Travelling with gogo boy

[spoon]

I am sure this topic has been discussed numerous times but it was hidden in trip reports and various other topics. Thought of doing one topic for reference of newbie like me to see various experiences from sifu here regarding this topic.

 

I have had some idea to take a boy from gogo and bring them to travel with me to places that dont really have gay life, and having the boy all to myself sounds awesome. And base on my last trip, i think i found one candidate lol I havent brought this up at all though, dont want to give hope/promises that i might not be able to keep. But that doesnt stop my mind from planning a trip for the two of us lol. The boy also had hinted that he is open to it by telling about one of his previous customer who bring him back to my country. Nevertheless, i still think its too soon, maybe i need to be in bangkok again before thinking of that. Or maybe i need to go to bangkok first and discuss with the boy face to face. Either way, i would like to hear some experiences from people here, from the planning, all the practicality like discussing money, tickets, etc and how it goes. Hope to hear a bunch of great stories!

[Guest DThump]

Just bring plenty of money...Also expect to pay his off for the entire length of your trip. Once he is away with you don't expect sex on demand.

[Boy69]

It's really depends on the boy if the chemistry between you two is good it can be wonderful experience but if not you will curse the moment you decided to take the boy to travel with you.

My advise is to be with the boy at least 2 days and if there is good chemistry to agree in advance the rate and what exactly you're expecting from him . if you want to avoide the off fee costs for the bar you can try to find a boy via the apps, you can find boys there who are looking for more serious long term relationship .

[ggobkk]

There's little to lose in discussing travel with a boy you are interested in...I traveled twice in the last two years with a boy from one of the Bangkok gogos. Each trip was a good time and we were compatible. I had to adjust one trip's start as he had to do a visa run. The trips were a two and a three day visit to Pattaya. He likes to be in the water and I like to watch.

 

I would discuss face to face...but, you could also have the proposed travel happen right after the discussion. Lots of variables. Last time for me we had discussed it for my next visit. He agreed and met me at the airport when I flew into BKK and we went directly to Pattaya.

[a447a]

As boy69 said, it's all about the chemistry between you. That's not something you can establish quickly; I think you would need to know the boy and so you would have to spend a few days together and see if it works.

 

There would be nothing worse that going away together on holiday, only to find that one, or both, of you is not able to tolerate the other's habits. I've heard a number of disaster stories over the years.

 

As for the sex part, you would need to discuss that carefully so there can be no misunderstandings as to what you expect from him. You and your friend's expectations would have to be the same.

 

You have to work out the money situation. Apart from paying the bar off fee for every day he's away, you have to find out if the boy also expects payment. I'm assuming he would, although at a discount, as you are taking him long term. You are paying for his time, not just the sex, so don't fall into the trap of thinking he's getting an all expenses paid holiday so therefore, he doesn't need to be paid.

 

The power relationship should also be considered. You have it all, as you have the money. I would let him take ownership by allowing him to choose where to eat, for example. Or get him to help plan your daily activities. I sometimes slip the money to the boy in a restaurant and let him "pay" the bill.

 

Personally, I would take lots of money and spend it on him. And if all went well I would give him a bonus at the end. But that's just me.

[Boy69]

At my last trip in July-August I met a boy and after one night we decided to be togetger the whole of my vacation he was stunning beautiful young boy but I didn't know him very well and bought him the next day a flight ticket to Phuket for the next following week after we finish with Pattaya it was a huge mistake the boy was really terrible and we had a huge fight after a week so I flew alone to Phuket , the ticket for him was prepaid so I lost the money for it.I don't regret it because I found another lovely boy at Phuket. This just show you that you have to be very careful when choosing a boy to travel with you, and even if you find a boy with a good chemistry between you two it's not simple to be with the same person 24 hours a day.It's not all heaven you know...

[reader]

Checklist

 

1.  Can you communicate with your prospective travel mate in a common language. If "no" go no further.

 

2.  Are both of you crystal clear in your expectations and total remuneration?

 

3.  Are you going to location(s) where you'll both feel relatively comfortable together?

 

4.  If it's a trip over 3-4 days, do you have a plan if things go insufferably south?

[bkkguy]

do you have a plan if things go insufferably south?

 

given the current situation I would not suggest going further south than Surat Thani or Hat Yai at a pinch!

 

bkkguy

[reader]

given the current situation I would not suggest going further south than Surat Thani or Hat Yai at a pinch!

