How crowded is Boyztown and Sunee currently?

[Guest CaptainSwing]

Did he also say why Isaan has so many of them compared to rural areas in other parts of Thailand? Can you ask him please on my behalf. I am very interested.

Would that I could.  Alas, that love-for-the-ages passed its expiration date.

[kokopelli]

Regarding busy gogos I sometimes get frustrated if there is a boy I have the hots for becomes unavailable before I have a chance to call him over. Maybe another customer gets him first, maybe he’s offed or maybe he disappears behind the scenes or exits the bar. If it’s the former I’m jealous particularly if the customer holds the boy’s cock. 

At a bar the other night, a dancer I was keen on was sitting with a farang who, at first, had his tongue down the dancer's mouth and then had the lad's cock down his mouth! Enough to make anyone a bit jealous. 

[hanan]

Yes. Please someone go into a gogo bar (preferably a few, so we have more data points) and report average number of customers.

I can only say that I visited all 3 gay areas in Pattaya-Jomtien Saturday evening and night, and they were all busy. Hard to get a seat in some of the agogos.

[ggobkk]

A few days back, Having just arrived in Pattaya/Jomtien, I took as an assignment to check out Sunnee, Boyztown, and Jomtien and report on what I saw, numbers of boys, number of farangs, etc.

 

I note first, that hanan and I were in the same flight path last night and I agree there was a busy vibe. Except for Good Boys. 4 boys on phones, no customers visible (which is expected due to the lack of lighting in support of activities).

 

Winner boys had 16 boys, maybe ten customers. I bought drinks for two boys, they said business was so-so. Waiting on full on high season. Nice Boys was its usual raucous self. Stage had more than 15 boys and more boys with customers. One farang had 2 in full Nice Boys entertainment mode. I spent time with #12 and Mamasan Mac with drinks. More boys than customers but that’s to our advantage. Plan on going back to off #12. Couldn’t do that last night as I had my assignment.

 

Walked to Boyztown...first thing i I noticed was how bright the new Cafe Royal set up is. Street flooded with light and lots of sound. But no karaoke at BBB across from Panorama and Cupidol as reported by others. Panorama has a For Sale sign posted but business operating.

 

Not a lot of street traffic.

 

Took a look inside of BBB, show had started, place full but not packed, mostly Asian audience, 20 to 30% female. I did not linger as still on assignment.

 

Cupidol - lots of customers and lots of boys. Seemed Twinkier than in the past.

 

Toy Boys was an oasis of gogo craftsmanship. 10 boys on stage. Other boys in and out from the back room. Management makes then deposit their phones while working. Most of the boys looked hand crafted for a masculinity that’s somewhere between twink and muscle god.

 

At this point, my assignment mode went to pause I offed Soph who I’ve offed before and believe to be designed by DaVinci and sculpted by Michaelangelo and porno powered in private. More, maybe, in my trip report when I get home.

 

It was a short time, so to recover, I headed out to Jomtien. Several new bars, two cabaret shows in addition to Venue. Street was packed at the Venue end. Sun Bar was having a party and it and the neighboring bars were overflowing with boys and those who admire them. @Home and the new R Bar were busy as they are across from Sun Bar.

 

Coming from Boyztown and Sunnee, it was a revelation to see so many revelers in one place. LipSynch diva show part of festivities. Drinks and bottles served and passed around. Twice saw motorbike deliveries of ice (10 jumbo bags each time). Didn’t notice any Asian customers.

 

Tired from the festivities and time with Soph, I put away my notebook and went to my hotel. I noticed that the other bars between the Venue end and The Poseidon were busy to sparse with customers. No way as busy as in tonight’s party area.

 

If all goes well, I’ll try to revisit on a non-weekend night before heading to Bangkok.

[hank75]

Fantastic report ggobkk, can’t wait for the next chapter! Particularly enjoyed your description of Soph, I am only surprised he wasn’t the first item on your Pattaya agenda with assets like these.

 

Is it usual to have so many females in Pattaya bars? I was under the impression that only Bangkok bars like Jupiter, Moonlight, Dreamboy etc attracted the Asian female demographic.

[vinapu]

Is it usual to have so many females in Pattaya bars? I was under the impression that only Bangkok bars like Jupiter, Moonlight, Dreamboy etc attracted the Asian female demographic.

In Boyztown bars they are common sight / and a noise / those days. 

 

I'm under impression that those in Bangkok are more generous tippers to boys on the stage

[abidismaili]

I can only say that I visited all 3 gay areas in Pattaya-Jomtien Saturday evening and night, and they were all busy. Hard to get a seat in some of the agogos.

 

Thanks. The is the information I was looking for. I go swap my holidays to high season after March 2019.

[abidismaili]

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And thank you too! My question perfectly answered.

 

I had no idea there are two other cabaret shows in Jomtien, besides The Venue. I can't remember seeing that in October but I was mostly near The Venue area because it is more crowded there than at the Poseidon end of the soi. I do think there is a very small cabaret show opposite Poseidon, I remember seeing that last year,  is that one of the two you mean?

[abidismaili]

 

Is it usual to have so many females in Pattaya bars? I was under the impression that only Bangkok bars like Jupiter, Moonlight, Dreamboy etc attracted the Asian female demographic.

 

For the long time travellers: how often 10 or 20 years ago you saw female cusomters in bars? Is this a recent phenomenon?

