Somewhat dry rainy season - Thailand trip of Sept 2017

[vinapu]

I have returned to Alt Heidelberg three times since you left and introduced another friend to their delicious Wiener Schnitzel. The boss should look after you for finding new customers next time you visit Pattaya.

 

Even though not your style i am sure some of the twinks at Nice Boys and Winner bar were saved from starvation that night with your attendance. Maybe an illusion but I do believe i saw a twink sitting on your lap? Of course, just to be sociable on your behalf with no hunks in sight.

 

 

I'm glad you liked Alt Heidelberg  it and hope they still be around when I return.That signature dish there  it's just as one I remember as Sunday dinner from home.

 

Twinks are not my style but I'm not ideological about that like some members who are proud of never setting foot in say , Tawan .

From time to time I give twinks a chance and visit their bars regularly.

 

Sure it was not illusion, you saw it rightly , employing them to lap sitting position is my way of saving them, from starvation.

When visit bar and expect to sit there for  a bit , usually I call some boy over just to have somebody warm sitting beside. Doesn't cost much and we both happy.

 

Yes BBB is doing fine large selection of boys, good show ,nice ambiance and prime location. The best go go bar in Thailand .

that's my assessment as well even if I like Tawan boys better

 

How to get enjoy a good/eventful LT off with boy and at the same time have a good night of sleep? I am not sure if it can be achieved.

 

I like the idea of LT off with a hunky man by my side & to wake up to. But if the boy has a day job and has to leave at a certain hour, I always wonder would it be too demanding to have another round (albeit a more tone-down version) in the morning. From what I read, it does happen if the boy is of the twink type. Most probably, it will not happen for hunky type of boys.

It can't  as far as I can see but I go to Thailand to enjoy good /. eventful  LT with the boys and can't care less about having good night sleep. How I do it , I don't even know , it must be an adrenaline but I sleep very little and as illustrated still drive big hunks to a desperation , LOL

 

Boys are not machines and activities need to be tailored to their ability. From my experience , even those who need to leave early are not against early morning activities. That hunks are against morning activities , that's novelty to me.

 

Making a mental note of keow, art for my future reference.

Seems like bbb is the pattaya version of dreamboys. 

you  will be happy with either one for sure.

 

Yes , BBB are packing an audience nightly just like Dreamboys.

And if pricing level is too high there are other bars within 10 m radius.

But 800 off fee for the show boys even such liberal person as me considers unreasonable but if needs to be paid I rather gnash my teeth and pay instead of missing a date with boy I like.

[vinapu]

 Are you saying Ambiance Massage (called bbb massage or something?) and copa massage are now collecting a 500 baht minimum tips for the boy? I only recall Scandic collects a full fee upfront (from memory it was 1400 b presumbly 400-500 is for the house and the rest goes to the masseur) but admittedly have not tried bbb or copa massages for a while. Can't say I like the system as I wonder whether the shops 'exploit' the boys and extract more money meant for the boys.

Ambiance massage is called Body CLub I guess.

 

As long as I remember all three, Copa , Body Club and Scandic were always collecting boy minimum tip up front. I always check with boys what is their share and tip accordingly i.e . if his tip is 500 from price I paid I give him at least 500 since my usual rate for 1 hr massage is 1000 at least , more if I like boy or massage or both better.

 

I don't think shops are cheating boys, those I had more than once would say something I guess

 

When I took Kao from Copa , receptionist asked him how much he should charge and I paid 400 requested. Thus I know what is boy's share,presumably Kao told him I'm safe and he is sure I will tip him  fairly / he got 1200 /

[vinapu]

I wonder if taking a boy after midnight and he leaves at 4 am can be consider as LT at all, I would pay ST for such kind of service.

 

I think Vinapu is very kind person with really a good heart and the boys are taking advantage on this .

As stated many times before I tend to fix tip beforehand, Sure , time is very important to me  but I don't bother with LT  / ST classifications. "I will stay till 4 " , "how much you want" is negotiation's tune I employ.

 

I doubt I'm kind and don't mind to be classified as having good heart , I'm just not as preoccupied with compensation issues as to count every satang. I like to be happy and boys to be happy too , at end of day it works for me. Few nights this trip were really fabulous but at times , yes,  boys are pissing me off.  See day 8 report in few minutes.

 

Brutal  truth  about last trip is - most expensive offs were the most enjoyable, market economy at it's best  it seems as I got what I paid for. 

[vinapu]

Day 8

 

Today is last day I have hotel reservation in New Café Royal  and one I planned to make a decision what to do in next two days- stay in Pattaya or return to Bangkok. If stay in Pattaya , question to answer is where, still in BT or  move to either  Sunee or Jomtien. This was plan devised before I came here.

 

This morning in view of last two days I don’t have any doubts what I want to do  - stay here in BT where I belong and have fun so far.

