Chiang Mai report 2018

[a447a]

I arrived in Chiang Mai around 11 am and was anxious to get to my hotel quickly and take a quick nap. But as I feared, my airport pick-up from the hotel wasn't there. I waited around 30 minutes and then decided to just take a taxi. This is the second time the hotel has forgotten, even though I emailed them the day before to remind them.

 

I didn't have time to sleep as I needed to head over to the Downunder bar near the river to watch the Australian football preliminary final, which featured my home team. As usual I couldn't find a tuk-tuk so returned to the hotel to see if they could arrange transport.

 

"No problem. I call Uber."

 

And 15 minutes and 93 baht later I was sitting in the bar.

 

My team absolutely smashed the opposition - a fitting birthday gift!

 

Then back to the hotel to sleep.

 

When I finally woke up it was time for dinner, but the problem with being out on the edge of town is the lack of restaurants, so I ended up having to go to 7/11 to find something to eat.

 

It was now 9 pm. Time for a quick shower and then to walk across the street to Adams Apple.

 

There were already a few customers sitting on the sofas, drinking. Most of the boys were still dressed and hanging around the bar eating and chatting. I had a quick look to see if I could find a familiar face but to no avail - they were all new.

 

Then I spotted him! It was my old mate Korn! He was sitting at one of the tables slurping noodles.

 

I finally caught his eye, but he looked straight through me and went back to his dinner. But suddenly he looked up again and after a few seconds racking his brain he flashed me a huge smile. He remembered me!

 

So over he came and we started chatting. He then went off to get changed into his "working" clothes so I could admire his beautiful body. He still works out every day and has his six-pack. I put my arm around him and we had a bit of a cuddle. But as far as affection goes, that's basically it - just a cuddle. He's 100% straight.

 

He went off to join the others on stage, which gave me a chance to take a good look at the guys. As expected, they are all manly types, although a couple appeared a little gay in the way they walked around. Who knows? They certainly wouldn't be telling anybody in a bar like Adams Apple.

 

There were about 20 boys in the rotation, most of them very attractive. The bar star is undoubtedly a guy called Mix. He has a gorgeous face, swimmer's body and a huge package. The perfect mix!

 

Unfortunately, he seems to know it and came across as a little arrogant. He tended to ignore the customers and spent a lot of time looking in the mirror. Hopefully, I have misjudged him.

 

I took a seat at the bar, which allowed me to get up up close and personal with the boys who squeezed past me, between the bar and one of the sofas. As they did, they'd stop and say hello and put their hand on my knee. It's the best way to meet the guys. Some sat beside me for a quick chat.

 

The show began at 10:30. The tigerman show, the batman show, the spiderman show, the policeman show, etc, etc. Basically, it was just a thinly disguised big cock show.

 

Korn came out as the policeman. Oh, that cock! It's magnificent!

 

He then stepped down from the stage and walked among the crowd, soliciting tips. He made an absolute fortune, as by now the bar was packed with customers - half Asian and half farang. He came up to me and stuck his cock up my shorts.

 

"You come with me tonight?"

 

"Sure!"

 

A cute guy from Myanmar then came and sat with me. He was all smiles and very touchy-feely. I was in heaven as I put my arm around him and felt his soft, smooth skin. It was like satin. So I pencilled him in.

 

At that moment Spiderman was on stage displaying his substantial assets. The boy turned to me and asked :" You like big cock?"

 

"Umm...yes. "

 

"I not big. I small."

 

Oh..... And with that I immediately pencilled him out.

 

Never mind. As Korn and I left, I gave him a big tip and thanked him.

 

Korn is a "you cum, I go" type of guy but that's ok, as I knew that already. As soon as we got into the room he stripped off and stood in front of me so I could admire him as I sat on the end of the bed. Yep, this is the cock I remember so well!

 

We showered separately - although we could have showered together - and when I came out he was on the bed with his appendage pointing towards the ceiling. I spent some time working on it as he lay there with his eyes closed and then we got down to business.

 

I asked him to go slowly, as even now a big cock is still a little intimidating. So he took his time, asking me if I was ok.

 

He pounded away for a while and then changed positions where we were both lying on our side. He was banging away with his eyes closed, no doubt imagining he was screwing his wife. Lol

 

Back to the missionary position for the finale. He asked if he could cum on my stomach but I told him I wanted my usual finish - a chuck-wow.

