Bangkok Trip Report: To Butterfly or not to Butterfly Part 2 – The Devil and the Angel

[numazu]

YES

I can just see Steveboy riding his White Horse down Surawong.

To free BurBoy from the clutches of Numazu!

 

Of course BurBoy does not want to be Saved...

 

OMG GWMinUS this is the best reply ever. I love you!

 

OHHHHH

So you also have some Tales of the Philippines...

Again, WAITING WAITING WAITING...

I think you did well to fly on Thai, but they are much more expensive.

I am flying on PAL from MNL to BKK.

Departing at 09:45 and arriving at 12:05.

Here's hoping all goes as planned.

With the unrest on Mindanao and now the strange Incident at Resorts World Casino, I do not know...

INGAT!!

 

Well yes I have some tales to tell from the Philippines. I definitely had a lot of fun while I was there, both with sex and just enjoying the country. I think my friend samebb said it best, that I can get away with more when I visit Thailand, or the Philippines. I can blend in for the most part, with my Generic Asian looks. The sex tourism in the Philippines is just paltry compared to Thailand, but there is enough free to go around as well. Its just a different experience, not better or worse than Thailand.

 

Thai Airways enables me to get my miles into my United account. So does EVA Air, which is my airline of choice for US to Asia trips.

 

The current unrest in the Philippines is pretty troubling for sure, but I didn't feel it while I was there. Are you currently based in the Philippines?

 

For me, a blog doesnt have to be updated as frequent, but serves as a safekeep of all your adventure writings in one place for easy access. It will also void of all the rules and regulations in some of the forums that u dont like or agree.

 

It is true that I can put anything I wanted in my own personal blog. Currently tho I am fine with posting here for now. The readership here (for the most part) seem pretty chill and enjoying the reports. And i can just disappear for a few months, not worrying about how my blog has been doing, because of the built in readership and (not as much now as before) steady set of contributors.

 

Numazu, I’m so happy and very pleasantly surprised to see that you have resumed your trip reports. Your experiences, so eloquently and thoughtfully reported are always enjoyable to read and so full of useful information for the newbie to Thailand that I am. I look forward to every installment.

 

Thank you.

 

And do report on Mexico!

 

This is why I take time to go through a lot of detail in most aspects of my trip, is for newbies like you. I talk not just about the boys and the gogo bars, but also my experience in the airports, taxis, food, and hotels. I have gotten some good feedback, as well as more questions, about these other peripheral activities, so as long as it is useful information, I'll write about it.

 

No idea how you find the time to both have this experiences and write them up too.  Nicely done!

 

Its not hard writing these up, and the experiences are still so vivid and memorable in my head. The fun of writing about them again is I relive my experiences all over again, perhaps identify some mistakes I've committed along the way, and be able to learn from them and correct them in future trips. As for having the time to post, I do spend a lot of time at airports, and plane rides, so thats where I get most of the writing done.

 

Numazu,I do enjoy your thread it's like reading a novel!Great stuff !

 

Unfortunately, this has turned out to be as long as a novel too. Hope everyone is patient with reading it.

 

Cant wait for the anticipated 3 boys off 

 

LOL. Is it 3 boys? Is it 2? Is it 4? Maybe its no boys!

 

Excellent, numazu... you're not only back, but back in top form indeed! 

 

Thanks Alexx. As you will find out, in the trip, I am also in my bottom form as well LOL.

[steveboy]

LOL. Is it 3 boys? Is it 2? Is it 4? Maybe its no boys!

 

His creative mind is checking out his audience to see how he will continue his novel. 

[numazu]

Day 1.3: Tonight, Soi 4 > Soi Twilight

 

While soaking in the tub I fire up my Thai phone and open the four gay apps I had on there specifically for Thailand: Grindr, PlantRomeo, Jackd and Hornet. I’m pretty sure that I will not have time to entertain any apps boys but you never know. After my apps have been open a while, I get the usual money boy pleas, and even get into a hot and heavy chat with a very pretty boy who was pushing for short time at 1200 baht. I was tempted, but I was really saving my spunk for a (or three) Jupiter gogo.

