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Seredipity - January visit - Bangkok, Pattaya, and back

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.  My serendipity has made for two special nights.  Nights that won't just disappear as part of some trying to remember what happened on a trip.

 

 

that 'K' must be definitely something and somebody, I feel kind of envious

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Nice to read that you live in Berkeley, ggobkk, I lived there for 5 years about 15 years ago and it was a great time. I enjoy reading your Thailand reports, please keep them coming. :)

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You were sorely missed at Maggie Choo's, which was packed and to my surprise had a lot of very tall guys - over 6').  As you know the guy I was with is more local average-to-short, so hard for him to see much.  Maggie Choo's gay night is very loud.  There was a lot of overlap with the drag show at Stranger Bar the previous Thursday night (same performers), so that's a fun alternative we should keep in mind your next visit.  But at Maggie Choo's you do get top-shelf drinks.  

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You were sorely missed at Maggie Choo's,

 

more info on maggie choo's would be appreciated.  it has been on the list last 2 visits... .havent gotten there.  specific night for specific entertainment/gay nights? 

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Sunday night is gay night.  The club is an interesting space - lots of exposed brick.  It's not a big cavernous club, but an underground night club.  For gay night it's a very crowded upscale gay bar.  No go go dancers.  A healthy mix of expats, tourists and upper & middle class Thais.  Pretty much all ages, but obviously mostly mid 30s because it's mostly locals.  Not cruisy.  Pangina Heels runs the drag show.  She's American.  forget the names of her colleagues.  Usual mix of lip sync and other maybe a little edgy performances, with some interactive bits like name the song and singer and win a shot or a condom or things like that.  

 

There can be a line to get in depending on when you get there, just because the club can only hold so many people, so later on you have to wait until people leave to free up space.  I am pretty sure they let people in in order of arrival, not a "door" like some NYC clubs.  It can't be that exclusive if I can get in without a problem.  I think it's about 300 a person, but that gets you your first drink, which looked to be tanqueray or beefeaters or similar top shelf.  Overall fun friendly vibe.  I would say dress code is smart casual.  I have noise issues so I carry ear plugs to take a break from the noise.  They help.  I believe smoking is allowed, but isn't particularly smoky.  Definitely a nice break from Soi 4/Soi Twilight or DJ Station/G.O.D, and for me much more comfortable than the big clubs like Fake Club or Celebrity.  

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, Vinapu prods me to write a report..maybe that will make things understandable.  

 

 

and he is glad you listened to his suggestion LOL

 

Thank you for great and dynamic travel report and start preparing for a next trip , whenever it willl be

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Sunday night is gay night.  The club is an interesting space - lots of exposed brick.  It's not a big cavernous club, but an underground night club.  For gay night it's a very crowded upscale gay bar.  No go go dancers.  A healthy mix of expats, tourists and upper & middle class Thais.  Pretty much all ages, but obviously mostly mid 30s because it's mostly locals.  Not cruisy.  Pangina Heels runs the drag show.  She's American.  forget the names of her colleagues.  Usual mix of lip sync and other maybe a little edgy performances, with some interactive bits like name the song and singer and win a shot or a condom or things like that.  

 

There can be a line to get in depending on when you get there, just because the club can only hold so many people, so later on you have to wait until people leave to free up space.  I am pretty sure they let people in in order of arrival, not a "door" like some NYC clubs.  It can't be that exclusive if I can get in without a problem.  I think it's about 300 a person, but that gets you your first drink, which looked to be tanqueray or beefeaters or similar top shelf.  Overall fun friendly vibe.  I would say dress code is smart casual.  I have noise issues so I carry ear plugs to take a break from the noise.  They help.  I believe smoking is allowed, but isn't particularly smoky.  Definitely a nice break from Soi 4/Soi Twilight or DJ Station/G.O.D, and for me much more comfortable than the big clubs like Fake Club or Celebrity.  

thanks for detailed reply.  remains on the list then!  sounds better than average. 

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ggobkk - thanks for taking the time to write a great trip report, thoroughly enjoyed reading it, good balance as in not too much detail but enough to make the reader feel involved.

 

Thanks for sharing...look forward to reading about your future adventures

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"In retrospect, this was not a good idea.  Other than a high reading on the PSA test, I had no other symptoms.  The outcome of the biopsy was two fold: one, I simply have a large prostate thus the high reading; two, the cuts and sample removals from the prostate for the biopsy reduced my ability to ejaculate.  It also lessened somewhat my ability to keep my personal flagpole at attention."

 

Enjoyed reading your post. I also is a long-time prostate survivor. Many years ago my PSA came back extremely high. And my GP at the time, a Gay Doc, admonished me to have IT removed immediately. I found out later that his Father had died of prostate cancer, so this influenced his viewpoint.

 

I saw the Urologist he referred me to and had a long discussion about the options and the consequences. I did my research and even had a consult with a Oncologist who does the Needles Procedure. The Urologist did a biopsy and the lab could barely find any cancer cells. So now 10 years later I am still taking the Watchful Waiting approach. I am 76 yo and on my last exam my Urologist said my PSA was still high but there was no reason to perform and additional biopsies.

 

I have not suffered any serious side effects. Other than the bleeding that goes on for several weeks after the biopsy. Yes, my libido is not what is used to be and my cum is not thick and creamy... Too bad. But I am very glad I did not jump into having surgery or radiology.