 

I recalled some of his rather spectacular cumshots in the past but that was not to be. Never mind.

 

After he finished me off, he cleaned up, got changed and was gone.

 

We promised a repeat performance tonight.

 

Soft drinks 200 baht, beer 280.

[brall3]

You wrote that you went to 7-11 to get something to eat and later walked across the street to Adam's Apple. What hotel are you staying in?

[spoon]

I had one boy who say his cock is small not big, and guess what, in the room, his cock is big and thick too lol. So unless u see it, i wouldnt pencil someout out because of what they say, just in case he is trying to joke around, acting friendly by saying that.

[Boy69]

Sometimes when Thai boys say that their cock is small they mean that they have difficulties to get full erection and not that their cock is actualy small in size.

[hanan]

What is expected short time tip to a boy from Adams apple and how much is the bars off-fee?

[a447a]

I'm at the Lotus Hotel. It's right across from Adams Apple.

 

I was surprised to see that they now have a pool. God knows why they bothered as every time I've stayed here it has had very few guests. I'm obviously here in the low season.

 

The guy at reception is very friendly and helpful. When he calls me an Uber he rushes out into the street to look for them. He's gay but unfortunately, not my type. But as a hotel receptionist, he's perfect.

 

The only downside is that reception closes at 1am, although I'd you call them they'll open the door for you. But I don't like going out with my phone. Still, after my late night fun with Korn I'm in no mood to go out.

 

The room is very spacious and has a large, comfortable bed. Water pressure in the shower is a bit weak, but other than that I'm very satisfied with the the hotel. My room has a balcony overlooking the pool.

 

The off fee is 400 baht. The tip for short time is similar to what you pay in Pattaya. But you can always top it up a bit, as I do.

[witty]

Is Uber still around in Thailand?

If I'm not mistaken, Grab has taken over the ride sharing business in South East Asian countries.

[a447a]

The guy in reception called it 'Uber" but I don't know what it is.

 

Doesn't matter ; the service was impeccable.

[a447a]

Yesterday I decided to try Classic House massage again.

 

On previous occasions I've been disappointed with the number of boys with silicone and mooks, so I lingered outside in the soi wondering whether or not I should take the plunge and enter.

 

As usual my cock made the decision for me.

 

As I sat down to remove my shoes a very handsome hunk of a guy came and sat next to me. He flashed me that smile and I was smitten. He's mine!

 

But before choosing him I made my requirements known to the manager who suddenly appeared holding the menu.

 

I told him I was looking for a guy who could top of bottom - these days it doesn't matter - big cock, no silicone and no mooks. I learnt over and quietly and him if the guy next to me fitted the bill.

 

"Sure. No probrem. He good for you."

 

The room upstairs is very basic - just a mattress on the floor. But that's ok, as I'm not there for the decor. The room was nice and bright, which suits me as there is nothing worse than a massage in the dark, although I can understand why the boys might prefer it that way!

 

He removed his briefs and off we went. Unfortunately, I didn't get a chance to Lol at the goods as I was face-down on my stomach. I just hope the manager was truthful.

 

Most of the time was spend on, and between, my buttcheeks. At one stage I thought he was going to insert a finger. But he didn't.

 

Half an hour had passed and I was getting a bit anxious. Usually by that time the masseur has rubbed his hard-on on my butt. Am I only going to get a hand job??

 

Suddenly I felt it against my back as he sat on me to massage my shoulders. He then quickly put it between my legs and started thrusting. Hallelujah!

 

When I turned over his cock was just inches from my face. It wasn't huge, but more than adequate for the task. He obviously wanted me to samoke him and I happily obliged. It was like an iron bar.

 

I never cease to be amazed at how the guys are able to get so hard when faced with someone for whom they have no physical attraction at all. Incredible.

 

Time for the main event. And he was wonderful! After banging away relentlessly he collapsed on top of me with exhaustion. I thought that was it but he then asked me if I wanted more.

 

Is the Pope a catholic?

 

So he turned me over and off he went again, doggy style.

 

Chuck-wow time. There was no spectacular cumshot, but he produced a veritable tsunami of cum.

 

"I not cum for three days."

 

"Three days or three months?"

