Bangkok Trip Report: To Butterfly or not to Butterfly Part 2 – The Devil and the Angel

[numazu]

Numazu ....You sure have a lot of time on your hands to blog so much....way toooo long a read each day...but many like it..I don't need to read every little minor detail of your day.

 

Just a quick reply. denny59 said something similar earlier in this post (quoted above), but it was when the thread was still all about Thailand. I don't think denny59 has a problem with the topic being about Brazil. I think he has a problem with my style of writing.  Which is fine, my posts are not for everyone.

[denny59]

Numazu....I apologize .....I was in a bad mood,,and just wrote something dumb....without really thinking....Your posts are of interest to many readers in this site and am sure they all enjoy it..I will read more of what you post in the future ...I will learn things...Tks...

[worldatlarge]

There is something to say about Rio de Janeiro; I think they spray something in the air, some hormones to make you horny must be it!!! The one time I visited, I was horny all the time and libido was high during the 4 days there!! Quite amazing. Would have to try it again!! The place "smell" sex!!

[vinapu]

 I don't think denny59 has a problem with the topic being about Brazil. I think he has a problem with my style of writing.  Which is fine, my posts are not for everyone.

very dignified response

 

Denny59 can be also commended for apologizing.

 

While it's obvious not all  posts are for everybody,  posters should realize that  trip reports require some effort writing and negative comments of sort above should be avoided as it can be very discouraging. 

 

so all I'd be asking numazu is to keep posting and Denny59 to keep reading every second paragraph of his posts until he gets used to the music.

[numazu]

BONUS POST 5: Dos Males o Menos

 

When in Thailand, the process of hiring a boy and taking him out of his boy bar is called “offing”. There are two types of offs.  An off is “short-time” if you take the boy out between 15 minutes to 3 hours, usually with just one sex event within that time. Afterwhich the boy goes home, or goes back to his bar if it early enough (to get more customers). The off is called “long-time” if the hire goes over the mythical 3 hour mark, usually with the boy staying over to sleep with you, and may or may not feature an extra sex event or two, usually in the morning when you and/or him has morning wood.

 

The Thai bar boys operate on a flat-rate (similar to Brazil) and not an hourly rate like in the West, so you usually agree on a rate before the off. And oddly, the long-time rate is not a multiple of the short-time rate. I’ve had short-time rates at $40 lasting an hour. And I’ve had long-time rates lasting for 24 hours only paying $75. It depends on the john, the boy, the circumstance, and maybe how nice your hotel room is (usually, if they prefer your bed over their own for the night).

 

So essentially, I initially was only “short-timing” Gabriel at the sauna, with our 20 minutes or so tryst. Then, mid-off, I decided to “long-time” him, which entailed me taking him out of the sauna. There was no “off” fee for him, or the fee to take him out, like in most Thailand gogo bars, so I guess that is advantage Brazil.  But there was still the matter what was his “long-time” fee was, in addition to the 200 reais I already gave him earlier. Such things I did not know, and the BoyToy forums are a little vague about what clients pay their companions when outside the confines of the sauna.

 

But there are more urgent matters right now, as I peel off his now familiar speedo off of him. His huge cock, now super hard and pointing upwards, was a treat I just had to indulge on. I sit up to put it in my mouth. It won’t all fit in, but I try anyway. Once I was satisfied, I migrate down to his beautiful ass.  It still tasted as good as it was in the sauna, but since I was not on a bed that a thousand client-customer pairs have defiled throughout the years, in a room that has seen so much action and filth, and I was instead in the confines of my own (albeit temporary) comfortable apartment, I was able to spread my wings a little bit wider. And that meant spreading his legs a little bit wider too as well, as I ate him out for a while. His moans of pleasure, and his outstretched hand guiding my head to eat him harder and to navigate me to where he wanted me to focus, all added to the experience.

 

After a while he knew what was coming next. He leaves the bed and disappears to the living room, and returns with a condom, lube pack, and his trusty tube of lidocaine. I take the condom, unwrap it and put it on my cock. He takes both lidocaine and lube up his ass, and gives me the lube packet to oil up my thing. He immediately gets on all fours. I oblige and fuck him like this. After a while I sit down and lean my body on our bed’s headboard. He treats this as his next position, as he stands up and then squats down to take my cock. It was probably weird seeing the two of us like this, because he was the bigger and longer pf us two, and I was the smaller and slighter, but the up-close sight of his heaving body and bulging muscles making this position work for me, was all it took for me to cum in the condom. Still with my cock in him, he jacks himself off. I ever so slightly open my mouth and he sits up to cum in my mouth. Despite the relative complexity of our physical exertions, we definitely did not have to speak the same language to be in-sync sexually. He was a find.

