Somewhat dry rainy season - Thailand trip of Sept 2017

[vinapu]

Day 5

 

That was morning when I finally figured out  what is wrong with my tablet ( having  it plugged when reinstating power in the room ). We are supposed to be in the middle of rainy season but weather so far is hot , humid and sunny. I took motorsai taxi to Bali Hai pier to see that new Pattaya’s toy – ferry to Hua Hin.

 

There’s only one sailing a day and ferry already departed but two other identical  vessels were still moored at the pier, costly back up I thought. I got that bright idea that if I decide to extend my stay in Pattaya I will make day trip to Hua Hin and back just to see how it is.

 

 Then meandering through walking Street and adjacent alleys I came to 2^nd Rd to catch  baht bus to Jomtien as another option I’m entertaining in case of extension is to move to 2 nights there.

 

I went for  a walk along the beach , now partially demolished due to all that construction and walking along concessions for a first time this trip I realized that it is low season as chairs were empty everywhere. Perhaps timing was partial culprit, it was between 1-2 so lunch time  but quite  empty it was. Going back toward Jomtien complex I was tempted to stop in Bamboo bar since it seemed to be     well staffed and patronized for time of day but decided to keep walking. Jomtien complex was deserted at that time with one exception when I was passing by – Fah massage was sporting more than half dozen guys lingering at front and all of them quite attractive so after surveying realm of complex it was no way I could resist temptation. Problem of which boy to choose I solved easily simply by grabbing nearest one.

 

Lao boy named Chai, left me to take a shower , returned shortly after and started massage with fast and long stokes I like . Heat in the room most likely was reason he shed his clothing almost immediately and things went their natural course. It was great time , 300 for the house, 1000 for the visibly happy boy.

 

On departure checked boys again and truly  if I stay there I’d run through the whole stable since all of them looked attractive. Unheralded and rarely mentioned place but quite a gem in my not so humble opinion.

Returning to Pattaya I had another moment of enlightenment with an idea of returning to Bangkok by the airport bus instead of one departing for  Ekkamai from North bus Station.

 

Rest of afternoon spent wandering around the Tuk Com and Sunee Plaza, still deserted that early but I noticed  some congregation of farangs having a dinner in Ting Tong Red and recalled it must be Gaybutton’s  crowd meeting for their Thursday meal.

 

Back in Boyztown I took a seat at Oscars , got my Chang and started light flirting with their boys  one of them quite talkative and funny, feminine type not shy to admit “ I’m a lady at heart”  and another one tall and handsome, manly  but a bit more reserved. I was supposed to have another massage with Kao at Copa and true to Boyztown form as soon as he arrived somebody from there spied me sitting at Oscars , came and told me that he is  there already so off I went.

 

Since yesterday I told him that next time I will be massaging him  he resigned to  his fate and succumbed to my mutilations and I was in 6^th heaven having a chance to do that to his near perfect , highly caressable body.   It would be nirvana to have him long time I thought.

 

Added 100 to yesterday’s tip to extract a smile and returned to Oscars boys for more fun talk with hope one tall and handsome will be willing to do time with me till morning.  It was actually him who suggested “ I go with you”, very inexpensive proposal at 1500 / LT so not before long we were marching to Walking street to see the traffic, have  a beer  and return home for  a quite passionate and long meeting.  World saw us going down for a breakfast as late as noon if not later .

 

Always good hearted I volunteered to up his tip to 2000 and judging by his smile it was good move. Thus day  5 was over very late.

[eurasian]

Wowww Vinapu ... 3 guys and I presume at least 4 sessions in one day

[1moRussian]

perhaps you are right although I took my boy after second show and I doubt they have another one and still was required to pay 800. Perhaps I should bargain it down.

 

That friend of us stated "800 before 23:00" in April-2016. Perhaps, the same rule applies, but one needs to insist? Although he was not a show boy, but a coyote dancer...

[Guest lurkerspeaks]

What is a coyote dancer?

[1moRussian]

What is a coyote dancer?

That was my question too: wtf is a coyote dancer in BBB?! And why are you talking me about 800 now, when it was 500 just 4,5 months ago?!

