Somewhat dry rainy season - Thailand trip of Sept 2017

[Jasper]

I wish there was a “SUPER Liked” button here!

 

There must be a guardian angel smiling at you on Day 11, as you often mention it.

First ex porn star and Mr Tam #60? You are so lucky.

When I visited old Jupiter earlier this year and last year, he seemed almost always “reserved” for customer i.e. without number tag, I was wondering how far ahead I need to make an appointment to off him.

He is undoubtedly one of the star of Bangkok gogo scene and certainly has a star quality.

I saw him entering Jupiter as a customer accompanying a female client in June it seemed the whole bar lighted up with his smile! I was too wondering why he left and didn’t come back to the new Jupiter.

I could hire him just for holding his hand.

[biguyby]

I love to read your reports vinapu especially when I'm back home in Farangland dreaming of being back in the L.o.S. thanks for making the effort to entertain and excite us.

[Boy69]

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[Boy69]

Great report Vinapu although I am totaly amazed that after this 2 intensive sessions with boys you try to find another one for the rest of the night !

I am much younger than you and I know I would be totaly exhausted after 2 sessions like this.

[vinapu]

You finally get your hands on Tam? Nice! I can understand the excitement completely and with your expectation lowered down, things can only go better if he does more than expected lol.

To me, i will respect the boy's limitations but that might not stop me from trying to persuade him lol.

Probably the most annoying thing a boy could do to me would be rushing things and want everything to end quickly.

It was only time this trip when I took boy without waiting for his smile , this time  neglecting my own rule worked well.

 

Body wise for me he is close to perfection , can't think about better built specimen but he 's straight to the bone so while smiling nicely passion is absent , even false one. 

 

Prime body worshipping material but not  quasi boyfriend one. I will off him in the future  given chance and  if he recognizes me and smiles.  With outlining limitation he was surprisingly easy going, just showering together with such a hunk was  worth expense I thought while still wet, LOL.

 

Respecting boys  reasonable limits it a must , otherwise meeting may be wasted with one side feeling disrespected but reasonable is a key word. I had a case when boy did not even undress and still wanted full tip ! Others had ones who refused to shower, even alone. This is not even close to reasonable limit.

 

  From time to time  boys may try to manipulate us and when this happens I don't think we even need to be nice, it's better to pay , even full tip if unavoidable and invite him to see other side of door. I should do this with day 8 ToyBoys boy  when he left room for first time.

 

As for persuasion and trying to expand boys limit it actually very nice game and often pays if one is patient , works better on second  or subsequent off when boys know us  / and trust  / better. Can be lot of fun to try to steal his kiss not to mention classic top to bottom conversion. 

 

For me as well rushing things and trying to leave before I make hint he can is gravest sin of them all to extend that I rather have a sandbag overstaying his welcome than passionate 1/2 hour finished with "I must go now" according top classic ' you cum , I go script'. But others may react differently losing an interest fast after the deed.

 

All above notwithstanding this trip provided me with the lesson and right away on the first night -  if you really like the boy it may pay to put an ideology aside , overlook his previous infractions and give him not second but even third chance.

 

My gut feeling did not fail me and pleasure was doubled not only by boy's  passion  but also fact that it was not even expected looking in the past. 

[vinapu]

I wish there was a “SUPER Liked” button here!

 

There must be a guardian angel smiling at you on Day 11, as you often mention it.

First ex porn star and Mr Tam #60? You are so lucky.

When I visited old Jupiter earlier this year and last year, he seemed almost always “reserved” for customer i.e. without number tag, I was wondering how far ahead I need to make an appointment to off him.

He is undoubtedly one of the star of Bangkok gogo scene and certainly has a star quality.

I saw him entering Jupiter as a customer accompanying a female client in June it seemed the whole bar lighted up with his smile! I was too wondering why he left and didn’t come back to the new Jupiter.

I could hire him just for holding his hand.

 

Last year I spotted Tawan boys, Boy#15( left for good) & Phet #51 (entertained you in Day 1) a couple times at a food stall called “ Thaniya Bar Beer” opposite side of Thaniya plaza in Thaniya.

Last month, I also saw Jupiter boy Bang#69 drinking in the place where many Thaniya bar girls eat after work.

The place offer excellent Chim Chum. Highly recommend.