 

Handsome receptionist in New Café Royal was kind  to leave me in the same room for the same price I paid originally with benefit of breakfast for two as in original reservation. I paid 2720 for those additional two nights and took motorsai taxi to Bali Hai pier to buy tickets for  ferry to Hua Hin and back. This I had planned in case I will stay in Pattaya. I don’t have any interest in Hua Hin but for fun wanted to see how this new acclaimed ferry works.

 

Ferry has separate ticket office in the pier building on the 2nd floor and is very well posted, There was no problem with getting ticket but girl there seemed to find exotic an idea of me sailing there and immediately back in the same day and called another girl with  better  English. I can swear that Thai words she said to her were something like ‘ this farang is  so stupid I can’t believe so you better confirm  if I’m hearing him right” . Confirmed that this is what I really want I got my tickets .

 

For trip there business class for 1550 and for sailing back economy one for 1250, total of 2800, sounds  like off fee, drink and boy’s tip. I was instructed to be at pier 1 hour before once a day 10 a.m. departure.

 

Rest of day spent wandering lazily here and there about Pattaya sois and Beach Rd with sole aim of wasting time and energy. After al today is breaking point of my trip and from evening I’m closer to departure than arrival. Just before sun set another dinner in Alt Heidelberg restaurant. Wait for my  meal shortened by being chatted up by typical example of one of sad faced  Pattaya expats with litany of complains how expensive it is and how demanding and greedy girls become   in comparison to glory days of past and even my habitual phrase that in the past even water was more wet    was met with approving and compassionate understanding.

 

Then is was time to return to soi and as usual have a seat at Oscars where I found williewillie parked already boys in conversation with freshly arrived in Thailand two young Russians. I did not waste that opportunity to switch to Russian if only to impress them and boost my self-esteem by them being impressed. It worked, LOL. Since they expressed an interest in special show we instructed them to check XBoys .

 

 

In meantime I kept an eye on goings around BBB and for a good reason  - I wanted another massage from Art .As it turned he also was keeping watchful eye and as soon as he saw me he came to make sure I’m still interested in his company tonight.  Mutual understanding at it’s best. At 9.00 p.m. I went to the bar , paid off fee of 500 and we marched back to hotel , not sure who was happier but we both were.

 

Still he did not want long time but was not in the rush to leave so we had good 2.50 – 3 hrs together not exactly spent discussing world peace but some conversation we had. Again great , fast paced , long stoked massage and great time together, another candidate for only hand holding session.

 

 

I actually never did it but for my personal use if I  classify boy they I could off him only to hold hands with him , dressed or not, it means he is top of top of the line for me. There are few of those brilliants  still in business and at end of day primary reason to fly half globe across.

 

Just before midnigt  he left and I was in no mood to sleep in the cold bed so decided to check only bar in the soi I did not visit this trip, you are right – Toy Boy. Since there’s circulating opinion that those lingering outside are just bait or available for girls only I was not even in the mood to check accuracy of those claims and went inside. 

 

As before and it was not my first time in that bar on offer are mostly twinks , among them one Vietnamese boy discussed and showed in this forum not long ago. Nice face but slim bodied I kind of had problem to chose one I’d like to take with me , few were smiling at me , making inviting gestures etc so finally settled on one who had hair style I like.  If can’t have muscle at least I will have some face to look at. Waved over drink bought to smooth  up an  interview process. Long time OK  wants 2500,  2000 offer accepted. Usual question ‘ do you want et something?’ answered ‘yes”   ,” where you want to go?” , ‘up to you” so we went to my favorite metal tables on corner of soi where XBoys are but half way to,  all of the  sudden he changed mind that he is not hungry and we can go to the room.

 

So we went and it was quite OK but after few hours , it was like 4 a.m. he woke me up asking for some money because he wants to go to Wat Chai to buy some food because he’s hungry. Not a good sign so I gave him half agreed tip / 1000/ and went to bed not even sure he will return- I had cases  like that ending with no-show.

 

But after while knock to door wake me up, he was back. Then in 15 minutes he needs to smoke, OK open window and smoke. Back to bed for ½ hr. perhaps  , he needs to go to 7/11 to buy some cigarettes and a beer.

 

 

Firm candidate to one of  worst offs  ever thought I and when he returned , opened beer for me and him and after few gulps asked whether he can go I gave  him my permission and other 1000 of agreed tip,  happy him and happy me that he is gone. 

 

So much for those economical long time rates I thought. Since it was 6 a.m. already I decided on early breakfast and waiter did  not say anything but clearly was  a bit surprised seeing me sitting alone . 

 

 

Not exactly thrilling  end of day 8 but look at full half of glass – at least it was over.

[ct2005]

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did not waste that opportunity to switch to Russian if only to impress them and boost my self-esteem by them being impressed. It worked, LOL. Since they expressed an interest in special show we instructed them to check XBoys .

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Vinapu speaks Russian ... now that's hot!

[williewillie]

Vinapu speaks Russian ... now that's hot!

