Jomtien complex boy bars

[Guest Justbrent]

Hello all,

long time lurker here and am in Jomtien right now. Is it me or has anyone noticed that the boys are more effeminate than before? Went there last night and observed that.

 

I'm new to the boy bar scene and it was weird that an effeminate boy likes me and kept on hovering around me. I didn't buy him a drink as I didn't want his company. I found another boy cute but it felt like he kept his distance and the effeminate boy had kinda claimed me.

 

I probably should have just say that I wanted to buy him a drink bur didn't.

 

Went to blue angel massage on Thursday and had one of the lousiest massage but he was cute. No pressure at all eventhough I told him I like it firmer.

 

Ended up with a happy ending but he asked for a thousand baht. I thought to myself, from what I read on here, a short time off is 1000bt so declined the hj initially and he went down to 400bt.

 

I don't mind giving more if it was good, especially when they don't ask for tip.

 

Staying at Zing. Good value for money and staying at the pool view room and it's pretty quiet. Can't hear the bar music at all. However the bed is a little too hard for our liking.

 

Thanks for reading my post.

[vinapu]

welcome to the forum and keep posting. Try Fah massage in the complex, had good experience there in Sept  and few reports after that confirmed my impression, no fem boys there

[Travellerdave]

I stayed at the Zing 4 weeks ago and agree with you that it’s very good value gay friendly hotel and does not suffer from noise during the night. I will stay there again despite previously using the Agate and Poseidon. I didn’t find the bed too hard and I had no complaints from my offs. I liked being able to access my room from the alley leading to the road without passing via the lobby but I took overnight boys that way to hand in their cards.

I wouldn’t say that effeminate boys are a feature of the Complex anymore than BT or Sunee.

[Moses]

Stay away from The Moon Bar. All boys are busy with their phones. Worst bar in JC.

[witty]

On the other hand, boys at Sun bar are quite smartly dressed and attentive.

[hanan]

On the other hand, boys at Sun bar are quite smartly dressed and attentive.

Smartly dressed?

[witty]

Yes, judging by their youthful sense of street fashion.

Senior citizens have their own tastes undoubtedly.

[colmx]

Are the ownerships Sun and Moon bar connected?

On the few times I've been to Sun bar I've never seen anyone in Moon bar.... I just presumed that the boss of Sun bar kept it open to avoid having a dark space opposite his bar?

[halfhansum]

Its called the Sun bar, because the owner`s name is Sun , Don`t think there is any connection ..

[Guest Justbrent]

I stayed at the Zing 4 weeks ago and agree with you that it’s very good value gay friendly hotel and does not suffer from noise during the night. I will stay there again despite previously using the Agate and Poseidon. I didn’t find the bed too hard and I had no complaints from my offs. I liked being able to access my room from the alley leading to the road without passing via the lobby but I took overnight boys that way to hand in their cards.

I wouldn’t say that effeminate boys are a feature of the Complex anymore than BT or Sunee.

Now that we are getting used to the bed we do like Zing. The ease of everything and it feel more like a gay hotel than a gay friendly hotel.

 

Haven't been to the gym yet as it looks pretty sad. Breakfast is adequate and it's from 7am till 2pm. Yesterday we slept in and went for breakfast at 11ish and were a bit weary of the food being left there for a while. No food poisoning tho.

[Guest frequentflier]

I have not noticed that many boys there are fem.If anything its the complete opposite.

[Guest Justbrent]

welcome to the forum and keep posting. Try Fah massage in the complex, had good experience there in Sept and few reports after that confirmed my impression, no fem boys there

Thanks Vinapu. i have learned so much from you and the rest of the regulars here that I thought I should post on here for those who are not here. Hopefully my posts will bring back memories for those who are in their respective home countries.

 

Also big thanks to Nuzamu. I am of Asian descent and used to think everyone thinks I'm Thai and ignored me when I walked into an establishment with my farang husband. With his posts, I am more confident of myself when I visit "those" establishments.

 

Will try Fah soon. Walked past a few times.

[Guest Justbrent]

Numazu. Sorry mate. Got your nick wrong and I got no idea how to edit

[vinapu]

Numazu. Sorry mate. Got your nick wrong and I got no idea how to edit

'edit' button is there beside ' multi quote ' button but  only few minutes after posted , then disappears for good

[Guest Justbrent]

Saturday in Jomtien.