 

P.S. I reported you Bang left Jupiter for good incorrectly.

Apparently he left because of a bad customer incident but decided to return as he has no money. lol

now that you mentioned it I think it's great idea but to avoid inflation I'd restrict use of SUPER LIKE to 1-3  a day max.

That's true sometimes posts are moving us and deserve to be marked as such.

 

"I DON'T LIKE " button would be useful too , if only to avoid excessive bitching and arguments trading ping-pong.

 

That's true , day 11 was one of those I felt were worth flying all the way just for 1 such day. I'm proud of myself of quick  acting seeing #60 tag still on the man, forget waiting for smile , just run and grab thought I.

 

Booking an appointment ahead  would take some fun for me although I did it many times but usually with boys I offed already before.

I also use ' would I off him just to hold hands?" criteria to assess boy's quality. There were few like this this trip , life is good.

 

Boy #15 apparently according to one of mamasans found another job. I'm not very sentimental about boys and remember there's  lot of fish in the see  but him I missed truly and with bleeding heart. He had his charms , body and endowements but first of all he had personality. I owe him one of nicest memories of all my trips there, we were walking from Tawan to BBB Inn and he was genuinely happy , doesn't matter it was greed , hunger or me but happy marching with me he was.

 

Phet #51 is still busy and popular, only reason I did not off him again was that whenever I was in bar he was absent  or dressed ready to go with lucky somebody.

 

Yes I noticed it that Thaniya seems to be popular with bar boys after shift- saw few Jupiter boys eating there or passing by so it may  be good after hours hunting ground for those still empty handed or trying to economize.  

[vinapu]

Great report Vinapu although I am totaly amazed that after this 2 intensive sessions with boys you try to find another one for the rest of the night !

I am much younger than you and I know I would be totaly exhausted after 2 sessions like this.

 

I like to wake up with somebody smooth, brown skinned with cock attached in the same bed if only for the feeling but morning gymnastics are energizing. If you want something usually energy to find it comes along although not always hunt yields.

 

I think I'm motivated enough by curiosity to learn of what happens next, only thing left on me from that long gone youth. 

[vinapu]

Day 12

    For a change lonely breakfast at Foodland , then some internet and a bit of tourist program.

I took Chao Praya Express boat  to Tha Thewet pier / 15 baht / , than walked to Bank of Thailand museum newly opened in old palace near Rama VIII bridge.

 

 

that's the bridge as seen from the grounds

 

 

Weekdays museum is opened by an appointment only for groups of at least 20 but on Saturdays there’s free access with 4 guided tours at 10.30, 11.30, 12.30 and 1.30, each tour takes 100 visitors on first come, first served basis. Since today is only Thursday  I was turned away but it was expected. From there tuk-tuk to Sanam Luang to get a glimpse of structure containing crematorium for the  late King funeral in October.

 

Did not see much as area is fenced off , construction still going and hordes of both mourners and tourists crowding sidewalks and streets. But people watching was interesting and I had another motive in mind.

 

Today Bank Of Thailand released for circulation new banknotes commemorating life of the late King. Faces are identical to currently circulated but reverses are different showing different scenes from monarch’s life and   works. I was prepared to pay premium, there were few vendors offering them for 2000 per set while  face value is 1670 (20, 50, 100, 500 and 1000 ) but I found somebody offering set for 1800, reasonable 130 baht extra and purchased it meeting  my goal for the day.

 

 

To return I took Chao Praya Turist Boat, more expensive than regular boat but with guaranteed seat. It circulates between Saphan Taksin and Tha Thewet , departures are every 30 minutes . Day ticket costs 180 allowing unlimited hop-on, hop-off option while one ride one can be purchased for 50 and this is what I did. 3 times cost of regular boat but still very reasonable and comfortable and comfortable with announcements in English. It’s not new concept but now is much better organized and easy to go about, Recommended wholeheartedly, worth extra 35 baht.

 

At 6 I was expecting Christian PFC, jet lag disappeared long time ago so this time I could open door, not like 1 week ago when I felled down  to jet lag and did not even hear his knocking.

 

We discussed sightseeing plans for tonight and tomorrow, I showed him new banknotes and we went to Madrid Tavern in Patpong for treat of their pizzas . As usual we ordered two different and shared them 50/50 but there pizza is always good, whatever one chooses and this comes from vinapu who normally doesn’t even consider pizza fit for human consumption.

