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[sglad]

The ones I met were through friends of friends. Socialising when not looking for sex is probably they key. Weekdays in DJ station.. I know a couple who go. But they will probably shun you pretty quick if you try get in their group.

 

You have been here longer than me. If you haven't managed it by now, you probably wont.

 

samebb is right.  If you haven't met them by now, you probably won't. But meeting regular Thai people is the easiest thing.  They may be shy at the first but they'll quickly warm up to you once they know you're fun to hang around with.  As with everywhere else in the world, an easy-and-outgoing personality helps.  You start by making one friend and then another and then another as they introduce you to their friends.  In my experience, the easiest way is to join a game of basketball or football (soccer).  Do you live in a middle class neighbourhood or near a university?  Hang around the courts and look interested in the game.  Indicate your interest to join.  Granted it was easier for me because we had plenty of ice-breaking activities during orientation when I first arrived.  Another good way of meeting people is through volunteering.  What about your job?  That should be another avenue.  Find out what your colleagues do in their spare time and try to get invited.  As I said, Thais are quite shy and you must make the first move.  Always say yes when people invite you out for the first time, even if the activity sounds the most banal to your own sensitivities.  You might actually end up enjoying it.  You can always decline subsequent invites if you don't.  Again, if you send out the vibe that you're a cool guy who's fun to hang out with, who's open-minded and who's willing to try and experience new things, especially things out of your comfort zone, you'll make friends easily.  It is the same in Thailand as it is in Singapore or Germany.

 

As for specifically wanting to meet rich people, I don't know.  I'm not rich and this group tend to hang around in similar circles.  Their lifestyle would be quite different from mine.  That said, I do have a few friends who I guess come from wealthy families but this is purely coincidental and I did not purposely seek them out.  Again, I met them through mutual friends and interests.

 

Good luck!

[sglad]

"Yeh mate! So why can't I be Vietnamese?"

 

Because you have already told us you are Singaporean!

 

 

Nice try there, you little rattler! Soo cute and lethal but best on a handbag - my stalker's!  You said I can't be Singaporean and that I'm actually Australian because of the alleged boo-boo I made on the legality of prostitution in Sg.  Have you already forgotten what you wrote in post 172 above?

 

That's interesting. Had Singapore suddenly legalised prostitution?? Surely not.

 

So I googled it and lo and behold, it was Australia which had recently legalised it! Along with Vietnam and a couple of other countries, if I recall.

 

 

 

So, I ask you again, why can't I be Vietnamese or from a "couple of other countries" for they too, according to you, had recently legalised prostitution?  Why did you anoint me as Australian?

 

As for that so-called trap that Stalker-Fountainhole laid for me, that rubbish was trashed in my self-intro/sawatdii pii mai thread which is here somewhere.  Disingenuous of you to bring this up and not mention that thread which you aggressively participated in. 

[a447a]

"Why did you anoint me as Australian?"

 

Your "anointed" yourself as Australian.

 

Had you realised your mistake earlier you could have rushed back and changed your OP before the time limit ran out.

 

Please explain the two IP addresses. You "forgot" to address that point.

[sglad]

"Why did you anoint me as Australian?"

 

Your "anointed" yourself as Australian.

 

 

 

No, I didn't.  You did.  Based on your reasoning, why couldn't have I been Vietnamese or from a "couple of others countries" that you mentioned also recently legalised prostitution? It's not difficult; you made the allegation only a few posts ago.  No need to refer to old news.

[sglad]

Again, if you send out the vibe that you're a cool guy who's fun to hang out with, who's open-minded and who's willing to try and experience new things, especially things out of your comfort zone, you'll make friends easily.  It is the same in Thailand as it is in Singapore or Germany.

 

PS You live in Bangkok, don't you?  There are plenty of organised activities that you can join: dancing, arts and crafts, bird-watching groups, animal rescuers, etc.  Scour your local papers.  A lot of gays are involved in these sorts of activities.  You like languages right?  Join a language class popular with Thais, say. Mandarin, Korean or Japanese.  A friend of mine met a cute Thai doctor at his Korean class.  It's no guarantee but it can happen.

