First Encounters with The City of Angels

[CurtisD]

BiggusDikkus’s excellent account of his first experience of Bangkok planted the idea that a thread on ‘First Encounters’ with the City of Angels could be entertaining.

Here is mine to kick things off.

Before landing the story in Bangkok I need to back up a little as I had a vicarious familiarity with Bangkok long before I first visited.

My perfect gentleman of a father (on one occasion, after finding a slug in his salad, he wrapped it in lettuce, doused it in dressing and ate it to avoid any embarrassment to his hostess) spent time in Japan and South East Asia on business in the 1960s/70s. He was very nice and very slightly naughty. As a child I was fascinated by beautifully produced Geisha House books he brought back from Japan, full of oval pictures of perfectly made-up young women. He and my mother were each other’s best friend so whatever he found to amuse himself, it was done with her knowledge and if not blessing then at least understanding.

My parents had a broad outlook and so my being gay was a practical issue not a moral one. They had gay friends. The World was tough on homosexuals (the then term-of-use). This was unfortunate but a fact. How could they help?

They lead me to believe that sex is enjoyable, even more so if you and your partner have a connection. Nothing wrong with casual sex, but avoid becoming fixated on mere physical sex. Sex is also a mental pleasure, which is why a connection is so important.

To balance the enjoyment, there are risks. Life is a bugger. No Free Lunch and No Free Hedonism. Unplanned pregnancy can be a major life problem (although you are probably free of that one) as are diseases. Particularly syphilis (this was pre-AIDS). To clarify the point for a fifteen year old they gave me some quite advanced and very graphically illustrated medical texts. The autopsied syphilitic brain looking like a Swiss cheese was a standout image. 

To paraphrase my father “Swimming is great fun. Try to only swim in clean water. If you suspect the water may be less than clean, cover up properly and wash thoroughly afterwards, in which effort medicinal alcohol is useful”.

So I was launched into the World with few hang-ups about my sexuality, open to and aware of the pleasures of the flesh and totally paranoid about STDs. Even with raging teenage hormones the image of the brain-as-Swiss-cheese could deflate my dick in seconds.

Preparing for my first encounter with Bangkok in the pre-internet age my advance research was undertaken at the local gay bookstore. My father recommended his hotel, which is now the Anantara by Ratchadamri BTS but which back then may have been a Peninsula as that was his regular chain, and assured me that the Thais were very charming and open minded people and that I would like them.

In Bangkok, ensconced at the now-Anantara, I made a strategic decision that I soon reversed. I was not sure exactly who I would encounter at the clubs and, despite my father’s assurances of open-mindedness, I could not picture myself walking comfortably through that stunning lobby with a pickup. Guided by my gay guide I went to the Tarntawan and reserved a room for recreational purposes.

Friday, my first evening free of business obligations and I am excited. I have a map. I have a rec room. Krung Thep, mon amour!

However, there is No Free Hedonism. As I am about to going swimming in possibly less-than-clean water, I am possessed by an almost paralyzing fear of Swiss-cheese-brain-syndrome. It takes several sazeracs to reduce this to manageable dimensions before I launch myself into the night. 

The hotel porter whistles up a cab (this is pre-BTS), I give the cab driver my destination and into the traffic we go. The driver looks at me in the mirror. ‘You like boy?’. Yeesss, I carefully reply. “I take you better bar”. I feel a surge of almost crazy elation. Yes, he is probably going to his friend’s bar where he gets a commission, but these people are relaxed. I decide to go with the flow. I have a map. ‘Ok’.

I have no idea where he took me. Starting several sazeracs in and then continuing to drink at bar after bar, I have only a sketchy memory of the evening. I wanted to see it all and my memory is a blur of many bars, many boys and tip jars swallowing many red notes. All fun. It was all huge fun, even if I can’t recall the details.

Finally I took a guy off from a bar that had an aquatic show. Tall, elegant, looking wonderful in speedos. Charming. And very understanding of someone with a few too many drinks in him. He took me to a hole in the wall restaurant for carbs and coffee. Possibly I was worth sobering up as, back then, I had thick floppy bond hair and a trim swimmers build. Possibly, understandably, he did not enjoy the fumbling of drunks.