 

Jesus!

 

I'll be seeing him today.

 

I arrived at Adams Apple just as the guys were appearing on stage. There were a couple of guys I hadn't seen before, including a rather young -looking Mr M. He was obviously new to the game as he looked very self-conscious and a little awkward, not really knowing exactly what to do. The manager told me it was his first night, so he was understandably nervous.

 

Mr Cutie from Myanmar came over immediately and gave me a hug and some of the other guys who ignored me the previous night also came over to say hello. Having offed Korn I guess they knew I was not just there to look.

 

Towards the end of the night Mr Cutie came over and got up close and personal. He was drunk so now was my time to grope down below to get some idea of his assets. But that didn't seem to be the right thing to do. And besides, it's not that kind of bar.

 

One guy, Ball, who I had admired in the big cock show came and sat with me. What a lovely guy! I think I might off him tonight.

 

Everything was going well up until the manager appeared with a huge bottle of whisky. I wondered why all the boys had suddenly broken out into applause - it was for them.

 

Oh, dear. This is probably not going to end well. By the end of the evening none of the boys will be able to perform. I had visions of Eros when the boys get drunk after a customer has opened a bottle and they all end up sound asleep on the sofa.

 

But to their credit, most of the guys drank responsibly and only two ended up on the sofa. Mr Cutie overdid it a bit, as he was playing drinking games with a couple of the boys of the sofa in front of me. He would have definitely been out of action.

 

But at the end of the day, these are all young guys who love to party - didn't we all at that age? So I don't blame them. And Korn was only mildly affected and was still able to perform.

 

So it looks like I've been able to establish my routine in just 2 days - a massage at Classic and later, Adams Apple.

[ggobkk]

Thanks for your reports. I always find something new (for me) in them.

[Londoner]

I'm fascinated by a447a's posts so I hope he can help me with this. I ask in the spirit of genuine enquiry, not wishing to offend but bewildered and intrigued by some responses to sexual activity.

 

When one  of of us posts about enjoying sex with a guy who is ostentatiously not gay and achieves erection/orgasm by looking at straight porn (or, as in a447a's  report) thinking about his wife back home...is this in itself erotic for the falang? If the guy was gay and enjoyed what he was doing, would it detract from the falang's pleasure? 

 

There are of course, young Thai men who actually enjoy sex with older guys- I've met a number of them In Babylon, Sansuk and House of Male over they years. If a447 were to offered the services of one such guy in a massage parlour would he prefer to choose someone different?

[a447a]

I'm a realist. I know there's no way the boys will find me sexually attractive so I don't care how they get it up, as long as they can satisfy me in bed.

 

I actually think it would be harder for a gay guy to have sex with an old farang, as we gays tend to place a lot of emphasis on appearance, more so than straight guys imho. Looking at me would be a turn-off, I would think. I'm not being harsh on myself; I'm just facing facts.

 

I can choose a guy who is attractive to me but the working boy doesn't have that option. To be honest I think being a money boy catering to old farang would be a horrible job. Maybe subconsciously that is why I tend to pay a bit more then the going rate.

 

Apart from the time we get embarrassing hard-on for no apparent reason - the bane of every teenager - we need sexual stimulation to get it up. Yet these guys can get hard when they're is a total absence of sexual excitement. Amazing! That's a talent worth paying for.

 

Having said that, the guys do get sexual pleasure from the encounter, as they can pretend they are having sex with a beautiful girl or a hot young guy. Also, they get to cum, and that's always pleasurable.

 

I have certain types that I find physically attractive so in a massage place I just use this criteria. If the guy I chose happens to enjoy sex with older guys, that's ok and would probably make for fun times but that would have no bearing whatsoever on who I chose.

[paborn]

I actually think it would be harder for a gay guy to have sex with an old farang, as we gays tend to place a lot of emphasis on appearance, more so than straight guys imho. Looking at me would be a turn-off, I would think. I'm not being harsh on myself; I'm just facing facts.

 

Bingo!   I could not agree more. The gay boy being into men has a high bar to achieve satisfaction. I know it is counter-intuitive. But the straight boy having decided to perform certain acts for pay is already over a huge hurdle. Now it comes down to kindness, decent hygiene, etc. I'm, sadly, past my prime top years but if I can pleasure him, pay him well and treat him with respect I find my company in demand.

