Winner Boys in Sunee Plaza opening February 18th

[Vessey]

On a recent visit, I saw one lad in a jockstrap with a very fine butt. 

 

A beautiful shapely naked boy butt and my wallet seems to fall open of its own accord! LOL

[hanan]

From what I've seen the last couple of weeks the boys have individual underwear every night now. So no more towels blocking the view. The owner seem to listen to what customers want and adjust accordingly and that is also a succesful concept. The bar was full of boys and customers yesterday at about 22 while some other bars in Sunee were more quiet.

[Travellerdave]

A beautiful shapely naked boy butt and my wallet seems to fall open of its own accord! LOL

As you can see from my avatar I’m in full agreement with you Vessey.

[Shonen]

I think Winners might be the savior of Sunnee. You can have some sleazy fun like Eros, and the boys are mostly gay and good looking. Offed a former Prism go go boy. Prism has many ex Sunnee workers there from Nice Boys and a couple migrating back to Winner bar.

[Vessey]

As you can see from my avatar I’m in full agreement with you Vessey.

 

Haha, I always assumed that was you?

 

(mine is very definitely NOT me I hasten to add LOL)

[hanan]

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[hanan]

I think Winners might be the savior of Sunnee. You can have some sleazy fun like Eros, and the boys are mostly gay and good looking.

I agree. Winnerboys seem to keep pulling in the crowds and business probably excellent for both bar and the boys who work there. If you visit around midnight the majority of the boys usually have been offed. I suspect some of them even twice.

 

Some of my humble conclusions is that Winnerboys concept proves that in Pattaya boy gogobars

- There is no need for fat pushy ladyboy mamasan. Waiters, boys and customers can take care of the deals themselves.

- At least in Sunee there is no need for drink prices around 200 baht each. Even with more low prices the bar can be profitable because of more plenty of happy customers buying more drinks for themselves and the boys, and more offs.

- There is no need to allow smoking inside a gogo bar. The customers who insist on not visiting a non-smoking bar are few.

- A farang owner who is on site night after night to make sure business is going well, will be sucessful.

[ChristianPFC]

Agree with all the above.

 

Comparison of Classic Boys Bangkok and Winner Boys Pattaya this month:

Classic Boys up to 30 customers, entertained by about 20 gogo boys and tended by about 20 fully dressed staff, drink price 380 THB regular, can be negotiated down to 300 THB.

Winner Boys 14 customers, 8 gogo boys, 5 fully dressed staff, drink price 79 THB for soft drink.

 

Even before going into off fees and tip expectations, I can make my choice: get on the bus to Pattaya!

[Travellerdave]

ChristianPFC

get on the bus to Pattaya!. I’m going to do just that next week from the airport. In fact I’ve just made my reservation on the very excellent Bell Travel service.

Winner Boys will definitely be high on my agenda.

[Guest]

I reckon Classic Boys had the best selection of cute twinks this year, followed by Winner Boys.

 

However, the pricing in Winner boys is much more attractive, so I agree with Christian that Winner boys is the place to be.

Winner Boys collected 3 off fees from me this time, which puts it in #1 position.

 

The only thing you need to be wary of is one or two of the boys sitting down with you before they are invited.

[Travellerdave]

Z909 would that be three separate boys or maybe the same boy three times?. I find it sometimes a bit difficult to “butterfly”, although I do like to off different ones in the early part of my trips. Later I often evolve into daddy mode.

[vinapu]

 I find it sometimes a bit difficult to “butterfly”, although I do like to off different ones in the early part of my trips. Later I often evolve into daddy mode.

I agree, taking different boys from the same bar night after night may feel bit awkward, it's why having different bars at disposal come handy.

 

But that awkwardness in more our problem than boys' who are used to this type of farang's behavior.

After a while when one builds a reputation for being butterfly it may be even expected as whisper of one  of Tawan hunks to my ear " when is my turn to sleep with you" attests   

[Guest]

Z909 would that be three separate boys or maybe the same boy three times?. I find it sometimes a bit difficult to “butterfly”, although I do like to off different ones in the early part of my trips. Later I often evolve into daddy mode.

Actually 2 boys, one of them twice. With several days between visits to the bar.

 

Whilst offing one lad per bar would avoid complications, it's not like there are 10 bars with 4~5 cute lads in each.

So it follows that I need to be prepared to off different lads from the same bar.

