From ST to LT to a nightmare

[Boy69]

I had odd experience lately, I was at one of the bars in BT Pattaya (I don't want to expose to much details) I saw stunning boy on the stage he seems more than a "dancing/ host" boy than a regular gogo boy I didn't off him but didn't stop thinking about him he was really young stunning star back in my room I saw him at the hornet and approached him he immediately agreed to come to my room for 1500 Bhat ST for my surprise after the sex he asked to stay with me all my vacation about 3 weeks including Phuket and BKK for 1500 a day ,he was really special and beautiful so I agreed immediately he came to my room the day after as agreed.the first 2 days were great and I have had wonderful time with the boy , afterwards something strange happened he became rude,aggressive, doesn't want to huge,kiss or fuck anymore I tried my best to understand what was the problem with him at the next days but with no success, at the end I have a fight with him that we can't continue be together with such kind of behavior and he decided to leave my room , I paid what we agreed in advance. after 4 hours he sent me messages that he want to come with me to Phuket and that he really like me, I was completely amazed just 4 hours ago he left and now he wants to come back and escort me to Phuket and BKK ??? I told him there is no way I'll take a boy that is not willing to huge, kiss or fuck with me and was disappointed and promised to change and that he really likes me but although he was stunning I was tried from his behavior.

Till now I completely puzzled, Did someone have similar experience? Can someone explain what is wrong with the boy or maybe with me?

 

Unfortunately I do like him and now I am in my way to Phuket and do miss him.

[bobsaigon]

His behavior probably cannot be explained.  Maybe even he doesn't know why he acted that way.  May I suggest that you keep an eye open for a new stunning boy.     There are quite a few of them in Thailand, as you have seen. 

[a447a]

Maybe he got a better offer, and then that offer fell through. So he wanted to come back to you.

 

Who knows? Whatever the reason, you can be sure it involved money.

[aussie_]

Unfortunately many bar and go go boys and are using substances which cause mood swings and worse.

[Guest samebb]

I would get to know a boy a bit better before making travel comittments. I have seen mood swings before. I to sent him away. Never made sense of it either as it was immediate. Happened in 2 minutes and it was something from his phone.

[Boy69]

It was not a regular boy his appearance was really amazing like a teenage movie star one you can't ignore when you see ,one time we went through girls bars and they actually screamed enthusiastically when they saw him. I guess I loosened my sense with him and shouldn't commit to a trip to Phuket so quickly before knowing him better .I guess if I took him with me to Phuket and BKK it would be a disaster.

[steveboy]

Stunning boys are known to be human and have mood swings.   I imagine that not all have been professionally trained to maintain total control of their emotions. To be together all day long with a stranger for 3 weeks as a sex object may not be all heavenly, but I don't know for sure because I was never in this situation.

[bobsaigon]

.... To be together all day long with a stranger for 3 weeks as a sex object may not be all heavenly, .....

 

Absolutely right.  We farangs sometimes find it difficult to keep that in mind.

[a447a]

For me to spend every single day over a period of 3 weeks with a guy, there would have to be more to it than just sex. There would have to be some serious chemistry between us.

[Boy69]

For me to spend every single day over a period of 3 weeks with a guy, there would have to be more to it than just sex. There would have to be some serious chemistry between us.

You're correct at the first days it seems that there is chemistry between us and all was fine the troubles started at the third day I tried to sort it out but after a week I had enough it became a nightmare and then he decided to leave my room I guess he predicted that I am going to throw him away anyway.

[Guest]

I wouldn't be agreeing to spend 3 weeks with anyone after 1 meeting.   A longer trial period is needed.   The commitment only really becomes necessary when it's time to book him on the plane to Phuket.

 

Bar boys are human & their mood can change.  The one who I've seen the most (~8 times over 3 trips) has been fine with me, but a colleague offed him twice & he got really aggressive on the second off with my colleague.   My colleague tips well & boys usually seem happy for multiple offs.

 

I've seen mood change due to drug use as well.

[vinapu]

Two years ago I took BBB boy from Pattaya to Bkk for just 5 days but this was his idea not mine and we negotiated conditions up front including guaranteed at least 2 nights together for an extra charge on top of his daily rate. 

 

He wasn't completely unknown to me because we spent together 4 previous nights

 

He even gave me 'permission ' to  bring other boys at will and offered he will be sleeping on the floor in such a case ( I rented him cheap room in hotel nearby to avoid such indignity ).

 

It went relatively well as we both kept our sides of bargain as I made sure every day we parted ways for few hours just to have breathing space but still we had few moments of tension as he found sightseeing of Grand Palace and Muang Boran  boring and 

was complaining that I'm too generous to  boy I hired to crowd our bed one night.

 

After 5 days it seemed we were both relieved it's over. In Ekkamai after boarding the bus he did not even bother to check if I'm still on the platform ( I was with one or two tears until bus departed ). In retrospect after  returning home I thought and still do that those inconveniences  were minor and probably with do the same. Main trade - you have body , I have money worked without a glitch and even if I spent fortune on him that trip I'm still smiling.

 

My  prescription  for a success of such  undertaking would be:

 

set clearly your expectations and let him freely express his ( I will be seeing other boys , he wanted at least 3 paid nights together , I promised 2 but we still had three)

 

set compensation in stone and don't let him to try to extract more money unless you are OK with that

 

make sure each of you has some free time every day

 

if you are dining separately make sure you provide him with some money so he can his meal on you which would be case anyways if you were to dine together

 

respect his limits and ensure he  observes yours ( he preferred to shower separately , I wanted TV to be off all the time we are together in the room )  

[Boy69]

I know that beeing together 24 hours a day is difficult so I agreed to the boy's terms he liked his bar so I agreed that he worked there everyday and come back immediately to my room once finished also I agreed that he can go to his parnets nearby house whenever he wanted to but it seems the more freedom I gave him the more rude and aggressive he became to me ,I don't understand what happened and why he acted that way.maybe I was too soft with him I don't know.

