Bangkok report April 2018

[a447a]

When HIV arrived in Japan I was also told it was the foreigners who brought it with them. Lots of gay saunas and clubs then banned them.

[spoon]

When HIV arrived in Japan I was also told it was the foreigners who brought it with them. Lots of gay saunas and clubs then banned them.

Well, it has some truth behind that for sure. It needs to come from someone, at the start of it has to be outsiders, but it could very well come from japanese who goes outside for sex and come back bringing the disease to their country too. Most likely both are true. And a lot of them dont wear condom in the sauna

[a447a]

Japanese have always travelled overseas for sex - both males and females - with Taiwan being the most popular destination. They would far outnumber the gay foreigners who visit Japan.

[ay709394]

Omg, learn to read the sarcasm please. He said he was told there is no gays there.... which is obviously not true but people there just dont like to talk about them as if they are invisible

What I mean is that although people not talk about it, but gay events and gay places are very active there especially in the city area, not to mention their successful gay porn industry.

[spoon]

What I mean is that although people not talk about it, but gay events and gay places are very active there especially in the city area, not to mention their successful gay porn industry.

And we all know that..... and to reiterate, he is kidding....

[PeterRS]

Japanese have always travelled overseas for sex - both males and females - with Taiwan being the most popular destination. They would far outnumber the gay foreigners who visit Japan.

 

That seems to be true today but I doubt if it was so for Japanese gay travellers in the mid 1980s. With military rule I doubt if there was much of a gay scene in Taiwan then. The Japan sauna association (if such a body actually existed) certainly closed their doors  to foreigners but as other have implied the horse had well and truly bolted before then. Besides, the ban really only meant a notice at the entry. I suspect Japanese saunas then were a bit like those today. The staff at the front desk have difficulty seeing the faces of those entering. I heard they never asked for passports to prove nationality. I know a Singaporean and an overseas Chinese from elsewhere who always got in during the late 80s and early 90s. Yet just a few years ago the popular 24 Shinjuku demanded passports before handing over a locker key. Funny lot the Japanese!

[a447a]

Taiwan is mainly a destination for heterosexual men. Many have a 'nigou-san" or mistress in Taipei, usually a bar girl.

 

A wealthy Japanese friend of mine had a bar girl there who he supported for years. When I asked his wife how she felt about it she produced a gold credit card.

 

"I get this as compensation," she said with a smile. Then off she went to Paris for a weekend of shopping with the girls.

[PeterRS]

Do you think it is normal for the wives in Japan to know?

[a447a]

Do you think it is normal for the wives in Japan to know?

Yes, because they control the finances and pay all the bills.

 

I've had friends who are married but went to massage parlours every week. The parlour would send the bill at the end of the month and the wives would pay it.

 

Their attitude was that as long as they never saw the women involved, it was ok.

 

The younger generation take a different approach.

[a447a]

I'm back!

 

I flew into Bangkok from Seoul last night. Immigration was virtually deserted and I got through to the luggage carousels within 5 minutes - the quickest ever.

 

But there was some problem off-loading the bags and I had to wait 40 minutes before mine appeared.

 

Normally, I take the train if I arrive on the weekend, as I've been caught in a massive traffic jam in the past. But last night I decided to chance it and was surprised at the total lack of traffic anywhere along the route. Even Suriwong Street was a breeze, and I arrived at my hotel in record time.

 

So it's the taxi from now on. But I'm wondering if taxi fares have recently gone up because it cost me 450 baht, rather than the usual 300 and something. He used the meter.

 

After a quick shower it was off to meet my friends at the bar. We couldn't have our usual fun as there was a customer sitting at the bar with a girl. But as soon as they left the doorman went outside to keep a look-out for approaching customers and we had our usual fun.

 

Just as we'd finished a Japanese guy walked in with his wife and we had a bit of a chat. He's not gay but was simply looking for somewhere to enjoy a late night drink or three. But they seemed to enjoy themselves as they say and chatted with one of the guys.

 

Many of the boys still haven't returned from Songkran and there was only 4 working. But my two were there, and that's the main thing.

 

Tonight I might head off to Soi Twilight and see a show, seeing as it's Saturday night.

[a447a]

So off I went to XBoys.