 

There was one young cute boy with near-perfect English that caught my eye. He was 22, a student, cute compact body, and was sweet on the chat. It turns steamy and we exchanged pics. He had a nice cock and an even nicer ass. I had to make sure: I asked him if he was a money boy. You have to ask of course. He said he wasn’t and was just a student who wanted to make friends, he said. He was free to meet tonight. Again, I was tempted but really, why go all the way to Thailand if you just sample free boys? I can get that at home.

 

I get a LINE from my friend, the controversial forum member samebb, who I met last January with BurBoy and anddy, another member. He is a Bangkok resident, and goes to Twilight often, so he was able to give me the scoop on some boys that he thought I would be interested in offing. They were boys who were friends with a boy he knew well, so I was able to get photos and descriptions of the boys in advance of my trip. This was a first for me. I normally just go to a bar and pick a boy, feel him out in a course of an hour over a drink, and if I follow my instincts, I may or may not take him home.

 

Instead, I set my eyes on two boys, both boys from the new Jupiter bar (thread here). From what I hear, the two boys were also pretty new to Jupiter, and gogo bar life. They were also both Myanmar boys. Having had an affinity with Myanmar, and its boys, lately (via BurBoy and my recent trip), I felt like this was a perfect fit. I can dazzle them (lol) with my minimal Myanmar knowledge, and show them my touristic photos of Yangon, Mandalay and Bagan. samebb was even able to forward me a video of one of the boys dancing shirtless, with other boys, and without a care in the world. I was hooked. I had to have him.

 

Also, last Songkran trip, when Mark311088, his friend, samebb and paulsf, BurBoy and I all went to (what was then) old Jupiter, Mark311088 and I fell in lust over this tall, muscular, Korean-looking boy who we asked to sit with us as we assessed if he was going to be a good off or not.  When he did sit down with us, we didn’t care what was coming out of his mouth. He was gorgeous! He was almost offed by either Mark311088 or his friend. Sadly, he was offed by another customer before they could get a chance with him that night. So his gorgeousness has stayed in my (and Mark311088’s) head even a month later from that night, so I was eager to see if I could off him. And even if he was a dead fish in bed, I could just stare at his gorgeousness all night.

 

So that makes three boys that I knew I wanted to off, even before stepping onto Bangkok soil. Again, this is unorthodoxed for me, but I was eager to know if my expectations matched, or even exceeded reality. I answer samebb on LINE and made a plan to meet at 7:30 PM at Telephone bar on Silom Soi 4. Since new Jupiter was in Soi 4, it would be a chance share some drinks with samebb to catch up, before both of us stumbling into new Jupiter.

 

So I raise myself from the tub, take a quick shower, and then put on my usual FarangWear™ of a 100 baht t-shirt and shorts from Chatuchak Market. I take my small compact umbrella with me because samebb has warned me about recent rain. I leave the hotel and head over to Soi 4. As I walk on Silom Rd, a familiar swell of excitement and anticipation formed in my tummy and spread all over my body. This was it, I am here again. I was just here 4 weeks prior, but every visit here always felt like the first time.

 

I get to Soi 4, which at 7:30 PM was still half empty. I see samebb with his date, let’s call him The Lion. The Lion was a 19-year-old Thai motorbike taxi driver in Pattaya, who also took in male customers once in a while. samebb was just in Pattaya, and decided to bring The Lion along, since The Lion wanted to go to Bangkok to visit some family. The Lion looked younger than 19, so after shaking his hand, I immediately asked for ID. samebb laughed at my forwardness, but The Lion was more than happy to prove his age.

 

I sat down next to The Lion so I can both have a view of the street and have a good conversation with samebb, who was facing The Lion. I saw that both have ordered giant glasses of beer already, so I call on the waiter and order my usual first drink of the night when I am in Soi 4: the espresso martini. I have talked about this drink before: it is a regular martini made with coffee, and had a few coffee beans floating on top as garnish. If I knew I was in for a long night, this was the perfect drink to start it. I take one sip and was immediately woken up.