The two Russian boys were thrilled to have someone to talk to in Russian. Both were blond hunks in their twenties.

vinapu said his Russian was rusty but it seemed fluent to me. I did wonder if some lucky gay Thai boy ended up in

a three some with the young Russians or maybe a straight top with young farangs for a change.

[Boy69]

Day 8

 

Today is last day I have hotel reservation in New Café Royal and one I planned to make a decision what to do in next two days- stay in Pattaya or return to Bangkok. If stay in Pattaya , question to answer is where, still in BT or move to either Sunee or Jomtien. This was plan devised before I came here.

 

This morning in view of last two days I don’t have any doubts what I want to do - stay here in BT where I belong and have fun so far.

 

Handsome receptionist in New Café Royal was kind to leave me in the same room for the same price I paid originally with benefit of breakfast for two as in original reservation. I paid 2720 for those additional two nights and took motorsai taxi to Bali Hai pier to buy tickets for ferry to Hua Hin and back. This I had planned in case I will stay in Pattaya. I don’t have any interest in Hua Hin but for fun wanted to see how this new acclaimed ferry works.

 

Ferry has separate ticket office in the pier building on the 2nd floor and is very well posted, There was no problem with getting ticket but girl there seemed to find exotic an idea of me sailing there and immediately back in the same day and called another girl with better English. I can swear that Thai words she said to her were something like ‘ this farang is so stupid I can’t believe so you better confirm if I’m hearing him right” . Confirmed that this is what I really want I got my tickets .

 

For trip there business class for 1550 and for sailing back economy one for 1250, total of 2800, sounds like off fee, drink and boy’s tip. I was instructed to be at pier 1 hour before once a day 10 a.m. departure.

 

Rest of day spent wandering lazily here and there about Pattaya sois and Beach Rd with sole aim of wasting time and energy. After al today is breaking point of my trip and from evening I’m closer to departure than arrival. Just before sun set another dinner in Alt Heidelberg restaurant. Wait for my meal shortened by being chatted up by typical example of one of sad faced Pattaya expats with litany of complains how expensive it is and how demanding and greedy girls become in comparison to glory days of past and even my habitual phrase that in the past even water was more wet was met with approving and compassionate understanding.

 

Then is was time to return to soi and as usual have a seat at Oscars where I found williewillie parked already boys in conversation with freshly arrived in Thailand two young Russians. I did not waste that opportunity to switch to Russian if only to impress them and boost my self-esteem by them being impressed. It worked, LOL. Since they expressed an interest in special show we instructed them to check XBoys .

 

 

In meantime I kept an eye on goings around BBB and for a good reason - I wanted another massage from Art .As it turned he also was keeping watchful eye and as soon as he saw me he came to make sure I’m still interested in his company tonight. Mutual understanding at it’s best. At 9.00 p.m. I went to the bar , paid off fee of 500 and we marched back to hotel , not sure who was happier but we both were.

 

Still he did not want long time but was not in the rush to leave so we had good 2.50 – 3 hrs together not exactly spent discussing world peace but some conversation we had. Again great , fast paced , long stoked massage and great time together, another candidate for only hand holding session.

 

 

I actually never did it but for my personal use if I classify boy they I could off him only to hold hands with him , dressed or not, it means he is top of top of the line for me. There are few of those brilliants still in business and at end of day primary reason to fly half globe across.

 

Just before midnigt he left and I was in no mood to sleep in the cold bed so decided to check only bar in the soi I did not visit this trip, you are right – Toy Boy. Since there’s circulating opinion that those lingering outside are just bait or available for girls only I was not even in the mood to check accuracy of those claims and went inside.

 

As before and it was not my first time in that bar on offer are mostly twinks , among them one Vietnamese boy discussed and showed in this forum not long ago. Nice face but slim bodied I kind of had problem to chose one I’d like to take with me , few were smiling at me , making inviting gestures etc so finally settled on one who had hair style I like. If can’t have muscle at least I will have some face to look at. Waved over drink bought to smooth up an interview process. Long time OK wants 2500, 2000 offer accepted. Usual question ‘ do you want et something?’ answered ‘yes” ,” where you want to go?” , ‘up to you” so we went to my favorite metal tables on corner of soi where XBoys are but half way to, all of the sudden he changed mind that he is not hungry and we can go to the room.

 

So we went and it was quite OK but after few hours , it was like 4 a.m. he woke me up asking for some money because he wants to go to Wat Chai to buy some food because he’s hungry. Not a good sign so I gave him half agreed tip / 1000/ and went to bed not even sure he will return- I had cases like that ending with no-show.

 

But after while knock to door wake me up, he was back. Then in 15 minutes he needs to smoke, OK open window and smoke. Back to bed for ½ hr. perhaps , he needs to go to 7/11 to buy some cigarettes and a beer.

 

 

Firm candidate to one of worst offs ever thought I and when he returned , opened beer for me and him and after few gulps asked whether he can go I gave him my permission and other 1000 of agreed tip, happy him and happy me that he is gone.

 

So much for those economical long time rates I thought. Since it was 6 a.m. already I decided on early breakfast and waiter did not say anything but clearly was a bit surprised seeing me sitting alone .