 

I arrived in Soi Twilight at 9:45 and it was very quiet compared to a couple of years ago, especially for a Saturday night. The show didn't start until 10:30 so I wandered further down the soi where I saw the German owner of Dreamboys sitting outside. I went over and had a chat with him. He's acutely a very nice guy and really loves to talk.

 

I asked him the obvious question about the future of the soi and he told me what we have already heard - the soi will close in a year's time. He's now 78 and is thinking of throwing in the towel and retiring.

 

I entered XBoys at 10 pm and the place was half full. As expected these days the customers were all Asian, bar myself and two other farang. But by the time the show began it was three-quarters full.

 

The mamasan seated me at the back of the bar where I had a great view, but I was soon joined by a group of large Chinese customers who all began smoking. Talk about the Great Pall of China, I could hardly breathe! And they were blowing smoke all over me. So inconsiderate. I got up and a sat by myself on a sofa right next to the stage.

 

There were 15 boys on stage and another 5 or so sitting with customers. I had a bit of a laugh as one cute Asian guy had a boy sitting either side of him and he was desperately going for the grope. But the boys, not to be outdone, were equally desperately trying to protect their manhood. And in the end, they won hands down. They've had a lot of practice. Lol

 

Only 1 guy on the stage stood out - number 65 had a huge bulge and the outline of his long, thick appendage was there for all to see. I waited for the rotation to get another look but he never came around. A quick survey of the bar saw him sitting with a customer. The good ones don't last long. And there was 1 gay boy who cuddled another boy from behind and I watched as he got a very quick hard-on, which he proudly showed off to all and sundry. As usual, I spent a lot of time ogling the cute Chinese guys in the audience. Some were just gorgeous!

 

For details of the show just read any of my reports from say, 5 years ago!

 

The last act was the chuck-wow show. They keep dragging out the same guy to perform. Not that I'm complaining, as he is very good-looking and has a very nice cock. It's just that I feel a little sorry for him, as that's his night over and done with - not much chance of an off. I hope the bar pays him well. He put on his usual sterling performance and although he didn't shoot as far as he normally does, he produced a prodigious load. Awesome!

 

One thing I can never understand is the attitude of some of the Asian customers I've witnessed over the years. They avert their eyes whenever a cock appears. A really cute couple was sitting opposite me and they turned their eyes away when the big cock show began. And they weren't interested at all in the chuck-wow show. How can a gay guy not be interested in cock??

 

Drinks 350 baht.

[Guest abang1961]

Although as a person of Chinese descent (my grandparents fled mainland China almost 100 years ago due to the turbulent political situation then), I am at wits end when it comes to deal/handle mainland Chinese.  As the report above said, most of them are SMOKERS.. they have zero concern for those who do not... not just in Bangkok's bar but everywhere.  

 

During my recent Chiangmai trip, they were having lots of SMOKING opportunities at the Tha Phae Gate.  There should be signs declaring SMOKING zone - like Singapore has those yellow boxers/perimeters for smokers.  

 

With regards to BIG COCK CHUCK-WOW, perhaps the size difference is just too evident.  If not, they may be afraid of that shower of SPERMs on them....Anyway, I stay clear of mainland Chinese during my last visit 2 weeks ago.  Call me a snob but I really did not want to be regarded as one of them.

[jason1975]

After a quick shower it was off to meet my friends at the bar. We couldn't have our usual fun as there was a customer sitting at the bar with a girl. But as soon as they left the doorman went outside to keep a look-out for approaching customers and we had our usual fun.

Just as we'd finished a Japanese guy walked in with his wife and we had a bit of a chat. He's not gay but was simply looking for somewhere to enjoy a late night drink or three. But they seemed to enjoy themselves as they say and chatted with one of the guys.

Many of the boys still haven't returned from Songkran and there was only 4 working. But my two were there, and that's the main thing.

Tonight I might head off to Soi Twilight and see a show, seeing as it's Saturday night.

Which bar was this? Golden Cock?

[a447a]

Yes. Golden Cock. I have 3 regulars there who wait for me every day and also at night.

 

Unfortunately for the other customers, should there be any, I've got the best of the bunch!

