a447a Posted April 14, 2017 Posted April 14, 2017 I don't think they care in Perth. When I go through Immigration to leave the country they can see on their computer screens that I am a very frequent visitor to Thailand - 4 times a year over many years. My passport is full of stamps. I guess if they were in any way concerned, they would alert Immigration to look out for me on my return. On the Immigration card you have to tick the reason for your travel - business, education, leisure, etc. Other than that, what I do when I'm away is none of their fucking business. Quote
kokopelli Posted April 14, 2017 Posted April 14, 2017 You are right, I hadn't thought about this! I also have Global Entry and pass through Immigration checked by a machine. Now I can leave all my raunchy porn on laptop and tablet, maybe add some more... Except that when the machines are down (it happened to me once) one still has to face a real person. But at least when I applied for Global Entry they didn't make me swear that I'm not gay. With Global Entry, which I also have, you pass through Immigration at a kiosk, which issues you a receipt of sorts. You then must go through Customs, a real person, which they can, if they wish, inspect your luggage. Although, with the receipt in hand, this is unlikely. Quote
vinapu Posted April 14, 2017 Posted April 14, 2017 This reminds me of my 96 y.o. brother in law. people don't live that long Quote
vinapu Posted April 14, 2017 Posted April 14, 2017 .... golden era around the 1950's. Everything was better at that time, and things have been going downhill since then. this is not a question of water being more wet in the days of old. When comes to crossing border to many Western Countries , particularly both North American ones it's really much worse now with longer interrogations and much stricter document requirements. Quote
firecat69 Posted April 14, 2017 Posted April 14, 2017 Since I am forced to read my on ignore steveboy, I have to reply to either his stupid or ill informed statement. The 50's Great time 5 million people lost their live in the Korean War. The Soviet Union was in full bloom as was the race for nuclear weapons and the Cold War was enveloping the world. No the 50's were not better. . Quote
lilbob69 Posted April 14, 2017 Posted April 14, 2017 Since I am forced to read my on ignore steveboy, I have to reply to either his stupid or ill informed statement. The 50's Great time 5 million people lost their live in the Korean War. The Soviet Union was in full bloom as was the race for nuclear weapons and the Cold War was enveloping the world. No the 50's were not better. . Firecat69 dont take offense, but if you have someone on ignore don't reply to a partial quote from someone elses post. The full quote from steveboy "This reminds me of my 96 y.o. brother in law. His mind places a golden era around the 1950's. Everything was better at that time, and things have been going downhill since then. My much younger sister an me we take this man as a role model of how not to age, and we mutually cultivate our optimism and peace of mind." My highlighting Quote
Guest Posted April 14, 2017 Posted April 14, 2017 Am I missing something, what the heck have some of you guys got stored on your device(s) that you're so worried about someone seeking access to it ? I mean if its just gay porn and Thai guys getting fucked by you and the like or whatever then "so what" I assuming it's all above board etc) - and again unless I'm missing something. When travelling between the UK, Europe & Thailand, I agree. I don't see what there is to worry about. I go through passport control, collect the bags & leave without ever getting stopped. (That's how it should be, since they really ought to be concentrating on the Taliban sympathisers). Even if the UK border agency read every single post I have ever made on this forum, so what ? I'm not breaking any UK laws. I kind of understand why US citizens thing differently, having heard the way friends get stopped and questioned at secondary when returning to the US. Since he's also not broken any US laws & they have no hope of proving so, it's just harassment. Quote
steveboy Posted April 14, 2017 Posted April 14, 2017 people don't live that long Wait until you are 97 y.o., if you get that lucky... this is not a question of water being more wet in the days of old. When comes to crossing border to many Western Countries , particularly both North American ones it's really much worse now with longer interrogations and much stricter document requirements. In the "days of old" it took much longer to cross the oceans by steamboats. Quote
steveboy Posted April 14, 2017 Posted April 14, 2017 Firecat69 dont take offense, but if you have someone on ignore don't reply to a partial quote from someone elses post. The full quote from steveboy "This reminds me of my 96 y.o. brother in law. His mind places a golden era around the 1950's. Everything was better at that time, and things have been going downhill since then. My much younger sister an me we take this man as a role model of how not to age, and we mutually cultivate our optimism and peace of mind." My highlighting Thank you Libob69. This firecat69 put me on ignore because he could not tolerate me bringing up his mistakes and misjudgments. He must have learned this from the ostriches sticking their head in the sand when feeling in danger. This about the ostriches is a myth, but it is not a myth about firecat. Quote
