Guest stef Posted December 18, 2006 Posted December 18, 2006 Well, since we are all apologizing, I want to apologize to Stef. Last time I saw him in my pool, he was buck naked. It was hot! He has an amazing body. I had lustful thouhts. I am sorry Stef. Was I naked ? Humm I just felt so comfortable.. you know But thanks for the nice comments. And I have an apology for you. The last time I was in your pool, I was also buck naked. I apologize for not returning to help clean up after everyone finished vomiting. Well I thought the chlorine wasn't smelling chlorine at all. I even changed my sun lotion.. Thought it was bad... Now I know what happened... Thanks for the good laugh.... Quote
Guest Pearl69er Posted December 19, 2006 Posted December 19, 2006 The greatest disgrace that has been completely overlooked in the controversy over the original posting of this piece is the actual wording in the so-called "newspaper" itself. At no stage does the feature actually mention that any of these "offences" are alleged-it has just been acepted that the person mentioned is guilty merely because the police say so or a newpaper publishes the fact. Indeed in this case and many similar people on a variety of Thai boards comment as though people are automatically guilty merely because they have been arrrested in Thailand, ergo they must be guilty. A sad comentary on the state of Thailand's media and the presumption of innocence . The fact that most farangs coming from western countries with a proud Anglo-Saxon legal tradition that has spread far and wide quickly seem to abandon those principles when they come to Thailand or indeed many Asian countries is odd. It is usually authoritarian regimes that adopt the "guilty until proven innocent" concept, but then when cheap sex is on offer, who cares ? Quote
Gaybutton Posted December 19, 2006 Posted December 19, 2006 but then when cheap sex is on offer, who cares ? Not I. As a matter of fact, I couldn't care less. How do you like that? Quote
bkkguy Posted December 19, 2006 Posted December 19, 2006 A sad comentary on the state of Thailand's media and the presumption of innocence . The fact that most farangs coming from western countries with a proud Anglo-Saxon legal tradition that has spread far and wide quickly seem to abandon those principles when they come to Thailand or indeed many Asian countries is odd. It is usually authoritarian regimes that adopt the "guilty until proven innocent" concept, but then when cheap sex is on offer, who cares ? we are always being told to adapt "Thai ways" and respect "Thai culture" so I assume we should drop our "proud Anglo-Saxon legal tradition" - along with all the other "western" baggage and hangups we bring with us - at the immigration checkpoint! bkkguy Quote
Guest Pearl69er Posted December 19, 2006 Posted December 19, 2006 "Not I. As a matter of fact, I couldn't care less. How do you like that?" Well it's exactlly as I expected and why I take yours and everyone else's outrage about Earwig's so-called "plagairism" of a piece from a gutter rag not worthy of my pussy's litter tray with a grain of salt. So you think the Pattaya People may be a "newspaper" representing "Thai culture" bkkguy, or rather aimed at farangs starved of their weekly dose of the News of the Screws and resistant to learning the Thai language and reading Thai newspapers ?. Interesting. Not so sure I see many Thais reading it on a regular basis. Quote
Gaybutton Posted December 19, 2006 Posted December 19, 2006 Well it's exactlly as I expected and why I take yours and everyone else's outrage about Earwig's so-called "plagairism" of a piece from a gutter rag not worthy of my pussy's litter tray with a grain of salt. Gooooood! I see you're quickly moving toward the dark side of the force. Last month you were the leading authority on libel law. This month you're the leading authority on journalism. Toward this point in the month, our expert in journalism resorts to this kind of post. I can hardly wait for next month. It's not only the plagiarism that's at issue here. It's the changing of the words to suit his own purposes and the betrayal of trust, something that your posts thus far have failed to address. And that's why I no longer give a good goddam about what he thinks or what you think about anything at all. Quote
Guest catawampuscat Posted December 19, 2006 Posted December 19, 2006 Gaybutton, you forced me out of voluntary retirement from this forum with your remarks in this thread.. The last time I posted on this forum, it was to praise Rainwalker's posting, which put catawampuscat in the cat house for 10 days.. That will probably happen again as I praise Gaybutton for his remarks and the obvious end of his personal tolerance towards the plagiarist and his henchman..Bravo and Ole!! Well, I have said my piece and will return to the bliss of voluntary retirement from this forum and back to my pursuits of happiness and pleasure...whoppee.. Quote
Guest Hedda Posted December 19, 2006 Posted December 19, 2006 a piece from a gutter rag not worthy of my pussy's litter tray with a grain of salt. Which is undoubtedly the reason he chose to plagiarize it so blatantly. It fit so well with his regular style and standards for posting that he thought no one would ever bother to check it out. I must say that Pearly Mason has outdone herself with the unique legal theory that whether or not something is plagiarized depends on the quality of the original publication from whom the material is stolen. It's the counter-Robin Hood theory of copyrights. You can rob from the poor, but don't touch the rich. Quote
Guest Aunty Posted December 19, 2006 Posted December 19, 2006 A sad comentary on the state of Thailand's media and the presumption of innocence . That is as it may be, but that has nothing to do with Earwig Quote
TotallyOz Posted December 19, 2006 Posted December 19, 2006 The last time I posted on this forum, it was to praise Rainwalker's posting, which put catawampuscat in the cat house for 10 days.. LOL It was not your praising Rainwalker that put you in the cat house for 10 days, it was your cat claws which needed to be clipped. No one gets put on suspension or moderated status for praising someone. Silly Cat. That will probably happen again as I praise Gaybutton for his remarks and the obvious end of his personal tolerance towards the plagiarist and his henchman..Bravo and Ole!! I thought the message of the season was peace and happiness? No??? Well, I have said my piece and will return to the bliss of voluntary retirement from this forum and back to my pursuits of happiness and pleasure...whoppee.. Sometimes I feel like this is like Whack a Mole. I retire. No I don't. Yes, I do. In any case, we all wish you luck in your pursuits of happiness and pleasure. Quote