[rollingstone]

Although as a person of Chinese descent (my grandparents fled mainland China almost 100 years ago due to the turbulent political situation then), ...blah blah blah ...  Call me a snob but I really did not want to be regarded as one of them.

 

Why the constant bashing of the Chinese ? We all know what/who you like. If you are ashamed of being one, change your color.

Smokers have their rights as well.

[spoon]

They were behaving very badly before, but i do noticed that nowadays they are now more well behaved and pretty much like the rest of other tourists in term of behaviour, no different than anyone from the countryside or rural area behave when they first arrived in a city. On the smoking, i am definitely against them, and wont be sitting anywhere near those who smoke, but if the bar does allow them, i would definitely appreciate if they at least separate smoking and non smoking area. Smokers have their right to poison themselves but they dont have a right to poison others.

[a447a]

I'm an occasional smoker, but only in Thailand because a lot of the boys smoke. It used to be a great way to meet the boys in Hotmail - I'd go to the smoking area on the stairs and have the chance to chat with the boys.

 

Smokers do have rights. But they don't have the right to blow smoke in someone's face, especially if that person is not a smoker. And passive smoke is a known carcinogen. Also, a lot of customers in bars are non-smokers but leave with their clothes and hair stinking of smoke.

 

Customers can go outside and smoke.

[a447a]

I went to Hotmale for the show tonight.

 

I arrived at 10pm and the 9:45 show was in progress. There was a stripper on stage when I walked in but then it was over! So much for the show!

 

The bar was virtually empty and they had about 10 guys on stage, including a gogo granddad with a pot belly! And I know that Soi Twilight is going through lean times but a couple of the boys looked quite emaciated.

 

A pesky waiter came over and tried to sit with me but I cut him off at the pass by moving to the edge of the sofa. When I told him I was just looking, he went through all the boys on stage, telling me where they were from. There was one guy from Myanmar with a gorgeous body - number 23 - and a couple from Cambodia.

 

"What you like? You like big cock?"

 

"Not particularly."

 

"Number 15 have long cock."

 

I feigned disinterest and he finally left me in peace to ogle.

 

Number 17 has the most beautiful smile; it would melt your heart. And number 6 was really cute and appeared later in the show sporting an impressive member. One guy, whose number I can't remember (the Myanmar boy?), as I had my eyes elsewhere , had an incredible bulge that his briefs were battling to contain. He kept smiling at me and every now and then would give me a little wave.

 

Desperate times! Lol

 

I've always thought that Hotmale has the best looking guys, and tonight was no exception. A couple of the coyote dancers were really hot and handsome, although their "dancing" was not up to Hotmale's normal high standard.

 

I've also always believed that they have the most hung guys of any of the bars in the soi, and I wasn't disappointed.

 

The show began and was quite interesting. The acts actually drew loud applause. (That's got to be a first.) But for me it lacks the sleaze factor.

 

As usual, the was plenty of cock on display right from the beginning, which I think is a particular feature of this bar. If joined together they would reach to the moon. And back, probably. And unlike other bars, it's not just a few of the guys in the show who are well-endowed - they all have a lot going for them, so to speak. Does Hotmale only employ hung guys, I wonder.

 

And not a lip-syncing ladyboy in sight.

 

Then number 15 appeared - the guy with the allegedly long cock. OMG! I'm guessing 9 inches. He's also very handsome and had a swimmer's physique. What's not to like? Mr Perfect!

 

As he was going through his routine, which included a bit of pole dancing, three young Japanese girls came in, sat down the front and nearly fainted. I've never seen a 9 incher in Japan, and I'm sure they haven't, either. They squealed with delight as he came up to them and waved it in their face. If truth be known, I was also squealing!

 

He re-appeared later in other acts and got down from the stage, along with number 17 with the killer smile and gave the Japanese girls a grope. They will definitely be back tomorrow night.

 

After the show I was determined to have Mr 9 incher sit with me but someone grabbed him before me.

 

Damn!

 

Drinks 400 baht for the first one, then 350 thereafter. Bar only one quarter full, if that.

[spoon]

In retrospect, if you have taken the waiter/mamasan advise, number 15 wouldve already seated with u before the show.