 

samebb and I catch up with our lives. I tell him about my plans for the night. He tells me he was just along for the ride. He said it will be interesting to see me in action in real life, instead of just reading about it. I told him there was nothing interesting about seeing me drool over hot guys all night. He tells me about his Pattaya trip (mixed results), the current low season and the weather. I often wonder how I would fare if I lived here. Would I still be as excited every time I went to Silom? samebb is ambivalent to the question. It is hard to get excited about Silom if you were there everyday, but then again looking at hot boys is always exciting.

 

I noticed that The Lion was just sitting there silent. I always think that it is awkward for a local boy to just sit there, while two farang just yammer away. I turn to him and ask him some questions about him. With a few sentences I gauge his English proficiency and was able to figure out what speaking cadence worked with him. I was impressed by his English proficiency. I’ve met some older Thai guys who didn’t have half his English skills. He apologized for his bad English. I told him he did not have anything to worry about. I could understand him completely.

 

I became the reverse money boy, asking this money boy pretty standard questions instead of the other way around. I ask him about where he came from, his current line of work, if he liked it. I asked him what his business was in Bangkok, his family, and love life.  He said he had a boyfriend in Pattaya. I asked him if he had a photo of him. He said “of course!” but did not want to show it to samebb and I. I let it go the first time but insisted on seeing it throughout the evening. Finally he relents, showing me the photo. The boyfriend was cute, and my type actually. I tell him he was lucky to find such a catch. He smiles widely. He had a killer smile.

 

I’ve always said this. The sex and the perfect bodies and the handsome faces are amazing and all that, but for me, the main allure of Thailand, and all the other countries I am lucky to visit in my little insignificant life, are the stories of the people I meet, and the stories that those people tell me. People are generally interesting, and hearing about their stories are worth more than the thousands of dollars I’ve spent on airfare, the countless hours I’ve spent trapped in a silver flying tube, and the precious time I’ve diverted from my life back home. To me, this was Thailand, the people, their stories, their reasons for doing what they chose to become (money boy, waiter, expat), and what motivates them (help the family, escape cold winters, not enough sex back home).

 

And what is more interesting than their backstories are the stories they CHOOSE to tell you. After a while you can discern a pattern to what they share with you, and kind of guess what the ulterior motive is, if there was one. Maybe it’s a money boy telling us about his hard luck life, so that you sympathize enough to give him more money. With The Lion, I immediately felt that he was genuine, like I was talking to a friend. I heard about the usual story of poverty, but with a wish to do more with his life, instead of a story of having to support his family. I heard about his motorbike, not to solicit business from me, but as a source of pride of being able to buy one at such a young age. He wasn’t selling anything to me, but I bought it anyway.

 

samebb and I were having fun with The Lion just shooting the shit at Telephone. At around 8-9 PM I notice a steady stream of hot young boys making their way to the Soi and enter new Jupiter. samebb exaplains that this spot on Soi 4 was like Hot Male or Banana bar in Twilight, that it was a good spot to observe the working boys at the beginning of their work night at their bar. I notice some familiar faces, including the incomparable Mehkin (link), a former Tawan staple, and my last Jupiter off, MuscleBoy (link), with whom I had amazing carnal relations with last December.

 

The sight of the boys were fueling my lust already boiling beneath the surface. It was 9:15, and I ask samebb if he was ready to go into new Jupiter to pick up the three boys I wanted for the night. samebb says the immortal words “up to you,” and tells me I was the guest tonight, and it was one night of freedom so I might as well take advantage of it. I pay for all the drinks, telling samebb that this was my thanks for him for recommending the two boys I was lusting after at new Jupiter. He thanks me and we make our way to the club.

 

So next, Jupiter, new and improved!

[ggobkk]

Love the pacing of the reports.

 

It's understood that the boys in a club talk about their customers. And that's a benefit is you receive a good grade. Bad grade = shun-vile.