We spent several sensuous hours in mutual exploration and pillow talk. He was a student. This was how he financed his studies. How long was I in Bangkok? Not long enough, I thought.

Departing in the morning we ran a gauntlet of stares from much older farang breakfasting with last night’s offs. The kind of detached lust-absorbed stares of people trying to picture you naked, people whose conversation is best avoided as it is often distasteful. The people who in my then-not-so-far-back youth had caused me to stop going to gay clubs and switch allegiance to jazz bars. I began to dislike the Tarntawan.

In the evening I headed out to reconnect with Elegant-in-Speedos. Pre-Line, pre-iphone, pre-internet there was no easy way to remain in touch. I had to go back to the bar. But which bar? At the time I was not sure it was the aquatic one. Exploration is fun. I began at Tawan, planning to do the rounds in an efficient non-drinking manner until I found the right bar.

Leaving Tawan I was accosted by the tout from a small bar across the soi. Many boy, you like!  It was a small shabby bar with maybe eight guys who upon my entry mounted the stage and gyrated in a semi-sensual vaguely come-hither torpor. All except one and that one guy worked it with every asset and move he had. He was the most masculine of the group. An intelligent lively face, deep brown, solid muscle on a slender frame and large hands and feet which accurately indicated the potential of his endowment.   

In bed at the Tarntawan after showering together I am in sexual overdrive. This guy is hot. And then, the third time he removes my exploring hand from between his stunning buns, he holds it against my chest and gives me a polite but firm lesson in reality. He like girl. Have girlfriend. Have men sex as it pay a lot more than construction. While I am customer, he is himself, has boundaries, I need to respect them and him.

It had never occurred to me that any guy working gogo would be anything but gay (naivety) or that anything within my vanilla repertoire would be off-limits (arrogance). He sees these thoughts on my face and smiles, pulls close and says ‘Here what I do’. I tell him what I do and then, as two tops, we proceed to make each other feel good. Within his boundaries he is very sexual. Why is more of the World not like this?

After showering we leave together, him to his girlfriend and me to the more comfortable accommodations of the now-Anantara. It is around 1am and in the lobby I again encounter the gauntlet of stares from the sexually-fixated. Now I dislike the Tarntawan.

Sunday, my final free evening, I reconnect with Elegant-in-Speedos. Looking at him in his street clothes I think I would not at all mind being seen with him at the now-Anantara. So that is where we go. We have cocktails and Thai food from the twenty four hour menu in the lobby. No one stares.

In the room there is a bowl of red spiky Thai fruit which I have not been sure how to approach. His eyes light up and he shells one for each of us. They have a sweet and slightly scented taste. Our lips lock in a sweet and scented kiss.

I looked for him the next time I visited Bangkok. ‘How long you not here? He graduate, go home’.

The beginning of a cycle. A long and enjoyable cycle.

Long may it last!

 

 

[PeterRS]

Lovely report, thanks.

You are correct. It probably was The Peninsula on Rajadamri. Now the Anantara it was built near the end of the 1970s as part of Hong Kong's Peninsula Group. Thats one reason why the lobby looks very like the lobby in the Hong Kong flagship. But bust quickly followed that economic boom and so the Peninsula management sold on to The Regent International Hotel Group in the early 1980s. Later it was then sold on to the Four Seasons.

During the Regent era, there was a policy of no joiners. I once took a nice boy from the bars back to the hotel. I knew there was a security guard at the lift lobby and se we waited until he was otherwise engaged before sneaking in to one. I had forgotten about security cameras. About 3 minutes after we arrived at the room, the phone rang. I did not answer. It rang about 4 more times, and than thankfully ceased.

But then came the knock on the door. I quickly realised this was security. I told my guest to be silent and did not respond. The knocking continued for about 5 minutes, after which we were finally left in peace. But I was furious!