 

 

Not exactly thrilling end of day 8 but look at full half of glass – at least it was over.

Good decision staying in Pattaya and go for one day trip to Hua Hin.

 

2 notes :

 

Instead of you I would upgrade to the suite room at Le Cafe Royal spacious room with a bath and balcony and not much expensive than the standard one.

 

I don't agree with you that because you paid 'only' 2000 Baht the off was lousy it just happened that the boy was not good. my best boys were almost free one from Ayutaya a maseur that after the massage hang with me couple days and didn't want any money,one freelancer boy from Pattaya beach and other freelancer from Sunee plaza both asked only 500 Bhat from me.

[spoon]

If i remember correctly, it was you who employ the "if u leave before breakfast, ill only pay your 1k bath" rule with boys? Or u didnt do that because the asking tips is low?

[Guest]

 

 I’m not aiming at anybody but at times I’m surprised when people are talking how unsightly Tawan boys are while at the same time admitting they never put foot inside. At least I know what others like and are fond of.

Places like Tawan & BBB often have their boys outside in the street & that's enough for me. 

 

Of course, if they have some cute twinks inside, well of course I miss out due to the advertising out in the street.

[vinapu]

 I did wonder if some lucky gay Thai boy ended up in a three some with the young Russians or maybe a straight top with young farangs for a change.

I'm pretty sure it was a case as they meant business and did not come to Pattaya  for shopping and dining

 

Good decision staying in Pattaya and go for one day trip to Hua Hin.

 

2 notes :

 

Instead of you I would upgrade to the suite room at Le Cafe Royal spacious room with a bath and balcony and not much expensive than the standard one.

 

I don't agree with you that because you paid 'only' 2000 Baht the off was lousy it just happened that the boy was not good.

that's right , I had big fun those two days  / and two LT offs for just 2000 each/

 

some people like to splurge on shopping , others on dining and others still on fancy room in hotels  and that is all fine.

I stay in executive room which was a bit bigger and bit more expensive than standard one and completely sufficient for what I need. I rarely have a need to fancy accommodation and my selling poit to book New Cafe was breakfast for two included in  a rate so I fed myself and most of my boys. Actually one of those days that breakfast was only meal I had in the whole day.

 

I don't think I claimed that off was lousy because I paid only 2000, I just noticed that this trip my best offs by some distance were those I overpaid  ( raising some blood pressures as by product ).

 

But yes , day 8 boy was lousy , I think he did not like me for some reason and that's fine.

 

If i remember correctly, it was you who employ the "if u leave before breakfast, ill only pay your 1k bath" rule with boys? Or u didnt do that because the asking tips is low?

it's why when he decided to go to buy some food in middle of the night I gave him 1000 and truly hoped that he will not return but he did so I decided to stick to my side of bargain as well.

 

Places like Tawan & BBB often have their boys outside in the street & that's enough for me. 

 

Of course, if they have some cute twinks inside, well of course I miss out due to the advertising out in the street.

BBB yes but still about half if not more boys available are staying inside. Usually those who are working long time there are those who are seen on the veranda during show.

 

Tawan no, I  don't recall  boys loitering outside other than drinking on the steps of 7/11 on the corner after bar closes.

 

 As for cute twinks to my surprise on of those nights Tawan presented boy # 8,   real twink completely out of sync with other boys so quite possible they are looking at diversification.

They always had some smaller boys on duty , after all Boy #15 I offed several times from there was not a hunk nor bodybuilder at all.

[vinapu]

Day 9

 

Quite early breakfast left me some time to catch up with news and internet and then leisurely walk to

Bali Hai to catch my ferry to Hua Hin. I was a bit later than recommended 9 a.m., boarding procedures  airport like . In the shaded  waiting room there are no facilities and no bar  so make sure you have something to drink if you think you may need it.

 

For trip there I opted for business class on the upper deck where party room with 8 seats which can be booked for 14000 one way is also located but I did not see any takers.

 

 

Seats are assigned , we were treated with refreshing towel and two drinks and on the dot at 10 a.m.  ferry sailed toward Hua Hin. Sea was quiet, weather sunny and whole trip was very uneventful I even dozed of for a while .  It took exactly 2 hrs to get to Hua Hin pier where passengers were greeted with multitude of taxi touts.  Apparently fare downtown is fixed at 200 baht but me , having only 1 hr in disposal admired climbable  rock rising out  of the sea right at pier and strolled about the beach , quite quiet at that noon hour.

 

Boarding procedures the same, on return trip I economized by taking economy class , at 1250, 300 baht cheaper than business one and comfortable enough. No need to splurge unless one is inclined to or ferry would be crowded which was not a case today, perhaps 20 % of seats were occupied only , if that much.

 

We were treated with drink. It looks that there are facilities for  a bar on the ferry  but nothing was operational so again bring your own refreshments.