 

bkkguy

 

Agree.  It would be very risque to pinch your gogo boy in either place.

[spoon]

One thing to take the guy anywhere in thailand, another to take them overseas. It might be their first time, out of their routine, in terms of food, weather, culture, and of course they might have other responsibility back home. All these things keep playing in my mind, and of course the money involve. It wont be cheap for sure, but at least i will be prepared.

 

Thanks for all the advise guys. Kept my mind sane for a while, I probably will have to go to bkk and discuss face to face all the plans and money before even thinking about committing to it.

 

Any other stories bad or good are welcome!

[DivineMadman]

I've done it many times, each time was great.  Of course, past results are no guarantee of future success.

 

Agree 100% that all the money arrangements need to be discussed up front.  I don't take guys shopping and I make that clear.  But what I do is give the guys some pocket money on the first day so if they want to buy something, get food, pick up the dinner tab, whatever, they can.  To my surprise the unspent money is almost always returned to me.  (!)  If traveling out of Thailand and his home country, of course I always get him a SIM card on arrival when I get mine.  

 

Once I travelled for a couple of weeks in Vietnam with someone I had only met once, but that is the exception -  it's usually someone I've been with several times and done some sort of tourist activity in BKK (or environs).

 

Agree 100% that you cannot/should not expect sex on demand all the time.  I also make sure there is some alone time every day.  That's probably more for my benefit than his, but I do think it is a good idea.

 

As far as a plan of what happens if things go "south" (bad) - I've never discussed it ahead of time, I guess it seems a little threatening to me, but I would have no problem putting somone on the next flight home if necessary.

 

Common problem situations I've faced-

 

-- I like to go out and about in the daytime.  For some of the guys two days in the sun will turn them deeply dark and, as they see it, hurt their livelihood.  So I try to be reasonably accommodating.  I let them know I'm aware of it.  I bring and share my extra-strong sunscreen lotion.  On one trip we bought an umbrella.  I learned always to find a shaded side of the street to walk on.  

 

-- I like to go to sleep at night.  Often the guys are on sleep during the day schedule, so getting them onto my schedule means they're jet lagged.

 

-- Sometimes the travel situation can be intimidating for the guys.  Last year I did a trip to Bali with someone who had never left Thailand, and another trip to Malaysia with a Cambodian guy who I don't think had even been on a plane before.  Something to be aware of.  Sometimes this means explaining ahead of time the rule about liquids on carry-on luggage, and little things like that, but other times it just means being mindful that they may be excited and having a great time, but also stressed.

 

-- Food.  OMG food.  I have never seen anyone so happy as when I found a Thai restaurant in Ubud for my Thai companion.  I know some Laos guys who are true foodies and adventurous eaters, but a lot of the guys are not and food, comfort food, family food, food like they grew up with, is very important to them.  Something I try to be aware of and help with.  Also, taking someone to a restaurant with a menu in english doesn't really help those guys.  Let them pick the restaurants.  Put up with sitting on those little plastic chairs.  Find restaurants with pictures on the menu.

 

I know several guys who are veteran travelers with customers and know the drill and how to make it work out.  (And because they have probably had their fair share of bad experiences, they will be particularly appreciative of good treatment.)  I hate to say this, but a mamasan might help make an introduction to guys  he knows are good at traveling with customers.  

 

Overall, It's always worked out great for me.  Part of the fun for me, however, is taking the trip with someone who is also having fun and an adventure so by making that part of my mindset I think it helps and so far everyone's had a good time.  The hardest part of the trip is when it's over.

[spoon]

"The hardest part of the trip is when it's over"

 

Another point that make me scare of commitment to such trip. It could be a trip of lifetime and i dont want it to end lol. And then what? One of us will have to go back to real life while another will be left alone and poorer haha

[numazu]

I've always thought that if the boy brings up the idea of him being your tour guide to a particular place, and you've always wanted to go to that place, then you should take him up on that offer. As an example, Cambodia Boy, the boy of the trip for my trip this time last year, really wanted to show me his country:

 

http://www.gaythailand.com/forums/topic/10550-bangkokphnom-penhsiem-reap-trip-report-the-more-things-change-the-more-they-stay-the-same/

 

It was hugely successful, as the trip report suggests, but it did help that I've known this boy for over 6 months before the actual trip. Trip planning is a fun joint activity, and the logistics from where to stay, what to do, the fee situation, and even sleeping arrangements (in case you do find another boy to fill your nights), is important to iron out before the actual trip. Sample:

