Guest samebb Posted July 8, 2017 Posted July 8, 2017 Read carefully next time, samebb - Rollingstone asked about guys, who never make to the stage Cool ok. I was just waking up haha.
Serendeputy Posted July 8, 2017 Posted July 8, 2017 We all have to watch our budgets, indeed I am probably facing a reduced daily budget this coming trip But that said, generally on my holidays, time is even more precious than money; getting the best I can out of each day. If I see a lad who is carbonating my hormones just by smiling at me, am I really going walk away over an extra 500 baht or even an extra 1,000 baht? As long as I don't do it every day I would rather enjoy the experience and capture the memories than go off in search of second best for the night. I don't have many regrets from my Thai holidays, but of those, most are for hesitating rather than grabbing the opportunities that present themselves. Fortunately Toy Boys is full of little opportunities LOL I wholeheartedly agree. Better to grab those little opportunities! I went to Toyboys this last week when it wasn't so busy with lots of eager boys both inside and outside at 9:30pm. I saw a stunning Cambodian boy who was new to the scene and called him over for a drink. After some chitchat and seeing my visible hesitation, he offered to go back with me for LT at 2000 baht. Stupidly, I told him I wanted to see the 10:30pm show at BoyzBoyzBoyz and would come back later. After enduring the straight Chinese boy club that BoyzBoyzBoyz has become (call me nostalgic but I miss the days when Boyztown bars were gay bars, and I didn't have to watch middle-aged Chinese husbands take off their shirts to impress their wives), I rushed back to Toyboys to find my handsome guy. Well sure enough, Toyboys was packed (with more Chinese customers) and he was gone.
vinapu Posted July 8, 2017 Posted July 8, 2017 It's quite rare that a moneyboy in Thailand will flat out refuse a customer and loose money, but I have heard about it happening. Don't get down about it. not necessarily loose money, possibly another , more lucrative customer comes along. I had it in Tawan, well publicized in my trip report from Jun 2015. I did not get down about it because I had handy substitute and on the next trip I even offed 'offending' boy to a mixed impression / great performer but rushing rushing things / so it looks meat market works both ways
vinapu Posted July 8, 2017 Posted July 8, 2017 Cool ok. I was just waking up haha. and not that you had much sleep judging by your recent reports
vinapu Posted July 8, 2017 Posted July 8, 2017 he offered to go back with me for LT at 2000 baht. Stupidly, I told him I wanted to see the 10:30pm show at BoyzBoyzBoyz and would come back later....... .......... Well sure enough, Toyboys was packed and he was gone. what I did in such a cases was to pay off fee and tell boy I will pick him up at such and such time and slip him 100 baht so he can buy something to eat or tell him we will have a dinner before going home. At least now we know LT can be had at ToyBoys for 2000. JimmyJoe 1
Guest ronnie4you Posted July 9, 2017 Posted July 9, 2017 I have made the same mistake that Serendeputy made. You learn to grab the guy when you can and worry about the details later. I would have taken him to Boyzboyzboyz with me. On the other hand, perhaps Serendeputy had a little hesitation and was hoping to find someone else.
Guest FASAJIP Posted July 9, 2017 Posted July 9, 2017 Many years in Pattaya (I'm living Korat), and in Pattaya Land. Often in Toy Boys, Cupidol, or former Funny Boys...Always nice boys for full night. Always 2000 and never had problem... My first visite at Toy Boys, off was 200, and beer 120 !!! Happy times !