 

My one gripe about this apartment is that the shower is not that big, so we had to take turns in taking showers. He wanted me to go first, MISTAKE #3: so I go to the bathroom and shut the door and take a luxurious shower. Mid-shower Gabriel goes in with a toothbrush and starts brushing his teeth while I was there. I finish, towel dry, and then it was Gabriel’s turn to shower, and my turn to brush my teeth. I leave the bathroom and shut the door and look for my boxer briefs. It did not occur to me then that the time I left Gabriel out there alone, he could have just robbed me and left. He didn’t.

 

While waiting for him to finish I check my phone in the living room. Lots of messages to answer. After some time I see Gabriel emerge from the bedroom, with my 12” iPad Pro in hand. “Posso?” he asks. “Sim,” I say. But of course, MISTAKE #4: all my stuff, including expensive electronics, is just ripe for the picking for Gabriel. But here he was, asking permission to use the iPad Pro. I unlock the device with my thumb, and out pops out YouTube, with the music video of the “Vai Malandra” by Anitta, was playing mid-song:

 

 

Vai Malandra pretty much has defined my whole stay here in Brazil. This song was release just last December 18, right in the middle of my stay in Sao Paulo. That day I was with my Paulista friend who was a hairdresser, and he was the one who put the song in my YouTube. Later that day it was as if the whole city was exploding with discovery of that song. You could hear it everywhere. And I watched the video transfixed with all the images.  There was a lot of things going on in the video, but the best things about it was it shot in the Vidigal favela in Rio. And in particular, the sequence wherein Anitta cavorts with two blonde cariocas, stood out for me:

 

 

Gabriel played the video and was screaming by the end of this sequence. He clearly wanted me to see this sequence because of the presence of the two bleach blonde cariocas, who kind of looked like him. This shot of the two boys from the back made me realize how much Gabriel looked like them from this angle, gold necklace, tan skin, and everything else (and if the back was more muscular).:

 

 

The boys were going to jump on this makeshift pool, on a bed of a truck:

 

 

With Anitta, just vamping at the side:

 

 

I took my phone and typed in for Gabriel: “You could star in this music video. You look like the blonde boys.”  He nods and smiles profusely and flexes a bicep and says “Sim! Mais musculoso!” Indeed. He was mais musculoso than the two boys in the video. And mais lindo. And mais carinhoso. And most likely mais everything else.

 

One last thing from this video, a shot of one of the hunks. If you ever have to imagine what Gabriel looks like, he may look like this (with way more muscle):

 

 

My favorite part, when he shows his tongue:

 

 

The full video, in case you can stand Brazilian pop music:

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDhptBT_-VI

 

Vai Malandra has followed me from the streets of Sao Paulo, to the malls of Natal, to the nightclubs in Salvador, and now here, in my Ipanema apartment, with my carioca boyfriend for the night, watching it in my iPad Pro. Gabriel talked more about the Vidigal favela, and favelas in general. He says that Vidigal is going through some gentrification, and he googled some photos of the Alto Vidigal Bar and lounge as proof. The bar had some fantastic views of Rio. He told me we should go there sometime.  Sigh.  Someday.

 

We talk a little bit about a bunch of other things. About my life in the USA. About my trip in Brazil.  He tells me about why he is a garoto (the usual tale of poverty and supporting the mother and siblings). He shows me photos of his family. I show him photos of my vacation in Brazil. I showed my whole iPhone photo roll, which contained some risqué photos of the boys I’ve met along the way, and my BF too.  He looks at them with some curiosity, and then google translates this: “Sometime, maybe we can get a boy and fuck him together.” I think I am in love.

 

After a few more topics of discussion we decide to go to bed. I told him that the alarm was set at 6 AM because I had a flight to catch. We both sleep in our underwear. He wants to be big spoon, so we cuddle. All the activity today must have gotten to me, because I sleep all the way through and get awoken by the alarm.

 

I suddenly figure out where I was and who I was with. I see Gabriel still fast asleep, his tight body and tan skin glistening. I go to the bathroom to pee. And then after I look around and see that everything is still intact. MISTAKE #5:  I find my passport on the table just there ripe for the picking. The AirBNB unit did not have a safe so if Gabriel were to steal it I would be SOL on my flight back to the US today. I figure that if Gabriel was bad, he would have done something by now. I’ve given him so many chances to rob or kill me. I even remember him offering gum after dinner and I just popped it in my mouth. So many mistakes tonight.

