hanan Posted September 8, 2018 Posted September 8, 2018 Apparently there was a big police raid in Jomtien complex Saturday evening. I was not there but heard about it from some boys. Police checked the bars for foreign workers and pee-tests for drugs. Anyone knows more details of problems for any bar or other things? I can't imagening any bar in the complex having cambodians working there though. Quote
Buang66 Posted September 9, 2018 Posted September 9, 2018 There is s lot of Cambodian's working there. Quote
Terry4 Posted September 10, 2018 Posted September 10, 2018 I personally can only say I think its a good thing that Police are looking for foreigners working in bars eg Cambodian, Lao etc. One farang owned bar I went into seemed to have all Cambodian boys working there. One boy I sat with had no grasp of English or even Thai. Ironically another farang bar owner who had only Thai boys working for him told me he secretely welcomes the raid. And I must say I do too, if its done correctly and not just because some bar owner didnt make a payment. Quote
Terry4 Posted September 10, 2018 Posted September 10, 2018 I will add too that I do believe other bar owners " dob" each other in , however I am not saying it happened in this case. Obviously there was some " intelligence" that certain bars , apparently they raided 2, had more foreign boys employed. Why do they take this risk? If they are willing to risk foreign boys, then why not havd African or Filipino which im sure would be more popular than Cambodian. Quote
kokopelli Posted September 10, 2018 Posted September 10, 2018 Why do they take this risk? If they are willing to risk foreign boys, then why not havd African or Filipino which im sure would be more popular than Cambodian. You may be sure, but not so sure about others being sure. Quote
kokopelli Posted September 10, 2018 Posted September 10, 2018 I personally can only say I think its a good thing that Police are looking for foreigners working in bars eg Cambodian, Lao etc. What is good about having police raid these places? I can't think of any reason just because they are not Thais. vinapu and paborn 2 Quote
Popular Post paborn Posted September 10, 2018 Popular Post Posted September 10, 2018 I will add too that I do believe other bar owners " dob" each other in , however I am not saying it happened in this case. Obviously there was some " intelligence" that certain bars , apparently they raided 2, had more foreign boys employed. Why do they take this risk? If they are willing to risk foreign boys, then why not havd African or Filipino which im sure would be more popular than Cambodian. Terry, I await others who live there and have more pertinent intel to fill in. But: 1. The Thai economy is going fairly well. It is, I believe, getting harder to recruit Thai workers. Sort of like the situation in the US. The actual truth is Latin American immigrants do work others don't. Laos and Cambodia are much poorer. 2. This one threw me. "If they are willing to risk foreign boys, then why not have African or Filipino which im sure would be more popular than Cambodian." REALLY? Do you think I fly to Thailand from South Florida ( about 30 hours door to door ) for African types? We could all go to Manila if we wanted. I go to Thailand because of the availability of Asian boys - Many here adore Cambodians. Personally, I fall for the Vietnamese head over heals. In all deference and politeness, everyone has their own type and I never make comments. But this took my breath away coming on THIS board. Jasper, faranglaw, vinapu and 2 others 5 Quote
vinapu Posted September 10, 2018 Posted September 10, 2018 I personally can only say I think its a good thing that Police are looking for foreigners working in bars eg Cambodian, Lao etc. Welcome to the forum and it's very bad that right away I need to disagree with you. Don't Cambodian and Lao boys have eyes or in fact dicks? If you tickle them they laugh the same like us and if you pinch them , they scream all the same. I understand your position if you are Thai and you believe than foreigners are taking your jobs, just the same Amerians, Germans, South Africans or even Turkmen or Tajik believe but if you are farang what your beef with foreign boys is ?. Lao and Cambodians don't even look different than Thais and their cocks taste all the same. In fact in my opinion Cambodians usually speak much better English than Thai boys. I will add too that I do believe other bar owners " dob" each other in , however I am not saying it happened in this case. Obviously there was some " intelligence" that certain bars , apparently they raided 2, had more foreign boys employed. Why do they take this risk? It's owners problems how they decide to run their businesses, what risks they are taking and whim they snitching on. We are just customers and bystanders and should be glad they staff their bars with boys , best they can. Only reason to justify those raids would be to prevent human trafficking but I doubt it's a case , I'm yet to see foreign boy who did not have his passport on him which wouldn't be a case if he was enslaved way many foreign workers in the Gulf are. Don't get discouraged by opposite views and stay in the forum but remember that illegal foreign workers and gays in many countries are still classified the same alltogether - unwelcome addition to a healthy body of nation so we swim in the same swamp. paborn, Vessey, faranglaw and 1 other 4 Quote
