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[ChristianPFC]

Ended up at Screwboys (on Patpong) last night - it was my first time there and it is a really impressive place. Much of it to be liked - generally reasonable prices, helpful non-pushy staff persons, and a wonderful assortment of guys. 

 

There were enough customers there so I did not feel as though all eyes were on me alone (which is cool) but not so crowded as to make the place uncomfortable. I put myself in the mindset of who would I have picked had I just walked into a massage place. One young gentleman did the whole eye contact/smile thing with me (which I really appreciate) so I gestured him over and took him off.

 

But, well, all was not, alas, perfect. He was generally younger than I usually go for (but it fit my mood at the time)... Vietnamese guy (claimed to have been in BKK for 3 weeks), with minimal English, and sketchy command of Thai. But he had such a sweet face and disposition, and smooth, flawless skin ... yet, the "carnal" segment of the evening just was NOT good.... as in NOT GOOD AT ALL... he clearly does not want to be doing what he is doing to earn money, he tried to fake it, but really could not.

Sounds like the boy I had sit with me in June. The only one on stage who did smile at me, several times. So I called him over for a chat (no drink), but that chat was indifferent, so I tipped him 100 THB and sent him back to stage. I can't describe him any better than Vietnames, speaks some English, tall, pale skin, no tattoos. Does that description fit your boy?

 

Would you share how much you tipped, or what tip expectation was quoted?

 

There were some gorgeous Vietnamese boys in Screwboys in June, and if they were Thai boys at Pattaya prices I would take several of them (separately), but I have to make some calculations:

communication problems (if I take a Thai boy I can talk in Thai with him);

high tip expectations (1500 or 2000 ? THB in Screwboys vs. 1000 THB in Pattaya gogo bars or in Bangkok online);

high chance of failure (multiple reports of poor performance on the forums, own negative experiences).

 

When I took boys from Saranrom years ago, there was a failure rate of over 50% (i.e. I would not take the boy again, and even advice friends that he is useless in bed). But the amount of time and money (500 THB for short time, plus 200 for short-time hotel) invested was low enough to make it worthwhile.

[vinapu]

while logic and calculations above are correct there's always danger then all that numbers crunching may convert into kill joy.

 

What is workable solution for residents or long time vacationers may be time wasting exercise for those  on short 1-2 weeks 'assignement' like me so we always are in danger of rushing selection and it may come at cost of inflated tip paid to under-performing local talent.

 

It's why usually when facing a choice between me unhappy because of inflated tip and boy happy because this idiot vinapu overpaid him I side with the smart side and let idiot pay.

 

But  under-performing  boys  should be tactfully informed than we are unhappy, not necessarily by reducing compensation. I found that plain statement at departure ' you too expensive', ' no taxi money , I already got plenty', 'I don't like you going already but if you must go , just go' etc  are either leading to improved performance next time or at least to lack of smile  at next bar visit which absolves me from  even considering repeat. 

[Guest]

Vinapu, your advice is one of the options for boys who have made an honest effort, although not entirely to your satisfaction.   I also pay up in such circumstances, although possibly minimum tip.

 

Some of the Vietnamese lads in Bangkok have no intention of providing service, so that's a different scenario.

Reward their little scam with a proper tip and they have won.  They can remain in business for the next customer.  

 

 

For the good of society, we should not go around rewarding such behaviour.   

If no one tipped them, they would simply have to play fair & offer some service or sod off and earn an honest living doing something else.    That is the choice they should have to make. 

[nynakedtop]

Sounds like the boy I had sit with me in June. The only one on stage who did smile at me, several times. So I called him over for a chat (no drink), but that chat was indifferent, so I tipped him 100 THB and sent him back to stage. I can't describe him any better than Vietnames, speaks some English, tall, pale skin, no tattoos. Does that description fit your boy?

 

Would you share how much you tipped, or what tip expectation was quoted?

 

There were some gorgeous Vietnamese boys in Screwboys in June, and if they were Thai boys at Pattaya prices I would take several of them (separately), but I have to make some calculations:

communication problems (if I take a Thai boy I can talk in Thai with him);

high tip expectations (1500 or 2000 ? THB in Screwboys vs. 1000 THB in Pattaya gogo bars or in Bangkok online);

high chance of failure (multiple reports of poor performance on the forums, own negative experiences).

