Popular Post paulsf Posted September 27, 2017 Popular Post Posted September 27, 2017 Samebb is a good friend of mine. We talk just about everyday. He will be the first to admit that his colorful language gets him into trouble. I'll be the second to admit his language gets him into trouble. We have talked about it many times. He does live in Bangkok and spends lots of time in Pattaya. He knows many people in the bars and clubs. But several forum members question all this and then he goes off. He is also much younger than most think and relates to the boys differently than most of us. He knew he was headed for banishment and is ok with it. Yes, some of his info will be missed, but he broke the rules so that takes care of that. I'll continue to spend time hanging and talking with him, and I will continue to push him to take an etiquette class. He knows when he crosses the line with me and apologizes . But couldn't get him to apologize for going off in the forum. williewillie, ChristianPFC, vinapu and 7 others 10
forky123 Posted September 27, 2017 Author Posted September 27, 2017 I find that "derail threads" is a lame excuse, since there are so many threads that can be started, and the ones I know that were "derailed" returned to their course without problems. I find it ugly when members snitch on other members and start threads to blow up an incident of verbal fighting. The job of the moderator is to be current with all the posting here, and Scooby seems quite capable to identify the incident and take action without people complaining. We should be a COMMUNITY, not a gang of righteous people who converse as they please and then take it out against individuals who they don't like because they are of stronger character. Note that in this case it is also a gang against an individual, who tried to get samebb banned like he is an outsider. I read exactly the same posts you did, and I would not like to complain to the moderator. In a community, the good and the bad need to have a chance to live, and here we are fortunate to have a moderator who keeps the peace so that we don't have to do it ourselves.When threads get derailed and locked because people can't disagree without name calling and denigrating the opinion of others it punishes everyone. Suspensions only work if people accidentally overstep the mark and don't go out of their way to be offensive. Where someone is suspended, comes back and doesn't regulate their behaviour then the moderator has to decide if further suspensions are appropriate or a ban. This thread was not created to "snitch" on anyone, all I asked was that people stop the personal attacks so threads weren't locked and I asked Scooby to consider suspensions or bans for serial offenders rather than punishing everyone by locking the threads. People who rely on such attacks, innuendo and downright nastiness to enforce their points are by no means stronger characters, quite the reverse. bobsaigon and bucknaway 2
Boy69 Posted September 27, 2017 Posted September 27, 2017 Samebb is a colourful character indeed but he absolutely isn't a troll his language sometimes crossed the line but his contribution to the forum was great with lots of priceless information and useful advices I certainly don't agree with his impolite language sometimes but I think he deserves a second chance, a suspension is more appropriate in his case than a complete ban. ChristianPFC 1
vinapu Posted September 28, 2017 Posted September 28, 2017 ....A person who consistently posts here for years also makes an INVESTMENT of his time and interests. .......... that's novelty to me , I post here for few years and do it often but never thought about time spent on forum as an investment of any kind , rather I do it because I have fun doing so and don't expect anything else in return. But I expect that if somebody doesn't agree with me or doesn't like what I say says so without resorting to insults or name calling. Somehow I was spared samebb wrath but did not like when he was trying to level others off just because they did not see things way he did. I doubt samebb thought about his posts as investments as well but if he did, it looks it was poor investment. bucknaway and Vessey 2
steveboy Posted September 28, 2017 Posted September 28, 2017 Vinapu, we all value our time differently, and if you don't value yours, this is fine. I don't know if samebb's wrath needs to be spared. I was spared the wrath of hurricane Harvey, and my sister was saved the wrath of hurricane Irma. We are immensely thankful to nature for that. As for samebb's wrath... who cares? If he is suspended instead of banned, no one loses. If his wrath comes back, then suspend him back. I am the father of a man who was terrible as a child. Suspended countless times. But never banned. Today, he is the best son one can wish for. witty 1
vinapu Posted September 28, 2017 Posted September 28, 2017 I was spared the wrath of hurricane Harvey.... even up there sometimes they underperfom on the job
steveboy Posted September 28, 2017 Posted September 28, 2017 even up there sometimes they underperfom on the job LOL! And they are supposed to be Divine and infinitely-everything up there.