[brall3]

BRAVO BRAVO BRAVO!!!!

 

I applaud you for your words. Keep up the good works.

 

"I'm a realist. ••• I don't care how they get it up, as long as they can satisfy me in bed"

[Londoner]

Thanks for that. But one question remains unanswered;. Regulars at Thai saunas know that, occasionally, a good-looking young guy will initiate sex with an older falang. It has even happened a few times in London saunas when I've met Asian guys.  Very occasionally, sadly!

I find such encounters more enjoyable than commercial ones because the choice is his, not mine. There are plenty of studies explaining cultural issues which lead some ( a few?) Asians to prefer sex with older men.

 

I wonder if a447a frequents Thai saunas? If he were to meet such guys as I have, would he appreciate, even prefer, such encounters? Or is the commercial aspect an end in itself?

[a447a]

I wonder if a447a frequents Thai saunas? If he were to meet such guys as I have, would he appreciate, even prefer, such encounters? Or is the commercial aspect an end in itself?

No, I haven't been to a Thai sauna but I've been to a some in Europe, 24 Kaikan in Japan, Otot -Otot in KL a few times and also to the sauna at Arthur and Paul Hotel in Phnom Pehn.

 

The only times I recall getting free sex were once in Japan and twice at Arthur and Paul's sauna, One guy took me into a room where I fucked him, and the other guy I met in the steam room, although I don't think he was particularly into older guys. I just remember seeing him at the pool wandering around all afternoon with a hard-on and the reason he approached me was no doubt because he was just so horny and needed to get off.

 

The self-esteem of some of us older guys sometimes takes a bit of a battering as we are no longer considered attractive, so I'd certainly welcome such an approach. But I never go into a sauna expecting it.

 

And in some ways, the commercial side of things is an end in itself. I know how to play the game and enjoy doing so. And it is through commercial sex that I've met some wonderful guys who have become regulars. With them it is more than just sex - we hang out together and have gotten to know each other well. Somehow I don't think the same relationship could develop so easily with a guy I met in a sauna.

[a447a]

Yesterday was one of those days best forgotten - everything that could go wrong did.

 

I arrived at Classic House massage at the appointed time for another round with the gorgeous masseur from the previous day. I expected him to be waiting - silly old me - but he was nowhere to be seen.

 

"He upstairs with customer. Can you wait? Only 30 minutes."

 

Thirty minutes?? That means he's just starting the fun part of the massage. He'd be useless. So I took the manager's suggestion and decided to choose someone else.

 

I sat down inside and was presented with the line-up of around 10 guys. I hate this. It's so embarrassing for me and the guys must find it a bit humiliating. So I had a quick look and chose the one and only handsome guy with the beautiful smile.

 

With everyone standing around I couldn't bring myself to ask what the guy would do in the room. I went to the reception counter and quietly asked if his cock was "original." I was assured it was. In an even lower voice I asked if the guy could fuck me. So he called out to the guy in a loud voice, in front of everyone, asking him in Thai is he would fuck me!

 

How embarrassing!

 

The massage was basically the same as the previous day - they must have a set routine. It started off with him going straight to the buttcrack. I didn't know if he'd removed his shorts but soon find out when he placed his balls on my foot. Yep, he was definitely naked!

 

When he got to the shoulder massage he sat beside me and I got my first look at his equipment. Although it was quite dark I could see that it wasn't huge, but more than adequate. I took it as an invitation to go for the grope so I cupped his balls in my hand. With that he immediately gave up on my shoulder, removed my hand and started massaging it.

 

So, groping is out. Keep your hand off it. That was the clear message. Oh, dear! This is not looking good.

 

In my experience at massage places, the guy is usually hard when he asks you to turn over on your back, but not this guy. There it was, dangling in the dark.

 

I was also unhappy that it was too dark to see his handsome face. Also, the massage took place in absolute silence. I tried to engage him in conversation but only got cursory replies. I wondered if I should just call and end to it all and chalk it up to experience.

 

Suddenly, he started playing with himself, got hard and put on a condom. At last! All was not lost. Without a word he slipped it in and off he went.

 

The whole affair was very mechanical and emotionless. He banged away for quite a while until I decided to end it and start the chuck-wow.