 

When I took boys from Saranrom years ago, there was a failure rate of over 50% (i.e. I would not take the boy again, and even advice friends that he is useless in bed). But the amount of time and money (500 THB for short time, plus 200 for short-time hotel) invested was low enough to make it worthwhile.

While I am responding specifically to ChristianPFC because he posed direct questions, I am also writing in response to issues other guys have put out here.

 

"My" Viet guy was also the only one of the boys there that night who made a real effort at eye contact, bit he was not tall... very young looking (younger looking than I usually like), tattoo-free, smooth skin, bit of a "cereal bowl" haircut, very fresh faced guy named Minh (I believe #26)... told me from Hanoi.... Just as sweet as a button, and performs just about as well. No to get too explicit, but I have never had someone insist on a condom in order for him to receive oral. (Ugh...)

 

The mamasan told me the expected tip was 2000 and that is what I, unfortunately, gave him.... and you do not have to admonish me for having done so... I have been beating myself up for it for days now. You see, I am a teacher.... I work with teenagers... and I just could not bring myself to not help him out. My bad.

 

So I will certainly try not to repeat my error, but I am kind of surprised by what's been going on this trip. Lots of guys approaching me on apps for 1000B "massages" which are really just quick rub-and-tug sessions (not very satisfying)... I may stick to massage places where there is, at least to me, more of a chance to feel a connection.

 

(My saga at Scandic in Boyztown soon to come...)

 

Love all of you!

[vinapu]

 

The mamasan told me the expected tip was 2000

 

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Lots of guys approaching me on apps for 1000B "massages" which are really just quick rub-and-tug sessions (not very satisfying)... I may stick to massage places where there is, at least to me, more of a chance to feel a connection.

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(My saga at Scandic in Boyztown soon to come...)

 

Love all of you!

while I generally get along with mamasans I keep contact with them to bare minimum  and never ask them what I should give to a boy, I rather get that number  from boy himself.

 

Unfortunately sometimes they inflate tip quotation and get a share of the spoils from boy.

 

This is general comment not specifically related to Screwboys mamasans who were very helpful  to me on few occasions.

*****

 

that the advantage of visiting massages or bars - one gets a chance to look boy into an eye  , not even to mention  glimpse of his bulge if any. Costs more but as you said, better chance to make a connection.

*****

 

if you tell us what happened at Scandic we will love you even more, LOL 

[nynakedtop]

while I generally get along with mamasans I keep contact with them to bare minimum  and never ask them what I should give to a boy, I rather get that number  from boy himself.

 

Unfortunately sometimes they inflate tip quotation and get a share of the spoils from boy.

 

This is general comment not specifically related to Screwboys mamasans who were very helpful  to me on few occasions.

*****

 

that the advantage of visiting massages or bars - one gets a chance to look boy into an eye  , not even to mention  glimpse of his bulge if any. Costs more but as you said, better chance to make a connection.

*****

 

if you tell us what happened at Scandic we will love you even more, LOL 

since this thread deviated long ago from the topic of RentMen, i started a one about Scandic... check it out there, ,my friend

[vinapu]

I started a one about Scandic... check it out there, ,my friend

you have a good heart !

[ay709394]

I had a few good experiences with Vietnam boys, but not from the bar, I found them via apps.

[ChristianPFC]

"My" Viet guy was also the only one of the boys there that night who made a real effort at eye contact, bit he was not tall... very young looking (younger looking than I usually like), tattoo-free, smooth skin, bit of a "cereal bowl" haircut, very fresh faced guy named Minh (I believe #26)... told me from Hanoi.... Just as sweet as a button, and performs just about as well. No to get too explicit, but I have never had someone insist on a condom in order for him to receive oral. (Ugh...)

I checked my notes and my blog https://christianpfc.blogspot.com/2018/06/gay-activities-jun-2018-thailand.html and found:

 

#29 is constantly smiling at me, and even though he is Vietnamese (info from Mamasan), I invite him for a chat. English okay, has been here for 2 week, but when sitting and chatting rather indifferent.

I didn't ask for name or didn't remember name. Looked young (18?). There is a good chance we are talking about the same boy.