 

We thought it was going to rain so we didn't go to the beach. Went down to Central Festival instead and saw the American navy//marines are in town. (Never know if they are marines or navy but they have a distinct look of them. Maybe it's because to walk around unsnap groups and have an innocent hint of excitement in their dialogue.

 

After lunch, I told my husband that I am thinking of going to yunomori onsen in the afternoon as it's going to rain. He got himself a guy over for a "massage" and off I went to yunomori.

 

Been to the onsen branch in Singapore and Bangkok, I thought I would give the pattaya branch a go and have an afternoon of pure relaxation and perving.

 

Had my Thai massage and the masseur was really good. So far my best massage I had. I felt so relaxed and tipped her 200bt. After we finished the massage the masseur will give you a questionnaire with a hot tea and there is an optional tip section.

 

Saw how she beamed with gratitude when she was the tip amount and when she went to the counter she spoke to another masseur and she peeked over with envy. To us it's just A$8 but it somehow seemed to mean a lot to her. Maybe they aren't used to getting a large tip? I didn't think it was large but from their reaction, it might be.

 

The onsen was empty the whole afternoon. Only about 4 other guys in there, an elder farang, an elder Japanese and two Thai guys. The Japanese was comfortable with nudity and so does the elderly farang (with his enormous asset hanging between his legs, who wouldn't be comfortable)

 

Ithe onsen in Singapore, everyone walked around naked without really covering themselves. Last visit in Bangkok it seems like everyone is covering themselves with the small towel they provide you with.

 

In Pattaya they are even modest even when u get in, they give you a black pair of shorts.

 

Anyway, after a good clean sitting on the stool like how the Japanese do, went to have a soak in the various pool.

 

Went into the steam room and the farang was there so we strikes p a conversation. He said that he knew I wasn't Thai as I didn't cover myself. He's been living in Thailand for 20years and been going to the onsen almost daily.

 

I noticed he glanced over my crotch a lot so I didn't really thaught much but then he started touching himself. It was a bit weird being in a proper onsen so I left the steam room.

 

Later on chatted to him more and found out that he is married to a Thai lady and since going to the onsen he started liking the look of male bodies and cocks. He said he never was into guys when he was younger so that was very interesting. Being curious I asked more questions and he said he doesn't want to do anything but love to look at dicks and wanted to see a dick gets hard. I told him he has a very big dick and he said he is very embarrassed in thailand as he is the odd one out.

 

Anyway it was so intriguing that I made myself hard when showering next to him on the Japanese stool just so he gets a little bit of excitement. After that show he asked where I stayed and told him in Jomtien and was going to walk back (about 1.4km) as I haven't got the guts to use the motorbike taxis yet. He offered me a lift back as he drove there. Guess that's his payback for me showings him my hard dick. Haha.

 

Got back went to dinner at an open air market place nearby, came back and told hubby I wanna off a guy tonight. Asked how is boy was and he said that he wasn't that good as how he advertised himself. He couldn't get hard (eventhough he claimed my hubby was his type) and had to watch porn while making him hard to fuck him. So he said he wanted to off someone too.

 

Off we went to @home bar. On Friday night we were ushered and pulled into the small bar next to @home bar and I noticed a few guys there who are cute. So this time we walked into the street from the Venue so we won't get pulled into the other bar. One efemminate boy likes me there and so no doubt he will be pulling me into his bar if I walked from the other direction. We sat at the back in the top level of the bar and my hubby had already chatted to one of the boys on Grindr. I told him the etiquette is to buy the boy a drink if we want to chat with them. (Thanks to you guys, I am almost like a pro) so he bought him a drink while I scanned for my guy.

 

He walked past me and I think he knew I was checking him out the night before from the other bar. He acknowledged me and left. My hubby asked me to buy him a drink and I said I couldn't get eye contact as he is on the street level. Hubby said to ask his boy to ask him but I don't like pointing him out so I said I will when he walks back up.

 

He was more of a mascular frame and not effeminate at all. He wore flip flops and short jeans so very casual.

 

Then saw him hugging a farang customer and thought: I gotta start scanning for someone else. The horny bugger in me needs to get laid tonight!

 

He walked up and I quickly smiled at him and he came over to say hello, and I asked him to get himself a drink.

 

Turns out he has been working there for 6 days only. Rice farmer from Cambodia and been working at construction sites before joining the bar scene. Not sure how true is it about working only for 6 days but judging from how he dressed, it could be.