 

Life goes on...  :good:

 

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I have not suffered any serious side effects. Other than the bleeding that goes on for several weeks after the biopsy. Yes, my libido is not what is used to be and my cum is not thick and creamy... Too bad. But I am very glad I did not jump into having surgery or radiology.

 

Life goes on...  :good:

 

These doctors!...When the urologist prescribed a biopsy he told me that it is a "simple" procedure, when I asked him if cancer could spread because of the biopsy he told me that this is false, and all was rosy and fine.  And surgeons will think of surgery as the first option...

 

I remember many years ago in my church group one elderly man telling another who was a doctor that he had decided to undergo prostate surgery,  and the doctor CONGRATULATED him for that "wise" decision, like "welcome to the group of sheep who worship the Medical Establishment and us Gods of Medicine" 

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The profit motive is alive and well in the MD community.  Once had a doctor try to persuade me have a colonoscopy under general anesthesia! I disabused him of the notion and went elsewhere for the procedure.

 

I've developed a healthy skepticism about initial medical opinions that has served me well over time.

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HAHAHA

All the stories we old men have

Let the younger ones here know what they have to look forward to...

Take care!!

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I also is a long-time prostate survivor. Many years ago my PSA came back extremely high. And my GP at the time, a Gay Doc, admonished me to have IT removed immediately. I found out later that his Father had died of prostate cancer, so this influenced his viewpoint.

A friend in Switzerland was told he had the same high PSA. His biopsy came back positive for cancer cells. After a lot of discussion he decided the important thing was to be cancer free. So he had the operation. After recovery he found it was impossible to get an erection. He tried virtually everything but with no luck. Having been a top all his life, he simply decided if he wanted a sex life he had to become a bottom. He took to it quite easily and believes it was worth it to be free of cancer.

 

He was 61 when he had the operation. If you are a bit older the adage always used to be that you will die of natural causes before slow developing prostate cancer does the deed. I suspect 61 is a bit young to depend on the former.

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HAHAHA

All the stories we old men have

Let the younger ones here know what they have to look forward to...

Take care!!

 

Yes, the older we get the more stories we can tell.

And I think that the stories we older people in this forum have to tell are worth taking into account.

The fact that WE ARE in this forum interested in getting as much and as good sex as we can... is proof that

one can live a healthy life without abusing anything and reach old age with most of the body functioning as designed.

 

We display a sense of humor and optimism that reveal a progressive resolution of the conflicts of life as we gain experience, gaining a healthy agnosticism about the fantasies of organized religion, social norms and medical fashions. Many of us having retired and being financially secure we have the time to dedicate to our favorite pastimes, like hobbies and sex tourism (!), The lack of stress works favorably to let us overcome the little frustrations of every day and enjoy a happy life for as long as we can imagine.

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He was 61 when he had the operation. If you are a bit older the adage always used to be that you will die of natural causes before slow developing prostate cancer does the deed. I suspect 61 is a bit young to depend on the former.

 

Today the latest rule seems to be that men over 70 should not get a PSA test if they are free of symptoms, and to have some difficulty peeing should be first attributed to an enlarged prostate and treated accordingly.  So there is no need to rush!  It might not be long before a better diagnosis than this PSA may become available and then, with reduced risk of false positives and without the complication of a biopsy, one might satisfy the curiosity about what are the chances.

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I wonder what happened to the physical examinations that were common before the PSA became routine. I twice had a cute doctor at Bumrungrad doing the exam at the end of a check up. One did seem to leave his finger there rather longer than propriety dictated!

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Yes, the older we get the more stories we can tell.

And I think that the stories we older people in this forum have to tell are worth taking into account.

The fact that WE ARE in this forum interested in getting as much and as good sex as we can... is proof that

one can live a healthy life without abusing anything and reach old age with most of the body functioning as designed.

 

We display a sense of humor and optimism that reveal a progressive resolution of the conflicts of life as we gain experience, gaining a healthy agnosticism about the fantasies of organized religion, social norms and medical fashions. Many of us having retired and being financially secure we have the time to dedicate to our favorite pastimes, like hobbies and sex tourism (!), The lack of stress works favorably to let us overcome the little frustrations of every day and enjoy a happy life for as long as we can imagine.

Well said! I couldn't agree more.

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HAHAHA

All the stories we old men have

Let the younger ones here know what they have to look forward to...

Take care!!

 

I like stories but the stories that my grandparents like to tell are not necessarily applicable to me as times and circumstances have changed.  And what is true today may not be true in fifty years' time.  And sometimes older people (or even young people - a common ailment among bored foreigners in Chiang Mai) invent stories and repeat them on purpose.    But, yeah, stories are fun and occasionally we can even learn a thing or two from them.

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I was guilty of panic after both my father and my older brother were diagnosed with prostate cancer. My PSA rose at every test I had (at one stage six-monthly)  but, now, after a  full body  scan cleared me, my perceptions have changed. The specialist told me he didn't want to hear from me unless my PSA reached 8.0; hitherto, a reading of 3.0 gave me concern. I now have yearly tests and my reading continues to rise but I  no longer worry. 

By the way, I was interested to note that tests in my GP's surgery  which sent to the local hospital  for analysis were always significantly higher than those in two different hospitals where  I saw  specialists..

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I twice had a cute doctor at Bumrungrad doing the exam at the end of a check up.  One did seem to leave his finger there rather longer than propriety dictated!

 

Might it have been a dentist who mistook your ass for your mouth? :rofl:

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