Boy69 Posted July 11, 2018 Posted July 11, 2018 with all that doom and gloom I wonder why I still have so much fun there Pattaya is still fun place to be but years ago it was much vibrant place all the bars were packed every night, much more attractive boys eager to please customers ,the shows were more entertaining and professional ,and the beaches were packed with many freelance boys .Sadly those days are over . Quote
fedssocr Posted July 11, 2018 Posted July 11, 2018 thanks for the news. Almost makes me want to go back to Pattaya Quote
Popular Post williewillie Posted July 12, 2018 Popular Post Posted July 12, 2018 Boyzboyzboyz show last night was superb with new outside groups of hot boys. Granted, fully dressed but gorgeous men on the stage leaves much to be desired. The show with 20-25 boys in transparent flimsy undershorts bulging boners and hot butts are a sight for sore eyes. We were the only farangs in a full audience. Many Asian ladies in groups. It’s difficult for many older farangs to grasp that Boyzboyzboyz is a boy bar, not a gay bar. Older farangs are history and boy bars need Asian customers to survive. Of course old farangs are very welcome but have become a fringe group, especially in low season. One successful bar manager told me, his bar would have to close if it depended on older farangs nursing a glass of water, asking for more ice every 20 minutes and complaining about the music, the lights, drink price and never buying a drink for a boy or tipping anyone. I, for one am grateful for the huge numbers of Chinese men and women who keep the boy show bars alive. witty, vinapu, kokopelli and 7 others 10 Quote
Popular Post a447a Posted July 12, 2018 Author Popular Post Posted July 12, 2018 Tonight was our last night together so after dinner I decided I'd take him shopping. "Do you still want a new shirt?" "It's ok. Too expensive. No problem." "Come on! Let's go and see if we can find one you like. I know you want a black one." So off we went. As we were walking around I noticed he was wanting to say something, but he was very hesitant. "Alright! I know you want to tell me something. Don't be shy; what is it?" After some hesitation he did : "Err....maybe not shirt but jeans. You ok?" As he was looking at the jeans I saw him glance at a beautiful black shirt. I just knew he wanted it, so I said I'd buy it for him. "No. Too much. One enough." I suggested he try it on with the jeans and when he came out of the change room, wow! - he looked amazing. Black is definitely his colour. Mind you, his slim body means he looks great in (or out of) anything he wears. He had a huge smile on his face. He was happy. Mission accomplished! As we walked over to the cashier he was still protesting. "No. I want to buy something for you. Then we are both happy. Just tell me what you want." Of course, he didn't, so I told him I was going to buy him a new belt to go with the jeans. The one has been wearing has had its day. I said he needed a new pair of shoes to complete the outfit but he wasn't having a bar of that. "Too much already!" "Ok. Next time I come to Pattaya, I'll buy you some." "Oh, thank you!" he said and gave me a discreet cuddle. What a guy! His attitude just blows my mind. He knew I'd buy him anything he wanted. He could have walked away in a new pair of Nikes. Many other boys would quickly take advantage of a farang waving around a credit card, but not him. As we have been seeing each other for years, his attitude doesn't surprise me in the least. Unlike so many guys I've met here in the past, he has never asked for anything. I just can't believe it. When we got back to the room he couldn't wait to model his new clothes for me. For the first time ever I thought he looked just as good in clothes as without! Well,..... Tonight being our last night together we got started early. He asked if he could cum on my chest. Sure. No probrem! He straddled me and started furiously jacking off and, as usual, I took over when he was about to cum. I put my hand up to catch it but it somehow flew over my hand and I got a facial instead. "Oh, sorry! Sorry!" he said and he reached for a towel to mop me down. We lay in bed hugging and cuddling, and chatted for half an hour or so. And then he was gone. He's probably heading home next week. I've written about him many times in the past. He's the real deal. Of course, the sex is important and he is one of the few guys who actually has a good time in bed, just like my boy in Bangkok. But for me, that is not enough to become a my regular guy. I want the full package. And he has it. I'm just pissed off that it took so many years of coming to Pattaya before I found him. He was out there all that time, but our paths never crossed despite the small confines of Sunee Plaza. There is someone for everyone - you just have to be patient. I'm supposed to go to Europe in September but if I can get out of it, I'll be back in Pattaya. I think I'm in love! JackR, ggobkk, Phet and 7 others 10 Quote
Vessey Posted July 12, 2018 Posted July 12, 2018 They are so easy to fall in love with - my problem is falling in love with just the one! LOL Quote