I checked the hotel regulations. Nothing there about not taking guests to the room. So I wrote an angry letter to the GM. He responded with a major apology and the offer of a free week-end. I made sure to book for two people!

[CurtisD]

5 hours ago, PeterRS said:

Lovely report, thanks.

You are correct. It probably was The Peninsula on Rajadamri. Now the Anantara it was built near the end of the 1970s as part of Hong Kong's Peninsula Group. Thats one reason why the lobby looks very like the lobby in the Hong Kong flagship. But bust quickly followed that economic boom and so the Peninsula management sold on to The Regent International Hotel Group in the early 1980s. Later it was then sold on to the Four Seasons.

During the Regent era, there was a policy of no joiners. I once took a nice boy from the bars back to the hotel. I knew there was a security guard at the lift lobby and se we waited until he was otherwise engaged before sneaking in to one. I had forgotten about security cameras. About 3 minutes after we arrived at the room, the phone rang. I did not answer. It rang about 4 more times, and than thankfully ceased.

But then came the knock on the door. I quickly realised this was security. I told my guest to be silent and did not respond. The knocking continued for about 5 minutes, after which we were finally left in peace. But I was furious!

I checked the hotel regulations. Nothing there about not taking guests to the room. So I wrote an angry letter to the GM. He responded with a major apology and the offer of a free week-end. I made sure to book for two people!

Wow!

Thank you for setting them straight!

You must have, as I never had any problems in the roughly ten years I used it as my base until around 2005, by which time it was a Four Seasons.

[PeterRS]

I cannot be certain of the year but I think the early 90s. All I remember is that the GM was named Bill Black.

[CurtisD]

10 hours ago, PeterRS said:

I cannot be certain of the year but I think the early 90s. All I remember is that the GM was named Bill Black.

Peter, I suspect I owe you a very large thank you for ten years of uninterrupted fun. If our paths cross in Bangkok it will be my pleasure to stand you a substantial number of cocktails. 

[PeterRS]

I am sure others must also have complained and I certainly would not claim any credit! I suspect security were kept so busy trying to keep the bar girls and boys out of the rooms that they finally gave up! But one large cocktail would be a great and unexpected pleasure.

[GWMinUS]

It was most enjoyable to hear the story about your first encounter in Bangkok. I hope others will contribute!! To that end, this was my First Encounter in Bangkok...

Mine is about a tiny bar across from Tawan. My first visit to Bangkok was in 2001. I was lucky to have met a German man on Yahoo Chat. We met at the Tarntawan and set out to do the Bars!! We went to Tomahawk Go-Go, which was directly across from Tawan. It was tiny place with banked seating along one side of the room and a small platform on the opposite side where the Boys came out to dance.

One of the Guys dancing caught my eye and after he left the stage I ask the Mamasan to bring him over for a drink. As an aside, the Mamasan was Lek who later managed Soild and recently the small bar in Soi Twilight. So the young guy arrived and sat with me. But something did not seem quite right. We talked, all the standard questions. And then I excused myself to go to the toilet. It was toward the back of the Bar when the Boys hung out between their moments on the stage. A path was cleared for me to the toilet, I relieved myself, and when I came back out I saw standing there the Boy who I had really been smitten by earlier. What was going on?? Well it turns out it was his younger Brother who Lek had brought over!!!

We quickly cleared up the confusion and both understood my preference for the older Brother. So off we went to Tarntawan for an excellent night!! The Boy who I will call “T” was a dream. He had a great body. Beautiful smile. A huge cock.  A nice tattoo. He did everything!! He loved to smoke and be smoked and he even had me fuck him!!! Well I fell in Love!!! Too bad I had a long-time Boy Friend back home in the USA…

Just to complete the story. We met several times on future trips. And I always enjoyed our time together. Went on several trips in Thailand. He had two sons he was raising himself. His younger brother was Gay and had a Thai BF. Now many years later, my Guy is in his late 30s and still looks good. He worked as a Mamasan at Boys Bangkok. And the last time I was in the Bar he took me down the Soi to meet his two sons who work in other Bars. They are both grown, equally handsome, married, and have children.