bucknaway Posted April 14, 2017 Author Posted April 14, 2017 Things like ghis worry me. Once the mistake is made. YouRe life is turned upside down. Man arrested for having ‘twink’ images on his computer Joe Williams 8th May 2015, 4:54 PM , Mike Whitla was found not guilty of 15 charges brought against him by the police A man wrongly accused by the police of creating and storing images of child abuse says police need lessons in gay terminology to prevent ‘ruining more lives’. Last month, Mike Whitla from Bangor was found not guilty of 15 charges brought against him by the police. After a forensic investigator completed an in depth search of his computer and discovered he could not be guilty, the prosecution failed to offer any further evidence against him, leaving the judge with no choice but to direct the jury to return a not guilty verdict on each charge. He has since revealed how he was ‘suspended from his job working with vulnerable children, forced to come out as a gay man and abandoned by almost all of his friends.’ http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2015/05/08/man-arrested-for-having-twink-images-on-computer/ Quote
vinapu Posted April 15, 2017 Posted April 15, 2017 .... and abandoned by almost all of his friends.’ no harm done as they weren't his friends if they abandoned him before proven guilty Quote
vinapu Posted April 15, 2017 Posted April 15, 2017 Wait until you are 97 y.o., if you get that lucky... that's easy , only 20 years left Quote
steveboy Posted April 15, 2017 Posted April 15, 2017 that's easy , only 20 years left So you are now 77 y.o.? Congratulations, only 1.7 years left to reach your life expectancy. After that it is all gravy, all extra time that you are perfectly justified to dedicate 100% to the Thai boys Quote
kokopelli Posted April 15, 2017 Posted April 15, 2017 So you are now 77 y.o.? Congratulations, only 1.7 years left to reach your life expectancy. Not quite right about that, steveboy. For someone who once reaches 77 yo, their life expectancy is another 10 years. Someone born in 1940 (77 years ago) had a life expectancy of 61 years. Point is, the closer you are to the finish line, the chances of reaching it will increase. Quote
abidismaili Posted April 15, 2017 Posted April 15, 2017 Not quite right about that, steveboy. For someone who once reaches 77 yo, their life expectancy is another 10 years. Someone born in 1940 (77 years ago) had a life expectancy of 61 years. Point is, the closer you are to the finish line, the chances of reaching it will increase. What does it mentally do with a person who must know the chances to die within the nex 10 years are very high? I mean look back at 10 years ago, I remember it like it was the day of yesterday. September 11 2001 is almost 16 years ago, but it feels much closer. So knowing how fast 10 years go by, what does it mentally do to you knowing most likely in 10 years time (which approaches extremely rapidly) you are not there anymore. Assume Trump will last 8 years, you think you will experience who will be the next American president? Maybe Trump is your last one (and he could be my last one also of course, just for me the chances are much higher to witness a few more presidents). That is what I hate about aging. If I am 80 then each day I go to bed I would think it could happen tonight. Now I just assume to wake up when I go to bed for sleep. But you still can assume that when 80? Do you arrange stuff like what to do with your body when you die in Thailand when on holiday? Quote
PeterRS Posted April 15, 2017 Posted April 15, 2017 I once said you have too many negative thoughts. You denied it. Now you write a post about yet more negative thoughts. I am roughly a couple of decades older than you. I can tell you that age has never concerned me in the slightest- except once. I remember was terrified of being 40. So starting at 37 I slowly became something of a mental wreck as I could not get 40 out of my mind. No idea why I did not have that feeling at either 30 or 50. Then suddenly it was my 40th birthday. All the worry disappeared almost overnight and I reckon my 40s turned out to be the best decade in my life. As someone once said, there are no certainties in life except death and taxes. So better get used to the fact that death will hit you and all of us sometime. Maybe tomorrow. Maybe next week. Or maybe well all live to 85 and more. I have had friends die in their 20s (1 had a heart attack, the other a cerebral aneurism), 30s (AIDS), 40s (heart) and 50s (cancer). Any one of them could have been me. So I am thrilled to be around and still enjoying life. I plan to continue doing that for many years more. kokopelli, Alexx and traveller123 3 Quote
