Guest catawampuscat Posted June 14, 2006 Posted June 14, 2006 The Arabs do seem much younger than the farangs in general, but if you look at the straight farangs, there are large groups of younger straight farangs in Pattaya.. It is a relatively short hop to the Middle East and there are several airlines with good prices..There is a lot of wealth with all the oil and the Arab world is very conservative and boys just want to have fun... Alcohol is banned in most of the Arab world and contact with females is very limited.. If you go by the main Arab areas you might note larger and fatter prostitutes working the streets and also prettier ladyboys , both groups seem to work for most of the guys..One rarely if ever sees the Arab guys in the boy bars, but they can find what they want on Beach Road without being seen, as they usually travel in large groups and it is okay to have a sex party with many guys if there is a girl or two present and it is okay if he looks like a girl but a no no if he looks like a man... Very little interaction between gay older farangs and the Arab visitors, althou I have seen some rest room activity and probably one can find some furtive adventures if one looks for it.. Quote
Guest mauRICE Posted June 22, 2006 Posted June 22, 2006 As I understand it, if these Arabs are Muslim, then no, they are not permitted to consume alcohol. Sex between Muslim men or women is forbidden. Heterosexual sex is only lawful within marriage. On the other hand, there are revisionist interpretations of the Qur'an which suggest that moderate consumption of alcohol that doesn't lead to drunkenness is permissible as one is more likely to sin and cause hardship to oneself and others when drunk. And then are those who posit that the Qur'an is vague on the issue of homosexuality and that it was never really a thrust (no pun intended) of the Prophet's teachings. I have no comments on these interpretations; all I can say is that they have not had much impact on mainstream Islamic scholarship. Of course, theory is one thing, practice is another. Whether one chooses to adhere to the tennets of one's professed faith is ultimately a personal choice. And in the case of Muslims, one has greater freedom to exercise that choice in environments that do not enforce the hudud, the criminal branch of the syariah, that exhaustive body of Islamic law that is traditionally held to be complete and sufficient for the vicissitudes of daily life. Due to the male-dominated tribal culture in the Middle East, it's far easier for men to find and get away with sex with other men. Sex with women is another matter. Marriage to Middle Eastern women, especially Saudi women, is a complicated and expensive affair. Hence some of these boys are in Pattaya to sow their wild oats before they take that big step back home. Others just want to sow their wild oats. Like the average farang who can't get lucky back home, these boys know that for the right price they're almost guaranteed to score in Pattaya. There is an ocean of available girls telling them how 'hansum' they are and for once the girls may be telling the truth. To misquote Miss Cindi Lauper, the boys just wanna have fun! Although not as evolved as it is in Thailand, the kathoey form is no stranger to the Middle East. Historically, effeminate Arab boys, or mahnooz, filled the void created by the limited access to women. Today, Arab men go for kathoeys for the same reasons that Thai guys do: kathoeys - certainly the ones in Pattaya - are available, willing, sluttier in bed and they don't get pregnant. Anything goes in the seaside circus that is Pattaya. The boys you encountered at Hollywood may have been guilty of boorish behaviour but we need to view the incident in context before we start attaching colourful descriptors in the vein of "dogs in heat": Hollywood is a third-grade Thai disco popular with punters and their $friends$, it is a notorious pick-up joint, brawls over 'chicks' are not unusual in such places and last, but not least, it is in Pattaya. You should see how some of those lager louts behave in the straight bars and how Thai guys treat unescorted Caucasian girls. And I bet Mr and Mrs Joe Wasp from Picket Fence, USA, would turn red, white and blue if they were to walk in on a 60-year-old white dog biting on the tender neck of an 18-year-old Thai puppy at Krazy Dragon. People who live in glass houses... Quote
TotallyOz Posted June 22, 2006 Author Posted June 22, 2006 And I bet Mr and Mrs Joe Wasp from Picket Fence, USA, would turn red, white and blue if they were to walk in on a 60-year-old white dog biting on the tender neck of an 18-year-old Thai puppy at Krazy Dragon. Well, you said a mouthful there! Right you are. I once invited Mr. and Mrs. Wasp to Pattaya with me. They did scoff at the goings on. After Mrs. Wasp went to sleep, Mr. Wasp joined me at Lucky 7. Quote
Guest mauRICE Posted June 23, 2006 Posted June 23, 2006 I once invited Mr. and Mrs. Wasp to Pattaya with me. They did scoff at the goings on. After Mrs. Wasp went to sleep, Mr. Wasp joined me at Lucky 7. Another closet Republican? Just how many are there? Quote
TotallyOz Posted June 23, 2006 Author Posted June 23, 2006 Another closet Republican? Just how many are there? Please feel free to call me Queen, Fag, Asshole, Buttwipe or even pervert, sicko, lardass, redneck or yellow belly. But, please, save the true insults for when you know me. A Republican? I had just soon take it up the arse from a ladyboy as to be called a Republican! (Or something I haven Quote