Guest samebb Posted July 9, 2017 Posted July 9, 2017 and not that you had much sleep judging by your recent reports You couldn't be more right
vinapu Posted July 9, 2017 Posted July 9, 2017 I would have taken him to Boyzboyzboyz with me. I prefer my system of picking up boy later to dragging him through the bars as bar boys rarely are interested in being in another bar so not much fun for them and more expenses / extra drink / and less freedom for you. My first visit at Toy Boys, off was 200, and beer 120 !!! Happy times ! depends on exchange rate You couldn't be more right will sleep next week when I am back in Bangkok! I like that attitude, when flying to Thailand I know I'm not doing that in order to have a good sleep
Travellerdave Posted July 9, 2017 Posted July 9, 2017 Yes if i latch onto a cute boy relatively early (say before 11 pm) I avoid taking him from the bar then but instead pay the off fee and return later. There is not much point in taking them back to your gay area hotel much before 1 am due to the noise from the surrounding bars. I cannot concentrate on sex when some drunken farangs rendering of "I did it my way " booms through the windows and walls. Taking them to BBB would be rather expensive and I don't enjoy the place much these days. After collecting them from the bar the best would be to have a meal together at a restaurant or with street food in the room. The last option could increase the tip if he deserved it. Shonen, vinapu and a447a 3
Shonen Posted July 10, 2017 Posted July 10, 2017 Just last week I went into my local Home Goods store. Walking around I saw a beautiful leather chair for $800. Not really cheap for Home Goods but I knew it would look great under my track lighting. Rather than making an impulse decision I decided to wait a day and think it over, visualize it in my condo. So next day, same time I go back and it's still there. I go look at it and while admiring it a women walks by and stops, she says it's so nice and sits in it. Well I'm thinking for the last day someone could have bought this chair yet no one did, and now this lady might just buy it right now! Should I tell her I'm buying it? I was still debating. So I try to talk her out of it, pointing out some flaws, also it could be bought online easy enough. I decide to walk away and find a worker there to discuss if they can deliver it for me. Of course they can " just go up front and pay for it and fill out paperwork. Well up front in the cashier line I get a tap on the back, it's the lady and she so sorry but she bought the chair, even though she knew I wanted it. And to add insult I see the chair being wheeled to the front door. Oh well, I told her I should have bought it right away and I hope she enjoys it. My head was bowed, it was like finding out my son wasn't really mine and I had to turn him over to his birth mother. I swore that would never happen again and if I saw something I really wanted I'd just pull the trigger. The next day I go back to see if they had anything new. To my surprise the leather chair of my dreams is back where it was, ha ha. Why was it there? Did it not fit in her car? Did she want it because I did? Then I started thinking what might be wrong with this chair. Maybe I shouldn't buy it now. The psychology of it all,lol. Ok, I bought the damn thing! And it looks good but I don't really use it much. Oh gosh, I guess you substitute a go go boy in his underwear in place of the chair, but if you see a boy you like, don't hesitate! rollingstone, Travellerdave, Aux1010 and 1 other 4
rollingstone Posted July 10, 2017 Posted July 10, 2017 Oh gosh, I guess you substitute a go go boy in his underwear in place of the chair, but if you see a boy you like, don't hesitate! I guess this part makes the post somehow 'gay thailand'? lol.
Travellerdave Posted July 11, 2017 Posted July 11, 2017 One negative factor with the pay off and return later is the risk that when you return for the boy you find him sat with a customer who is examining the "goods". This happened to me during my last trip at Cupidol when "my boy" took quite a while to disengage and go and get dressed, join me and leave, with hostile looks coming from the disappointed guy who thought he had a boyfriend for the night.
Boy69 Posted July 11, 2017 Posted July 11, 2017 It's inevitable if you are paying off and return later the boy will try to earn some tips from other clients till you come back,I personally never did it and not going to do it in the near future.