I left the last trip nursing a huge infatuation with Cambodia Boy (CB), and I am eager to see him again this September. We’ve been talking to each other almost everyday about my next trip. One thing is clear: he wants me to go to Cambodia. This serves multiple purposes. For one, I’ve never been before, and I am eager to visit this burgeoning destination for people like me, who tour for both the sites and the boys. And another, September is in the middle of the low season so for CB, its the perfect time to go back to Cambodia, since there are not a lot of customers getting his services in Thailand, so staying in Thailand during the low season is probably getting too expensive for him. Plus it is a chance for him to see family and friends. CB has been telling me that during low season, Jomtien Complex is usually a ghost town during the week.

 

Sex on demand was not an issue, and usually was almost expected, at least once a day. He even found 2 other Jomtien boys, also in Cambodia that month to ride out the low season, to have a threesome with. He arranged the car that took us from PP to SR. Since it was his country, a lot of the details I left to him. He really earned his fee in that trip.

 

I've also had a lot of success with BurBoy, but he has no off fees (he is free) and is essentially a boyfriend. The only thing he needed to do is ask for vacation time at his restaurant, and he's always been available for me when I ask. Then again I don't go back as much (as I want to).

 

Recently, the "Korean", from Jupiter, has brought up the idea of being my companion if I ever wanted to visit Chiang Mai. This idea came up when we were having our post-coitus conversation. For me, it always pays off to talk to the boy, because I like a good story, and you never know what other things the boy has up his sleeve (other than sex):

In the shower we talk about more things. He said that after the Songkran season with many customers, he returned to Chiang Mai to visit, and went back to Bangkok after that. He said tonight was his first night back in a long while, and he won’t be back to Jupiter tomorrow night. He said he’d be back a few times this week, but he wasn’t sure. He’s still trying to save enough money to continue getting inventory.

 

...

 

As we make our way back to Soi 4, Korean kept talking to me, and we were having a much more pleasant conversation now than earlier when we were walking to the hotel. He was explaining to me the different regions of Thailand, as well as regional accents and words that are unique to each region. He gives me some examples of a word that was different in Bangkok, Isaan and Chiang Mai. He also tried to tell me how the different accents sounded like. It was a good lesson in the regionality of Thailand. It was quite an unexpected subject matter from a money boy.

 

So all the times I've done this was successful (YMMV), even in other countries/continents. The key, for me at least, for it to be successful, is if the idea came from the boy. If you find out that a boy that you have incredible rapport with wants to visit incredible places with you, let him.

[DivineMadman]

"The hardest part of the trip is when it's over"

 

Another point that make me scare of commitment to such trip. It could be a trip of lifetime and i dont want it to end lol. And then what? One of us will have to go back to real life while another will be left alone and poorer haha

 

True of so many great experiences, so don't deny yourself -- or your potential companion -- of the opportunity.  As long as you're being honest with yourself (and your companion), everything will be ok and you'll always have the good memories, even if tinged by a hint of "tristesse."  

 

If you believe in the value of experiences, then the line about travel is true:  Travel is the only expense that makes you richer.

[ChristianPFC]

Are you speaking of travelling in Thailand (or the boy's homecountry if he is not Thai) or in a country foreign to a boy?

 

In principle I would (travel with a boy in his homecountry), however preliminary checks (staying overnight = long time, talking) has always shown incompatibilities: different sleep-wake rhythms (when I wake up at 8, I want to leave for sightseeing at 9, and cant' wait for the boy to wake up at 12), different food preferences, different interests (I like temples, museums, mountains, forest, national parks and abhor the idea of lying in the sun on sand) and physical abilities (for me every distance under 5 km is walking distance, for most boys every distance longer than 500 m has be done by driving).

 

given the current situation I would not suggest going further south than Surat Thani or Hat Yai at a pinch! bkkguy

Agree.  It would be very risque to pinch your gogo boy in either place.

Have any of you been further south then Surat Thani or Hat Yai? I have, and can only tell positive.

[Boy69]

The huge advantage with taking a local boy to travel with you is that he knows the culture and the local language so it's more easy for you to get by just ask the boy what is needed and he will sorte it out.You just have to find the right boy, I did it couple of times in the past and had great fun much more interesting then travelling alone in Thailand.I am not a butterfly by nature and if I find the boy I like I prefer to be a long term with him the problem is that sometimes the boy had grown expectations for more serious relationship and even marriage and taking them to my country and then the troubles begin ... then I needed to cool things up, lots of tears at the other side...