 

There were some boys, who danced at small stages around the club with the bulk of guys just stayed "still" at the big stage. The first were named coyotes (with inflated off price until 23:00, still negotiable).

[vinapu]

Wowww Vinapu ...I presume at least 4 sessions in one day

what do you think I'm Rambo or Connan the Barabarian?

[vinapu]

That friend of us stated "800 before 23:00" in April-2016. Perhaps, the same rule applies, but one needs to insist? Although he was not a show boy, but a coyote dancer...

this  is what I though afterwards, i paid that 800 like a sheep without  protest ar trying to bargain , on another hand deal was sealed in presence of two mamasans so I don't think they tried to scam me.

 

Anyways , who cares, that 800 I classified as one of better spent money that trip and this is what counts  / at least for me /.

Coyote dancers  are classified as show boy for that purpose anyways.

[vinapu]

What is a coyote dancer?

is short , boys who are actually dancing , usually on a separate podiums apart from main stage.

[Guest lurkerspeaks]

And are the coyote dancers off-able ?

[vinapu]

And are the coyote dancers off-able ?

yes,  but usually off fee is higher and depending on the bar they may be available only after certain hour when crowds in the bar  are thinner 

[vinapu]

Day 6

 

If one bothers to read these reports from rainy season trip may notice that it is actually very little mention of rain. There’s  good reason  for that, other than first day storm and occasional short drizzle so far there’s no rain. Skies are sunny and only reminder about wet season so far is humid in the air. 

 

After boy left I went to soi Post Office to internet café to deal with some e-mails and other internet traffic . I made my tablet working but still don’t like typing on it. Beside me was sitting chatty American, avowed  Trump supporter who talked  quite a bit  and while listening I thought POTUS better delivers because lots of his people have a lot of hopes invested in him.

 

When subject came to European style   health care he labelled it as usually Americans do  socialist heath care and I resorted that this is not socialist care , it’s members of society taking care about each other.  “ I never thought like that” he said , “you gave a lot to think about this afternoon”. So by coincidence I turned out to be a bit of communist agitator corrupting healthy capitalist minds. LOL

 

 

In the evening small forum meeting at Oscars. From posts here I suspected that there are few members in Pattaya at that time  so sent few PM’s asking if they are willing to shake hands with disclaimer that no offence will be taken if they are not interested for whatever reason. Some prefer to be anonymous , others may not like me or my posts  , others still may have better idea of vacation fun that meeting with farangs. 

 

Williewillie and aussie_ were interested so we arranged for highest level meeting this evening.

 

It gave me a chance to reveal to williewiliie that we were already sitting beside each other 2 days ago and we had a good laugh. Nice conversation over beers and coffee and then aussie_ and me took off to Alt Heidelberg for  a dinner and from there to Sunee to survey some bars.

 

 While I’m not into twinks at all, I like bar hopping and am not averse to see what other side like aussie_ likes . At least it’s sure thing we will not be fighting about the same boy.

 I’m not aiming at anybody but at times I’m surprised when people are talking how unsightly Tawan boys are while at the same time admitting they never put foot inside. At least I know what others like and are fond of.

 

Nice Boys were pretty busy with few boys on stage presenting their wares already and willing to show more for  a consideration so few tips were distributed. After while we changed scenery to Winners , bar I never was in previously. Less busy than Nice boys with few in the audience and cheapest drinks in industry at 75 baht so for 1000 baht one may have quite a party there.

Again,  like in Nice Boys quite a few boys nice to look at but none I’d even remotely consider taking home unless very pressed for company but I realize that many would say the same about boys I’m salivating about. As said many times before none is better or wiser and such diversity helps to keep all kinds of boys occupied.

 

Then we decided to see show at XBoys so marched back to BT. Nothing new with show but I think they toned down volume of music thanks heaven . Boy I offed 2 nights ago smiled immediately perhaps hoping for repeat but I had other designs for tonight although not sure it will work. After we left I walked aussie_ to a Jomtien baht bus stop, thank you again for a lovely company and an interesting evening  , quite diversified in entertainment .

