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Somewhat dry rainy season - Thailand trip of Sept 2017

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perhaps you are right although I took my boy after second show and I doubt they have another one and still was required to pay 800. Perhaps I should bargain it down.

 

That friend of us stated "800 before 23:00" in April-2016. Perhaps, the same rule applies, but one needs to insist? Although he was not a show boy, but a coyote dancer...

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What is a coyote dancer?

That was my question too: wtf is a coyote dancer in BBB?! And why are you talking me about 800 now, when it was 500 just 4,5 months ago?! :)

 

There were some boys, who danced at small stages around the club with the bulk of guys just stayed "still" at the big stage. The first were named coyotes (with inflated off price until 23:00, still negotiable).

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That friend of us stated "800 before 23:00" in April-2016. Perhaps, the same rule applies, but one needs to insist? Although he was not a show boy, but a coyote dancer...

this  is what I though afterwards, i paid that 800 like a sheep without  protest ar trying to bargain , on another hand deal was sealed in presence of two mamasans so I don't think they tried to scam me.

 

Anyways , who cares, that 800 I classified as one of better spent money that trip and this is what counts  / at least for me /.

Coyote dancers  are classified as show boy for that purpose anyways.

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And are the coyote dancers off-able ?

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And are the coyote dancers off-able ?

yes,  but usually off fee is higher and depending on the bar they may be available only after certain hour when crowds in the bar  are thinner 

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I know a friend who paid 2k euro for a night with a famous pornstar so what u pay pale in comparison to that lol. Normal charges were around 50-100 euros there but that pornstar dont usually take customer so needs more motivation to take one. And guess what, my friend never regretted that night lol.

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"Very energetic night although we got some sleep and when we opened eyes at 7 a.m.  I could not miss that proposal – you stay till 10 and I give you 4000 / readers please stop screaming , see the man first !"

 

Well said, vinapu.

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Is only one boy on the market to  whom  at one point in the past I was prepared to pay up to 200 USD but never got around  to off him then.

 

Wait was fruitful, got him for 2500 ST , watch this space , will be reported soon.

 

I know that some may think I overpaid here and there, truth is all those 3 LT last trip I paid 4000 each were  by far the best offs both by quality of time and quality of companion.  Economizing did good only to a degree. Saved money but with exception of last 2 nights in PTT produced nothing memorable , just pleasure at the moment and 1 upsetting case- see next report.

 

Both Tawan boys and Keow not only looked great  but did their best to ensure I like time spent with them. Can't recall smallest fault on their part so money is not even an issue.Hope I will have a chance to see them in the future too.

 

If I sense  they are trying to pull my leg I have no problem of cutting them off. I'm not looking for a love in Thailand  but gladly rent it for 500 baht /hr or less.

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OMG you do over pay anywhere you go ,I am screaming just now .lol. your major mistake is that you're thinking in your home country level costs but you are in Thailand! The average salary here is 10k to 15k baht so you pay the boy a huge amount of money especially for a Pattaya average off,I don't care what you are willing to do with your money but the problem for all other falangs is when big spenders like you coming to Pattaya bars the boys become more gready and the rates go up and up.If you stick to 2000-2500 Bhat for example and be firm with 'take it or leave it'

approach the boy would certainly agree and if not there are plenty other boys that will take the offer gladly.

 

Anyway I am glad you are doing a lot of fun in Pattaya.

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I was fortunate to catch up with vinapu on three nights. We both like Oscars and have mutual appreciation of

the boys in the massage places on the main Boyztown soi and of course, Boyzboyzboyz.

The lineup parade has been nightly for about a week now, just a few minutes later than before. The boys gather on

the terrace a little while before and can be easily approach for a chat and you can get to know them without

buying drinks or loud music. Tips always appreciated..

The terrace drink prices are very reasonable and I find ideal for interviewing.

I suggest vinapu not start with the apps as he might go into overload. He’s quite a flirt and the boys obviously like him.

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Of all the reasons not to pay the tip someone wants to, these are about the worst. Apart from Vinapu being allowed to do what he likes with his money, giving an occasional boy a large tip simply reinforces good service. The complaint that all prices will go up is simply not true. If a boy gives really good service and gets a really good tip it reinforces the fact that if he does good things he gets paid a lot. The reverse is also true. If you give the same crap tip no matter how good the boy is, you teach the boys that they may as well do a crap job because the money is the same no matter what.

I am not complaining about tips and everyone can do whatever whey want with their money but consistently paying very high rates seems very odd to me ,however Vinapu can do whatever he wants. if he was a little bit more careful with his money he could save a lot and receive very well service from the boys.