Just be honest with the boy from the beginning and make agreement with him what you expect from him and his wage for the escort.

[Guest]

I have never done this, but often wonder if it would be sensible to bring a boy along when visiting destinations where it's more difficult to find company for the night.      However, I would probably need to either reschedule the holidays with more audition time up front or keep in touch with some of the better boys from the previous trips.

 

The first obvious idea is to take a Gay Romeo boy, since there are no off fees.    Then the next point is that provincial hotels are less likely to have a room safe, so this point would need careful research.  Also, a good level of trust would be required.

 

I have observed that colleagues show fly a boy off somewhere are not repeating this very often, neither with the original boy nor another one.

 

 

As for travelling south of Surat Thani, well places I have visited include Surat Thani, Krabi (Ao Nang), Phuket (Patong Beach) & Hat Yai.   I've also travelled overland into Malaysia, although not via the allegedly more dodgy east coast.

[traveller123]

I had a disaster taking a boy from Pattaya to Chiang Mai and then to Hua Hin.

We just didn't get along and ended by mutual agreement with him going back alone early to Pattaya.

Two days later while I was still in Hua Hin I met a guy and after a couple of days together he agreed to come with me for the remaining four days of my holiday to Pattaya.

This was the complete opposite it was just so easy and enjoyable but the unexpected happened I really fell for the guy and ----8 years later we are still together and he makes me happy every single day.

So Spoon just be aware that spending a long time together could have unplanned consequences!

[spoon]

Awesome stories. Totally understandable that a being together travelling is the best way to know the other person. And depends on how you perceive the other guy, you can either fell for the guy or hate him. There is one quote that says you'll only know someone better if you do these 3 things, live with him, doing business with him and travelling with him. The first two is pretty much taken care of if you have stay long time or more with the boy lol.

 

Anyway, it will be wise for me to meet the boy again and discuss face to face first. Hopefully all goes well when the times comes, whenever that is. Now to fantasize where to go lol

[1moRussian]

Do you have his Line/WhatsApp etc?

[spoon]

I do but i dont think itll be a good idea to start asking without having a firm plan first. And i do believe that i needed more time to know the boy first before asking him to travel with me. Its just some of things i had in mind. I always try to find opportunities to travel whenever i can, usually with friends but with works and other commitment and not to mention most of my friends are married by now, i started to travel solo. I did hong kong solo, Tokyo, osaka and kyoto partly solo, and thailand solo twice now. And all of these places and some other great places with gay life (sauna, massage etc) are great for solo travelling, there are other places that would require some sort of companion to go with, like say most islands in indonesia, or jeju, or even lombok and bali.

[denny59]

This to me sounds unwise...picking up a go go boy..you know nothing about him..trust?? he likes thai food you do not...what are his habits, likes and dislikes....I think NOT...go alone...or hire an actual tour guide to go with you,,then pick up sex worker at a bar or massage place where you tour..then back to touring..

[vinapu]

 

 The key, for me at least, for it to be successful, is if the idea came from the boy. 

Can't say I agree since in such a case one will be realizing boy's agenda , not his own. It may or may not work.

 

Only advice I can add to all in the thread above is that I wouldn't even contemplate  taking boy with me if I did not have at least 2 Long time offs with him.

[spoon]

This to me sounds unwise...picking up a go go boy..you know nothing about him..trust?? he likes thai food you do not...what are his habits, likes and dislikes....I think NOT...go alone...or hire an actual tour guide to go with you,,then pick up sex worker at a bar or massage place where you tour..then back to touring..

Maybe i should make a point that i lived in a country just south of thailand and we had similar taste in food, thats for sure lol. But i get your point on travelling with strangers though its not unheard of, there are a bunch of sites just for that, couch surfers, travel buddy etc.

 

From what i gather here, there are equal good and bad stories from forumer here, enough to make me put on hold until i know this guy better. Thanks all!

[spoon]

Can't say I agree since in such a case one will be realizing boy's agenda , not his own. It may or may not work.

 

Only advice I can add to all in the thread above is that I wouldn't even contemplate taking boy with me if I did not have at least 2 Long time offs with him.

Thats the whole point of taking gogo boy right? Otherwise i'd just take a friend with me haha.