Popular Post forky123 Posted April 15, 2017 Popular Post Posted April 15, 2017 Since dying for some minutes at 38 and having multiple heart surgeries and episodes since, I can't say it worries me at all now (at 51). I can either live and enjoy my life, or worry about it. I choose to simply get on with living. vinapu, Alexx, Aux1010 and 4 others 7 Quote
a447a Posted April 15, 2017 Posted April 15, 2017 Abidismalli , you seem to think that old people worry about waking up the next morning. You conveniently ignore the fact that people do not always die of old age. Many die from cancer, heart attack, strokes, etc etc. These afflictions are not always related to age. Oh, and you could get hit by a bus tomorrow. Do you go to bed every night wondering if you'll have a heart attack or collapse and die from a stroke? No? Well why do you think people worry about dying ftom old age? Quote
kokopelli Posted April 15, 2017 Posted April 15, 2017 Since dying for some minutes at 38 and having multiple heart surgeries and episodes since, I can't say it worries me at all now (at 51). I can either live and enjoy my life, or worry about it. I choose to simply get on with living. forky here is a suggested avatar to include in your posts. I know someone who died at a young age of drowning but was revived and now 80 +. Alexx and vinapu 2 Quote
steveboy Posted April 15, 2017 Posted April 15, 2017 Not quite right about that, steveboy. For someone who once reaches 77 yo, their life expectancy is another 10 years. Someone born in 1940 (77 years ago) had a life expectancy of 61 years. Point is, the closer you are to the finish line, the chances of reaching it will increase. I'm sorry, you are right. Our life expectancy at some time is a function of our age at that time. The older we are, the further ahead the life expectancy moves. Too bad it moves ahead slower than our age advances, otherwise we could live forever! kokopelli 1 Quote
steveboy Posted April 15, 2017 Posted April 15, 2017 forky here is a suggested avatar to include in your posts. It may be better to take off those bandages before offing the young boys. Quote
steveboy Posted April 15, 2017 Posted April 15, 2017 What does it mentally do with a person who must know the chances to die within the nex 10 years are very high? I mean look back at 10 years ago, I remember it like it was the day of yesterday. September 11 2001 is almost 16 years ago, but it feels much closer. So knowing how fast 10 years go by, what does it mentally do to you knowing most likely in 10 years time (which approaches extremely rapidly) you are not there anymore. Assume Trump will last 8 years, you think you will experience who will be the next American president? Maybe Trump is your last one (and he could be my last one also of course, just for me the chances are much higher to witness a few more presidents). That is what I hate about aging. If I am 80 then each day I go to bed I would think it could happen tonight. Now I just assume to wake up when I go to bed for sleep. But you still can assume that when 80? Do you arrange stuff like what to do with your body when you die in Thailand when on holiday? Don't worry, perspectives change with age. Like PeterRS expressed, once you pass a certain age you feel PROUD of reaching increased seniority and you like to give out your age to hear people say "oh, I can't believe it, you don't look that old". If you go to bed one night and don't wake up the next morning... isn't this the best way to die? Quote
abidismaili Posted April 15, 2017 Posted April 15, 2017 As someone once said, there are no certainties in life except death and taxes. So better get used to the fact that death will hit you and all of us sometime. That was the consolation of all humans who have lived until now. On their deathbed they would know all their family, friends, just everyone, will also one time go that path. Which is some form of consolation of course. I mean how horrible to die with the knowledge all other ones will live forever, except you. But recent research points to a future where it is likely that eternal life comes into being. That the process of aging can be stopped. Of course this will have huge consequences. But it isn't as sure anymore as it was until now that all humans eventually will die. Big big chance there are humans alive now, who will still be there in 20.000 AD and in 1 million AD. Of course they have to backup their brain content now and then and renew the body, but they can go on if they like to. Or sleep for 10.000 years and then wake up (it feels then like only one night has passed) to see what has all changed. I won't be surprised if my parents generation (and probabaly mine also) are the last ones to die. Quote
steveboy Posted April 15, 2017 Posted April 15, 2017 But recent research points to a future where it is likely that eternal life comes into being. That the process of aging can be stopped. ... It is doubtful that anything good would come out of that. I have done my share in life, and if I reach 80, 90 or 100 I will be perfectly satisfied. No need for more. If others can live forever, I will feel sorry for them. I suggest that you read an interesting book, worth reading: "All Men are Mortal", by Simone de Beauvoir Quote