[Guest abang1961]

Why the constant bashing of the Chinese ? We all know what/who you like. If you are ashamed of being one, change your color.

Smokers have their rights as well.

You don't have to agree with me nor antagonise me.

 

 

Sorry I'm proud to be of the Chinese descent and my preference in white meat as zero bearing on the Chinese mainlanders.

I don't despise anyone because of his ethnic group.

It is just the uncouth mainlanders that I dislike.

They are discovering new wealth and new places to travel.

Have a good look at Big C, across Central World on any day and you will know my stand.

 

 

 

Non-smokers have the right to tell you to put off that smoke.

As a matter of fact,  there is a critical  need to zone areas for smokers and non-smokers.

The pollution index in gay bars and gay venues is very high and honestly, would you be one who had contributed to it?

 

 

Back to the topic..a477a..excellent reporting..makes me wonder how it is to get that monster in me...

[paulsf]

Keep in mind when you say “Twilight is going thru lean times” that it is now low season. Twilight has had a fairly successful winter season. During the Songkran week they were turning people away, The other night someone mentioned FreshBoys seemed quiet. But in fact about 25 boys just before show started and 8 left when 2nd show started. Most of us go by what we see at that moment.

Sometimes you need to see the whole evening picture. Things aren’t always as bad as first impression.

[a447a]

In retrospect, if you have taken the waiter/mamasan advise, number 15 wouldve already seated with u before the show.

That's only true if you believe everything a mamasan tells you. Some will say anything to get a boy to sit with you.

 

But I imagine he was booked well before I arrived. That's generally the case with the types of guys.

[a447a]

....makes me wonder how it is to get that monster in me...

It doesn't bear thinking about! I want to live to tell the tale.

 

Some cocks are just too big to be of any practical use. In the case of number 15, it's too long to suck properly, too long to chuck-wow - it would be exhausting! - and way too long to fuck. There's no way he could get it in all the way.

 

But it's good to look at.

 

I assume he would have gained hero status at high school.

[a447a]

I can't believe what I'm about to write.

 

Last night Golden Cock had customers! Six, in all!

 

WTF??

 

Drinks were flowing freely - I bought 25 in total for the 4 of us - and everyone was having a blast. There was a bit of action happening on the sofas, but unlike Eros, it was not entirely out in the open. But there were plenty of hands up shorts and down pants. The boys don't mind flopping it out but the customers are a little more reticent, although the other night one guy was getting a hand-job while sitting at the bar.

 

An attractive youngish German guy, known to the boys, turned up and immediately picked up a microphone. Oh, no! Please don't sing! There's nothing worse than having a guy who thinks he can sing mournfully moaning into a mike.

 

But sing he did. And what a beautiful voice. He kept us all entertained with songs in German, English, Italian, French and Thai. When he sang "Chaimai Khun", apparently with perfect pronunciation, the guys went wild.

 

He even dragged me up for a duet of Edith Piaf's 'Non, Je Ne Regrette Rien."

 

The boys didn't go wild.

 

Two of the guys said they'd read about the bar on the internet (maybe here; who knows?) and were surprised it was open during the day. They said they'd be back this afternoon.

 

Unfortunately for them, many of the boys are still on holiday and usually there are only 2 others apart from my 3 guys in the afternoon. Others only turn up at night. You'd think the manager would be on the phone telling them to get their arses in the bar during the day, but that is not how it works, apparently.

 

We know that we all have different tastes, so to speak, when it comes to guys. One boy, who I'm not attracted to in the least, found favour with one of the customers and had a bit of a steamy session with him on the sofa.

 

There's also a very dark-skinned guy, ex Nature Boy, working there and again, he's not my type. I do, however, remember having him sit with me once and he flopped out his beautiful Issan appendage. Suddenly, he became instantly attractive!

 

I got talking with him last night standing at the bar, and he's a really lovely guy -very touchy-feely and he loves to give you a kiss and a cuddle. He looks a bit rough, but in this case looks are definitely deceiving.

 

Although I've already literally got my hands full with my regulars, I'm going to have him sit with me today and just see what "comes up."

 

I left at 2am but the party was still in full swing.

 

All in all, a really fun evening.

[Uranus]

Looking forward to my next visit.