TotallyOz Posted March 6, 2019 Posted March 6, 2019 I met a guy on Hornet that I like but in Pattaya and I'm in Bangkok. His Pattaya rate is 3,000. What rate would be best to bring from Pattaya to Bangkok for overnight? He asked for 8k. LOL Quote
vinapu Posted March 6, 2019 Posted March 6, 2019 3000 long time is very generous for Pattaya but depending on guy's quality not unheard of. If he comes and returns by taxi it will be an additional 2000-2500 , it leaves 2500 premium for inconvenience of travelling and stress of being in unfamiliar city. Offer him 6000 and if he rejects move on or go to Pattaya yourself to see him there, that's my opinion TotallyOz 1 Quote
Guest Posted March 6, 2019 Posted March 6, 2019 I'd have him interview with one of your many friends in Pattaya before taking the plunge for that much. martinsen 1 Quote
spoon Posted March 6, 2019 Posted March 6, 2019 3 hours ago, Michael said: I met a guy on Hornet that I like but in Pattaya and I'm in Bangkok. His Pattaya rate is 3,000. What rate would be best to bring from Pattaya to Bangkok for overnight? He asked for 8k. LOL He might be counting the transport, lost of other customers, and inconveniences to travel into that 8k. Or simply he quoted a high rate coz he dont want to travel unless it is for that much. By right, if u cover travel expenses, and 3 hours of travel time, that is more than generous to me. But hey, if u really feel u want him even for 8k, and the boy really think he can earn that much minus the transport fee if he stays in pattaya, go for 8k. Or find a different boy or go to pattaya hehe. TotallyOz 1 Quote
Guest Posted March 6, 2019 Posted March 6, 2019 3000 is high for Pattaya, although my experience is with twinks & perhaps muscle boys sometimes want more. According to my calculation, the guy can get to Bangkok on the bus for 10 + 120 + 60, which we shall approximate as 200. So total cost of round trip = 400 baht. He can waste his time surfing on his phone during the trip, which is probably exactly what he would be doing if at home in bed. However, if he is paid 4000, that gives him an extra 600 as compensation for the inconvenience of traveling. 100 baht an hour is not a bad rate for sitting on a bus or skytrain in Thailand. With a bit of planning, he can probably spend some time in Bangkok doing whatever he wants to. You would think that should be seen as a bonus too. So by my logic, no more than 4000. He should be happy with that. There are several reasons why this might not work: 1 He may get offed on a daily basis in Pattaya and does not need to go to Bangkok 2 He may be struggling to find customers in Pattaya, but still lacks the aptitude to calculate the cost of travel and price the job correctly, so that he optimizes revenue. 3 If he doesn't know you, he has to price in the risk of you not being there or any other scenario which means he travels to Bangkok & earns nothing. 4 He might genuinely think you are good for 8000. I wouldn't cave in. My guess is a combination of 2 & 3. Quote
reader Posted March 7, 2019 Posted March 7, 2019 Forget the whole transaction. There are too many good guys on offer in the big mango to warrant drawn out negotiations. Never lose sight of the rule: distance lends enchantment. TotallyOz, ChristianPFC, kokopelli and 1 other 4 Quote
Guest Posted March 7, 2019 Posted March 7, 2019 Sometimes the hunt is as important as the catch and then even more rewarding. t0oL1 1 Quote
Guest Posted March 7, 2019 Posted March 7, 2019 How is progress on shipping this boy up to Bangkok ? Quote
TotallyOz Posted March 7, 2019 Author Posted March 7, 2019 1 hour ago, z909 said: How is progress on shipping this boy up to Bangkok ? I don't really like to negotiate. I usually just say yes or no. I have been thinking about this but the boy asked if this rate was too high. I have not responded yet as I needed to think. Quote
hank75 Posted March 7, 2019 Posted March 7, 2019 Michael, what is preventing you from going to Pattaya? The 5K seems better spent on your own transport and hotel stay. And you could have an enjoyable short visit and the chance to sample additional boys. TotallyOz and ChristianPFC 2 Quote
Guest Posted March 7, 2019 Posted March 7, 2019 Good suggestion. Then if you like him you can bring him back to BKK. BL8gPt 1 Quote