a447a Posted July 11, 2017 Posted July 11, 2017 I've booked lots of guys over the years as earlier in my sexcapades I returned many times to a bar, only to find the guy I was thinking of offing sitting with another customer or already gone. I always tell the boy to make good use of his time whilst waiting for me but do not get drunk. These days I also tell them not to cum for another customer. One of my favourite regulars from a number of years ago - Jack - worked at Eros. One night I came back for him and saw him sitting with a customer. He came over and said he'd come and sit with me but I told him to see if he could maybe get another drink out of the customer. Also, if he spent longer with the him he might get a bigger tip. Meanwhile, I'd enjoy the company of the other boys. I saw the customer mauling Jack, giving his cock a real workout. I could see they were discussing something. Suddenly, Jack came over and asked me if it would be ok if the customer wanked him. "He want to see me cum." The look on my face told him "no." "But I can cum for you, too. No probrem. Can cum many times." That's true, but still, the answer was a definite no. I was in a quandary now, as Jack had missed out on a big tip. But I ended up just giving him the money he would have earned from a chuck -wow. Problem solved. And we were both happy. Shame about the customer. So that is something you have to keep in mind if you book a guy for later. In your absence he might go with another customer. Or maybe two. Or he might cum in the bar for a customer. So he may not perform as expected back in the hotel. Jack was nice enough to at least ask my permission and I appreciated that. reader 1
spoon Posted July 11, 2017 Posted July 11, 2017 Jack definitely have good business sense to keep his regular happy. Its always better to have repeat custormer vs new customers. Which sucks for newbie like me lol
vinapu Posted July 11, 2017 Posted July 11, 2017 My line of thinking is , if I booked boy to pick him up later he is free to do whatever until pick up time but if I show in the bar he should excuse his client and come to sit down with me , exactly like Jack did
Popular Post ChristianPFC Posted July 13, 2017 Popular Post Posted July 13, 2017 I disapprove of reserving a boy and leaving him on stage (the bar's fault; if the boy gets dressed and waits inside or outside so I clearly see he is not available, that's fine for me). Travellerdave One negative factor with the pay off and return later is the risk that when you return for the boy you find him sat with a customer who is examining the "goods". This happened to me during my last trip at Cupidol when "my boy" took quite a while to disengage and go and get dressed, join me and leave, with hostile looks coming from the disappointed guy who thought he had a boyfriend for the night. One of my favourite regulars from a number of years ago - Jack - worked at Eros. One night I came back for him and saw him sitting with a customer. He came over and said he'd come and sit with me but I told him to see if he could maybe get another drink out of the customer. Also, if he spent longer with the him he might get a bigger tip. Meanwhile, I'd enjoy the company of the other boys. I dislike all of this. If you want a boy, pay the off fee and take him out. When I go to a bar, I expect, I demand, to see only available boys, not boys who don't go at all or boys who would go with me be are currently reserved for others. Living in Thailand, I could come back another day to get the reserved boy, but that's a subject I'm very sensitive to: go fuck yourself, I won't be back! The story by Numazu with MonBoy having another customer before him, and hurrying to get back, fits in here as well. If a boy tells me he has something else to before or after me and we have only xx minutes time, then I think "CUT!" and tell him we will meet another day when he has time for me and can focus all his energy on pleasing me and not thinking about other business. vinapu, aussie_, bobsaigon and 2 others 5
vinapu Posted July 13, 2017 Posted July 13, 2017 I disapprove of reserving a boy and leaving him on stage (the bar's fault; if the boy gets dressed and waits inside or outside so I clearly see he is not available, that's fine for me). I dislike all of this. If you want a boy, pay the off fee and take him out. What if I want boy but just not right now because I'm bar hopping with another forum member ChristianPFC? I don't want drag him with us for this or that reason so he must wait for me to pick him up. Sure he can dress and wait outside or even be directed to come to my hotel but on humanitarian grounds I don't mind if he stays in bar , being eye candy for others and perhaps earns tip or two from other patrons. But I expect him to be there ready to go when I return to pick him up. It's why MonBoy would not have a chance with me , but judging by numazu's narrative I would be loser by being so strict with my rules so sometimes it pays to be flexible. I like Jupiter system where boys who are booked or not available for an off given night don't sport number tags but still parade in their barely covered glory for all to enjoy.