Popular Post Jasper Posted September 10, 2018 Popular Post Posted September 10, 2018 I personally can only say I think its a good thing that Police are looking for foreigners working in bars eg Cambodian, Lao etc. One farang owned bar I went into seemed to have all Cambodian boys working there. One boy I sat with had no grasp of English or even Thai. Ironically another farang bar owner who had only Thai boys working for him told me he secretely welcomes the raid. And I must say I do too, if its done correctly and not just because some bar owner didnt make a payment. I totally disagree. If Cambodian and Lao to be banned there would be fewer choices in the gogo bars for most of us. Would you like to go to the bar only to see 10 boys ? Of course not. Most of us like Thai boys AND boys from neighboring countries. As paborn pointed out Thai economy is only getting stronger, there would be fewer Thai boys would consider working in the industry. There would be the end of gogo bars if foreigners were to be banned. I wonder any of us would choose only Thai boys. Would you call a gorgeous hot guy from the stage but return him when you find out he is a Cambodian? And personality I found Lao, Cambodian and Vietnamese speak better English than many Thai boys. kokopelli, Vessey, vinapu and 2 others 5 Quote
Terry4 Posted September 10, 2018 Posted September 10, 2018 It does seem a selfish way of looking at it Jasper. Quote
Vessey Posted September 11, 2018 Posted September 11, 2018 The most popular, well certainly the busiest of the bars in the Complex have a high proportion of Cambodian and Laos boys, indeed one is almost 100 % Camboidian and with a Cambodian boss. I was sitting in a well known bar in Boyztown with another Board member just over a week ago when there was a police raid - seven or eight non Thai boys carted off. I believe the boss duly paid-up and they were back there on stage a couple of days later. It seems like its only a problem for the boys themselves if the bar/shop owner refuses to pay. A Cambodian boy I know at Scandic Massage knows what the usual fine will be if he is, by chance, picked up - and he keeps that amount available at all times just in case. Regularly the ladboys of Beach Road are rounded up in a show raid - again they are used to it and know what the 'fine' will be for a quick, quick release. Like vinapu - I look at the boy and if I like him and we show some 'connection' then Bingo! - only later might I ask out of curiosity if they are Thai or not; their country of origin never has been a determining factor in whether or not I want to off them or not. I wont comment further on these police raids other than to say that their true purpose seems to me self-evident. vinapu, kokopelli, reader and 1 other 4 Quote
vinapu Posted September 11, 2018 Posted September 11, 2018 Like vinapu - I look at the boy and if I like him and we show some 'connection' then Bingo! - only later might I ask out of curiosity if they are Thai or not; their country of origin never has been a determining factor in whether or not I want to off them or not. but if somehow we are forced to compartmentlize* our choices I will be opting for Lao boys , for some reason I have always good luck with them ( and they with me I add shamelessly as I don't believe in ties between boys tip and minimum wage) * I just invented that word for a purpose of my post Quote
paborn Posted September 11, 2018 Posted September 11, 2018 I always ask where they're from - not selecting based on nationality. Just nosy. ChristianPFC 1 Quote
BL8gPt Posted September 11, 2018 Posted September 11, 2018 Not all non Thai boys are illegally in Thailand. I know two or three who return home regularly to renew their visas. There must be others. Quote
hanan Posted September 11, 2018 Author Posted September 11, 2018 Not all non Thai boys are illegally in Thailand. I know two or three who return home regularly to renew their visas. There must be others. That's not the issue. The issue is foreign boys who work illegally in bars in Thailand. They do not have permits to work in Thailand. ChristianPFC 1 Quote
newalaan Posted September 11, 2018 Posted September 11, 2018 Not all non Thai boys are illegally in Thailand. I know two or three who return home regularly to renew their visas. There must be others. There are definitely others. All the Cambodian boys I know in Sunee do a return home visit regularly when they need a 'visa run'. In June when I visited one bar had very few of their regular lads the first night I was there. All the Cambodian lads had returned home both to help with harvest and at the same time renew their visas. They were only back home for about seven days all told. Quote
Terry4 Posted September 11, 2018 Posted September 11, 2018 And may I ask what kind of visa they are on? Quote