 

I've personally learned that the boys from, say Vietnam, talk cross club. Last visit, my regular Van learned that I'd offed another Viet, Nuguyen, from Screwboys. All was not lost as Van decided to put the three of us together.

 

Why do I mention this...well, Numazu is hinting that he has intent to dazzle some boys from Myanmar but keep BurBoy out of the picture. All I can say is good luck.

[GWMinUS]

HAHAHA

Very good advice from ggobkk

Word travels fast!!

[steveboy]

Why do I mention this...well, Numazu is hinting that he has intent to dazzle some boys from Myanmar but keep BurBoy out of the picture. All I can say is good luck.

 

After all the time, it is hard to imagine that BurBoy wouldn't know his friend in and out already.

He probably prefers to keep his eyes and ears shut.

[GWMinUS]

Well, here in the US we have seen how "Don't Ask Don't Let" was not good...

[steveboy]

Well, here in the US we have seen how "Don't Ask Don't Let" was not good...

 

Right, "don't ask don't tell" lost its significance since in the US gays are accepted in the military and society recognizes our rights.

 

Similarly, BurBoy should freely accept that his friend is affected with pathological promiscuity... or something like that.

[Creditisdue]

Why is steveboy so down on Numazu? I bet most of the men who log on here are here for the boys. Numazu has been kind enough to share his experiences with the boys. Steve just puts him down calling him pathologically promiscuous. To him that would describe more than half the people who log on here. Is it Jealousy?

[spoon]

He is a born troll. Dunno why scooby hasnt ban this guy yet. So many people have put him on ignore, i suggest u do the same

[Alexx]

Steve is just a bit special; maybe the filtered water he enjoys drinking at home has gone to his head. Nothing to worry about, quite harmless...

[Creditisdue]

Possibly harmless but also quite annoying. He is quite obsessed too. He has more replies posted on this thread than numazu. Didn't know that he is a known troll and been put on ignore by members. Numazu should just ignore him.

[steveboy]

Steve is just a bit special; maybe the filtered water he enjoys drinking at home has gone to his head. Nothing to worry about, quite harmless...

 

Thank you Alexx.  I don't think I'm anything special, and the filtered water is just H2O.  

Everybody should be assured that I am harmless.

 

 

He is a born troll. Dunno why scooby hasnt ban this guy yet. So many people have put him on ignore, i suggest u do the same

 

You use "troll" like someone who does not have anything bad to say about someone he does not like, but still wants to bash him for who knows what reason...  To call someone a "troll" is in itself an abject immoral attack.

 

 

Why is steveboy so down on Numazu? I bet most of the men who log on here are here for the boys. Numazu has been kind enough to share his experiences with the boys. Steve just puts him down calling him pathologically promiscuous. To him that would describe more than half the people who log on here. Is it Jealousy?

 

Oh... I'm no saint.  I like the boys too, and although I have paid for sex only a few times in my life, I am warming up to the idea of doing so and in my next trip to LOS I will indulge like the best.  I think that now in my 70s I can perfectly justify this

 

About Numazu,  I am not a moralist and in no way I condemn him.  He is promiscuous like most we are here in different degrees.  It must be in our genes.  I don't judge him but I DESCRIBE him.  There is an element of excess that stands out, although "pathological" may be a little strong.  He says he is 36 y.o. but his obsession with sex fits more a teenager, not an adult at an age where one is normally focused on work and career and eventually family and children (even gays we can have family and children, haha.)  If now he is so desperate to run around the globe in search of sex workers to pay,  what... what will he have left for the time he is twice his age like me?  I think there is time for everything, and to become a sex tourist is best for people who have done their duty, are retired with little or no responsibilities, with plenty of time and money to enjoy... like me!

 

But he should not change his lifestyle for me!  I enjoy his stories like all of you do, and he should definitely keep writing if this is what he likes.  And I should keep commenting like any member here is free to do.  

[Creditisdue]

You are right spoon. This is guy is a major troll. Ignoring now.

 

Hopefully this thread doesn't go off the rails like other threads this Stevie guy has polluted. I go to this thread for Numazu, not this guy.