Guest Posted March 7, 2019 Posted March 7, 2019 I negotiate, but only if his opening quote is reasonable. 8000 is not. If you like the boy, the idea of going down to Pattaya makes sense. Off him there, pay him a Pattaya long time rate. Then if all goes well, once he knows you, he might just quote a realistic price for coming to Bangkok next time. Trust is a factor. For example, in the UK where there is a shortage of available boys, I wouldn't travel 50 miles out of my way to meet a boy I had never met before, because some of them are unreliable and will not be there. I also wouldn't travel more than 50 miles to look at a used car, as sellers often lie in the ads, or write things without checking the accuracy (e.g.they claim a full service history, but the records show missing services). Anyway, if the boys have encountered unreliable customers, perhaps there will be a limit to what they take on trust. Finally, I like to be seen to be "in control" and not caving in to a boy in any discussions. That seems to produce better results in the bedroom. So if I were going to go to Pattaya to see a boy, I certainly wouldn't want to be seen rushing down there. Leave it at least a week. Quote
TotallyOz Posted March 8, 2019 Author Posted March 8, 2019 The heart wants what the heart wants. I'll let you guys know how this turns out after the weekend. hank75, eurasian and BL8gPt 3 Quote
vinapu Posted March 8, 2019 Posted March 8, 2019 wishing you good luck and waiting impatiently for news how it turned out TotallyOz 1 Quote
hank75 Posted March 8, 2019 Posted March 8, 2019 2 hours ago, Michael said: The heart wants what the heart wants. This should be the official motto of our forum. Delighted for you that you are having one wish granted. BL8gPt and TotallyOz 2 Quote
TotallyOz Posted March 9, 2019 Author Posted March 9, 2019 Overnight just finished. He was on time and very cute. A bit more feminine than I expected. Sex was excellent both last night and this AM. He wanted to swim early this AM which we did. He left my place early as he was meeting a friend in Bangkok this morning. Overall, well worth the money and the rate was the cost of a one-night hotel for me in Pattaya and without the added travel time for me. He said he would come anytime for 2-3 days for the same rate to just let him know. BL8gPt, paulsf and traveller123 3 Quote
hank75 Posted March 9, 2019 Posted March 9, 2019 30 minutes ago, Michael said: Overnight just finished. He was on time and very cute. A bit more feminine than I expected. Sex was excellent both last night and this AM. He wanted to swim early this AM which we did. He left my place early as he was meeting a friend in Bangkok this morning. Overall, well worth the money and the rate was the cost of a one-night hotel for me in Pattaya and without the added travel time for me. He said he would come anytime for 2-3 days for the same rate to just let him know. Could not be more pleased for you Michael. What a guy, came all the way from Pattaya, arrived on time, delivered good sex x2, and seems the liking was mutual with the offer of long-long time. Do we foresee the makings of a regular? TotallyOz 1 Quote
vinapu Posted March 9, 2019 Posted March 9, 2019 1 hour ago, Michael said: Overall, well worth the money this is all what counts TotallyOz and reader 2 Quote
TotallyOz Posted March 9, 2019 Author Posted March 9, 2019 1 hour ago, hank75 said: Could not be more pleased for you Michael. What a guy, came all the way from Pattaya, arrived on time, delivered good sex x2, and seems the liking was mutual with the offer of long-long time. Do we foresee the makings of a regular? I would enjoy seeing him again but seeing on a regular basis is not going to happen. I like more the bad boy types and he was just too sweet. 32 minutes ago, vinapu said: this is all what counts Agree! t0oL1 1 Quote
vinapu Posted March 9, 2019 Posted March 9, 2019 39 minutes ago, Michael said: . I like more the bad boy types and he was just too sweet. You not only one TotallyOz 1 Quote
spoon Posted March 9, 2019 Posted March 9, 2019 Glad you got your money worth. So you end up paying 8k? Since he met with his friends in bangkok, that could also be the reason he wanted a repeat. TotallyOz 1 Quote
TotallyOz Posted March 9, 2019 Author Posted March 9, 2019 1 hour ago, spoon said: Glad you got your money worth. So you end up paying 8k? Since he met with his friends in bangkok, that could also be the reason he wanted a repeat. Yes, I did. Most of the guys have friends in different cities. That did not surprise me. Quote
speedoo1 Posted March 9, 2019 Posted March 9, 2019 @ 8k for a night, no wonder the boy offerred a repeat of 2-3 days - that would make almost 2x monthly salary for average Thai blue collar worker. Quote
TotallyOz Posted March 9, 2019 Author Posted March 9, 2019 3 minutes ago, speedoo1 said: @ 8k for a night, no wonder the boy offerred a repeat of 2-3 days - that would make almost 2x monthly salary for average Thai blue collar worker. Sorry, I wasn't clear. He offered 2-3 days for the 8k total, not per night. colmx and reader 2 Quote