 

I shared with him my impressions from week in Pattaya and Christian suggested  we  check on Super A in soi 6. Off we went. Since my last visit in May 2015 they spruced it a bit , it seemed cleaner and lights a bit brighter although it’s still pretty dark inside. Even nicer surprise were boys , although dressed in jeans and shirts quite a few out of about 8 present turned out to be quite good looking , not hunky but boy next door types,  at least three offing material for me.

 

 

Christian is more demanding but even him spied somebody attractive who disappeared upstairs to sleep but he did not accept excuse and asked to bring boy downstairs  to treat him with a tip. In meantime some other farang appeared and I invited one of boys for a drink and gentle indecent touches which shortly turned out to be more smart than I thought. Heavens opened with an impressive rain and we were trapped inside , not a bad thing considering both us  were entertained by somebody we liked.

 

 

Just before 9 p.m. rain suddenly stopped and we left , my companion 300 baht richer than before rain.   Whole soi 6 was under ankle deep water but fortunately Christian had flip-flops and I some plastic Birkenstocks so we just waded through it to Suriwong.

 

 

Passing by Tawan we just peek inside but as expected Christian did not see anybody even remotely attractive and I had other plans for tonight. Surprisingly , few minutes after such heavy rain streets came to life like nothing happened.

 

 Next stop was Hot Male  upstairs and we arrived just before show. Other than us there were only 2 other patrons but they decided to carry on with show anyways . On stage I recognized few boys from the past , few tips were distributed , Christian also met few faces already known to him and shorty after the show we parted our ways. He went home and I set for Jupiter in soi 4 hoping to finally reunite with Oud, successful transplant from Tawan and boy I offed already 8 times this century.

 

 

Show was almost over last number being shower show Oud was in so  I did not wait long and as soon as he was free we set of to Thaniya to get some food. I walked and he came soon  after on his new shiny motorcycle , donation  from  his Chinese lady customer I saw in the bar last week. Now how I look like being called two week millionaire here in comparison of such lavish compensation ? I feel like cheap Charlie on sale, LOL..

 

But I did not expect any fuss and rightly so from boy who always calls me ‘my vinapu’ and once claimed ‘if you happy I happy”. Only thing I noticed was that with his recent good fortune he was bit more confident than before and it showed even on the stage. He treated himself with some insects treats but I politely declined to partake.

 

As expected from such a veteran of many offs in the room all went according to well rehearsed routine we have  minus serious reduction in whisky we shared – looks he is serious about being now motorcycle driver. In the morning he even made sure I’m happy by asking “ do you like me ? ”

 

 Usual 3000 LT tip accepted with smile, this was part we did not discuss beforehand as I assumed with so many offs before we both know what we get from each other.

 

Again , motorcycle trip to Foodland Patpong for breakfast , slightly  unusual as for drink he asked for milk, second only time I saw Thai boy  drinking milk. I finish day 12 by being driven on his impressive machine to Hualampong but this is story for day 13.

[ct2005]

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Last year I spotted Tawan boys, Boy#15( left for good) & Phet #51 (entertained you in Day 1) a couple times at a food stall called “ Thaniya Bar Beer” opposite side of Thaniya plaza in Thaniya.

Last month, I also saw Jupiter boy Bang#69 drinking in the place where many Thaniya bar girls eat after work.

The place offer excellent Chim Chum. Highly recommend.

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I took a screen capture from Google Map. The right-most side is the Thaniya Plaza? Is this "Thaniya Bar Beer" stall on the left-most side of this photo below? Is it one of those roadside makeshift night stalls?

 

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Yes I noticed it that Thaniya seems to be popular with bar boys after shift- saw few Jupiter boys eating there or passing by so it may  be good after hours hunting ground for those still empty handed or trying to economize.  

 

How do you do it if let's say you walk past that spot "Thaniya Bar Beer" stall & discover a few of the Tawan boys sitting there eating & chatting? How to approach them & ask one of them for a possible ST/LT off?

 

 

[Jasper]

ct2005,

Thaniya Bar Beer is a roadside makeshift night time only food stall on the Soi direct opposite to Thaniya Plaza’s car park entrance.