Again smooth sailing , just 2 hours from 1 to 3 and Pattaya emerging from the sea looked actually quite impressive on that sunny day.

 

 

Very positive experience and highly recommended as bus trip probably would take 5-6 hrs. Ferry is very comfortable and while 1250 fare is not exactly cheap for Thailand found it good value for money considering comfort and time savings. For those vacationing at either end it provides an option  for nice break for day or two in somebody is inclined. After spending good part of day so far sitting I gladly had a circular walk to BT by way of Tuk Com, passing by quiet Sunee on my way and treating myself with banana pancake somewhere.

 

Back in hotel shower and walk across the soi to Body Club at  Ambiance where since arrival I’m spying very hunky masseur so time to succumb to his mutilations. Other boy I had massage with 2 days ago seemed disappointed it was not him this time but all deserve their access to my pocket and hunks have kind of priority. Great body and strong massage , what was surprising for boy with such  a massive muscular body he was a bit feminine in behavior and speech  or at least that was my impression but with this kind of body I feel he deserved 1500 baht tip.

 

Well massaged went to metal table restaurant near XBoys/ I’m sure she has name , I just did not get it / for    my usual monodietc  treat of chicken with cashew nuts   although as remarked before , in Pattaya Wiener schnitzel from Alt Heidelberg gives cashews run for money.

 

Then my daily beer and fun conversation with boys at Oscars and after   a while jump to BBB hoping Art will be available for 2-3 hr session but he was sitting with some Oriental  lady in the first row helping her to empty sizable bottle of whisky. I noticed one extremely handsome faced boy in track pants on the stage , from mamasan I learned he is Cambodian and I must say so handsome that I just could sit and look at him to no end.

 

Unfortunately after I slipped 100 baht in his pants he disappeared , presumably in preparation for the show and I decided to check 360 bar as they advertised also show at 10.30.

 

 

Very neat and modern , strangely shaped but I liked it. Only 5 spectators , show brief with three numbers but quite well presented and erotic and I liked it. Another,  after ferry and massage at Ambiance with the hunk   positive experience , I’d say 360 would be my 2nd choice as a bar after BBB in Pattaya. Distant second but still second. Sure XBoys has more explicit show but is smoke and loud music infested so only fits on the podium as third . Drink 200.

 

 

About 8 boys , next door type and definitely off material if only I was in PTT longer. Tipped 100 baht one best looking on departure  as is my habit and returned  to soi 3 since previously I arranged that I take Ko , the masseur for Copa who did not show up few days ago  for long time.

 

Very energetic at massage and almost as good looking as his co-worker Kao. Not exactly quiet night which taking into consideration his energy was expected. 2000 plus 400 off fee in case they will charge him even if I took him at end of his shift another energizing encounter funded by well spent money.. And I did not waste an opportunity to secure his presence for next night tonight, I don’t even recall who suggested it first , me or him but certainly it was good idea.

 

I like Pattaya more and more.

 

So day 9 finished with breakfast together , today for fun he had my American breakfast and I his Asian one.

[Boy69]

Great report !

 

I told you Pattaya is much more fun and vibrant than BKK

[vinapu]

 

I told you Pattaya is much more fun and vibrant than BKK

that would be an exaggeration but she has her advantages like pricing and 3 reasonable priced hotels in the thick of the action. I wish we had the same in soi Twilight.

 

There's something to be said about Pattaya though - second trip in row I liked Pattaya part a bit better than BKK one but no, when comes to vibrancy Bangkok wins big time.

[vinapu]

     Day 10

 

Very pleasant , sunny weather with quite strong breeze from seaside so I decided to spent it on my feet and set off for long walk along the Beach Rd  to Dusit Thani . What was shocking was filth on the  beach , certainly such popular resort , even if of dubious reputation should do much better.

 

 

At Dusit turned inland to Dolphin andNaklua Rd and marchedall the way  to Sanctuary of Truth . Last time I visited place back in 2015.

 

 

Did not go in but returned to Dolphin circle and kept marching along Second Rd stopping here and there. Had fish massage in  a  store close to Central Festival Mall  and repaired my cracked heels by forcing myself to do pedicure for first time ever. Certainly Pattaya class is seeping into my head.

 

Visited Night Market nearby to buy another multipocketed shorts. Wandering about the market I spotted very interesting stand selling wall clocks, very fancy ones, one of the kind type. Did not ask for price and don’t expect them to  be cheap but certainly having   device like that on the wall would be talk of family and friends, Now , typing this I think it was mistake not to buy one. Another reason to visit Pattaya in the future.

 

Finally arrived to BT but stopped in the hotel just to freshen up and then set off for Pratamnak Hill, This is my 7th visit in PTT and never been there so decided it’s long overdue. Great vistas from Big Buddha and even greater from other side where admiral statue is. Pretty big crowds there due to several tour buses parked on the pass disgorging hundreds of noisy Chinese visitors.

 

Down to Walking str and walk toward hotel with dinner stop at Alt Heidelberg again.