Boy69 Posted July 13, 2017 Posted July 13, 2017 I tend to agree with ChristianPFC ,If you offed a boy take him with you ! I don't see any wrong if a boy sits with me with other friends or escort me to other places before going to my hotel ,I don't treat boys as fuck machines just for short sex . colmx 1
vinapu Posted July 13, 2017 Posted July 13, 2017 I don't see any wrong if a boy sits with me with other friends or escort me to other places before going to my hotel Do you think he enjoys being silent witness to conversation you have with your friends in language he doesn't know or barely speaks ? Or even if he understands , subject of conversation may be one he is not interested in , doesn't have any knowledge of or even worse yours and your friends sexcapades. One can see such scenes in bars on daily basis, farangs in lively conversation and beside boy bored to death It's exactly out of respect for boy I'd not drag him with me and my friends. Chances go-go boy likes show in another go-go bar are minimal too so he won't be happy and you need to pay for his drink , better to give him that 300-400 baht and invite to make grand tour of Patpong market in meantime ( an idea one of my boys actually boldly suggested ) a447a, llz, ChristianPFC and 1 other 4
a447a Posted July 13, 2017 Posted July 13, 2017 "I dislike all of this. If you want a boy, pay the off fee and take him out." Well, it worked for Jack and it worked for me. Jack always told the customer he couldn't go with them. If I had taken him out of the bar then the customer he was sitting with would have still missed out. Besides, not every customer offs a boy, especially at Eros. As I said, Jack was a regular - I offed him every night over the duration of each holiday spent in Pattaya over a number of years. Offing him early would have left me in a quandary as to what to do before going back to the hotel. Neither of us drink so bar-hopping was off the schedule. By the time I'd arrived at the bar to pay the off fee, he'd already eaten. So he was happy to work and earn some extra cash; better than sitting in the room watching TV and definitely better than him accompanying me to Goodboys. We watched TV and chatted after sex. The customers still were able to enjoy the hands -on experience with him ; that's basically what Eros is all about. Having said that, I'd be totally pissed off if I sat with a boy and bought him drinks, only to be told later that he was already taken. I get that. But as I said, Jack let the customers know beforehand.
ChristianPFC Posted July 13, 2017 Posted July 13, 2017 I like Jupiter system where boys who are booked or not available for an off given night don't sport number tags but still parade in their barely covered glory for all to enjoy. That would work for me. Having said that, I'd be totally pissed off if I sat with a boy and bought him drinks, only to be told later that he was already taken. I get that. That's what I mean. As for parading the boy around, indeed there is nothing to be gained, the boy will be bored, and buying drinks for him in other bars costs money that is just wasted. Putting the booked boy on stage without number seems the best solution. Nowadays with my bedtime in when in Pattaya rather before 1 am than after 1 am, my offs tend to be earlier. My last off was 20:30, and compared to offing at boy at midnight, I don't have to worry that the boy has his mind more on joining his friends after work and squandering the tip. vinapu 1
Popular Post colmx Posted July 13, 2017 Popular Post Posted July 13, 2017 Off the boy, bring them out, talk to them, make small talk and get to know them, flirt with them, if you are with a farang friend make an effort to all chat together and find mutually interesting topics to talk about. You will be rewarded with sex two three times as good as the "booked Prostitute" waiting for their next customer for sex santosh108, Jhoony, a447a and 3 others 6
steveboy Posted July 14, 2017 Posted July 14, 2017 Right, in Steve's case, who could blame the boy. Just out of curiosity, steveboy, is there a chance that you will bring some homemade filtered water along to Thailand and offer it to your boy? LOL! tt seems that some folks here are envious that a senior gets to enjoy the Thai boys without having to spend one baht on off fees, tips. But I will try it nonetheless next time I am in BKK, and then it will be very helpful the good information about money boy markets here. Then I will be smart in selecting the best Thai boy value, like I am smart now selecting the best fresh produce in the food store. So please keep me informed