[worldatlarge]

(Sorry for the digression Numazu but it needs to be answered)

 

-Your psychobabble, steveboy, is just a way to try to hide that you are moralizing

-You can't "DESCRIBE" someone you have not met

-I know why I want to bash and, without going as high as "troll", the reason is the majority of your posts are just nags, annoyances and bothers. If you were keeping to the thread of the threads (!) your "commenting" would then be "like any member here is free to do."

 

If you feel you need to answer me, please do so in a PM so that Numazu can get back to his report which we enjoy waaaayyy more.

 

Regards

[steveboy]

-Your psychobabble, steveboy, is just a way to try to hide that you are moralizing

-You can't "DESCRIBE" someone you have not met 

-I know why I want to bash and, without going as high as "troll", the reason is the majority of your posts are just nags, annoyances and bothers. If you were keeping to the thread of the threads (!) your "commenting" would then be "like any member here is free to do."

 

If you feel you need to answer me, please do so in a PM so that Numazu can get back to his report which we enjoy waaaayyy more.

 

You are too late for that.

 

If you cared so much about Numazu, in the first place you would have PM-d me this post with your psychobabbles I am answering now, so as to let him go back to his report.

 

Of course you can DESCRIBE someone you haven't met.

Classrooms are full of professors who DESCRIBE Napoleon, which none of them have ever met.

Churches are full of pastors who DESCRIBE Jesus Christ, whom no one has ever met.

 

At least you are sincere in that you want to bash me. If you find my posts nags, annoyances and bothers, which they are not intended to be, all you need to do is ignore them instead of being driven to hate. 

[PeterRS]

There is an element of excess that stands out, although "pathological" may be a little strong.  He says he is 36 y.o. but his obsession with sex fits more a teenager, not an adult at an age where one is normally focused on work and career and eventually family and children (even gays we can have family and children, haha.)  If now he is so desperate to run around the globe in search of sex workers to pay,  what... what will he have left for the time he is twice his age like me?  I think there is time for everything, and to become a sex tourist is best for people who have done their duty, are retired with little or no responsibilities, with plenty of time and money to enjoy... like me!

 

I reckon most people who believe they shuold ration their sexcapades until they reach Steve's venerable age are nuts! Life is short and I for one enjoyed a lot of sex at that age where and when I could find it even with a full-time job. Perhaps a straight marriage dulled your appetite, Steveboy. No offence intended.

[steveboy]

I reckon most people who believe they shuold ration their sexcapades until they reach Steve's venerable age are nuts! No offence intended Steve. Life is short and I for one found sex at that age where and when I could find it even with a full-time job

 

At that age you had a full-blown job.  Me too. And most of the people who are responsible have this too at 36 y.o.  And without being nuts we also ration the amount of food we eat.  Otherwise we end up morbidly obese or with bulimia. We ration the amount of alcohol we drink or else we end up alcoholics.  All these are not moral issues but PRACTICAL issues.  At that age I traveled the world as much or more than Numazu, not as a sex tourist but working for a multinational company in the oil industry. I had my sexcapades but I was not obsessed with them like I wasn't obsessed with food or booze.  My fascination with the guy is the time and effort he dedicates to his sexcapades and the writing about them. Doesn't he have a life... besides sex?  There is a long way between that and "rationing".  

[PeterRS]

At that age you had a full-blown job.

Misquote. I wrote "even with a full-time job". But that does not mean I worked 16 hours a day 7 days a week at that age. There was plenty of time to earn a living and plenty of time to enjoy other things in life wherever in the world I found myslef.

 

You seem to have a thing against numazu writing about his sexual exploits? Why? Im sure hed be happy to write about his daily eating habits and drinking habits if he thought these would be of any interest here. This happens to be a Board about gay life in Thailand and that includes a lot about sex and sexual activities. So it is totally understandable that he concentrates on the sex element much to the delight and gratitude of other readers - apart from one it seems.

