Bars Report 2019

[JackR]

Hi All

I'm just home from two weeks in Thailand

I've been an avid reader of these forums since I started travelling to Thailand over 5 years ago, and it has been of enormous help to me! So I thought it was time to finally give something back. This is not a "full trip report" - no discussions of daily itineraries or offs - I've just written some general notes on the bars I visited on this recent trip.

These comments / observations are based around my own experiences and preferences, and I'm sure there will be some disagreements and maybe some reiteration with other threads, but nonetheless, let me know your thoughts.

 

Jupiter - I made three visits here. For me, probably the best selection of guys in BKK. If you like young guys, with boy-next-door / model looks and athletic bodies, then there is lots of choice here. One of the guys who takes part in the main solo and group dance numbers was particularly hot - I don't know if his name is Arm or Aek? (I'm going by the Jupiter thread.)

What I also liked about this club when I first visited it last year was that the mamsans were not pushy. Neung was so nice and very helpful to me on that visit. However, this year he was on holiday to Pattaya, and I struggled to get the attention of any of the other mamasans at all. They all seemed to be glued to particular customers (big tippers?). Even when I asked one of them about pricing, he just told me how much it was and then walked away - didn't seem interested in helping. Nevertheless, I got what I wanted in the end, after some persistence.

Another lesson learned here was to ask for the one you want early to avoid disappointment! They get taken quickly.

 

Moonlight - I was so happy to finally visit Moonlight. The club opened just after my last visit in 2018, so for the last year, I've been following it through this forum and the live Facebook videos - so to see the stars was like seeing celebrities! Mr. Babe is beautiful and his dancing made him even more attractive. And I found Mr. Smart to be more handsome than his pics. Maybe it's his neat haircut, but he looks more like an educated, middle-class professional than most of the other boys. He was in a choreographed matador routine with Mr. Lucky which I wasn't a big fan of. Sadly no Nicky!

Some of the non-superstar guys available here are also pretty good looking. But it made me wonder - why would you want to work in a bar like this where you are treated as a second-tier model, when you could work somewhere like Jupiter - where all gogos are created equal? Or do you think they hope to graduate to superstar?

Mamasans here were very pleasant, and I'm also glad they removed that staircase that used to come down over the audience onto the front of the stage. It blocked the view.

 

X-Boys - I love the crew here. They welcome my friend and I back with hugs and kisses every year - and our wallets! But I find them so charming and hilarious that I don't mind - it's always a good night. The boys here are typically on the twinkish side and I've enjoyed several boys from this establishment - but to be honest, for the last couple of years, I've found the best eyecandy here to be the Viet waiters.

Mamsan here told me that they are moving after next month, but she doesn't know where. But as per the other threads on this topic, it seems like all the bars have been saying this for the last year, so it's hard to know if its real or not.

As for the Soi itself - I wouldn't have described it as quiet - there seemed to be a steady stream of people at the lower end - but its certainly quieter as the years pass, and sad to see the corrugated iron fencing covering up the closed businesses at the far end.

 

Dreamboys - the first bar I ever visited in Bangkok (as per a recommendation on this forum of course) so I always love coming back here. I find the shows here to be the wackiest of the bars that I regularly visit. I visited only once on this trip, and arrived late, so missed the giant inflatable cock soaking everyone, but was treated to screeching ladyboys plucking some innocents from the audience, stripping them and pretending to fuck them on stage before squirting cream everywhere. I find it so ridiculous it's actually funny.

Always a varied selection of guys here - something for everyone. But the stage was not as crowded as it was on previous years. I've been hoping that the handsome coyote dancer who has been there for years will one day be available....

 

Tawan - the guys in this bar are not specifically my type - more mature, bodybuilder-types - nor am I a fan of masks and leather gear, but something always draws me to come back here. It's almost mesmerising watching them, just for their size! They had an interesting show with an airport security theme - you can imagine.

 

BoyzBoyzBoyz (Pattaya) - I would say I come to Pattaya just for BBB. There is a varied selection of guys here and I've always found something that has piqued my interest - plus, I like taking someone to the short time rooms upstairs while the show is still ongoing.

But this year the guys were all fully dressed in street clothes (except for 2 or 3 who were shirtless) - I was suprised how much this reduced the hotness of the selection. In the end I ended up getting nothing at all.

BBB also has a fairly skilful show. There was an acrobatic/gymnastic routine at the very beginning, and then the regular breakdancers, who are always very impressive. The compere/owner of this club is also pretty funny, and a young waiter with anime hair is always really friendly to us.