[a447a]

Please explain the two IP addresses. You "forgot" to address that point.

 

Again.

[sglad]

Please explain the two IP addresses. You "forgot" to address that point.

 

Again.

 

Stop pretending that you're a moderator.  Why, according to you, am I Australian and not, also according to you, from Vietnam or a "couple of other countries" which also recently legalised prostitution.  This is not rocket science and I'm not asking you to verify hearsay or unseen things that allegedly went on another board which you were banned from for harassing the owner and other posters when you couldn't have your way, which is what you're doing now.  Remember, I didn't start the personal attacks in this thread; you and reader did.  Again, I'm asking you about something that you brought up only a few moments ago on this very thread and is clear for everyone to see. 

[a447a]

Why aren't you from Vietnam?

 

Because you wrote this :

 

"This trip home has been good as I've been feeling a little homesick as silly as that sounds with Singapore being under 3 hours away."

 

http://www.gaythailand.com/forums/topic/10968-sawatdii-pii-mai/

 

So how could you possibly be Vietnamese?

 

Now, those pesky IP addresses.....

[sglad]

Why aren't you from Vietnam?

 

Because you wrote this :

 

"This trip home has been good as I've been feeling a little homesick as silly as that sounds with Singapore being under 3 hours away."

 

http://www.gaythailand.com/forums/topic/10968-sawatdii-pii-mai/

 

So how could you possibly be Vietnamese?

 

Yes, I am from Singapore.  I just checked my pink NRIC again, thanks!  But you're the one who's saying that I'm not and that I'm in fact Australian in post 172 above.  So I'm asking you, based on your own reasoning and story in post 172 above, why am I Australian and not Vietnamese or some other country which also recently legalised prostitution?  You also said I was Australian on SN yesterday.

[a447a]

Because they don't speak English in those other countries. Australia is the only English-speaking country mentioned.

[sglad]

Because they don't speak English in those other countries. Australia is the only English-speaking country mentioned.

 

Bingo!  This is the prejudiced, ignorant, blinkered response I was waiting for.  So a person can only have good English if he or she comes from an English-speaking country. (Australians speak English?  Geez, you could have fooled me. )  Education, background, environment and self-motivation have no impact.  The situation on the ground has no impact.  Never met a Thai or Vietnamese who went to an international school or boarding school in the UK, have you?  Oh that's right, what would they want to do with you.  I'm going to have my dinner now.  You're not invited.  Bye.

 

PS Which hoe is it going to be tonight?

[ChristianPFC]

Thanks to both of you (samebb and sglad - wherever you come from and whoever you are) for your advice.

 

In my experience, the easiest way is to join a game of basketball or football (soccer).

 

There we go again: ball games! In my entire life, I was forced about 10 times to participate in ball games (football or volleyball during school - in the army they quickly realized I'm of no use and I was allowed to spend the time running around the football field, an activity I enjoy much more). Yes indeed, I get invitations to join, but sorry, if that's the way to meet cute boys, I rather pay.

 

The statistic is against me when it comes to meeting possible sexual partners via friends or friends of friends: assuming the group is not gay, there is a chance of 1:20 that one of them is gay, another 1:20 that he is my type, another 1:20 that I'm his type, that makes 1:8000.

 

I once had an invitation to join a boy (good English) to church (!), better than football, at least I can enjoy the architecture, but I fell uncomfortable during religious activities.

 

It seems I have been through all options and there is only the gay saunas (free) and gay bars (pay) left for me.

 

I haven't been to DJ station this year (?) but it's on my list, I will watch out.

[numazu]

The statistic is against me when it comes to meeting possible sexual partners via friends or friends of friends: assuming the group is not gay, there is a chance of 1:20 that one of them is gay, another 1:20 that he is my type, another 1:20 that I'm his type, that makes 1:8000.