[Boy69]

I know that beeing together 24 hours a day is difficult so I agreed to the boy's terms he liked his bar so I agreed that he worked there everyday and come back immediately to my room once finished also I agreed that he can go to his parnets nearby house whenever he wanted to but it seems the more freedom I gave him the more rude and aggressive he became to me ,I don't understand what happened and why he acted that way.maybe I was too soft with him I don't know.

[halfhansum]

Familiarity Breeds Contempt ... (The old sayings are the best ..LOL)

[vinapu]

 it seems the more freedom I gave him the more rude and aggressive he became to me 

don't sweat this stuff who was at fault, what counts is that you managed to shake him off and don't look back unless you like to be manipulated.

 

It did not work, so be it. move on. It happened before and will happen again to most of us. Sometimes we learn why , sometimes it will be mystery forever, yes, it's disappointing but so is twice - weekly lottery draw and we are still playing

[ggobkk]

Last year, I traveled with a boy from Hot Male to Pattaya for two nights/three days.  It was the right amount of time. As mentioned by Vinapu we agreed to leave some time each day as personal time.  One night we went to the bars in Jomtien.  He saw that i was interested in one of the boys at @Home.  He clarified to the boy that I could be available, let me know that he was o.k. with staying out a for a few  hours while I indulged myself, which I did.

[vinapu]

 let me know that he was o.k. with staying out a for a few  hours while I indulged myself, which I did.

He had correct understanding of his situation that he is just hired help and probably did not even think about trying to force himself upon you as a boyfriend.

 

Win win situation , you could spend your vacations way you like , boy got an income and short paid time off from bar.

From time to time we need to make sure  that we are in control of our own agenda and if taking boy with us for few days we better make sure  it was OUR idea , not boy's so we don't have anybody to blame if things will not go according to specification.

[Boy69]

don't sweat this stuff who was at fault, what counts is that you managed to shake him off and don't look back unless you like to be manipulated.

 

It did not work, so be it. move on. It happened before and will happen again to most of us. Sometimes we learn why , sometimes it will be mystery forever, yes, it's disappointing but so is twice - weekly lottery draw and we are still playing

Good advice Vinapu thanks !

The boy was probably a professional manipulator and I became tired of his behavior. Enough is enough!

I don't know what he was trying to achieve with his rude behaviour but at the end it was his lost; he lost a wonderful vacation in Phuket & BKK and a sustainable amount of money for 2 weeks escort.

[Guest]

don't sweat this stuff who was at fault, what counts is that you managed to shake him off and don't look back unless you like to be manipulated.

 

Absolutely.   Plenty more fish in the sea.    Forget this one and move on. 

[vinapu]

I don't know what he was trying to achieve with his rude behaviour but at the end it was his lost; he lost a wonderful vacation in Phuket & BKK and a sustainable amount of money for 2 weeks escort.

Perhaps something he considered better opportunity came along and  not to lose face he manipulated you to throw him out instead of him quitting on you. Just my guess. 

 

As an example , I already reported in May 2015 case when I agreed to highest long time tip I ever paid and Tawan boy still at the last minute decided he must go with another customer leaving me in the dust. Whether he liked other guy better , he offered higher tip or was ordered to drop me my the management is irrelevant.

 

If you really like the boy , nothing stops you from   offing him next trip although my advice would be again, forget about him and move on.

[Boy69]

Perhaps something he considered better opportunity came along and not to lose face he manipulated you to throw him out instead of him quitting on you. Just my guess.

 

As an example , I already reported in May 2015 case when I agreed to highest long time tip I ever paid and Tawan boy still at the last minute decided he must go with another customer leaving me in the dust. Whether he liked other guy better , he offered higher tip or was ordered to drop me my the management is irrelevant.

 

If you really like the boy , nothing stops you from offing him next trip although my advice would be again, forget about him and move on.

It's not possible because after 4 hours he left he massaged me that he wants to come to Phuket

With me and if so why did he left my room ?

There is no way I am offing him again such kind of manipulative behavior is not acceptable. maybe he's using substances as one of the members of the forum suggested which cause radical moods changes.

[Guest]

It's not possible because after 4 hours he left he massaged me that he wants to come to Phuket

With me and if so why did he left my room ?

There is no way I am offing him again such kind of manipulative behavior is not acceptable. maybe he's using substances as one of the members of the forum suggested which cause radical moods changes.

 

Well you're right not to off him again.  

As for thinking this over, well I hope you are analysing it with no emotion & purely for the purposes of learning what to look out for with other people in the future. Do not allow yourself to be stressed about this.

 

Incidentally, even though I use a temporary Thai SIM, I tend to give them a Line ID rather than my phone number.   Blocking them on Line leaves nothing in my call log.  Also, if I do want to keep in touch when back home with my usual SIM card, Line works fine.

Also, the phone is set to not ring during sleeping hours. 

[Alexx]

Same here, z909, nowadays my Line ID is all that casual encounters get from me.

[ChristianPFC]

Also, the phone is set to not ring during sleeping hours. 

 

A lesson I learnt the hard way (at night shortly before falling asleep, or in the morning half awake I had calls that were not important).

 

As for Line or phone number, I prefer texting to calling, so I give out or ask for Line anyway. But a few boys I know have only basic phone without Line, or they don't have data all the time, and in these cases I ask for their telephone number so I can call them when I want to meet them and can't reach them on Line.