 

His English wasn't that good so had to rely on google translate a few times. Eventually I had to ask him if he is top or bottom, as my hubby said he could be a top and I would be wasting my time. Asked him and he said he is a top.

 

Bugger.

 

My hubby's boy knew I am too and spoke to him in Khmer and he said he can do both.

 

Okie dokie. Back to thinking with my dick.

 

To be continued as I am getter Ng hungry. Going down for breakfast now

[Guest Justbrent]

Sorry for the typos. Typing all this on my phone.

 

So we went up to a short time room. And he looked nervous. He even locked the bathroom door when he went in for a shower.

 

After I came out he was lying there with his towel and so I just lie next to him. Fondling and we both got really hard. Then he said, I fuck u. I said no, I fuck him. He said no. He top. Due to language barrier it was hard to ask him why he said he is versatile at the bar.

 

I should have known not to off him but as usual my dick did all the thinking.

 

We fondled and he didn't want to kiss. And asked him to suck me and he did for a little bit. But wasn't good. I asked if he likes girls only and he said 1/2 1/2 assuming he meant he's bi.

 

Anyway, I said I want to fuck him and said I will give him more. No harm trying. He said no. So I was gonna cut my loses and we fondled and wank one another.

 

Touched his asshole and he clenched it tiight.

 

Told him I wanna see and he showed me. Nice and tight.. hairy too.

 

Offered him doubled and he said no. Asked him how much he wants and he said 3 times and again my dick did the decision making.

 

He said we will try as it's his first time. Not so sure if that is true but I am gullible and new to this.

 

I said if we try and it doesn't go in then I am not giving him what he asked for.

 

So I tried and was good. He seemed to enjoy it but said it was oainful. After all that. I didn't cum so took off the condom and asked him to wank. He got soft and he said he can't.

 

I was just enjoying him so I wanked looking at him and he started to watch something on his phone. Turns out he's watching straight porn.

 

Didn't know what I felt then. It's like he's straight and needed to watch straight porn to get off but then again it's kinda hot too.

 

We both came and then showered and I left.

 

Giving the boy bars a break tonight.

 

Sorry if I sounded like an opportunist or using money to get what I wanted but I was so horny and it was kinda my first off. Thanks for reading. It was nice to relive it now.

[spoon]

You would be glad u did that. Nothing is more frustrating when u actually have the means but not using it and caused you lost opportunity. Even what he asked is 3 times normal rate, its still small enough for you not to regret it, versus keeping u wondering what could have happened.

[vinapu]

no harm trying but if boy said ' no' to me doubling his tip I'd assume he is not interested in whatever I want from him and this was time fr me  to stop trying .

 

You can complain about his performance as he was saying 'no'  and if he was hot looking , no reason to complain.

 

Sometimes boys are so hot looking that I'd be tempted to pay them just to undress and let me look at them   but somehow they always so far turned more progressive and active than that.

[Guest Justbrent]

It was our last night in Jomtien so we thought we gonna go and off some boys. Went to @home bar again.

 

The boys seemed to flock to us and I saw the boy I offed and was with a customer. He went to get ice for him and told me he will be with me later.

 

Question to you all: how do u tell the boys you previously offed that u don't want him again? He assumed I wanted him again.

 

Anyway we sat there and within minutes mites a boy came and sat with us. He and asked another boy to sit with us.

 

We didn't mind them so bought them drinks. it was a quiet night and there wasn't a lot of boys and customer so we asked if they would like to be offed. And asked how much, my boy said 1500bt. And my hubby asked his after I prompted him and my boy spoke to his boy and he said 1500bt.

 

Was it because of me giving so much to my first boy made they raised their fee? What do you guys think? I woulld have paid it if they didn't demand it but don't like it upping the rate.

 

We kinda said no. And then I said 1000bt. My boy said no. I went to the toilet and my hubby asked his boy the rate saying it's too much. My boy spoke to his boy again and then his boy said 1500bt. And they changed their personality.

 

My hubby's boy looked pissed off. Not sure if he was pissed off because my boy kept on asking him to demand more or pissed off my hubby didn't want to pay 1500bt. My boy just kept quiet and didn't look at me but just held my hands.

 

It became weird so we decided not to off them.

 

Question to you guys: do u still tip them for their time eventhough we bought them drinks and it kinda became weird after the negotiation?