 

Remember, the lad you offed one night is only going to go with you on the next visit because of the tip.

As that's his main motivation, it follows that the customer should decide who gets the tip.

 

Of course, I do try to prepare by telling the lad I'm a butterfly on the first off.

[reader]

 

But that awkwardness in more our problem than boys' who are used to this type of farang's behavior.

 

Yes indeed.

 

I very much like two guys who work at the same place.  They both know it because I've told them so individually and I usually see them on an alternating basis. I'm careful, however, to pay them the same.  if I didn't, then I could see a problem in the making.

[Guest]

But that awkwardness in more our problem than boys' who are used to this type of farang's behavior.

And "our problem" is merely a psychological problem, rather than a real one. A psychological problem which we ourselves can challenge & fix.

 

The boys will for the most part go with a different customer every night if that's where the next tip is coming from.

 

We're perfectly entitled to ask to off any boy in the bar. The selfish ones might try to pressurize you to off them again, but that's for the most part their self interest. Others are just behave perfectly when you off another lad.

[ggobkk]

Question - what’s the off fee?

[Travellerdave]

Another question about Winner for recent visitors. How many boys would you expect to find at say 10 pm ? This would be when most boys would have appeared but before many were offed. Also what proportion could be classified as twinks.

[Guest]

Estimate: 6, of which all could be classified as twinks, but perhaps 3 might be interesting contenders for an off.

 

Disclaimers:

1 I believe these things can vary significantly from night to night, based on a general assessment of gogo bars

2 I was there during peak season, when there were plenty of customers to off lads. Customers were outnumbering the lads on some visits. So when things quieten down, perhaps they don't get offed as quickly.

 

I suppose some of the Pattaya residents can make a better estimate.

[kokopelli]

Question - what’s the off fee?

600 TB before 10:00 pm; 400 TB after 10 pm.

[kokopelli]

Another question about Winner for recent visitors. How many boys would you expect to find at say 10 pm ? This would be when most boys would have appeared but before many were offed. Also what proportion could be classified as twinks.

At one time the boyz were being offed at the time the bar opened thus leaving few to "man" the stage. Now there seems to be plenty  of boyz at 10 pm.  In general many twinks types but that is all in the eye of the beholder.

It seems that there are incentives to encourage the boyz to return to the bar after an off. 

[Travellerdave]

I visited Winner at about 10.00 pm last night passing through the almost deserted Sunee Plaza. There was about 6 boys on the stage dancing with a variable amount on enthusiasm plus perhaps the same number interacting with customers. I was stimulated by the sight of most of the boys (several twinks) dressed in abrievated speedos - the sort you used to see on the Dongtan gay beach a few years ago. All in all an exciting prospect for a gay sex tourist like me. I had about an hour on an off of kissing and fondling and when I left the cost was very modest in the shape of drinks for me, boy drinks and tips.

[Travellerdave]

I made a second visit to Winner towards the end of my trip with the intention of offing. On entering I was surprised to find the place very busy and in fact there was a shortage of bench seats around the end of the room, but I quickly slid into a place just being vacated. In fact the shortage was not confined to seats as I looked like a number of boys had been offed already. It was about 11 after all. I ordered a SAN Miguel Lite which is now my favourite tipple in Thailand. I like to think there are fewer calories in it but am not sure if this is the case.

There was only two boys vaguely moving on the stage, but I spotted one wearing a g-string just emerging into the room. Giving him a wave and a smile brought him over. He told me him was 28 and he had broken up with his German boyfriend was was very sad. My neighbour was holding the cock of his boy but under a towel, but I indulged only in a little kissing and cuddling. Winner does not seem to be the place for more extreme activity. My boy said he was bottom and didn’t like to top, so I did check bin and returned to the Complex by motor bike taxi. I am more bottom.

Modest drink prices continue to foster good business for Winner and its boys.

[kokopelli]

Winner Boy Bar 1 Year Anniversary Party on 14 Feb, Valentine's Day.

Starts at 7:30 pm until ?. Free snack and free shots. 

Advertised, 20 Gorgeous Boys + A Few Ugly One.

[biguyby]

Just in time for me

[williewillie]

600 TB before 10:00 pm; 400 TB after 10 pm.

This pricing policy made sense during high season, when there were many customers. Now, in low season, there are few

customers and some of them are put off by 600b. off fee.