Too bad I have not seen Grand Dad in several years. But the memories are still the best!!

Hua jai kong pom ben kong koon!!

[NIrishGuy]

Great read, thanks for posting CurtisD, more to come I hope ! 

[CurtisD]

GWMinUS,  I think your first bar, Tomahawk, is probably the same one I went to my second night and connected with Lesson-in-Reality-Guy.  Small World. 

[GWMinUS]

HUM, it probably was Tomahawk. Too bad your Boy was STR8.

T was not!! Probably Bi!! He enjoyed sex and made me, at 60 yo then, HAPPY HAPPY!! He became my Friend and our hook-ups where always special!!! I did lose it with him. Helped him with Beauty Classes and opening a Shop. But then that is part of being a Dad....

Come on Guys. Must be more stories out there???

[CurtisD]

1 hour ago, GWMinUS said:

Helped him with Beauty Classes and opening a Shop. But then that is part of being a Dad....

Oh, tell me about it! 

[alex303]

Some great reports in this thread so a personal thank you from me too for sharing them with us!

Its got me counting down the days till my return in August...lol

[spoon]

My first time visiting is actually recorded as a trip report here, at it was in November 2016. 

I prefer massage over going to bar, so on my first day, i got a foot massage at wat pho and gay massage at arena. That night i still went to my first gogo bar visit as reported below

Couldnt get to sleep even though i wanted too. So I just lay down in bed and watched tv until its almost 10pm. Its time to finally go to tawan. I am glad that tawan is out at a different and quiter road because as i passed by soi twilight, i can only imagine the annoyance walking through a bunch of punters when all u want to do is cruising the road. Not much of cruising in front of tawan though. Still hesitates whether i should enter so i walked on the other side of tawan bar. As i passed the door I immediately turn right and went inside rightaway. This is it, today i am no longer gogobar virgin lol. Mamasan immedeately show me to the nearest sit to the door, i scanned quickly through the bar and see some empty seats at the back and asked to sit there. Mamasan nodded, and seat me asked my drink order and pay right away. Seems like a lot of people were already here waiting, though i wouldnt say its a full house. I am glad that i chose my seat where its at the corner but i can still see the stage and enjoy the show. Next to me is one very old chap wearing slacks and shirt, and already a boy no47 sitting next to him talking and flirting. I kinda like that boy as well, but seems like he is occupied. Having seated at the end, i can just observed the stage and the customers alike. And since not many new comers actually asked for seats at the end of the bar, i got the table to myself, and some of the boys actually hanged out at these corners too. The boys are already on stage taking turns to gain attention. I immediately recognised one of them, tong the mr thai, thanks to this forum. He is in great shape and one of the biggest muscle guy there that doesnt have tummy. Half of them are already bearish type, a few have no defined muscle but majority have well defined muscular abs and pecks.

The show is about to start and i saw one guy, darked skin, which later i found out he is no45. His body, abs and ass is definitely to die for but his look resemble someone back home that i actually hate lol still good looking though but i feel weird haha. He ended up seating to my right at some point and i just couldnt start a conversation.

Ok back to storyline. So I seated next to this old chap, and after no47 get on stage, immedeately some other boy (not to my liking so i dont remember his number) and the. Another boy seat next to this boy, which is just beside me.

I keep my cool and just stare at the stage, and the show is about to start. The lights is out and comes no 45 getting ready to go on stage wearing this studded skimpy undie with penis head exposed. And i noticed the boy next to the old chap also took his out for the chap to play a bit. Just a lot of teasing, touching. The other boy starts to try talki g to me but he is not my type so i just say i wanted to just enjoy the show. He obliged but did touch me a bit again after a while, playfully, but i still insists.