 

Boys at BBB don’t have numbers now , they wear name tags and  had my eyes from day 1 on Keow, hunky hunk who will be at home at Tawan  . He did not express much of interest in me, read ‘ not at all ’,   no shock here , until   I tucked reddie in his briefs during big cock solicitations. And tonight I came in the right , exactly the same moment. He did not forget who generous farang me was , so hasted to come to collect his note with wide smile and I was not about to waste such an opportunity so motioned him to sit down for a usual interview : ‘you go with me’, ‘yes’, ‘long time?’, ‘yes’, “how much you want?”, ‘3500’, ‘3000?’,  ‘no 3500’, WTF , this is not a BKK so I tried again ‘I give you 3000”, ‘OK” and my silent ‘ yessssssssssssss” .

 

 

What a catch ! In meantime waiter was trying to entice me to buy boy drink at 450 but I said no, I’m taking him. Since he is show boy they charged me 800 off fee, no way I’d be forking 450 for  a drink particularly that late, earlier it would make sense if only to make sure he will not go astray with some other admirer. Happy, happy me marching with him across the soi to my room, knowing smile of girl on reception was priceless and made me proud  of my catch even more.

 

His English is very limited which worked very well since no time was wasted for  a conversation and nirvana could be started right away. Very energetic night although we got some sleep and when we opened eyes at 7 a.m.  I could not miss that proposal – you stay till 10 and I give you 4000 / readers please stop screaming , see the man first ! /.  Money has  spoken and I was contemplating next extension but at 10 he mentioned being hungry and I realized I’m as well .

 

 At tip distribution was that cold moment I mentioned in another thread, I dug out 1000 baht from pocket , gave to him and his face freeze for a second with an expression not even anger but big disappointment or who knows what but I did not torment him longer than 1.5 seconds and told him he will get what was promised in a moment as I have more money in the box.

 

So another late breakfast , this time with a view of broad shoulders    and day 6 was over with very clear pattern visible – I enjoyed those overpaid offs exponentially more than ones I managed to economize on.  Thanks God for Thailand where dreams are coming true at reasonable cost. I don’t want even think of how much 10 hr. long , no rush  overnight witch such a hunk would cost me at home but certainly several times more than equivalent of 4000 baht plus 800 off fee.

[spoon]

I know a friend who paid 2k euro for a night with a famous pornstar so what u pay pale in comparison to that lol. Normal charges were around 50-100 euros there but that pornstar dont usually take customer so needs more motivation to take one. And guess what, my friend never regretted that night lol.

[bobsaigon]

"Very energetic night although we got some sleep and when we opened eyes at 7 a.m.  I could not miss that proposal – you stay till 10 and I give you 4000 / readers please stop screaming , see the man first !"

 

Well said, vinapu.

[vinapu]

Is only one boy on the market to  whom  at one point in the past I was prepared to pay up to 200 USD but never got around  to off him then.

 

Wait was fruitful, got him for 2500 ST , watch this space , will be reported soon.

 

I know that some may think I overpaid here and there, truth is all those 3 LT last trip I paid 4000 each were  by far the best offs both by quality of time and quality of companion.  Economizing did good only to a degree. Saved money but with exception of last 2 nights in PTT produced nothing memorable , just pleasure at the moment and 1 upsetting case- see next report.

 

Both Tawan boys and Keow not only looked great  but did their best to ensure I like time spent with them. Can't recall smallest fault on their part so money is not even an issue.Hope I will have a chance to see them in the future too.

 

If I sense  they are trying to pull my leg I have no problem of cutting them off. I'm not looking for a love in Thailand  but gladly rent it for 500 baht /hr or less.

[Boy69]

OMG you do over pay anywhere you go ,I am screaming just now .lol. your major mistake is that you're thinking in your home country level costs but you are in Thailand! The average salary here is 10k to 15k baht so you pay the boy a huge amount of money especially for a Pattaya average off,I don't care what you are willing to do with your money but the problem for all other falangs is when big spenders like you coming to Pattaya bars the boys become more gready and the rates go up and up.If you stick to 2000-2500 Bhat for example and be firm with 'take it or leave it'

approach the boy would certainly agree and if not there are plenty other boys that will take the offer gladly.