It was darkening already when I returned to the soi to take well deserved shower and shave for my last Pattaya night.

 

As every day   parked myself at Oscar to have some beer with boys and distribute some tips as token of appreciation for fun I had there daily. Soon williewillie showed up with his farang  friend and few patrons who were daily visitors just like me. Oscars provides perfect vantage point for BBB boys coming for work and in meantime exercising in front  of the bar.

 

And who it was? Art  and super handsome Cambodian I spotted another day. I should forfeit Nantra Silom reservation and stay there for one or two days more  to have a chance to put my hands on that man. Sometimes we are just slow thinkers and it does us  no good.

 

Hope he still will be there next time but who knows. Seeing those two exercising together was true balm to the eyes but as soon as my beer was finished I waved Art with let’s go motion, paid 500 off fee, forced 100 again into Cambodian’s  pants and followed Art to my room.

 

It was actually head turning march since being right after exercising he decided to walk to the hotel bare chested , quite  a sight, quite  a sight believe you me.

 

Good thing I had small bottle of SongSom in the room he was kind to help me to empty but we did not forget about massage and exercises. Again one of best massages I had.  I asked him about lady he was sitting and drinking with yesterday. It was just talk and drink , no off and only 100 baht tip. Now I understand that sometimes patrons are snatching boys sitting with others. I should do the same yesterday.

 

Since I had Ko already arranged for tonight I lost all hope of having long time with Art and Cambodian but at least I have a motivation to return. Never during those days I forget that I’m missing one more boy, Bank . Veteran of 10 offs and 5 days trip to BKK was missing this time but was assured by few mamasans and boys that he will be back.

 

Fine but will I be back? Big hope YES.

 

Not long before midnight I made trek with him back to the bar for last chance to shed some money of my pockets. Keow the hunk,  beautiful Cambodian, one more veteran and one of mamasans who recognized me in the first evening got some parting notes

 

At midnight I left , grabbed Ko from Copa  but not before extracting another hug from Kao who showed up today after few days of absence. Another energetic night with Ko, quite fitting for that fabulous , eye candy filled week in Pattaya. Tip the same , he said boss charged him off fee last night , no way of verifying that and not even desire on my part so gave him that 400 extra.

 

We finish day 10 with breakfast , this time back to normal, mine was an American and his Asian one.

 

Good bye Boyztown !

[rollingstone]

 

I like Pattaya more and more.

 

 

 

Glad that you finally got here

 

I used to like Bangkok a lot; partly because from the old airport to Pattaya was a trip like 3 hours + (?) with not-so-good roads.

 

Since the opening of the 'new' airport (still cant spell the name) and I started to frequent more often to Pattaya. Nowadays the default holiday destination for me is Pattaya; though I still pass through Bangkok now and then and enjoy BKK scene as much as I can.

[spoon]

My sexual drive isnt as high as you vinapu lol 2-3 session a day and sleepless night, id be happy with one session a day with morning filled with some touristy things.

[Boy69]

My sexual drive isnt as high as you vinapu lol 2-3 session a day and sleepless night, id be happy with one session a day with morning filled with some touristy things.

Me too .Vinapu is quite a panther!

I am much younger than Vinapu but one session a day is enough for me (more than that and I am like dead a corpse in bed) and then all the usual stuff tourists do .

[Boy69]

'he said boss charged him off fee last night , no way of verifying that and not even desire on my part so gave him that 400 extra.'

 

You did the right thing,Bars' owners will do everything to reduce boys' salaries , all kinds of dirty games to save money.

[vinapu]

 

 

I used to like Bangkok a lot; ...... Nowadays the default holiday destination for me is Pattaya; though I still pass through Bangkok now and then and enjoy BKK scene as much as I can.

 

I'm urban person and always was ( my first 21 years I was living on the main square of city I was born in)  and I love  Bangkok, perhaps more than any other city I have been and not only because ubiquitous eye candy.

 

Spending vacations in a big city is my idea of fun  , while other are frying on the beaches I like to pound the streets but even me,  free spender on vacations ( I'm very low maintenance at home so must splurge from time to time for mental sanity ) see that Bangkok is becoming an expensive proposal compared to Pattaya.

 

Still can live with that  but recently simply I had better luck with Pattaya boys hence more vacation days allotted to Pattaya and an extension. I think splitting 50/50 may be my plan for a future. This trip another factor kicked in - all days in  Pattaya were dry and sunny while Bangkok had expected rains , on two occasion very heavy ones. But joy of Thai rains is that they never last long so it's easy to outwait them by parking oneself over the meal or beside the boy.

 

 

My sexual drive isnt as high as you vinapu lol 2-3 session a day and sleepless night, id be happy with one session a day with morning filled with some touristy things.

What sex drive you are talking about ? I just like the boys LOL ( it looks that by coincidence I like the same type like you, ones with no need to worry about their ID  )

 

As for sleepless nights , yes , even boys are impressed by my ability to withstand sleep deprivation but body has it's needs -ask Christian whose knocking to my door did not  wake me up until 1 hour later  ( day 3)

 

Me too .Vinapu is quite a panther!

