reader Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 Inspired by the wildly popular thread Abhorrent behavior on Twilight, my original intent was to research the history of male sex workers organizing in some sort of association that address issues we've been reading and posting about. The first evidence I came across is Scarlet Men, a group working out of Australia. Topics on its website include "client control", "keeping it up" and "spit or swallow".http://www.scarletalliance.org.au/scarletmen/ But the more I Googled the less evidence I found of sex worker unions in what I admit was a less than exhaustive search. However, I did come across some associated links that might interest some here. Here's a photo essay from Slate, "The Sex workers of Thailand," featuring mostly males from the period 2007-2012. http://www.slate.com/blogs/behold/2014/01/09/gerry_yaum_photographs_sex_workers_in_pattaya_thailand_in_his_exhibition.html The more I read the more I was persuaded that males are far less likely to organize themselves in the way females have. The idea of operating largely on their own appeals to them. Even those working out of a bar still seem to value their independence. The bar may be the venue that brings the client and provider together, but the compensation--and any attendant risks--are shared by the individuals. This article about the street scene in Mexico City portrays the lone hustler. https://news.vice.com/article/mexico-citys-male-hustlers-inside-the-rough-lives-of-the-good-vibe-guys For those who wish to pursue the topic. here's a review of the book "Male Sex Work and Society." http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/09/07/male-sex-work-and-society_n_5766774.html t0oL1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ryanasia Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 Go to the thread ask a money boy anything to get some perspective. It isn't the end all of it but you can get some insights. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChristianPFC Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 There was an article about boys in Saranrom a few years ago, that was discussed in the forums, that would fit in here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vessey Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 Quite often straight and gay bars recruit from the same areas and provide an informal 'family' that both protects (& controls) new additions to that bar. One of my favourite gay bars in the Jomtien Complex, has a Cambodian boss and lots of the boys are from the same part of Cambodia - some are even related. They take good care of each other and will often try and find customers for each other. Not 'Unions' as such but have much the same benefits at a micro-level. Alexx 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DThump Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 The 3 guys in the the same photo all worked years ago in Sunee Plaza....I am familiar with the guy in the middle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spoon Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 I usually asked new recruits in kl how they know this place and most of the times, its their friend that told them to come. So no surprise when most of the boys comes from same place, as they usually come there because their friends ask them to come Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reader Posted May 1, 2017 Author Share Posted May 1, 2017 There was an article about boys in Saranrom a few years ago, that was discussed in the forums, that would fit in here. Thanks for the lead, Christian. I searched this forum for "Saranrom" and was amazed by the number of threads and posts. If you were referring to an outside source article, could you find a link? After a few hours of reading I have no regrets that a never bothered to pay it a visit. It seems to be high risk in several categories. Your escape from the guy with the machete sealed it! I do miss the guys who used to populate the stretch of Rama IV between Silom and Surawong, most asking 500 if I recall. But have seen very few there in recent years. On another note, agree with those who posted that guys from other SE Asian countries tend to form informal groups to look out for each other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChristianPFC Posted May 2, 2017 Share Posted May 2, 2017 The article was from an external source. I vaguely remember the thread was on sawatdeenetwork, and I commented that the numbers in the article are far away from my estimates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexx Posted May 2, 2017 Share Posted May 2, 2017 This article, I'd guess: http://bk.asia-city.com/city-living/news/21-year-old-money-boy-bangkok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChristianPFC Posted May 2, 2017 Share Posted May 2, 2017 Yes. Now I vaguely remember, I linked to the article or the post on the forum referring to that article in my blog. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reader Posted May 2, 2017 Author Share Posted May 2, 2017 Came across a not dissimilar article about a Sydney guy, 26, who got into the trade to pay bills when he was 19. Says he charges $280 (AUD) per hour, an amount not unlike might be asked in major US cities--and probably rivals what many lawyers bill out at. http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/real-life/true-stories/australias-rent-boys-male-prostitution-is-everywhere-sex-industry-boss-says/news-story/faf8efff03b7cfb725a29a276151bd81 One of the strangest documents I came across was a scholarly thesis titled Spaces of Male Prostitution: Tactics, Performativity and Gay Identities in Streets, Go-Go Bars and Magazines in Contemporary Bangkok, Thailand. The Thai author submitted it in partial fulfillment for a PhD in architecture from University College, London. It goes on for 371 pages, much of it numblingly academic but it does mention Sananrom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reader Posted May 2, 2017 Author Share Posted May 2, 2017 Ryanasia's post about his former profession is definitely with a look. His first-hand accounts are intriguing as they are informative. Many posters got their questions answered in the 241 replies. http://www.gaythailand.com/forums/topic/10461-ask-a-former-money-boy-anything Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...