 

Attached is a daytime view of the Soi.

[Jasper]

Thanks again for great report. I pressed the imaginary SUPER LIKE button again.

[vinapu]

 

How do you do it if let's say you walk past that spot "Thaniya Bar Beer" stall & discover a few of the Tawan boys sitting there eating & chatting? How to approach them & ask one of them for a possible ST/LT off?

 

 

 

It would depend if boy is sitting alone or with others and also of I know boy personally  from previous offs or jus from seeing him in bar.

 

Boy sitting alone -  If I offed him previously and I liked experience   I'd join him immediately even if not intended to off  him , probably ordered drink for both of us , chated him a bit and most likely  offered to pay for his meal if any. This should improve karma and chances of getting that smile next time I see him on the stage.

 

If I know him only from bar but never met before I'd leave him alone if not intended to off him tonight unless we got an eye contact than I'd say ' Hi mister Tawan / Jupiter / Super A/ whatever" thus giving me a chance for that smile in the bar next time. The same if I meet boy walking on the street, always greet him if we got an eye contact.

 

If I like to off sitting alone boy in any case I'd approach, invite myself to seat beside /across the table  and without much decorum ask him ' are you free tonight" if 'yes" ' do you go with me tonight" , if 'Yes" than do my usual time and tip negotiations .

 

Boys are in the business so no need to built sophisticated conversation structures.

 

If boy is sitting  with other boys I'd first try to get an eye contact and if got one motion him to step for second of semi- private chat. 

If no eye contact achieved I'd not be stepping to join a party unless 100% sure all members of party are bar boys - this is sometimes a case of Tawan boys having drink in front of 7/11 after bar closed. With their boys since my face is somewhat recognized by at least a few I's not have any hang ups of joining them if  only to have a chat or shake hands.

 

But generally as always I try not to push myself into boy's arms to to speak but rather wait for a signal from him he is interested or at least he acknowledges my presence.

 

Case of #60 on day 11 was an exception , due to his popularity I decided to act right away. It was the same with Mekhin from old Jupiter in December.  I remember old song my father used to hum 'good luck smiles at us only once" and sometimes it pays to forget about our own rules and inhibitions.

 

Hope it helped

[farangyai]

I totally enjoy your posts and makes me miss being there to enjoy the same things you do. Thanks for posting.

[spoon]

Not enough with just reading your report, my fav boy also recently updated his line profile picture with a shirtless body posing like in a competition lol and another 8 or so pictures of him competing. Made me want to go to bkk even more now.

[vinapu]

Not enough with just reading your report, my fav boy also recently updated his line profile picture with a shirtless body 

who is your favorite boy? do I know him?

[ct2005]

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Hope it helped

It certainly did!

 

Don't laugh... but I am the type of person who needs specific step by step guide in dealing with something that I am unfamiliar with.

 

I keep wondering on how to approach a boy ... Do I stand nearby at some corners and stalk the boy? Do I keep walking past them till they take notice? Do I go forward to tap his shoulder and ask to talk to him privately? Haha ... most probably I would never do such things. The most elegant way is still to have an eye contact before more interaction can follow. That means I cannot remain inconspicuous while in the bar. I have to make some eye contacts with the boys for them to have an impression of me.

 

Thanks for the long post in detailing the various scenarios and what to do. Detailed trip reports like yours are my survival guide for having a good time in Bangkok and much more.

[spoon]

who is your favorite boy? do I know him?

DB #44 lol. He competes during very recent asia fitness expo in bangkok

[vinapu]

DB #44 lol. He competes during very recent asia fitness expo in bangkok

thank you for answering , did not have pleasure I believe 

[vinapu]

Don't laugh... but I am the type of person who needs specific step by step guide in dealing with something that I am unfamiliar with.

 

I keep wondering on how to approach a boy ... Do I stand nearby at some corners and stalk the boy? Do I keep walking past them till they take notice? Do I go forward to tap his shoulder and ask to talk to him privately? Haha ... most probably I would never do such things. The most elegant way is still to have an eye contact before more interaction can follow. That means I cannot remain inconspicuous while in the bar. I have to make some eye contacts with the boys for them to have an impression of me.