 

Also do u think the boys talked and now they think we will pay more so they upped their rate?

 

Ithe vibe was so weird between the two boys and us that it won't be fun anyway so we left.

 

Do u guys ever had that happened? We were contemplating on going to another bar but they were watching us so we didn't.

[ggobkk]

I may have missed reading the amount you paid to your off from the previous night.  I suspect the word was out what you were willing to pay.  If that was the case, then the bargaining may have involved comparing to what  you are known to pay.

 

As far as walking away if the deal isn't right...that's your right and you did what you should have done.  I would have tipped each of the the boys 100 thb for their time.

[vinapu]

Question to you all: how do u tell the boys you previously offed that u don't want him again? He assumed I wanted him again.

 

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Was it because of me giving so much to my first boy made they raised their fee? What do you guys think?.........

 

 

 

 

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It became weird so we decided not to off them.

 

Question to you guys: do u still tip them for their time eventhough we bought them drinks and it kinda became weird after the negotiation?

 

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Do u guys ever had that happened? We were contemplating on going to another bar but they were watching us so we didn't.

boys will be trying to take an ownership of you  next time they see you but understand very well that it may not be successful, they are used to all those butterflies.

 

 You don't need to apologize or explain why you are not offing them tonight, it's enough if you don't propose taking them out.

 

It may feel awkward and they may look genuinely pissed of but that the nature of their job unfortunately. And rest assured it works both ways - boy may all of the sudden tell you , all hot already,  that he can't go with you tonight because he needs to go with another customer , been there.

 

yes , boys talk and if you paid XXX baht to one they will expect  the same treatment although I personally don't see anything wrong in offering less to their friends who should understand you liked other boy bit better.  

 

You did right thing in leaving them , if you feel awkward , further encounter would be chore rather than fun. Boys tried to establish higher rate, nothing wrong with it but you stand your ground and nothing wrong with it either.

 

This is why I like to set price in advance , to avoid situation like that in the morning. Is easier to leave empty handed than trying to argue with boy in your room

 

yes , you should tip them for their time , as one of Oscar's boys told me bluntly in September ' boys are working for baht not for drinks", after all they could be sitting with somebody else.

 

to bad you felt intimidated by boys watching you and skipped on visiting another bar - after all those are your vacations.

 

All in all,other then not  tipping boys  you did right thing.  

[Boy69]

Once you pay high amount to the boy he will not accept lower than that in the future moreover boys tend to gossip and the rumors that you are paying well will be spread so the other boys will demand more from you than the normal rate, it's not a smart move to throw away large amounts on bar boys it's better to steak to the normal rate.the exception are the 'star' boys that have big demand and will charge more so you have no choice but to pay higher rate if you want them.

[Travellerdave]

I agree with Boy69 that it is often necessary to pay more than the going rate to obtain the services of “star” boys, who are attractive and perform well in bed. I did this for three consecutive nights for a Laosian Complex boy, three weeks ago, who I had the “hots” for. In addition I felt the need to visit the bar early to make sure someone else did not “steal” him !. Having mentioned an over the odds price to tempt him, and paid it for the first night, I could not then make a reduction for subsequent nights.

[vinapu]

Once you pay high amount to the boy he will not accept lower than that in the future........

it depends how distant future is and how "hungry" so to speak boy will be.

 

Sure , next night he will expect the same and may even fish for taxi money but few days later if they passed without an off he may be more amendable to  a price correction although I'd take advantage of that only if in the first place  he was very generously compensated.

 

As Travellerdave noticed  above it may be better to be generous and splashing on a boy we like than deprive ourselves his services just because we have habit of sticking to set rates and he wants more.  Both sides may go home unhappy like last OP story shows.

[Boy69]

it depends how distant future is and how "hungry" so to speak boy will be.

 

Sure , next night he will expect the same and may even fish for taxi money but few days later if they passed without an off he may be more amendable to a price correction although I'd take advantage of that only if in the first place he was very generously compensated.

 

As Travellerdave noticed above it may be better to be generous and splashing on a boy we like than deprive ourselves his services just because we have habit of sticking to set rates and he wants more. Both sides may go home unhappy like last OP story shows.

In principal I agree with your attitude but regarding the OP's case the boy was really not in the mood of playing as bottom so why bother and triple the amount if the boy didn't want to be bottom ?The OP admitted that it was painful for the boy so I don't see how can it be enjoyable experience for both sides.