Gaybutton Posted December 19, 2006 Posted December 19, 2006 That will probably happen again as I praise Gaybutton for his remarks and the obvious end of his personal tolerance towards the plagiarist and his henchman..Bravo and Ole!! I appreciate that, Catawampuscat, but the truth is I do believe that Ear Wig has the capability of providing all of us with valuable information and if he does that without the constant childish nonsense, the present perception of him held by so many would vanish. The problem I have with him is the methods by which he provides his information. I know this applies to me, and I think it applies to the majority of people who visit the web sites on which he writes . . . we can do without the bragging, name dropping, self-aggrandizement, the attempts to convince people he has access to information that others cannot get, the putting down of others, the threats, and all the rest that is consistent with his posts. I can even live with the poor spelling and grammar. If he would simply post his information, as the rest of us do, without having to constantly convince people he is some kind of a big shot, then I believe he would be an asset to any board upon which he chooses to post. I believe he has more of a need to convince himself rather than the rest of us. As I said on a post I wrote on Baht-Stop, few people appreciate the constant postings of a braggart. I would prefer to feel respect for and good will toward him rather than the feelings I have at present. If he'll simply leave out all the posturing, then I believe instead of all the animosity he'll gain all the admiration and respect he seems to so desperately need, and he'll have it without feeling the need to say it all the time. Quote
khaolakguy Posted December 19, 2006 Posted December 19, 2006 Surprisingly, perhaps to both of us, I agree completely with your comments on how Earwig could be an asset if........................but it's a big ask. Quote
Guest rainwalker Posted December 19, 2006 Posted December 19, 2006 I too belive that LMTU/Earwig can make positive contributions to the community that gathers at these agoras and I concur with GB whole heartedly. I actually want him to continue posting with, natch, the same caveats. khaolakguy does have a point about it being a big ask and this may amplify his concern... The Saying: CAN THE LEOPARD CHANGE HIS SPOTS? Who Said It: Jeremiah When: 700 B.C. The Story behind It: Found in the Old Testament (Jer. 13:23), these words are spoken by the Hebrew prophet Jeremiah. He tells the people of Jerusalem-personified in the form of a shepherdess-that the city will soon be attacked by an enemy from the north. The shepherdess, a vile and hopeless creature, has been deserted by her family and friends. Jeremiah implores the woman to give up her evil ways and live according to God's laws. The prophet realizes, however, that it might be impossible for the woman to heed his warning. He says: "Can the Ethiopian change his skin, or the leopard his spots? then may ye also do good, that are accustomed to do evil." ... from The Trivia Library Quote
Guest tdperhs Posted December 19, 2006 Posted December 19, 2006 GayThailand has not only a right but a responsibility to protect this forum. It is his property. So my comments are not directed to any action taken in that objective. However, I am directing my remarks to those who began this feeding frenzy on a poster because of his violation of rules against plagiarism and copyright laws. I would remind you that if you are in Thailand, or indeed have visited Thailand in the past year, you have more than likely stocked up on video and musical CDs and DVDs and loaded your hard drive with an ample supply of pirated software. I know I have. And I suspect that these copyright infringements are far more costly to the originators of the material than the information under question was to Pattaya People. If anyone has a b**** with EarWig vis-a-vis this topic, it is only the moderators of this forum. I do not know the individual but I do believe he was at best was imprudent at putting someone else at risk. As for those casting stones, better watch out! There may be one headed your way. Quote
Guest Pearl69er Posted December 23, 2006 Posted December 23, 2006 Sometimes you are a compete dunce GayButton : "Gooooood! I see you're quickly moving toward the dark side of the force. Last month you were the leading authority on libel law. This month you're the leading authority on journalism" I have never claimed to be the "leading authority " on anything but I do claim to have of knowledge of both subjects you mention after over 30 years in the business. It does make me wonder when posters like you ( and Hedda elsewhere) continually slam anyone who hovers near these boards and are treated to pathetic put-downs because they may express some knowledge. It just says more about you and the people you wish to keep the company of ie: perhaps you would prefer the intellectually challenged over who you can hold a superior sway. And finally we have someone putting into perfect perspective the utter pathetic campaign and waffle we have been treated to on Earwig's so-called "plagiarism". tdperhs has put it beautifully and better than I. I defy any of the dotty farangs banging on about this subject to deny they have never purchased a stolen copyrighted product in Thailand whether it be a fake designer t-shirt, a dodgy Rolex watch or DVD. indeed in every go-go bar you visit you are proabaly listening to pirated music while you choose which dancer you are going to off. By doing so you prop up this illegal trade. I personally attended an evening many months ago at the Bondi hotel/bar in the Jomtien complex and watched a loveable English drag queen sign off with her signature tune "You Don't Have To Say You Love Me ". ..the famous Dusty Springfield/Elvis Presley hit. With me was the writer of that song, Simon Napier Bell, a Pattaya resident and when I asked how much he still received in royalties..."not a penny from Asia" was his reply. And that's how it is in everything in Thailand as everyone knows and every farang participates in this plaigarism of intellectual property even when they don't know they are. Quote
Gaybutton Posted December 23, 2006 Posted December 23, 2006 Sometimes you are a compete dunce GayButton : Well, golly gee. And all this time I thought I was an incomplete dunce. Quote