I am much younger than Vinapu but one session a day is enough for me (more than that and I am like dead a corpse in bed) 

 

Vinapu is a lamb who is getting some energy by getting intimate with boys

I don't travel that far to see one boy a day, I need to get something for my buck and time spent flying

 

'he said boss charged him off fee last night , no way of verifying that and not even desire on my part so gave him that 400 extra.'

 

You did the right thing,Bars' owners will do everything to reduce boys' salaries , all kinds of dirty games to save money.

he was massage boy and I took him after his shift was over so technically he was free from work shackles but he sounded  sincere and I have no reason to doubt him as I had that before in BKK , boy grabbed from street in front of shop after work and still  I was charged massage fee for taking him home.

 

Happens rarely but it does . I can live with that even if it's just boy's enterprise. Last thing I need is boy having trouble because of me. It was whole night after all .  Meal at Alt Heidelberg costs me 300 / beer and tip included / to keep things in perspective.   

[faranglaw]

I am loving your reports, Vinapu. You treat the boys so well and I love how your genuine caring for them comes through. I only wish you were going to be there when I am to show me some of these places, although I'll always go for the little twinky boys. Anyway, I'm looking forward to Thailand, as I do every year, this time for three whole months, Dec 1-Feb 27. Yahoo--retirement!

[rollingstone]

I'm urban person and always was ( my first 21 years I was living on the main square of city I was born in)  and I love  Bangkok, perhaps more than any other city I have been and not only because ubiquitous eye candy.

 

 

I also consider myself a person loving big/busy city. Pattaya, while not big, has the right elements, e.g. booze, boys, food, entertainment comes with these and ... what else

 

Top cities I like most (have perhaps been to most times): Bangkok and Pattaya (dont know which one wins so far).

 

Other places I like (almost in the right order): Rome, San Francisco, Sydney, Copenhagen, Amsterdam, Venice, Washington DC, Hawaii, Paris, Nice, Taipei, Auckland (a bit too quiet though). Maybe a couple of others.

 

Among places I could care less: LAX, MEL,HKG (but food is good).

[vinapu]

I am loving your reports, Vinapu. You treat the boys so well and I love how your genuine caring for them comes through. I only wish you were going to be there when I am to show me some of these places, although I'll always go for the little twinky boys. Anyway, I'm looking forward to Thailand, as I do every year, this time for three whole months, Dec 1-Feb 27. Yahoo--retirement!

thank you

 

I try to treat them well since my modus operandi is long time off so I figured if I will play host for them for full work shift I better be nice , make sure they are well fed and have access to drinks in my fridge. 

 

I don't mind looking at little twinky boys but they are  my types but believe all bars deserve our material support  so I visit all bars in some kind of rotation.

 

Bar lottery winning unfortunately period you will be there is out of question for me still slaving at work  

[vinapu]

 

 

Other places I like (almost in the right order): Rome, San Francisco, Sydney, Copenhagen, Amsterdam, Venice, Washington DC, Hawaii, Paris, Nice, Taipei, Auckland (a bit too quiet though). Maybe a couple of others.

 

 

my favorites if you ask apart from Bangkok are Istanbul, Paris, London , Berlin , Toronto, Rome and New York  

[vinapu]

Day 11    

 

Time to return to BKK although no harm would be done if I cancelled my reservation at Nantra  and extended stay by day or two but I decided to stick to the plan. Packed fast and shortly after world saw me walking toward Jomtien bath bus stop as this time I decided to return by Jomtien airport bus instead of my usual Ekkamai one from North Bus Station.

 

On the vehicle one good hearted farang noticing that I’m watching route closely while holding luggage ( I’m not that  familiar with Jomtien) told me that he will alight at the same stop so I can just follow him stop  “because you don’t want to miss your flight”. When I told him I’m just going to BKK using airport bus he was surprised declaring that in many trips he never thought about such a great idea.

 

My luck continued when it turned I purchased last ticket for 11 a.m. bus departing in few minutes. 120 baht and exactly 90 minutes later I alighted at Swampy to a thrill of feeling like I arrived in Thailand again – an additional bonus of using airport bus.

Usually we don’t spent much time in the airport but this time  in no rush to catch flight or go to the hotel after long flight I wandered  a bit surveying shops in the   lowest level and having lunch of coconut soup  with rice there. Train to Phaya Thai and BTS to Silom , road well travelled for 45+28 baht and after a week I’m back.

 

What is also back is rain , while Pattaya was dry area ,  Bangkok did not forget that it’s rainy season. There were no hangers in the room so went down to reception to ask for some but always self-sufficient I went to market in soi 3 across and bought 10 of those for 40 baht , my gift to the Nantra.

 

Then had that enlightening moment and decided to go to Senso, along with Arena and Bangkok Massage soi Twilight place I visit every trip. While some are complaining(rightly) about their high prices I never been disappointed there and was hoping my favorite Jack will be there.