 

He lay beside me and for the first time I actually got to see his cock close up. Mmmm...not bad. Shame I had to wait 50 minutes.

 

He came quicky, finished me off and that was it. And barely a word had been spoken the entire time. It was an eerie experience.

 

Was this the same guy I'd found so attractive an hour earlier? The one who had looked so eager? And does he have a personality?

 

As I was putting my shoes on, my guy from the other day came and sat with me. He apologised for taking another customer instead of waiting for me. I assured him it was all good. Business is business and I wouldn't be the first farang to promise to come back tomorrow but not show up. So I would have done the same. A bird in the hand, so to speak.

 

If I tell someone I'm going to do something, I do it. No ifs or buts. I'll be there at the appointed time come hell or high water. (On one occasion in Pattaya I'd broken my foot but still managed to hobble over to Sunee from Boyztown, as I'd promised to meet up with Tom from All of Me.) But, of course, he wasn't to know that. No harm done. I told him I'd be back at 5pm today.

 

I decided to head off to Adams Apple after 9:30, as I didn't want to be the only customer in the bar.

 

But I was. When I walked in three guys were lying on the sofas playing with their phones and a couple were standing around. Where's Korn?? Are these the only guys who have turned up for work? Things were supposed to start at 9:30 but the place was dead. Then one other customer walked in and sat in front of me. Thank God!

 

I ordered a drink and sat on the sofa waiting for things to happen. I then went downstairs to the smoking room and saw three guys, including the very attractive Mr T, sitting there chatting. He is absolutely covered in tattoos which he proudly showed off to me. The other two guys ignored me, engrossed in their phones.

 

I went back to my seat, only to find the other customer sitting with his arm around a guy. OMG! He was sitting with Korn! Well, that's the end of that.

 

And it was. They sat together the entire time I was there and the customer was obviously a regular in the bar. Korn came over for a quick chat and told me the guy was his friend and that he'd be sitting with him tonight. I assured him it wasn't a problem. As I said, business is business. Grab it while you can.

 

I had my eye on Ball. We'd gotten up close and personal at the bar the previous night but tonight, apart from acknowledging my presence with a smile he didn't come near me. Maybe he was miffed that I'd offed Korn instead of him. Who knows?

 

Adams Apple reminds me a lot of Golden Cock, where the boys prefer to socialise with each other rather than actively engage with the customers. It's a kind of boys club. You have to turn up regularly over a period of time before you actually get to know the guys and they feel comfortable with you. The three other customers were also left sitting alone.

 

Enough! This is ridiculous! So instead of waiting for the show to end I decided to wander over the Circle Pub. I have only been there once and was the only customer so I didn't have high hopes, especially as it was Monday night.

 

I brushed past a group of guys gathered at the entrance and went inside, only to find they actually had customers! Lots of them!

 

I was seated right at the front, next to a large group of young, hot Chinese guys. The guy sitting just a chair away from me was absolutely gorgeous! He'd been drinking and was fooling around, at one stage kneeling on the chair pretending to invitie his friends to fuck him doggy style. And they're was one other stunner who I managed to get glimpses of every now and then. Finally, I'm getting some joy. I felt a stirring down below.

 

The show began at 11:30 - enough time for a cigarette, so I went outside and stood near the group of guys. I. had a quick look at the talent and managed to spot one very, very cute guy so went and stood a metre or so away from him. Within seconds he came over and started talking. I didn't know if he was a customer of a waiter - it turns out he was the latter, as were all the other guys. How come they're not inside working?

 

At first I actually thought he was a schoolboy, dressed as he was in black trousers, white shirt and tie. He told me they were all drinking and showed me a the little cup he was holding and pointing to a bottle of cheap Thai whisky. He offered me a drink and insisted when I politely refused. I took one sniff and almost passed out from the fumes! He said I had to down it in one go so I held my nose and swallowed it. OMG! This is what you get from a 100 baht bottle of cheap grog. A got a round of applause and, more importantly, a little cuddle and a huge smile from the cutie. Heaven! It was worth it afterall. And I think I've found my off for the night!

 

Inside for the show. It soon became apparent that I should have stayed outside. Apart from one disastrous show at Eros, where even the boys were laughing with embarrassment, this had to be the worst show I've ever seen. Truly appalling.

