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12 minutes ago, dellboy said:

if i book a hotel for two , is it acceptable to bring a boy back to stay overnight ?

Generally yes.     A minority of hotels appear to charge "joiners fees", so those hotels get avoided. 

If I'm booking via Booking.com, or such sites, I always check the T&C for the hotel.  Most don't specify any restrictions on joiners.  So I would be very quick to point to these T&C if I were ever challenged, but so far that has not happened.  

[dellboy]

thanks for the fast reply z909 . 

one other question , where is the best place/area to pick up a boy ? im talking berlin of course 

[dellboy]

oops , sorry , i didnt really realise it was a pattaya topic , sorry again . 

[vinapu]

32 minutes ago, dellboy said:

oops , sorry , i didnt really realise it was a pattaya topic , sorry again . 

don't worry whoring is more or less  the same everywhere

[Guest]

4 hours ago, dellboy said:

thanks for the fast reply z909 . 

one other question , where is the best place/area to pick up a boy ? im talking berlin of course 

Probably Planet Romeo in Berlin, unless it's changed in the last couple of years.    There are bars in Fuggerstrasse, but I would no longer expect to pick up there.

 

[reader]

17 hours ago, z909 said:

Generally yes.     A minority of hotels appear to charge "joiners fees", so those hotels get avoided. 

If I'm booking via Booking.com, or such sites, I always check the T&C for the hotel.  Most don't specify any restrictions on joiners.  So I would be very quick to point to these T&C if I were ever challenged, but so far that has not happened.  

Good advice.

In my 19 years (18, actually, since none occurred last year) of visits to bkk, I avoided the known hotels that impose joiner fees. However, I was never once stopped from briningg a guy to my room in any of the others. 

I use to like to stay a few nights during each trip in one of the top-tier hotels around Silom. Before it closed, the Dusit Thani was my favorite by far. And, like the other 5-star digs, staff discretion was always observed.

But regardless of where I was staying, anytime I brought a guy to my room I made a habit of talking directly with him as we passed through the lobby. Even if he didn't understand much, or any, of my English, it was clear to observers that we were comfortable in each other's company. I think that helps put everyone concerned at ease.

[vinapu]

3 hours ago, reader said:

 I think that helps put everyone concerned at ease.

and we should remember that one of concerned may be of our boy who may not feel comfortable being paraded with farang often older than his own grandfather, perhaps even more than said farang and other spectators and staff

[vinapu]

3 hours ago, reader said:

 

I use to like to stay a few nights during each trip in one of the top-tier hotels around Silom. Before it closed, the Dusit Thani was my favorite by far. And, like the other 5-star digs, staff discretion was always observed.

 

I don't have any, other that Amara,  experience with top tiers in BKK but can confirm that discretion there.  I guess in places of that class last thing staff should do is to embarrass  it's guests. Like my friend once remarked. 'in cheap places you can do what you want because nobody cares , in expensive it's the same , because you pay for it"

[reader]

Ditto about Amara, now my top choice.

[reader]

2 hours ago, vinapu said:

and we should remember that one of concerned may be of our boy who may not feel comfortable being paraded with farang often older than his own grandfather, perhaps even more than said farang and other spectators and staff

I've made it a practice not to parade ever since leaving the army eons ago. 

And to be honest, I don't give any consideration to what the staff or spectators are thinking. I'm concerned only with how me and my guest experience what's going on.

If I was uncomfortable walking beside a younger man, then I agree it would be a problem for me. But have been doing it for a long time and that's never been an issue.

If the young man was uncomfortable, then he's probably in the wrong line of work. Although I've never had a young man express any hesitation along those lines.

Somehow both of us have to get upstairs to my room. He could walk a few meters behind me I suppose.  I understand that in some traditional Asian cultures, a wife walks several steps behind her husband, but that would feel particularly odd in this situation.

I understand that others may feel differently and adopt alternative methods of arrival. No problem.

 

[vinapu]

6 minutes ago, reader said:

If the young man was uncomfortable, then he's probably in the wrong line of work. Although I've never had a young man express any hesitation along those lines.

 

Not quite. One of two cases of hesitation I recall had nothing to do with what we think. Guy simply did not want to be seen with  farang to preserve his attractiveness  to girls in the audience, kind of keeping up appearances. So we chose different way of going to the hotel in the  parallel soi 

Another fit suspicion of  a bit of need for discretion - he was well known in the area but not in an escort capacity as he was only moonlighting to supplement his income. So we walked on opposite sides of street and yes , he was stopped  for brief chat by  other people probably of 2-3 times .  

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1 hour ago, reader said:

If I was uncomfortable walking beside a younger man, then I agree it would be a problem for me. But have been doing it for a long time and that's never been an issue.

If the young man was uncomfortable, then he's probably in the wrong line of work. Although I've never had a young man express any hesitation along those lines.

I and the latest lad are usually quite comfortable walking together.   However, I am over 5000 miles from home and he's usually over 100 miles from home, which is also enough.   A minority of lads working in Pattaya are locals, as are some in Bangkok, although that's a large city.

In the unlikely event that Fresh Boys relocated to our home towns or villages, would we all be quite so confident to be seen out with their staff?     I'd probably be more discrete.

One time I was distinctly uncomfortable was after offing a very small lad in his late 20s from Eros.   For the walk back to The Classrooms Hotel, he had a hooded top with teddy bear ears on it, which from a distance looked rather immature.   He was in his late 20s & showing showing signs of ageing, but that was only noticeable close up from the front.

I've occasionally seen lads walking a bit ahead or behind in Bangkok, but they are the minority.

[reader]

4 hours ago, z909 said:

In the unlikely event that Fresh Boys relocated to our home towns or villages, would we all be quite so confident to be seen out with their staff?     I'd probably be more discrete.

Back home or on the road, everyone's entitled to conduct their affairs as they see fit, no question.

I lived 80% of my life being very discreet, very concerned about what others would think of me if they knew I was gay.

If I can’t now walk with who I want, where I want, when I want, when will I?

And if someone doesn't want to walk beside me, that's fine because others will.