 

What is funny and I never know why, after so many visits to all kinds of bars and massage places in Thailand  both Arena and Senso are still places when I get some thrill and goose bumps when approaching and I like that feeling. It ‘s like being first time ever and no other places are generating that thrill.   My only explanation would be that I never was disappointed in either and now while opening door I noticed somebody I did not expect to see at all .M, star of few of movies from GThai series was back.

 

Last time I was in Senso they told me he left for good and this was corresponding with what he told me when I met him before, that he is going to quit. But he was there in flesh right in front of me beaming smile of surprise at him. So it went without saying I’m taking 1.5 hr. session (1490, minimum tip 1800) as 1 hr.  for 1000, min. tip 1200 would definitely not be enough for reunion.

As usual in Senso he left me to shower alone and  soon after I succumbed to his long and strong strokes, as recorder here in one of my previous reports I considered his massage among 5 best ever.

 

This time he even let me to touch him before massage was over, an option I abused liberally and to top an experience we had good conversation in meantime about his reason to return ( more or less he was bored and missed hustle and bustle of work, too young to live a life of old man as he put it.). Mirror on the wall definitely added to the experience and I noticed he likes to see himself in it as well, a bit of vanity I guess considering his fit and smooth body.

 

One of best moments of this trip, worth such extortionate fee and 2000 tip I left.

 

Then I decided to park myself in one of bars at end of soi  4 to have a dinner there as well as to survey Jupiter boys coming for work. A lot of fun watching waiters trying to entice tourists to patronize  their bars and to watch visitors trying to pretend they are in that gay soi by mistake. I was hoping I will catch Oud from Jupiter  but did not see him and instead of going inside I decided to go to Jupiter ‘s old location to check on Boy66 bar there

 

. Show was about to start and about  10  boys were presenting themselves on the scene Jupiter style  i.e. lacking smile and eye contact. Some of them new and some familiar faces from Jupiter 2002. Not more than 10 people in the audience , me being sole farang rest being Asians and much younger then me at that.

 

Almost  right after my drink arrived I was electrified. Tam , former number #60 from Jupiter   appeared  on the scene   wearing the same number.

 

Of all boys I ever saw in Thailand in both bars and massage places he is probably best built and has nicest smile and it was time I had such hots for him that  I was ready to fork out 200 $  for chance of having short time with him. Never did though as he was always booked already and did not pay any attention  / smile ! / to my presence.

 

On top of that he had a bit of bad publicity , one of our member whose judgement I trust completely advised me against ever engaging him after  very , very disappointing off he had with him, an impression reinforced by few equally decisive warnings here and on another forums.

 

But this was then and it was not me, now I knew is my moment or never. Since  mamasan was standing right there I asked him to call boy over and  he came immediately. Hand shake,  drink and immediate confirmation that he will go with me but after show , he will not do long times, is top only and not gay  and prefers to make me happy and go  as he put it. Quoted 2500 fee,  very high even for BKK but with that body I was prepared for perhaps even more had he requested it.  

 

The same amount was quoted by mamasan when I paid off fee after Tam left me to take part in the show so perhaps this is what he commands.

 

Show very similar to one in old Jupiter and during performance my newly acquired friend did not even look in my side  once but this did not bother me at all , whole excited  about second dream come true in one day. I did not expect much so it was easy wait.

After the show he duly appeared at my side , promised to show up in 5 minutes dressed and ready to go so all good so far.

 

He did not mind to walk to Nantra which I took as good sign   and as we walked it start raining so we ( I) bought an umbrella in 7/11. Some small talk as we walked , English good enough to converse but when asked why he did not move with Jupiter to new place he just shrug off. I know that he was working for  a while at Dreamboys.

 

In the room  no problems showering together so soaping such great body was quite a thrill and for a straight boy he was quite happy to   succumb to my mutilations and worships. True professional although at end he mention he doesn’t enjoy it since he is not gay but If I liked it he is happy for me.

 

All in all I liked it, extremely happy I had a chance to put my hands on such a hunk. He had his limitations but since they were communicated up front I knew what I’m into . Did not notice any attitude either other than quiet resignation that those strange gay people seem to be enamored in him and since they are willing    to pay he has no choice other than yielding to their pleasures. I’m glad I finally had a chance to off him and if somebody asks if I’d do then same again answer is firm ‘yes’ as such a body can’t be wasted on girls only.

 

After he left I made my rounds around Silom , Suriwong and Patpong hoping that perhaps unengaged Tawan boys will be still drinking in front of 7/11 but did not see  anybody so returned home and went to bed alone sleeping soundly after those two meetings with semi-gods of my dreams. And day 11 was over.

[spoon]

You finally get your hands on tam? Nice! I can understand the excitement completely and with your expectation lowered down, things can only go better if he does more than expected lol. To me, i will respect the boy's limitations but that might not stop me from trying to persudae him lol. Probably the most annoying thing a boy could do to me would be rushing things and want everything to end quickyly.