The show was quite revealing, im pretty sure many here have already explained. Theres flexing show, where they took off their undies in the end, some very show bj show (no45 on stage receiving but he is the only one with his face showing, wouldve been better if he cover his face since i just cant shake the resemblance), then some body wave dancing shows (2 of them wearing the greco wrestling outfit, one of them is no 47, very hot) then theres this short 3some sex show, no actual penetration though but no 45 is in it as the pretend bottom. Another short snm show with oil, hot oil with wax, blindfold, and a rubber paddle. Jerk off show with 3 guys.

After the end of the show, the guys all come back on stage, not all. No 45 seats to my left resting, and I immedeately blushed lol couldnt talk to him and definitely not offing him but god his body and ass is to die for. No 47 comes to his old chap but this time 3 other boys are there so he goes in front of him, rubbing his hand on the chaps legs and then goes under his shirt touching is nipple. After a few while the old chap left without off anyone, and i dont see any of the boys gets any tips or drinks. I actually feel sorry for them, especially 47. At this point i already decide not to off anyone, but no47 did glance and smile at me. I just watched a different direction and i see him going the other way. More people leaving, and i decided to leave as well. I did tip 100 for the the guy during jerk off show. And the drink charge, no one else. No off since i got to wake up early for ayutthaya tomorrow, and i already have a very satisfied massage session. Otherwise, i wouldve off at least 3 of the guys i saw today. All 3 of different size. Tong which is the largest, didnt see him do anything today, but he dont really need to i think. No 45, just for that ass slightly smaller build than tong, and 47, which is rather skinny but fair and smooth skin, japanese look, and very nice attitude based on how he treat that old chap.

Im pumped to go again tomorrow, and maybe finally gets the courage to off longtime once. We'll see. If not, maybe next trip. Dunno if i want to go to other gogobar yet.

Overall, i like the show and glad that i went tonight. There is this almost chubby guy with chinese look doing the show though, dont like him at all, he did the snm show as the master and the pretend sex show as the top. Totally a turn off, maybe he is the owner or something lol

And yes, i did finally go back to tawan amd off no47 on a different night of the same trip, my first off and only off of that trip. 

[vinapu]

My first  encounter with Bangkok scene was back in November  2001, post 9/11 attack when planes were flying half empty and tourism was yet to recover . Our  Thai  747 from Los Angeles to Bangkok  with stopover at Kansai (Osaka) was barely 1/3 full and it made to one of most comfortable transcontinental trip I ever took having 3 seats to my disposal. Only inconvenience was arrival at ungodly hour but taxi driver made  good introduction to  a scene.

We barely moved from Don Muang when he asked me if I want a girl, ‘no ‘ answer was immediately countered  with  ‘ if you want  boy , I have one for you “ so I know gay paradise is not stuff of legends. But I did not take  his offer if only because my usual dislike of using of intermediaries.

Those days Dreaded Ned website was our Bible and I studied it before setting for that trip so in the evening I took BTS / that trip was only one ever I stay in Sukhumvit area / to Patpong to survey the scene there.  Wandering here and  there I finally arrived  to my chosen bar , name long forgotten which was located along the Rama stretch where BBB Inn is right now. I’m pretty sure at that location them was massage called K-something  and my bar was where Take a-Nap hostel  is now as I clearly recall there were few steps down inside.

Not that I entered immediately. Like every novice worth his name I was circling  back and forth and it took probably good 10 minutes walking back and forth along the stretch before I braved in. Timing was good, place was packed, show was going on but mamasan found me a seat, brought my drink  and chatted me up. Being inexperienced I confessed it’s my first  day of first  trip to Thailand and his bar is also my first.

It was not actually bad idea as he explained me everything, that boys with numbers on the stage can be taken, off fee needs to be paid, when I said I can’t take boy to my hotel he said that boy  knows where  rooms to be rented by the hour  are and what price would be and most important that boy expects a tip between 1000 and 2000. Only thing left out was short / long time distinction.

Seeing that I can barely breath with all those sensation  he took a lead and  told me that I should take boy number this and that because he is very popular and I will be happy with him.  He showed him to me on the stage , muscular and tall,  I smiled which was taken as approval and before I could say  something boy was sitting beside and it did not take much before he turned very clingy so we both knew deal is sealed.  I was ready to go but both gentlemen told me to wait because special show will start now.