 

I hear the toilet flush. I guess Gabriel was up. He emerged and went over to hug and kiss me. “Tudo bem?” he asks. Yes, everything was fine. My time with him was up. I have stretched my time with him as much as I could. I had to pack for my flight. I had to meet up with the AirBNB guy at 9:30 AM. I had to do a million things.

 

But of course, the most important thing I had to do is pay him for the extra time he spent with me. I had no clue what 11 extra hours of time is worth for him. I take out my wallet and fish out 4 50 reais bill.  I guess $62 would be enough, in addition of course to his other 200 in the sauna? I had no idea. He pocketed the money without question. I felt bad. Was it too little? I figure I would do the next best thing. I told him I would get him an Uber, so he does not have to wrestle with subways and busses. I hand him my phone and he types in his address. 15 minutes later we get a bite from Uber. 8 minutes away.

 

I give him a big hug. I type in a few goodbye phrases, and he bids me a nice flight, and thanked me for the Uber. 3 minutes away. I kiss him, he kisses back. I go with him to the lobby to bid him goodbye. We get to the gate and the car was there. He gets in and closes the door. He waves one last time before the car took him away. 40 minutes later, this was the fare:

 

 

It was reasonable ($22), considering the distance. 30 minutes later, as promised, he sends me a video of him skateboarding. It was impressive. 3 weeks later, he would send me photos of him, his brother, and his friends in bathing suits ready to go to the beach. I recognize some of his friends from the sauna. 5 weeks later he sends me 2 photos of his birthday celebration. Turning 23 looks good on him. And now, 7 weeks later, I agree to have him be my travel companion for part of my next Brazil trip in April, which coincides with my birthday. I will spend 3 nights in Sao Paulo and 3 nights in Porto Alegre with him, paying him a flat rate of 300 reais a day, except on my birthday, which he says he is free for me, as a birthday present. And to sweeten the pot, he says this:

 

 

He will go with me to the sauna and we can fuck boys together. I guess we have a deal.

 

I am starting to like this country.

[Boy69]

Great report Namzu as usual!

I am glade that all your suspicious about the boy and the "mistakes" you made were wrong and the boy turned to be lovely and fun to be with.

[paulsf]

Sauna boys are a low security risk, if they do anything you can report it to the owner and they don’t find work anywhere. They can’t afford trouble. Dealing with boys off the Apps, you definitely need to be more cautious.

[spoon]

I wouldve done those mistakes myself numazu, especially if i like the boy very much, and he gained my trust. No mention of money after the short time is already a positive for me lol.

[ggobkk]

Thanks...looking forward to our next adventure(s)

[JackR]

Great report Numazu. I'm dying to go to Brazil now! Fortunately my next trip to Thailand is only 2 weeks away - this will have to sate me lol

[Nasherich]

Beautifully written report - I really enjoyed reading it and it's given me some inspiration to follow in your footsteps!

[biguyby]

Thank you Numazu for you excellent, interesting and informative report

[numazu]

Thanks for the very kind words guys. I must admit I was a bundle of nerves the whole time this was happening. Brazil is still a fairly new country to me, and I've had company (more or less) all throughout my stay there, and this was the one day I had alone. There were so many opportunities that Gabriel could have taken advantage of me, but I guess I chose wisely and he didn't. To tell you the truth if he stole from me I probably would not have planned to go back to Brazil, but now I just booked my flights for an April trip. If this was last year the vacation time would have been devoted to Thailand, but I am eager to see what Brazil has to offer me. I'll go back to Thailand soon enough (perhaps June).

 

As other members know, I was in Thailand two weeks ago. I am unsure if I should write a trip report for the few days I was there.

[ggobkk]

 

 

As other members know, I was in Thailand two weeks ago. I am unsure if I should write a trip report for the few days I was there.

 

Speaking only for myself, go ahead and write up a Thailand report...

 

Speaking, I suspect, for many others who read the posts...don't deprive us of your adventures.

[vinapu]

 

. I am unsure if I should write a trip report for the few days I was there.

you may be unsure but rest assured , many are sure that you should !

[numazu]

Sorry, I've been busy, so the trip report, while it has been written, is still unposted. Will try to post soon.

 

Meanwhile, if you're looking for a new report from me, I posted something on Colombia at https://www.boytoy.com/forums/topic/29257-some-notes-on-bogota/

 

I thought about cross posting it here but there are some risqué photos on there so I decided not to.

 

Also, anyone coming in June for the giant circuit party in Pattaya? If so, PM me!

[vinapu]

thank you for the link , great report on Bogota, informative and entertaining, particularly last part , LOL

[ggobkk]

Thanks