 

I'd heard that their show featured a bit of cock but I barely saw any skin, let alone cock.

 

The first act was three guys dancing fully clothed. Then the 7 gogo boys walked onto the stage, then quickly off into the darkness. This was followed by a hot stripper, dancing around to raunchy music. Now you're talking! But it's the first strip show I've ever seen where the stripper didn't remove his clothes, unless you call unzipping your jeans to show a wisp of pubic hair "stripping."

 

A ladyboy then appeared singing in Chinese - appropriate, given the make up of the audience. But horror of horrors, she had her tits out!

 

What on earth is the management thinking? Do they really believe that gays want to see tits? Do they have a big cock show in lesbian bars?? Sheer madness.

 

So I turned my attention to the hot Chinese guy and suddenly realised I'd see more skin with him than in the entire show -he was wearing a singlet and a pair of shorts.

 

Another "stripper" came out, sat on a chair and rubbed his chest with a towel. He didn't even bother to unzip his jeans. What a fucking joke!

 

I hung in until the end of the show - you live in hope - and then went outside. The guys were still there but by now the cutie was quite drunk. He insisted that he'd only had 5 drinks, but that is what he'd told me at the beginning. To my utter delight he was now very touchy-feely, hugging me and kissing me on the cheek. I happily reciprocated.

 

By now the bottle was empty and he asked me if I could buy another bottle.

 

Sure. No probrem.

 

So I handed him 100 baht and was rewarded with even more affection. I felt another stirring down below.

 

He was after an off. He grabbed his crotch and told me that he only gets hard when he's drunk; he can't get it up when he's sober. Yeah, right!

 

Suddenly, I had a bit of a panic attack. How was this guy getting home? Not on a motorcycle, surely. I was horrified when he told me he was.

 

What have I done? I'd just given him money to buy another bottle. Why hadn't I thought about that beforehand? I felt terrible. What do I do? I can hardly ask for the money back, so I offered him 200 baht for a tuk-tuk but he refused to take it, insisting he was fine. I hope his friends had the sense not to let him ride home.

 

If last night was any indication, I think I might give Adams Apple a miss tonight and see if I can catch the cutie before he starts drinking. If not, then I'll be happy to leave Chiang Mai.

 

I have my friend waiting for me in Pattaya on Thursday.

[Boy69]

3 years ago I had been in Chiang Mai, I enjoyed the tourist attractions very much but the gay scene there was completely disaster.

[vinapu]

 

 I took it as an invitation to go for the grope so I cupped his balls in my hand. With that he immediately gave up on my shoulder, removed my hand and started massaging it.

 

So, groping is out. Keep your hand off it. That was the clear message. Oh, dear! This is not looking good.

 

perhaps  masseur preferred to separate completely massage from fun part , I had that on more than one occasion. Curiously ,   almost always ir was case  of very good massage followed with even better  fun part.

 

So it may be some method in such madness if guy is taking his duties seriously. 

[brall3]

"Do they really believe that gays want to see tits? Do they have a big cock show in lesbian bars?? Sheer madness."

 

After reading this I laughed so hard that tears came to my eyes. THANK YOU!!! I shared your comment with others and they also had a good laugh.

 

Thanks again for making my and others day a funny one.

[Terry4]

Melbourne vs South Sydney?

[paborn]

Melbourne vs South Sydney?

I'm sorry, what?

[paborn]

"Do they really believe that gays want to see tits? Do they have a big cock show in lesbian bars?? Sheer madness."

 

After reading this I laughed so hard that tears came to my eyes. THANK YOU!!! I shared your comment with others and they also had a good laugh.

 

Thanks again for making my and others day a funny one.

I have never understood this. I get that some people both Gay and straight go for Lady Boys - but there are places that cater to that. Why so many Thai places have lip-synching Ladyboys is beyond me. Personally, I leave.

[spoon]

I for one dont mind the ladyboy lipsync, especially when its done tastefully and a lot of time, its downright comedy too. But i do draw the line at then showing tits lol. A ladyboy showing her big cock is just confusing to me too haha

[vinapu]

for me ladyboy lipsync is part and parcel of visiting Thai bar with show experience so I suffer silently  with dignity    through all motions and corresponding noise and sometimes if I like what I see I tip those performers all the same I tip boys I like on the stage