Yes it was legendary acrobatic Bangkok   f***k show, I don’t recall top but still remember that bottom was very attractive muscular guy. Almost as attractive as one which was forced upon me my that enterprising mamas an. When couple started their tip collecting tour  among audience and they stopped right in front of me armed with visible 100 baht note,   part of their act  was done on my lap , to this day I don’t know why I did not get heart attack from excitement as it’s  one thing to hear about those performances but another to have it actually performed right , say, almost on me.

I don’t even recall mamsan soliciting any tips from me but he walked us both to  a door wishing  us nice evening which was bound to happen hell or high water  because my new companion was actually 100 % my type. Tall,  muscular but not overbuilt and smooth like baby and looked mid-20 for me , now knowing that Asians are looking much younger to our eyes I think he was probably even older .

We went to short time rooms on ground level of Suriwongse hotel , I don’t recall what was price but definitely nothing eye-popping. 

It did not take much time for us to undress and land in the shower only to realize seconds later  that there are no towels.  But system worked because  in the same second it was knock to door and some loud scream translated by my guy as towels arrived. Without second thought he went as he was , in Adam’s dress to collect then  at the door enforcing my impression that we are not in place for shy people.

Next 2 hours  were heavenly but moment I remember the best came at very end. I remembered mamsan advice about tip 1000-2000 and was not in the mood to economize so pulled  4 500 baht notes / there was no 1000 bill those days, at least I don’t recall seeing one that trip / and handed over to  a boy who made sound I can hear to this day. Embrace was one of strongest ever and parting kiss was longer than eternity .

 I thought it was  just part of decorum and only later  I learned that 2000 those days was considered generous overnight   tip and for those 2 hours 1000 would be making boy smiling broadly. Lesson learned and I haste to say it was pleasant one. Boy made me happy and I managed to make him happier still , it cost me  a bit but did not made me destitute.

Next day I was flying to Phnom Penh , when I returned  I decided to immense myself in pleasures of massages discovering HIS and Arena in the same plaza and later on Aqua Spa and never returned to that bar. Next year it was gone for good but I still recall that happy sound by the  boy overpaid by farang without a clue  

[GWMinUS]

OH Aqua Spa!! My first trip to a massage place.

Fortunately I had taken a taxi. Otherwise I would not have found it. I was ushered into the viewing room. The guys were there working their weights. And I was asked to make a selection... I picked the guy with the nicest SMILE. (This was long before vinapu offer his selection rule!!) Cannot remember his name...

We went to a nice room upstairs and he gave me a excellent strong massage. Surprising since he was not a big guy. But the real surprise was when he asked me to fuck him!! I said YES and he produced a condom!! HEAVEN!!!

Took a long shower and upon leaving I could not find a Taxi. So I decided to talk back to the Tartawan Hotel. I was in much better shape back then. But it was hot and I got as far as Sathorn and Chong Nonsi and gave up. Took a Tuk Tuk  back to the Hotel. That was also an adventure.

I went back to Aqua Spa again. But my First Pick was not there. He had gone back to Chang Mai.

[PeterRS]

2 hours ago, vinapu said:

Wandering here and  there I finally arrived  to my chosen bar , name long forgotten which was located along the Rama stretch where BBB Inn is right now.

I suspect that must have been My Way which was located a few yards off Rama 4 between Silom and Suriwong. Usually it had great dancing with lots of athletic boys doing their thing on 2 or 3 floor to ceiling poles. Only thing is I cannot remember shows there. So I may be wrong.

[manuelmendez]

On 6/2/2019 at 11:12 PM, spoon said:

My first time visiting is actually recorded as a trip report here, at it was in November 2016. 