 

It doesn't mean you shouldn't try. You won't win if you don't play the game in the first place. The worse thing that can happen is that you will get more friends in the process, and that is always nice. More friends is always good, in my opinion, especially if you're a foreigner.

 

I've met many sexual partners just hanging out with friends, and meeting their friends etc. Invariably, some of my friends are more assertive than I am, so they can also draw in new people to our circle, widening my chances to meet someone new.

 

If you go in to this with that 1:8000 in your head then you won't have fun. Just relax and enjoy the company! You'll be surprised at what happens next.

[steveboy]

It doesn't mean you shouldn't try. You won't win if you don't play the game in the first place. The worse thing that can happen is that you will get more friends in the process, and that is always nice. More friends is always good, in my opinion, especially if you're a foreigner.

 

If he has to go through 8000 friends to have the probability to meet ONE sexual partner, he may end up with one or two sexual partners in his life  (for some religious people this is enough...)

 

Isn't this the same as playing the lottery for income, hoping for the remote probability to win the big price?

[steveboy]

There we go again: ball games! In my entire life, I was forced about 10 times to participate in ball games (football or volleyball during school - in the army they quickly realized I'm of no use and I was allowed to spend the time running around the football field, an activity I enjoy much more). Yes indeed, I get invitations to join, but sorry, if that's the way to meet cute boys, I rather pay.

 

I'm amazed how much I identify with what you write.  As a child I was always scared in ball games, and I still feel nervous when a ball comes my way and I have to do something with it.  On the other hand I have thrived in individual, non-competitive exercising and have gone to the gym since young adult.  Result: I still fit into the clothes from 30 years ago, while my former peers who won all those ball games... I won't speak about them.

[numazu]

sglad: I have some suggestions, if I may. Feel free to skip these. I've had too much coffee this morning it seems, already posting in the board twice in an hour.

 

It is apparent by now that whenever you post, you have a few posters going after you due to your colored history in the various gay thailand boards including this one. And when that happens ,the rest of us are subjected to the same arguments that has been rehashed ad infinitum in previous threads.

 

So I think you have three options at this point:

 

1. Start fresh! If the mere presence of the username sglad sounds off alarm bells with certain posters, triggering this useless back and forth, may I suggest just retiring the name, coming up with a new one, contribute to this board as you have done, without the baggage of the old name. You obviously have things to say, and some useful and practical too, so why not just start fresh? It is obvious to most of us here that you are pretending, so that baggage unfairly colors some of the posts you make. Do we really need to know that you are a hot 20-something Singaporean living in Chiang Mai, when you post your opinions? Sometimes being anonymous works.

 

2. Prove them wrong! I read somewhere that some forum member tried to meet up with you in Chiang Mai but you cancelled at the last minute. Why don't you try to meet up with other posters (not sugargrandpa apparently) in the future so they can vouch for you. A character reference is always nice. A shit ton of posters didn't believe me when I started my first trip report (and who cares, right), but I've met almost 20+ now since then, and some even have seen me in action. And it doesn't help that you refuse to answer to the IP address thing directly. Its not cool to sockpuppet man.

 

3. Continue on with the status quo! And whenever you post, the same people, or more, will call you out on past transgressions. Some here are already being judged by their past behavior, and anything they say is colored by the trolling they did in the past. So if you don't do anything, all of us will continue to be subjected to this useless back and forth.

 

And with this, I shall now try to limit my coffee intake to one cup in the morning, instead of 3.

[Guest samebb]

Thanks to both of you (samebb and sglad - wherever you come from and whoever you are) for your advice.

 

 

There we go again: ball games! In my entire life, I was forced about 10 times to participate in ball games (football or volleyball during school - in the army they quickly realized I'm of no use and I was allowed to spend the time running around the football field, an activity I enjoy much more). Yes indeed, I get invitations to join, but sorry, if that's the way to meet cute boys, I rather pay.