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Dont worry boy69, vinapu hasnt ruin the market price for any of the boy u like, plus muscular boy has been demanding higher prices anyway, and they are becoming rare now if you are being picky like me (not too big, must be ripped, not too flabby, but want bubble butt, not too dark but want them to be manly, handsome model like) Also, they know that they can get much more from some customers (some even get motorcycles, iphones, expensive watches) that are worth way more than what vinapu gives in cash, but they also realize that such customer is also rare.

Maybe you right muscular boys are not my type so maybe they're more expensive I personally prefer 18-22 yo slim twinks with boyish look and they're very happy with 1000 to 1500 for ST ,and 1500 to 2500 for LT .

I am in no way cheap charlie one boy who stay with me very long term received from me 10k Baht worth gold necklace as a present and other boy received from 3k BHT tip extra for one week but I am certainly against the idea to pay extravagant rates for every boy I meet.

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For myself, I prefer guys in their mid to late twenties which usually means they are in their early 30's (due to Thai's looking so much younger than they really are). Sometimes early 20's but rarely. I never suggest a price beforehand and only agree one with the guy if they bring it up. I pay the guy what the performance is worth to me, with 1500 being the minimum for ST and 2000 the minimum for long time. I can count on one hand the number of times I've paid the minimum.

 

I understand it's Thailand, I understand that I can barter, I understand that the boy would probably take far less if I offered less. I choose to not treat it like I'm picking a T-shirt in the market playing one stall holder against another. The boy doesn't know how much he will get till after the fact. I don't care if he thinks me an easy mark and I don't care if he would have taken half as much. It makes me feel good if I make him smile after whatever the reason. A 10 hour LT in LoS still costs 1/3 what an hour would cost at home.

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I know a friend who paid 2k euro for a night with a famous pornstar so what u pay pale in comparison to that lol. Normal charges were around 50-100 euros there but that pornstar dont usually take customer so needs more motivation to take one. And guess what, my friend never regretted that night lol.

I tried to off a pornstar - he appears in Czechhunter videos - when I was in Prague. I first saw him at Escape Bar and knew I just had to have him, no matter what the cost. I imagine the sex would be awesome. He'd know all the tricks. Then again, he could be a dud in bed.

 

The experience would also give me a dinner party conversation topic for the rest of my life! Plus, I could put on one of his videos and show my friends the guy I had sex with.

 

My god, he was so hot. And hung like a donkey.

 

Unfortunately, I didn't get the chance, as he was offed by a couple of regular customers every night . They took precedence over a mere horny tourist.

 

When I consider what I pay in Australia for sex, Thailand is cheap, no matter how much the boy asks for.

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For myself, I prefer guys in their mid to late twenties which usually means they are in their early 30's (due to Thai's looking so much younger than they really are). Sometimes early 20's but rarely. I never suggest a price beforehand and only agree one with the guy if they bring it up. I pay the guy what the performance is worth to me, with 1500 being the minimum for ST and 2000 the minimum for long time. I can count on one hand the number of times I've paid the minimum.

 

I understand it's Thailand, I understand that I can barter, I understand that the boy would probably take far less if I offered less. I choose to not treat it like I'm picking a T-shirt in the market playing one stall holder against another. The boy doesn't know how much he will get till after the fact. I don't care if he thinks me an easy mark and I don't care if he would have taken half as much. It makes me feel good if I make him smile after whatever the reason. A 10 hour LT in LoS still costs 1/3 what an hour would cost at home.

Excatly my approch I also never suggest a price beforehand and only agree one with the guy if they bring it up because if I do that the boys usually throw away outrageous rates and I don't like to bargain with them.but I do pay fair rates at the end ,never faced problem with that as advised before 1000-1500 ST and 1500-2500 LT.I never off boys from BKK bars because I know this rates are not acceptable by the boys there not a problem for me anyway because I rarely stay in BKK more than 1-2 days every trip not a big fan of this city.

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Thanks vinapu for that idea. I just put it in practice with a MB here, all i can say, we both enjoy the session lol. Me giving my really bad massage instead of the boy massaging me haha. And since his body is oily after the session, he is more open to shower together as well. I have to admit that i couldnt massage his body long enough before letting my hand ran wild to other part instead lol.

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2 Boy69: it's worth to mention, that Vinapu started this report with words "my 16th trip to Thailand" - so being there 16 times he really knows his ways there

 

2 Spoon: we could have problems, visiting a bar or massage shop together "not too big, must be ripped, not too flabby, but want bubble butt, not too dark but want them to be manly, handsome model like".

Although, being an orang putih (a white skin Russian), I am quite OK with "too dark", if all others qualities are in place. So I can take those, who darker :)

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