I prefer massage over going to bar, so on my first day, i got a foot massage at wat pho and gay massage at arena. That night i still went to my first gogo bar visit as reported below

Couldnt get to sleep even though i wanted too. So I just lay down in bed and watched tv until its almost 10pm. Its time to finally go to tawan. I am glad that tawan is out at a different and quiter road because as i passed by soi twilight, i can only imagine the annoyance walking through a bunch of punters when all u want to do is cruising the road. Not much of cruising in front of tawan though. Still hesitates whether i should enter so i walked on the other side of tawan bar. As i passed the door I immediately turn right and went inside rightaway. This is it, today i am no longer gogobar virgin lol. Mamasan immedeately show me to the nearest sit to the door, i scanned quickly through the bar and see some empty seats at the back and asked to sit there. Mamasan nodded, and seat me asked my drink order and pay right away. Seems like a lot of people were already here waiting, though i wouldnt say its a full house. I am glad that i chose my seat where its at the corner but i can still see the stage and enjoy the show. Next to me is one very old chap wearing slacks and shirt, and already a boy no47 sitting next to him talking and flirting. I kinda like that boy as well, but seems like he is occupied. Having seated at the end, i can just observed the stage and the customers alike. And since not many new comers actually asked for seats at the end of the bar, i got the table to myself, and some of the boys actually hanged out at these corners too. The boys are already on stage taking turns to gain attention. I immediately recognised one of them, tong the mr thai, thanks to this forum. He is in great shape and one of the biggest muscle guy there that doesnt have tummy. Half of them are already bearish type, a few have no defined muscle but majority have well defined muscular abs and pecks.

The show is about to start and i saw one guy, darked skin, which later i found out he is no45. His body, abs and ass is definitely to die for but his look resemble someone back home that i actually hate lol still good looking though but i feel weird haha. He ended up seating to my right at some point and i just couldnt start a conversation.

Ok back to storyline. So I seated next to this old chap, and after no47 get on stage, immedeately some other boy (not to my liking so i dont remember his number) and the. Another boy seat next to this boy, which is just beside me.

I keep my cool and just stare at the stage, and the show is about to start. The lights is out and comes no 45 getting ready to go on stage wearing this studded skimpy undie with penis head exposed. And i noticed the boy next to the old chap also took his out for the chap to play a bit. Just a lot of teasing, touching. The other boy starts to try talki g to me but he is not my type so i just say i wanted to just enjoy the show. He obliged but did touch me a bit again after a while, playfully, but i still insists.

The show was quite revealing, im pretty sure many here have already explained. Theres flexing show, where they took off their undies in the end, some very show bj show (no45 on stage receiving but he is the only one with his face showing, wouldve been better if he cover his face since i just cant shake the resemblance), then some body wave dancing shows (2 of them wearing the greco wrestling outfit, one of them is no 47, very hot) then theres this short 3some sex show, no actual penetration though but no 45 is in it as the pretend bottom. Another short snm show with oil, hot oil with wax, blindfold, and a rubber paddle. Jerk off show with 3 guys.

After the end of the show, the guys all come back on stage, not all. No 45 seats to my left resting, and I immedeately blushed lol couldnt talk to him and definitely not offing him but god his body and ass is to die for. No 47 comes to his old chap but this time 3 other boys are there so he goes in front of him, rubbing his hand on the chaps legs and then goes under his shirt touching is nipple. After a few while the old chap left without off anyone, and i dont see any of the boys gets any tips or drinks. I actually feel sorry for them, especially 47. At this point i already decide not to off anyone, but no47 did glance and smile at me. I just watched a different direction and i see him going the other way. More people leaving, and i decided to leave as well. I did tip 100 for the the guy during jerk off show. And the drink charge, no one else. No off since i got to wake up early for ayutthaya tomorrow, and i already have a very satisfied massage session. Otherwise, i wouldve off at least 3 of the guys i saw today. All 3 of different size. Tong which is the largest, didnt see him do anything today, but he dont really need to i think. No 45, just for that ass slightly smaller build than tong, and 47, which is rather skinny but fair and smooth skin, japanese look, and very nice attitude based on how he treat that old chap.

Im pumped to go again tomorrow, and maybe finally gets the courage to off longtime once. We'll see. If not, maybe next trip. Dunno if i want to go to other gogobar yet.