 

Second question: if this trend is new and it is because of Asian (Chinese) customers, then why did farang women never go to the gay boy bars, and why do Asian women do it?

[ggobkk]

The two new cabaret shows in Jomtien opened in the last few months. I was there in late August and the shows weren’t. Many new bars, a bbq restaurant, and massive Chinese food and service emporium are newly arrived.

[Jasper]

Second question: if this trend is new and it is because of Asian (Chinese) customers, then why did farang women never go to the gay boy bars, and why do Asian women do it?

I have seen farang female customers in Dreamboys Bkk, Tawan and Jupiter2018. I think you have never seen them because you don’t visit those bars.

At Tawan there was a blonde lady sitting a front seat at chuck wow show and screamed when the boys cum got to her hair. lol

 

When I visited Jupiter this month , a group of 6 farang women

came and Boom was all over the blonde girl of the group.

 

There are also a few regular expat farang female customers in Jupiter.

A few month ago one of the expat farang lady offered homemade chocolate that she made to all the boys and nearby customers.

Unfortunately for her, all the boys were refusing the offer she looked so dissapointed.

[hank75]

The question is, do these farang women off the boys? I know some of the Asian women do. Or are they just one-off giggly tourists?

 

I read an interesting article (on Stickman I believe- will try to find the link) about farang women living the bohemian life on Pattaya beaches and getting pregnant by local boys.

[abidismaili]

How was this 10, 20 years ago? Women frequented the gay bars also back then?

[kokopelli]

I recall some women visiting the boy bars 10 to 20 years ago. Only recall because a friend would leave the bar if there were women present.

[Jasper]

The question is, do these farang women off the boys? I know some of the Asian women do.

Why not? I know they do.

But off rate among farang female are probably lower than Asian girls.

Asian women are more familiar with sex workers in their culture.

Like host clubs in China or Japan, solely for female clients.

 

I have spoken to a Japanese woman in her thirties who speaks good English in Jupiter once. She said she used to visit host club in Japan but since she found Thai gogo bars she doesn’t go to Japanese host bars anymore as it’s much cheaper in Bangkok.

She admitted she has spent fortune on gift to Japanese hosts.

I found it curious is the fact she was a very good looking girl.

 

It was very eye opening conversation.

[abidismaili]

See women visit prostitutes too. I wonder if women fall for the same type of boys as most gay farang. According to one of the polls here the twink lovers among us are in the majority. My guess is women fall more for the muscled men.

[sglad]

How was this 10, 20 years ago? Women frequented the gay bars also back then?

 

They did but back then they were still men.

[hanan]

Niceboys agogo is becoming more and more popular with thai ladyboys. They usually come two and two, enjoy the view and have some boy to sit with them for groping and I have also seen them off boys.

[Tintinx]

30 years ago I enjoyed to visit the famous Adam & Eve club in North Pattaya. There was a large stage for shows and several additional platforms with go-go dancers. Part of the audience were well off members of the local (Thai) gay population of Pattaya, usually sitting in groups and sharing a bottle of whiskey. The facilities included a number of well appointed rooms with a massage table and an extra large bath room, that was used for the world famous body-to-body (soapy) massage. If I remember correctly, there were at least ten of these massage rooms. 

 

Go-go dancers and staff were all male, of course. Women were permitted in the audience (hence the name Adam & Eve), but they had to sit on the upper floor, where they could observe the stage from a balcony. Unfortunately I have no idea how many of them were sitting there (if any), as they were not visible from the main floor!

[paborn]

Thank you. I forgot about this place. It was great fun. A young guy I met there was cute, Amerasian and interesting. He was wearing a star of David - his father was an American Jewish serviceman and his mother a bar girl. He wore the necklace as a remembrance. 

 

Now, before some wit responds about "what's a nice Jewish boy doing in a place like this?" let me tell you he did just fine...

[sglad]

Adam, Eve, David, Pattaya, Sodom & Gomorrah.

 

Now I understand why some people say a visit to Pattaya is akin to a religious experience.

[Londoner]

There are a number of karaoke bars in Pattaya and Bangkok ( and perhaps elsewhere) where Thai guys entertain Thai ladies and are available for offs. Apparently, according to the mamasan of one of these bars whom I know, the guys are, on average, better-looking than the ones we meet. I've seen the photos; stunning. Prices are similar to those of Bangkok bars. The clientele tend to be local women with under-performing husbands, or partners who work abroad.  The mamasan makes a good living.

[vinapu]

I found it curious is the fact she was a very good looking girl.

 

 

quite often I see very good looking guys , both Asian and farang still offing boys from bars and having massages in M2M places even if one would think they can get free sex easily.

 

Perhaps those are believers in old saying that nothing is as expensive as free things?

[vinapu]

Adam, Eve, David, Pattaya, Sodom & Gomorrah.

 

Now I understand why some people say a visit to Pattaya is akin to a religious experience.

you are on the roll today !

[paborn]

There are a number of karaoke bars in Pattaya and Bangkok ( and perhaps elsewhere) where Thai guys entertain Thai ladies and are available for offs. Apparently, according to the mamasan of one of these bars whom I know, the guys are, on average, better-looking than the ones we meet. I've seen the photos; stunning. Prices are similar to those of Bangkok bars. The clientele tend to be local women with under-performing husbands, or partners who work abroad.  The mamasan makes a good living.

Interesting. Do you know any bar names and locations?