 

The statistic is against me when it comes to meeting possible sexual partners via friends or friends of friends: assuming the group is not gay, there is a chance of 1:20 that one of them is gay, another 1:20 that he is my type, another 1:20 that I'm his type, that makes 1:8000.

 

I once had an invitation to join a boy (good English) to church (!), better than football, at least I can enjoy the architecture, but I fell uncomfortable during religious activities.

 

It seems I have been through all options and there is only the gay saunas (free) and gay bars (pay) left for me.

 

I haven't been to DJ station this year (?) but it's on my list, I will watch out.

Your missing the point. If everyone you meet is done under the pretext of getting a fuck, you wont make many friends lol. It's alright to have friends who are cute that you don't have sex with. In fact, it can be a big plus.

[a447a]

"1. Start fresh! If the mere presence of the username sglad.........."

 

That advice was given to him early on but he refused to listen.

 

As I said, there is nothing to suggest he doesn't live in Chiang Mai, so any information he gives on gay establishments could probably be useful.

 

There was never a need to identify as Asian or as "young" - why would a member want to tell us that? It is totally irrelevant and does not add any credibility. On the contrary, it can detract from it.

 

Someone creating a fake persona on the internet is hardly new. But we are a small community sharing a common interest. Surely it isn't too much to expect that members display honesty towards each other and refrain from using the forum as their personal playroom.

 

We have to demonstrate respect towards each other, but it is hard to respect someone who is demonstrably lying to the members.

[reader]

Sglad originally posted on all three boards (going back as far as '07) with a different user name, although at some point appended it on SN with --old.  The registration info he provided would place him now in his mid-70's (a neighborhood many find ourselves in). To the best of my knowledge, that original handle remains active on all boards but is only used currently on GB.

 

He listed Bangkok as his home and some posts described himself as an English teacher. At some point he adopted a second handle that he's using in in this thread and has used on SN. He also appears to have at least one other user name here and two others on SN. One veteran SN contributor sees a Beachlover connection.  I really wasn't following the boards closely then so I won't comment on that.

 

It's sad because some of his posts provide useful information and insights.  Others, however, about his life as a Singaporean "uni" student or stressed out young man, detract from his original persona and leave readers unsure where he draws the line between reality and fiction .

 

As I've said in another thread, why not have a  forum on the board where members can try their hand at fiction? I suspect Sglad might fare quite well.

[a447a]

Your missing the point. If everyone you meet is done under the pretext of getting a fuck, you wont make many friends lol. It's alright to have friends who are cute that you don't have sex with. In fact, it can be a big plus.

But I think Christian finds it difficult to socialise and I'm guessing he really isn't interested in just chatting to someone, enjoying their company and then saying goodbye. Or joining in a game to get to know new people.

 

If he expects every encounter to end in a fuck, he may not have a lot of success.

[Guest samebb]

But I think Christian finds it difficult to socialise and I'm guessing he really isn't interested in just chatting to someone, enjoying their company and then saying goodbye. Or joining in a game to get to know new people.

 

If he expects every encounter to end in a fuck, he may not have a lot of success.

I have loads of friends in Bangkok... Had sex with only 1 of them... but that was a bf thing at first

 

I dont see having sex with friends as a good idea.

 

Maybe I am weird haha

[bobsaigon]

reader:  thanks for the clarification, verification re sglad.    And thanks to Numazu for your suggestions.  Both of you have provided calm, reasoned, unassailable comments on this situation.

 

I agree, it would be great to have a separate forum for fiction writers.  That would avoid any disrespect to board members when people persist in posting in one of their multiple personas.

[a447a]

"I dont see having sex with friends as a good idea."

 

There is a chance it could ruin the friendship.

 

For me, sex is not always the expected outcome of a meeting. I've sat and chatted to lots of guys in gay establishments in many countries without ever wanting to have sex with them.

[Alexx]

Totally agree, a447a, same with me.

[alex303]

Is it me....or has this thread 'drifted' a bit off topic...