At midnight, everyone was ushered over to the new disco bar on the other side of the street. I didn't fully understand the point of this. The same selection of boys just stand on the stage at the second venue and everything continues as normal.

 

Some general observations on the crowds:

Not very many farang - mainly Asian customers now (Chinese). I guess that for the gay communities in western europe and north america, cultural/societal and technological changes mean that there is perhaps less of a desire to travel so far for paid sex. (I, on the other hand, don't know why everyone doen't want to come here for these adventures!)

Also, a lot more women. This was particularly evident in BBB. On both nights, it was filled with large groups of both Asian and Western women. I find these loud, drunk young girls annoying to be honest. The Asian girls do seem to bring down guys from the stage to talk and party with them, but I don't think they off them. And the white girls just seem to come to gawk and laugh. But at the same time I understand, and reluctanly appreciate that a wider demographic may be required to keep these clubs open. I just hope they don't open their own women-only clubs and steal all the guys.

I've probably forgotten a few things, but that's all for now - I hope this has been of some help, particularly to any newbies out there!

 

[hank75]

I wish I could Super Like this 

[abidismaili]

Thanks. Although I am into twinks.

I want to reply to your idea why farang don't go to Thailand anymore in the numbers they used to. I think the explanation is not as you say. Let's be honest: if you want - above a certain age - a boy of your type, you will need to pay (it is rare a 60 year old can get for free his 20 year told ideal type).

I think the reason is financial. Not only because many pensions haven't been indexed for inflation for quite some years, but also the strong baht. I notice this this on my current trip. I get less baht for my euros. 

[reader]

35 minutes ago, JackR said:

X-Boys - .... but to be honest, for the last couple of years, I've found the best eyecandy here to be the Viet waiters.

You'e not alone in this opinion.

[spoon]

I agree totally with your observation of BBB, and frankly, it is still one of the bars that makes me want to go back to pattaya. I probably will enjoy BBB better in low season when the crowd is thinner, so i will be more comfortable to call a guy down and sit next to me. My last visit, there isnt any room for boys to sit with you at all, so they go and sit outside during shows.

I wish tawan had that airport security show when i was there lol  and hopefully more new faces too. The selection they had when i was there was not the best ive seen them had before.

I also find dreamboys shows funny, and its best enjoyed with friends or boy sitting next to you. Eager to see the new dreamboy after the move, as the old one does seems to have lost its charm based on the number of customers. 

[jason1975]

4 hours ago, reader said:

You'e not alone in this opinion.

I totally agree!

[hank75]

10 hours ago, JackR said:

Some of the non-superstar guys available here are also pretty good looking. But it made me wonder - why would you want to work in a bar like this where you are treated as a second-tier model, when you could work somewhere like Jupiter - where all gogos are created equal? Or do you think they hope to graduate to superstar?

Just because I can answer this one... the basic pay at Moonlight is slightly better than many of the other bars, there is the prestige of working in one of the bigger, more professional venues, but not as penalty-heavy as Jupiter. Better sick leave policy for instance. I have been to the bar on very quiet nights, but someone recently reported on this forum that business seemed brisk and most boys were offed by midnight - so I guess the income is steady enough to keeep them happy.

The model / non-model system may actually work to their benefit. If the models are too expensive or disinterested in being offed, customers lean towards the next best looking guys in line and off them enthusiastically instead. I’ve certainly seen this in action. 

[jason1975]

JackR, I am Glad to find someone who likes X-Boys as well! And I agree about the good-looking Vietnamese waiters!

[vinapu]

12 hours ago, JackR said:

(I, on the other hand, don't know why everyone doesn't want to come here for these adventures!)

 

you got that right !

[manuelmendez]

Thanks for the info JackR, 

im fan of Tawan bar. kinda i like mature muscular men. otherwise, im quite interested with that airport theme show. look new to me. 

will plan to visit bangkok for this year. not now, bcos of the election. i want to see the election outcome 1st. if everything good, ill do come. 

[Nathan_B]

I too find BBB's now fully clothed boys far from satisfactory. A multitude of sins - such as body hair:) - could be hidden. It seemed only the muscular guys took their shirts off. There were a couple of potential offs last time, but I passed because I couldn't really check them out properly.

They've also removed the proper seating directly in front of the stage and replaced it with small stools so they can cram a few more punters in for the show. Last time I was there, this resulted in a shrieking girl on the front row knocking drinks over behind her, as she recoiled from the fake cum in the big cock show. I had to sit through the rest of the show with beer soaked shorts.