vinapu Posted July 12, 2018 Posted July 12, 2018 One successful bar manager told me, his bar would have to close if it depended on older farangs nursing a glass of water, asking for more ice every 20 minutes and complaining about the music, the lights, drink price and never buying a drink for a boy or tipping anyone. ******* I, for one am grateful for the huge numbers of Chinese men and women who keep the boy show bars alive. drinking water ? just like animals? **** I agree and too, I'm happy that Chinese discovered boy bars and are marching in. Sure they elbowed us aside but let's be honest , plenty of room to move inside still as long as we have our wallets with us. They may not be offing that much but certainly are tipping lavishly. In my many years I never saw farang tipping boy on the stage 500 or 1000 baht ( I never saw doesn't meant they did not tip that generously) but did saw such generous Chinese, both ladies and guys. Including one boy from Jupiter tipped 1000 just for being there I subsequently offed that night so Chinese -vinapu co-operation kept all 3 parties involved happy and boy occupied. Quote
vinapu Posted July 12, 2018 Posted July 12, 2018 I've written about him many times in the past. He's the real deal. Of course, the sex is important and he is one of the few guys who actually has a good time in bed, just like my boy in Bangkok. But for me, that is not enough to become a my regular guy. I want the full package. And he has it. ********* I think I'm in love! congratulations on landing such a gem, I call boys like him worth offing even only for hand holding session - gold medal in my book. ******* you want love in Thailand , rent it , as Gaybutton would remind you Quote
traveller123 Posted July 13, 2018 Posted July 13, 2018 ******* you want love in Thailand , rent it , as Gaybutton would remind you Vinapu/a447a love in Thailand can work as several members on this site could confirm. I believe the way to have the best possible chance of a relationship working over the long term is to take it slowly (worth repeating take it slowly),which a447a seems to have done, look for a lack of monetary requests, get invited to the lads village to meet his family and something I believe is really important, get him a visa to stay with you for say 3 months in your home country when you will find out if you are really compatable and he can appreciate your life style and understand you work hard and do not spend as if you are on holiday Quote
Boy69 Posted July 13, 2018 Posted July 13, 2018 "His attitude just blows my mind. He knew I'd buy him anything he wanted. He could have walked away in a new pair of Nikes. Many other boys would quickly take advantage of a farang waving around a credit card, but not him. As we have been seeing each other for years, his attitude doesn't surprise me in the least. Unlike so many guys I've met here in the past, he has never asked for anything. I just can't believe it." This is because the boy really likes you I assume he wants more serious relationship with you but he's too shy to talk about it with you. vinapu 1 Quote
Popular Post a447a Posted July 13, 2018 Author Popular Post Posted July 13, 2018 Well, I'm pretty sure he likes me; in fact, I'm 100% sure of that. We got on well the moment we met. Having grown up in Asia I'm very good at reading the signs and non-verbal cues. But a relationship is out of the question - he has a long term girlfriend. But I'm totally ok with that. I knew that on the first night I met him. I'm just happy to meet him and spend time with him every visit I make to Pattaya. We have just a fun time together. ChristianPFC, traveller123, eternityz and 2 others 5 Quote
eternityz Posted July 14, 2018 Posted July 14, 2018 Well, I'm pretty sure he likes me; in fact, I'm 100% sure of that. We got on well the moment we met. Having grown up in Asia I'm very good at reading the signs and non-verbal cues. But a relationship is out of the question - he has a long term girlfriend. But I'm totally ok with that. I knew that on the first night I met him. I'm just happy to meet him and spend time with him every visit I make to Pattaya. We have just a fun time together. You are a really lucky guy, a447a! And he too! Great that you did go to Pattaya in the end and got to meet with your guy. Look forward to reading about your future meetings. a447a 1 Quote
Boy69 Posted July 14, 2018 Posted July 14, 2018 It's happened to me too if I found the right boy for long term the vacation turned to be lovely .it's really fun to be with the same boy the whole trip no need to seek for boys every day and you aren't lonley . Quote
Popular Post a447a Posted July 14, 2018 Author Popular Post Posted July 14, 2018 "Iit's really fun to be with the same boy the whole trip no need to seek for boys every day and you aren't lonley." Yes, that sums it up perfectly. Not am I never lonely, as he spends from 4pm to around 1am with me every day, I really enjoy the conversation. One thing my regulars have all had in common is their English ability. It has allowed us to enjoy a good chat. No more sitting in silence in restaurants. I love it! This guy had an incredibly varied vocabulary and words you'd think a Thai would never know just keep popping out of his mouth. And as I mentioned, his general knowledge is fantastic - he can talk just about anything. It's simply amazing. And whenever I say "How do you know that? You know everything!" he replies : "Only little bit." His parents didn't have the money to send him to high school. Just imagine what a smart boy like him could have achieved had he been given the chance of an education! Sadly, there are probably many like him out there. What a waste. ggobkk, ChristianPFC, Vessey and 5 others 8 Quote