 

So what if he writs about sex to the exclusion of much else? As a frequent traveller I am certain he has tons of time at airports, on planes, in taxis and so on where it is easy to jot down his exploits. Anyone with his sort of travel schedule can easily do that without its affecting his work and other parts of his life. Besides he reads like a natural writer who does not have to spend much time thinking first of what he wants to write.

 

To suggest that he might not have a life apart from sex is just plain dumb! Sorry!

[Guest]

Steveboy, your posts in this thread and others that are initiated by the OP are now off limits.  I don't know what you have against him but it is done.  A post in this thread and you are suspended.

[ct2005]

All these distractions ... now where is the next chapter for the new Jupiter?

[vinapu]

It is shame for us that Scooby must intervene  recently so often . I guess it happened more this year than in last four combined.

 

I suggest if we can't be nice to others naturally we should still force ourselves to be. 

[numazu]

Day 1.5: Jupiter Ascending Part IV: Soi 4 Edition

 

I have talked extensively about Jupiter here, here and here. And from the reaction of the people in this thread, I’d say we are firmly divided in our impressions of Jupiter. I’ve always liked Jupiter, but I did let some of the negative reviews others had about the place affect me and I stayed away from the bar for a long time. I went back last December and had a fairly satisfying encounter with a boy that has lived in my head for months after that.

 

So samebb, The Lion, and I take the few steps from Telephone and head over to Jupiter. I notice that Jupiter had some seating  outside that can be purposed as an outdoor bar. The fee, with one drink, was 250 baht, which was cheaper than most that was offered in Twilight or Tawan, or even what the old Jupiter offered.  Perhaps introductory pricing? samebb paid for my cover, I guess since I paid for the drinks just earlier. We get ushered in by a waiter, who was good-looking himself and could pass for a Jupiter boy.

 

What I saw inside was promising. At 9:15 PM there were only a smattering of customers already in there, with some working boys sitting beside them. We had our choice of seats, so I choose a bench that was on the right side of the stage. The bench was comfortable seating for 4, so samebb, The Lion and I can sit comfortably. We order our drinks, and take in the ambiance.

 

So the main stage was built like a model runway. There was the main stage in the center, and it was bigger than most main stages I’ve seen.  From the center there was a narrow-ish runway extending to the seating further back and almost extended to 2/3s of the length of the bar. The stage itself had stairs leading to second floor where boys can pose in the stage side, and some seating in the audience-side, much like the old Jupiter was.

 

The lighting was great and flattering. Just the right amount onstage to make the boys standout, and dimmer but not too dark lighting in the audience, so we don't trip over things. The music was pretty good. They weren’t playing the usual infernal Thai dance music that you would normally hear in alleyways and locals-only venue. They actually played more western dance music much like DJ Station did. This bar was a breath of fresh air.

 

But perhaps, the main difference were the boys. Almost a third of the boys were recognizable from old Jupiter. Mehkin and MuscleBoy were there, as well as some other old Jupiter boys, some really hot, some average, who made the transition. But there were a lot of newcomers who either were new when I was in old Jupiter last Songkran, or just new altogether. And the difference was they weren’t wearing the same underwear outfit the gogo bars usually ask them to wear. Some of them were wearing underwear, some of them were wearing skimpy shorts, some of them were wearing jeans only, and some of them were wearing full clothing.

 

Now some sex-tourists would find this off-putting. Why would one go to a gogo bar with fully-clothed guys? I actually think this is a great idea. There was something for everyone. If one wanted a boy in skimpy underwear, there were some who fit the bill.  If one were finding a boy-next-door type, there was a lot of that who were wearing full clothes. If someone wanted someone sexy and smoldering shirtless and in tight jeans, there was one there for you. I feel that the variety in dress and demeanor made the boys stand out on their own, and made them more memorable to the customers. They had their own individual styles, and this definitely adds another level to their attractiveness. And really, there has to be something said about leaving something to the imagination.