Overall, i like the show and glad that i went tonight. There is this almost chubby guy with chinese look doing the show though, dont like him at all, he did the snm show as the master and the pretend sex show as the top. Totally a turn off, maybe he is the owner or something lol

And yes, i did finally go back to tawan amd off no47 on a different night of the same trip, my first off and only off of that trip. 

nice story. tawan is one of my place. 

[vinapu]

4 hours ago, PeterRS said:

I suspect that must have been My Way which was located a few yards off Rama 4 between Silom and Suriwong. Usually it had great dancing with lots of athletic boys doing their thing on 2 or 3 floor to ceiling poles. Only thing is I cannot remember shows there. So I may be wrong.

no,  My Way was  in small dead end soi , my first bar was on main drag

[PeterRS]

45 minutes ago, vinapu said:

no,  My Way was  in small dead end soi , my first bar was on main drag

I dont recall any other gogo bar on Rama 4. I hope others can enlighten us.

[rollingstone]

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• 17 hours ago, PeterRS said:

  I dont recall any other gogo bar on Rama 4. I hope others can enlighten us.

Could it have been 'up to you' bar? I also could not remember a show. Recall that I liked one of the waiters; but he was shy!

Years later, the waiter boy became a mamasan in some Twilight bar; he may be still around; but it must have been 15+ years.

[vinapu]

7 hours ago, rollingstone said:

Could it have been 'up to you' bar? I also could not remember a show. Recall that I liked one of the waiters; but he was shy!

 

I think you are right, that was the name if I recall from the map somebody presented on the forum a while ago when we had previous bout of nostalgia.

For me main lesson from first encounter is to do homework before venturing in, it's why forum like this is precious. Who would think about short and long times, LOL

[daydreamer]

On 6/15/2019 at 8:14 AM, vinapu said:

I think you are right, that was the name if I recall from the map somebody presented on the forum a while ago when we had previous bout of nostalgia.

For me main lesson from first encounter is to do homework before venturing in, it's why forum like this is precious. Who would think about short and long times, LOL

Yes, I posted the map, and rollingstone is correct, it was Up2U bar.  Here's the map again - saved from the old Dreaded Ned's website from 2002:

 

 

[vinapu]

Thank you, I need somehow to memorize that  Up 2 name as it always escaped me. Too much on excitement for a first time I guess.

[lotus123]

Wow, that map brings it all back in big way. So many places have disappeared. One of my faves in the early years of the millenium was Super Lex Matsuda, specifically when it was being (well) run by Khun Phet. I had a regular there who was the star of the fuck show. He and it were very memorable, but the most memorable evening I ever spent there was during the beginning of the 'Social Order' campaign in 2001. Sex and nudity were briefly banned, so the bars suddenly had to improvise new shows. Khun Phet's solution was to turn the SLM show into a talent show in which the boys, fully clothed, did everything from skits to playing instruments to singing. One boy I'd never noticed before got up and did a haunting mor lam number in Lao, a capella. I've never forgotten it. A week or two later, everything was back to normal.

Apologies for going off topic...

[PeterRS]

Many thanks for the map daydreamer. It certainly brings back memories. I could never work out why the random numbering system made it bit difficult to read. I remember many of these types of map not only from Dreaded Ned but also from other sites (Nickys) and the various free publications we could usually pick up in the bars and in Dicks Cafe. Despite all the effort by the compilers there were always little errors and omissions which pissed some readers off. In this one, the Swiss Lodge (now Le Siam - very nice hotel) is on the other side of the road. LOL Very minor issues but I remember an extended discussion on this Board some years ago ago about incomplete listings and wrong positioning. Thailand OUT (I think that was the name) came under criticism. I actually thought that it was an excellent magazine. It was published by an expat based in Chiang Mai who replied pointing out the difficulty of getting someone to assemble maps in the first place and then keeping them up to date. He even got an exclusive interview with Sir ian McKellan. His series of Bangkok maps were pretty good I thought. Then one day he had to leave Thailand very suddenly and the magazine died.