faranglaw Posted July 23, 2018 Posted July 23, 2018 Lovely story. Thanks for sharing it. I'm curious to know more detail about the various bars and how the boys are treated by the management and the mamasans. I often get the uneasy feeling that we are only seeing the bare surface of how badly some of these boys ar treated. In my naïveté for example, I didn't think about the mamasans stealing the boys tips. One wonders about the many possible forms of abuse. And I expect the girls at the girl bars have it even worse. I usually go to Zy Massage because it's convenient and cheap and there are always nice twinks there. Zy seems to be an entry level massage parlor for new boys coming from Lao, Myanmar or up country Thailand. They get shelter and free rent but never seem to be able to leave the place, even for an hour. Mostly they feel reasonably well treated by the bizarre mamasan there, Khun Su. Sometimes they go for extended visits to their families, so when I ask about a particular boy, Khun Su says he went to Lao or Chiangmai Rai or wherever to see family "He come back next month." Eventually they get to know the scene outside Zy and move on, or up, to one of the Silom bars where they can make more money and get their independence back. Or at least, that's my interpretation, but I'm sure there is much more to it than that. Quote
abidismaili Posted July 23, 2018 Posted July 23, 2018 I usually go to Zy Massage Where is this massage parlar located in Pattaya? Quote
faranglaw Posted July 23, 2018 Posted July 23, 2018 Where is this massage parlar located in Pattaya? It's not in Pattaya. It's in Bangkok, on Ngam Duphli, near Pinnacle Hotel. Quote
abidismaili Posted July 24, 2018 Posted July 24, 2018 It's not in Pattaya. It's in Bangkok, on Ngam Duphli, near Pinnacle Hotel. Thank you. I now understand I never saw it, it is a bit out of the area I normally look for massage parlors (Silom, Surawong). How you end up in that street? By accident? Quote
vinapu Posted July 24, 2018 Posted July 24, 2018 Thank you. I now understand I never saw it, it is a bit out of the area I normally look for massage parlors (Silom, Surawong). How you end up in that street? By accident? Soi Ngam Duphli is not some backwater - it's the street where famous Malaysia Hotel is. Magic Hands down from hotel is unheralded but still very popular massage place , Babylon and City Court massages (Sanctuary by A, Sawasdee, Candle Spa) are walk distance from there and before Khao San area was original backpackers central in Bangkok ChristianPFC and faranglaw 2 Quote
faranglaw Posted July 25, 2018 Posted July 25, 2018 Thank you. I now understand I never saw it, it is a bit out of the area I normally look for massage parlors (Silom, Surawong). How you end up in that street? By accident? I have a strong emotional connection to Zy. A boy I met at Babylon, Daeng, worked there. When he died tragically, the mamasan, Khun Su, found his local family and put on a little memorial for him. Unfortunately I was not in Thailand at the time, and did not learn of Daeng's death until Khun Su told me the story a year later. Su is the only person I know who remembers him. Of course life does move on in its lurches and detours and discoveries, and now I have a carnal connection to Zy as well, as the slim smoth young men there are quite hot to us twink lovers. A strange mixture of lust, joy, and grief. So I keep going back. llz and ChristianPFC 2 Quote
faranglaw Posted July 25, 2018 Posted July 25, 2018 I hadn't intended to hijack this thread. I'm loving the stories of a447a. I think I'm in love with his guy too. He sounds very special. The story about buying the shirt (that turned into a whole outfit) was so sweet! Please write more, a447. One suggestion: give your guy a name, like Numazu does. ggobkk 1 Quote
zoomy02 Posted July 26, 2018 Posted July 26, 2018 I especially recommend Noh (I'm guessing the spelling. It sounds like 'No') at Zy Massage. I was there a few days ago. ChristianPFC and faranglaw 2 Quote
faranglaw Posted July 28, 2018 Posted July 28, 2018 I especially recommend Noh (I'm guessing the spelling. It sounds like 'No') at Zy Massage. I was there a few days ago. Yes, I know Noh. Sweet, playful, warm. A real favorite of mine too. ChristianPFC 1 Quote
faranglaw Posted July 29, 2018 Posted July 29, 2018 I especially recommend Noh (I'm guessing the spelling. It sounds like 'No') at Zy Massage. I was there a few days ago. I wrote about Noh on antoher thread. He is "The Playful." http://www.gaythailand.com/forums/topic/11507-trip-report-with-a-bunch-of-other-stuff-thrown-in/page-2 vinapu 1 Quote