 

Anyway I am glad you are doing a lot of fun in Pattaya.

[williewillie]

I was fortunate to catch up with vinapu on three nights. We both like Oscars and have mutual appreciation of

the boys in the massage places on the main Boyztown soi and of course, Boyzboyzboyz.

The lineup parade has been nightly for about a week now, just a few minutes later than before. The boys gather on

the terrace a little while before and can be easily approach for a chat and you can get to know them without

buying drinks or loud music. Tips always appreciated..

The terrace drink prices are very reasonable and I find ideal for interviewing.

I suggest vinapu not start with the apps as he might go into overload. He’s quite a flirt and the boys obviously like him.

[forky123]

OMG you do over pay anywhere you go ,I am screaming just now .lol. your major mistake is that you're thinking in your home country level costs but you are in Thailand! The average salary here is 10k to 15k baht so you pay the boy a huge amount of money especially for a Pattaya average off,I don't care what you are willing to do with your money but the problem for all other falangs is when big spenders like you coming to Pattaya bars the boys become more gready and the rates go up and up.If you stick to 2000-2500 Bhat for example and be firm with 'take it or leave it' approach the boy would certainly agree and if not there are plenty other boys that will take the offer gladly.

Of all the reasons not to pay the tip someone wants to, these are about the worst. Apart from Vinapu being allowed to do what he likes with his money, giving an occasional boy a large tip simply reinforces good service. The complaint that all prices will go up is simply not true. If a boy gives really good service and gets a really good tip it reinforces the fact that if he does good things he gets paid a lot. The reverse is also true. If you give the same crap tip no matter how good the boy is, you teach the boys that they may as well do a crap job because the money is the same no matter what.

[spoon]

OMG you do over pay anywhere you go ,I am screaming just now .lol. your major mistake is that you're thinking in your home country level costs but you are in Thailand! The average salary here is 10k to 15k baht so you pay the boy a huge amount of money especially for a Pattaya average off,I don't care what you are willing to do with your money but the problem for all other falangs is when big spenders like you coming to Pattaya bars the boys become more gready and the rates go up and up.If you stick to 2000-2500 Bhat for example and be firm with 'take it or leave it'

approach the boy would certainly agree and if not there are plenty other boys that will take the offer gladly.

 

Anyway I am glad you are doing a lot of fun in Pattaya.

Dont worry boy69, vinapu hasnt ruin the market price for any of the boy u like, plus muscular boy has been demanding higher prices anyway, and they are becoming rare now if you are being picky like me (not too big, must be ripped, not too flabby, but want bubble butt, not too dark but want them to be manly, handsome model like) Also, they know that they can get much more from some customers (some even get motorcycles, iphones, expensive watches) that are worth way more than what vinapu gives in cash, but they also realize that such customer is also rare.

[Boy69]

Of all the reasons not to pay the tip someone wants to, these are about the worst. Apart from Vinapu being allowed to do what he likes with his money, giving an occasional boy a large tip simply reinforces good service. The complaint that all prices will go up is simply not true. If a boy gives really good service and gets a really good tip it reinforces the fact that if he does good things he gets paid a lot. The reverse is also true. If you give the same crap tip no matter how good the boy is, you teach the boys that they may as well do a crap job because the money is the same no matter what.

I am not complaining about tips and everyone can do whatever whey want with their money but consistently paying very high rates seems very odd to me ,however Vinapu can do whatever he wants. if he was a little bit more careful with his money he could save a lot and receive very well service from the boys.

[Boy69]

Dont worry boy69, vinapu hasnt ruin the market price for any of the boy u like, plus muscular boy has been demanding higher prices anyway, and they are becoming rare now if you are being picky like me (not too big, must be ripped, not too flabby, but want bubble butt, not too dark but want them to be manly, handsome model like) Also, they know that they can get much more from some customers (some even get motorcycles, iphones, expensive watches) that are worth way more than what vinapu gives in cash, but they also realize that such customer is also rare.

Maybe you right muscular boys are not my type so maybe they're more expensive I personally prefer 18-22 yo slim twinks with boyish look and they're very happy with 1000 to 1500 for ST ,and 1500 to 2500 for LT .