 

Thanks for the long post in detailing the various scenarios and what to do. Detailed trip reports like yours are my survival guide for having a good time in Bangkok and much more.

I'm last to laugh at this type or queries. Man hunting situations are sometimes  awkward.

 

I never know why I feel a little bit nervous when I got to Arena and Senso but never feel like that with all other places. Don't ask me why because I don't know.

Certainly not shyness, Dit from Arena is boy I met more than any other in Thailand and at least 5 other boys I met already are still working there, when inside I feel like at home but on approach I'm still recycled virgin.

 

There's boy at BBB Pattaya I chalked 10 offs with , 8 LT and he still seems uncomfortable showering together, again no idea why.

 

There's no  cover it all receipt on approaching boy one has an interest in, it all depends of situation but I employ that already mentioned rule - he must acknowledge my presence . Truly as you described it , elegant way.

 

Is not difficult though, boys being in the escort business are keen on exploring opportunities and combing environment with their eyes so in short, they may find you sooner than you find them. Just stay tuned

[vinapu]

Day 13

Disclaimer first : all pictures in today’s post are courtesy of ChristianPFC posted here with his

permission, thank you Christian

 

During bar hopping yesterday we decided to materialize earlier plans to see Chang Chui creative area and Christian suggested that on occasion we visit some rural temples in the area so it’s why this morning world saw us boarding 9.20 train to Hua Hin and about 40 minutes later we  left train at Bang Bamru station, impressive white elephant. Bangkok suburban station taking roughly  15 trains a day in each direction but built on impressive scale for reason perhaps even Buddha couldn’t comprehend but certainly whoever made money from construction,  did.

 

To give you and impression, man’s toilet has no less than 17 urinals, that’s seventeen. Perhaps more than in whole Grand Central  station in NYC.

 

But that’s not my problem, we set to our first object Wat Chelo by foot , it did not take long as it’s about 2 km from station and it’s interesting to see how rapidly urban scenery is changing to a village one.

 

 

As you see Wat Chelo is an impressive temple and if was located in city center most likely would be mobbed by tour buses day and night due to unique architecture of temple on the boat.

But where it is , short distance from city’s hustle and bustle it was quiet and serene  and we had it almost to ourselves to explore.

 

Behind the temple is a khlong / channel / easily crossed by the  bridge and on another side we have real village with village’s sounds and smells and village temples and shrines we visited to heed Christian motto that day without visiting temple in Thailand is day lost. Watch his blog as sooner or later he will post his impressions from that trip. 

 

village temple 

 

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Then further on he lead us to once abandoned and ruined temple , now partially resuscitated

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Village dogs guarding it were quite jealous barking hostile but leaving our legs intact on departure. After short stroll through village paths we found glimpse of civilization , road with roadside restaurant where we were only customers on arrival but by time we left all few tables were occupied – sign that we came at lunch time. Christian treated us with lunch , I don’t remember what I eat but it was certainly very tasty and filling, Thai cuisine at it’s best.  

 

 

In meantime monsoon started to be more active with clouds gathering but by time rain arrived we managed to cover some distance to another temple which we could see only from outside as it was in process of renovation  about which we were sternly reminded by lady in charge of the door ‘ You, no !” when we tried to enter.

 

Our survey of BKK outskirts was interrupted by the rain which we outwaited in the nearby bus shelter and after hour or so there we continued back to civilization which appeared  as a railway line so we covered few km on the tracks included crossing few canals on the bridge, quite

 “ Indiana Jones for the poor “  experience  specially when my 2 $ umbrella slipped from my had and felled to a chasm 3 meters below.

 

Main reminder we are not completely in the wild was  cemetery of old plane engines following tracks for a  while but guarded by  a fence and small khlong , wide enough to prevent us from jumping over.

 

Back in BKK we went to Chang Chui place , well visible mainly due to airplane parked in the middle and after paying 20 baht admission we were greeted by the sight of  ‘memento mori “ exhibit.

 

 

Wandered  around shops, exhibits , even had pizza in their pizzeria, not  bad tasting but still distant relative of one from Madrid Patpong. Chang Chui was introduced to us here by reader in the post

http://www.gaythailand.com/forums/topic/11336-chang-chui-bangkoks-newest-creative-space/?hl=%2Bchang+%2Bchui

thank you reader.