 

So I begin looking for the three boys. I scan the bar for them. I see the first one. He was tall, fair skinned, trendy hair that was brushed forward, and he looked like a Korean K-pop star. Let’s call him Korean. Korean was shirtless and wearing really tight jeans. Korean was sitting with a customer towards the back. I felt deflated, thinking that I lost my chance with Korean tonight, as he was with a customer drinking. I turn my attention back to the stage. There were some boys on the floor. And then samebb gets my attention and tells me, pointing to the stage “There he is.”

 

Indeed he was there, the first Myanmar boy. He had a handsome young face, skin a healthy light tan, and very strong legs. He was wearing a medium length sleeveless white t-shirt, but was wearing only underwear and shoes. Another unique set of clothing that was memorable. Let’s call him MonBoy. I recognize him from the video samebb sent me weeks earlier. I didn’t need any encouragement. I had to have him before anyone else got to him. I raise my hand to signal to him to come to us. He acknowledges and walks the runway to our direction and sits down with us.

 

He sits between me and The Lion. He shakes my hand and whispers in my ear “Thank you,” and kisses my cheek. Wow he was pretty forward already with me. He shakes The Lion’s and samebb’s hand. He was sitting pretty close to me. He takes my hand and puts it in his hand, and navigates it near his crotch. I get a feel of his big bulge. This was really promising. He also smelled good. He had some fragrance on that complimented his own body scent. I tell him to get himself a drink, as he seemed to have forgotten that he can do that. He signals to one of the waiters and his drink shows up pretty quickly. I pay 250 baht for that.

 

I look at his face, and he smiles at me. I ask him the usual questions. He asks me to repeat certain questions again as his English was not the best. I figure out his proficiency was able to ask him further questions after that. He said he is 23, a Myanmar boy from Mon State. He has been working as a gogo boy in Jupiter for 2 weeks. He says he was a farmer before being a gogo boy and just wanted to earn enough money to bring back home to his family.

 

So first, I am surprised that he has only been at this job for 2 weeks. I am guessing that Jupiter went on a hiring spree to fill its boy stable, in time for the opening of the new location. I am going to say that they are very successful in their efforts, as the bar was filled with new boys. There is a certain allure in hiring a boy who has not been in the gogo boy business that long. This was getting better the more I talk to him. His hands, which have not let go of my left hand since he sat with us, were rough and callous, presumably from the farming he has been doing.

 

I inspect his face and he smiles again. Very winning smile. Very seductive face. Very inviting eyes. I ask him if he was straight or gay. He smiles widely, probably because this was a complicated question for him. “Both” he says. “You like girl and boy?” “Yes, both.” “Are you a top or a bottom?” “I top.”  He moves my hand towards his crotch. What I felt was bigger than what I’ve ever touched in a gogo bar. He rests my hand on his crotch as he takes a hand to my head to pull it closer. He puts his mouth to my cheek, as if to kiss me. Instead he takes a big whiff. He pulls back and smiles. That’s a first, a boy smelling me in a bar.

 

Normally I would hesitate to off a pure top at a bar. I have done it before, to mixed results.  I tried my luck. “I top too. Top both.” I say, pointing to us both as I say the word “Top.” He smiles and says “Can top both.” I clarify “You top me?” pointing at his crotch and then at me. He nods. “I top you?” pointing at my crotch and then to him. He nods. “Yes can both.” OK, he is letting me top him as well. This might work really well. I tell him I will off him tonight. He tells me that he can’t leave the bar till 12 midnight as he is in the main gogo show. I tell him that it is fine and I will wait for him. He signals to the mamasan and I give him 400 baht for the off fee. Off number 1 complete.

 

I see Korean was no longer with his customer and has gone back to the stage. I test my luck again. I ask MonBoy if we can have two more boys join us. He puts two fingers up. I say yes. I ask him if Korean would be a good boy for us to talk with. I point Korean to MonBoy. MonBoy hesitates and says “Good boy. But I no talk him.” So he hasn’t talked to Korean ever in the 2 weeks. I ask if it was OK if we talk to him. “Can.” He says. And then I see my third boy. He was offstage at first, but went onstage on the far side from Korean.