forky123 Posted September 28, 2017 Author Posted September 28, 2017 I am the father of a man who was terrible as a child. Suspended countless times. But never banned. Today, he is the best son one can wish for.The difference being that as a father you had a responsibility to keep trying with your child. We have no such responsibility for anyone on this forum. People are responsible for their own actions and must deal with the consequences. bobsaigon and vinapu 2
Popular Post Guest Posted September 28, 2017 Popular Post Posted September 28, 2017 Just to be clear suspension was used in the first case with samebb and others and he was informed that any future incidents would result in a ban. The suspension took place after first being warned a number of times. This was not a case of one personal insult to other members but multiple insults. In the end he practically dared me to ban him. I agree it is a lose of some valued information that he provided. But he is an adult who was warned more then once and continued to act like a spoiled child. In the end he gave me no choice and in the future such members will be handled in the same way! Warnings first, if no effect a suspension and once suspended next action will be to be completely banned. Certainly I hope no such actions will be needed in the future. Vessey, eurasian, santosh108 and 11 others 14
Popular Post williewillie Posted September 28, 2017 Popular Post Posted September 28, 2017 There are always pluses and minuses when a poster is banned. The system here seems quite fair with warnings and suspensions before banning. Look at the moderator less forum at sawatdee network. No moderator and it’s infested with trolls, shit flinging assholes and turned into a bitchboard. Some don’t like very strong moderated boards like gaybuttonthai and frankly an over moderated board can get boring. This forum is moderately moderated and seems to work quite well with some controversial posting but without excessive personal attacks. BTW, brilliant post by paulsf explaining his friends behavior. Paul’s sounds like someone worth knowing. bobsaigon, traveller123, Jasper and 2 others 5
aussie_ Posted September 28, 2017 Posted September 28, 2017 However, the big question is do you want a free for all, completely deregulated, but where threads are derailed & rudeness is almost standard ? Or a level of moderation ? Please keep this forum as it is. Sawatdee forum has devolved into another version of the defunct Bitchboard. If posters want to insult others freely they can find a home there. I too enjoyed the informative posts from samebb but a warning was given.
witty Posted September 28, 2017 Posted September 28, 2017 Samebb needs a good spanking, no doubt about that. However, suspensions could be enforced over varying duration. Hopefully he becomes contrite and repentant. ChristianPFC and Boy69 2
steveboy Posted September 28, 2017 Posted September 28, 2017 Samebb needs a good spanking, no doubt about that. However, suspensions could be enforced over varying duration. Hopefully he becomes contrite and repentant. Haha, I agree about the spanking.... but it takes patience to make someone contrite and repentant. He could have got that here to his benefit, but he may have to start anew somewhere else.
Boy69 Posted September 28, 2017 Posted September 28, 2017 I hope the senior members of the forum will reconsider their decision and change the ban to a suspension. I really think Samebb is not bad boy only a naughty one that deserve a good spanking.lol. ChristianPFC 1
steveboy Posted September 28, 2017 Posted September 28, 2017 Please keep this forum as it is. Sawatdee forum has devolved into another version of the defunct Bitchboard. If posters want to insult others freely they can find a home there. I find that the Singapore forum blowingwind.io is a well organized and successful one. It has about a million posts and it gets hundreds of new ones each day. It as a section with 50,000 posts called The Flaming Room - Bad Attitude and Flame Wars will be moved here. When a thread gets contaminated with insults, these and following posts are moved there, and gays can continue fighting to their hearts content and call each other all sorts of names. This blowinwind.io forum is used mainly by young and local gays. Young people and those young at heart we don't mind some bitching, as long as we have the option to follow it or not.
vinapu Posted September 28, 2017 Posted September 28, 2017 Young people and those young at heart we don't mind some bitching, as long as we have the option to follow it or not. I don't mind people farting freely but not necessarily in the room I'm present forky123 1
steveboy Posted September 28, 2017 Posted September 28, 2017 I don't mind people farting freely but not necessarily in the room I'm present To exit a thread where you don't like how people behave is much easier than leaving a room with people farting, unless you have severe finger arthritis.
vinapu Posted September 28, 2017 Posted September 28, 2017 To exit a thread where you don't like how people behave is much easier than leaving a room with people farting, unless you have severe finger arthritis. problem is I'm not visiting forum in order to leave the threads because I don't like how people behave . I rather see them behaving so I don't need to leave the thread but rather stay and read what they have to say instead of slamming door on exit. Moses and bucknaway 2
steveboy Posted September 29, 2017 Posted September 29, 2017 problem is I'm not visiting forum in order to leave the threads because I don't like how people behave . I rather see them behaving so I don't need to leave the thread but rather stay and read what they have to say instead of slamming door on exit. One starts to believe that you want the world to bend backwards to accommodate to your desires. Good luck!
vinapu Posted September 29, 2017 Posted September 29, 2017 One starts to believe........... Is that one you ?
Guest Posted September 29, 2017 Posted September 29, 2017 Everybody has had their say and there is no reason for this thread to continue. The policy has been made clear. Warning first and then if no improvement a suspension. Once someone returns from suspension they are at risk of being banned the next time. There will be no multiple suspensions! DivineMadman and Alexx 2