I am in no way cheap charlie one boy who stay with me very long term received from me 10k Baht worth gold necklace as a present and other boy received from 3k BHT tip extra for one week but I am certainly against the idea to pay extravagant rates for every boy I meet.

[forky123]

For myself, I prefer guys in their mid to late twenties which usually means they are in their early 30's (due to Thai's looking so much younger than they really are). Sometimes early 20's but rarely. I never suggest a price beforehand and only agree one with the guy if they bring it up. I pay the guy what the performance is worth to me, with 1500 being the minimum for ST and 2000 the minimum for long time. I can count on one hand the number of times I've paid the minimum.

 

I understand it's Thailand, I understand that I can barter, I understand that the boy would probably take far less if I offered less. I choose to not treat it like I'm picking a T-shirt in the market playing one stall holder against another. The boy doesn't know how much he will get till after the fact. I don't care if he thinks me an easy mark and I don't care if he would have taken half as much. It makes me feel good if I make him smile after whatever the reason. A 10 hour LT in LoS still costs 1/3 what an hour would cost at home.

[a447a]

I know a friend who paid 2k euro for a night with a famous pornstar so what u pay pale in comparison to that lol. Normal charges were around 50-100 euros there but that pornstar dont usually take customer so needs more motivation to take one. And guess what, my friend never regretted that night lol.

I tried to off a pornstar - he appears in Czechhunter videos - when I was in Prague. I first saw him at Escape Bar and knew I just had to have him, no matter what the cost. I imagine the sex would be awesome. He'd know all the tricks. Then again, he could be a dud in bed.

 

The experience would also give me a dinner party conversation topic for the rest of my life! Plus, I could put on one of his videos and show my friends the guy I had sex with.

 

My god, he was so hot. And hung like a donkey.

 

Unfortunately, I didn't get the chance, as he was offed by a couple of regular customers every night . They took precedence over a mere horny tourist.

 

When I consider what I pay in Australia for sex, Thailand is cheap, no matter how much the boy asks for.

[Boy69]

For myself, I prefer guys in their mid to late twenties which usually means they are in their early 30's (due to Thai's looking so much younger than they really are). Sometimes early 20's but rarely. I never suggest a price beforehand and only agree one with the guy if they bring it up. I pay the guy what the performance is worth to me, with 1500 being the minimum for ST and 2000 the minimum for long time. I can count on one hand the number of times I've paid the minimum.

 

I understand it's Thailand, I understand that I can barter, I understand that the boy would probably take far less if I offered less. I choose to not treat it like I'm picking a T-shirt in the market playing one stall holder against another. The boy doesn't know how much he will get till after the fact. I don't care if he thinks me an easy mark and I don't care if he would have taken half as much. It makes me feel good if I make him smile after whatever the reason. A 10 hour LT in LoS still costs 1/3 what an hour would cost at home.

Excatly my approch I also never suggest a price beforehand and only agree one with the guy if they bring it up because if I do that the boys usually throw away outrageous rates and I don't like to bargain with them.but I do pay fair rates at the end ,never faced problem with that as advised before 1000-1500 ST and 1500-2500 LT.I never off boys from BKK bars because I know this rates are not acceptable by the boys there not a problem for me anyway because I rarely stay in BKK more than 1-2 days every trip not a big fan of this city.

[spoon]

Thanks vinapu for that idea. I just put it in practice with a MB here, all i can say, we both enjoy the session lol. Me giving my really bad massage instead of the boy massaging me haha. And since his body is oily after the session, he is more open to shower together as well. I have to admit that i couldnt massage his body long enough before letting my hand ran wild to other part instead lol.

[1moRussian]

2 Boy69: it's worth to mention, that Vinapu started this report with words "my 16th trip to Thailand" - so being there 16 times he really knows his ways there

 

2 Spoon: we could have problems, visiting a bar or massage shop together "not too big, must be ripped, not too flabby, but want bubble butt, not too dark but want them to be manly, handsome model like".

Although, being an orang putih (a white skin Russian), I am quite OK with "too dark", if all others qualities are in place. So I can take those, who darker