 

The third boy was the other Myanmar boy that samebb talked about. He was only wearing tight black shorts and sneakers. He had a lean body, close to twinkish but has muscular arms and abs and a tight chest. He was tall and his skin was lighter than most of the boys here. And his face was probably the biggest prize of all. He was pretty, and boyish, and had a face that could belong in teen magazines. He could be 18 or 19. Lets call him KarenBoy.

 

I point KarenBoy to MonBoy and ask him what he thought about him. He laughs and tells me that he is one of his best friends. He apologizes and says KarenBoy can’t join us because he does not want to have sex with his friends. He says he is OK with Korean because they are not friends. I laugh and accept his logic. I am making MonBoy my main boy tonight. So I will trust his judgment on which boy can join us.

 

I ask MonBoy which third boy can be good to sit with us. He scans the room and then tells me to just pick one and he can tell me if the boy is good. I see a handsome guy shirtless and in tight jeans just like Korean. I point to him, and MonBoy tells me again that he doesn’t know him. “New” he says. Great, I like new boys. I ask MonBoy if Korean and NewBoy can sit with us. He says OK and leaves my side to call on the two boys.

 

While I wait for the two boys, I face samebb to tell him the gist of what is happening. samebb laughs and says that he and The Lion can leave Jupiter to eat on Soi 4. I tell samebb that he does not have to leave, and I can just relocate to another row, since I will now have three boys sitting with me. samebb said that it is fine and they were hungry anyway. I bid them goodbye and decide to go to the bathroom. I go to the urinal and unzip my shorts, and felt my dick was still hard from all the flirting MonBoy was doing. I pull down my underwear and feel that it was moist with precum. Wow, whatever MonBoy was doing was working. I was so turned on by him. This was a good sign. My body was responding favorably to his mere presence.

 

I emerge from the bathroom and as I located my seat I see a heavenly sight: three handsome young men, one in a sleeveless white top and briefs and two shirtless muscular boys in tight jeans, sitting in my spot, waiting on me. What could possibly happen?

 

Is it 3 boys tonight? 2? 1? The sensitive politics of offing multiple boys at the same time, next.

[forky123]

Thank you Numazu for your updates which are enjoyable to most. Thank you Scooby for ridding the topic of the negativity. As for promiscuity, I enjoy being promiscuous and will continue for as long as I am able. For large parts of my life I could not indulge often due to gay sex being against military regulations. Now, I thoroughly enjoy meeting many different partners both at home and on holiday in Thailand. People can call it what they like since I really don't give a shit what anyone else thinks. I call it having a good time.

[numazu]

Hoooo boy, that escalated quickly. I was tempted to reply to steveboy's very many queries and concerns on here, but I didn't have to, as you guys have already done this, and more eloquently than I ever could. I love it when people reply to the report. I like reading about people's reactions to my activities, and I am very interested to know what parts of my holidays resonate with the members the most. I use feedback, any feedback, to motivate me to continue posting. The last thing I want is to silence any perceived criticism on the thread. I believe it is part of what makes this community great. We are all different, and I encourage differing opinions than mine on my reports. That's how we grow, is knowing about other people's experiences.

 

BUT, It can get pretty draining for someone like me who likes posting trip reports, to have to read and respond to a lot of what steveboy has lobbed in my direction. It's not even the judgmental nature of his comments that bothered me, its more the speculation on my life (i.e. he only thinks about sex), character (i.e. he is not a contributor to society), and motivations (i.e. I am desperate for sex) that was very troublesome. My BF has been tempted to reply on my behalf at times, as any devoted BF would when his beloved is attacked this way. I'm glad he didn't, because such aspersions don't deserve a response. I told him that its just the internet, and its just one guy getting carried away.

 

I hope this thread can continue on with a healthy participation from the members. And I hope this little episode has not dulled whatever little motivation we have left in making our little community better. I have learned so much about Thailand just by scanning through all the rich knowledge that has been written on here over the years. Writing these trip reports is my way of repaying those people who have come before me, and who have paved the way to me enjoying the country. Hopefully there are some of you who find all this writing useful.