 

It was pretty quiet and perhaps is busier in the evening but it’s clearly aimed at urban motorized yuppies and artsy types as getting there and from by public transport while possible is a bit tedious as we learned on return. While train from Bang Bamru would be best option there was none for next 1.5 hr. so we opted for a bus and it was quite a walk to get to a stop , quite a walk for bus to arrive – it was 5 p.m. on Friday so Bangkok  congestion at it’s best.

 

We took bus 149 going all the way to Sathorn so very tempting. Christian got off somewhere  in between  and I continued toward  Saphan Taksin which was quite breezy but after bus turned toward bridge  we were stuck in the traffic for good and it took exactly 70 minutes to cross the bridge, not a minute less.

 

Driver did not open door so we were trapped inside and for 50 minutes I was quite upset but than , always looking for full half of glass I realized that trap produces substantial savings as my plan was to go to Senso, do your math. 1490 for 1.5 massage and minimum tip 1800 , if M or Jack would be there  it could be 2000.  Long live Bangkok bus thought I after 70 minutes alighting in front of Surasak station and taking BTS home to Nantra.

 

 

My advice to anybody taking Bangkok buses or taxis is to take it to nearest BTS or MRT  whatever it is , continue by rails as close to your destination as possible and then again bus or taxi to a goal.

 

Very busy ,  full of impressions and rare sights thanks to Christian day so I rested  and desoiled myself a bit and for last unrushed night in Thailand ( I still have another night but with morning  departure I will be watching clock a bit ) I couldn’t pick up another bar seeking for companion than Tawan so off I went greeted by few smiles of boys I treated with offs and tips in the past and those who are keen pretenders to those in the future.

 

Few red notes were tucked inside of their briefs. To my surprise one of boys on the stage , #8 was completely out of place , regular twink , not even aspiring body builder , one our resident twink admirers would be happy to contemplate to take home. Possibly they decided to diversify a bit.

 

Tonight I had sights on #6 , Dum, I noticed him keenly in Dec and was glad to see him this time. Issan native with very black skin and full , African like lips. Could be taken for a black boy. Well and proportionally built , not  a bodybuilder but muscular type and smooth like a baby, knowing that I have sights on him ( one night passing by boys drinking after Tawan closed I told him one day he is mine) called by mamasan  because I did not see him come all in smiles.

 

Boon #48 was making motions from the stage hoping he will be my choice again but even him when saw Dum at my sight made an approving , fingers up,  gesture.

 

I was watching show a bit but mixture of fatigue after such  a busy day and curiosity how new for be boy turns out I decided to grab him and run. We skipped usual food part as he was not hungry and I had something in the room before going to bar as well.

 

As I said , at Tawan I’m marked men so of course his tip request was inflated, but I settled on 4000 I paid to other two their boys hoping I get value for my money ( and stabilize some heart beat rates of people reading this ). Gamble paid off , absolute gem,  quite passionate and those lips !!!.

 

He was not in rush to go home but I had some morning plans so at 8  asked him to come at 3 p. m.  for a short round ,  he agreed we were both happy happy marching to Foodland for a  customary breakfast    finishing another impressive day , this time 13^th of this trip.

 

I was planning to place few more pictures from our  trip  in this post but can't upload them so I gave up,  my apologies 

[ct2005]

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As I said , at Tawan I’m marked men so of course his tip request was inflated, but I settled on 4000 I paid to other two their boys hoping I get value for my money ( and stabilize some heart beat rates of people reading this ). ..

You have "UP" the game so to speak. I just hope the 4000 LT off fee wouldn't be the standard rate for other clients from now onward.

[Boy69]

OMG 4000 BHT and off fee and drinks not included...

You're certainly a marked men at Tawan ,the wet dream customer for every Tawan boy .

[paulsf]

Many of us are willing to pay for what we want, and some aren’t. No right or wrong.

[faranglaw]

my favorites if you ask apart from Bangkok are Istanbul, Paris, London , Berlin , Toronto, Rome and New York

 

I love all those cities. We have similar taste in cities, opposite taste in boys. I would go back to Paris, Istanbul, or Rome in a heartbeat. But now DH wants to go to Spain and Portugal, and has Prague on the list too. And DH always seems to get his way. Funny thing about marrying a Thai man...