The Morning After

[Guest ronnie4you]

An elevator full of people were witness this morning to a lack of communication between a farang and his overnite date. Farang was all dressed for business, and his Thai friend was more casual. At this particular hotel, the breakfast room is on the second floor. The lobby and the exit are on the first floor. We all rode down together and the elevator stopped at 2, where Mr. farang exited. His Thai friend followed, but Mr. Farang soon noticed and had to explain to him that the date was over. Apparently breakfast was not included for two. The entire elevator seemed aware of the embarrassing situation as the Thai guy returned to exit on the first floor.

Message: Tell the guy if you be parting on separate floors!

[Alexx]

That's very bad form and not at all gentlemanlike. At the very least, said farang could have walked his "visitor" out, it would have cost him less than five minutes - time well spent.

[vinapu]

That's very bad form and not at all gentlemanlike. At the very least, said farang could have walked his "visitor" out, it would have cost him less than five minutes - time well spent.

I will be blunt - big time assholish behavior.

 

Sure, there's no obligation to treat our companions with breakfast  but there are nice solutions, either one you suggested to escort him to the street level or simply send boy his way, wait few minutes and go to the dining room alone.

 

Quite possible there's something else to the story. I almost always off long time  and never ever had situation that boy suggested or invited himself to accompany me to a breakfast and this includes boys who were offed previously and knew that breakfast will be offered as is my custom unless I'm not happy with a boy for some reason.   

 

Anyways , even if that was miscommunication farang should show class and treat boy with breakfast unless there was very good reason not too. Obviously he was not embarrassed to be seen in boy's company.

[spoon]

I guess he treat the boy as just paid sex worker rather than human. That is one awkward situation that can easily be avoided.

[Dalewood]

Any overnight guest of mine is offered breakfast, period.

[ggobkk]

Agree with Vinapu, Dalewood, Spoon, and Alexx.  Vinapu is succinct:

 

I will be blunt - big time assholish behavior.

 

 

[vinapu]

Any overnight guest of mine is offered breakfast, period.

I generally like to dine with my boys before and after the long time 'meeting' but I'd skip breakfast part if boy is first to say he wants to go or makes fuss about compensation.

 

On another hand they are being kind of invited  since if they ask how long is long , answer inevitably would be  ' till breakfast".

 

Recall one such a case when I was not happy in the morning and made it clear ,boy still had a nerve to ask about promised breakfast and I decided to cut him off with ' I'm not hungry" but at least this was behind closed doors.

[ChristianPFC]

I will be blunt - big time assholish behavior.

 

Without knowing the full story (even the OP doesn't know the full story), I wouldn't call anyone names.

 

Compare this case:

http://www.bangkokpost.com/print/1156857/

The 'thieves' whose story got stolen After two Hmong hill tribe girls were accused of stealing a watch by the media, little was done to clear up the false accusations

 

My most awkward "morning after" was in 2013. I had a boy overnight and we took bus back to Silom. On the bus, it turned out that we are going to leave at different stops. And I hadn't paid the boy! Even worse, we both were standing, so I had to keep balance, get the notes out of my wallet and hand them to the boy in a full bus. He SMSed me afterwards that this was embarrassing (for me as well).

 

I have an elevator story as well. In Paris, I visited an acquaintance from sauna at his place, and upon leaving he asked me to take elevator up one floor and then down to ground floor, so nobody will know I'm coming from his floor.

[abidismaili]

On the bus, it turned out that we are going to leave at different stops. And I hadn't paid the boy! 

 

So strange how this can happen. I always pay the boy immediately - or as good as immediately - after sex. Because I want to prevent him thinking "did he forget to pay me? will he pay me? why he not give money now?"

 

You had your boy long in suspense. It is rude. Any well behaved human being pays fast after delivery. For me totally incomprehensible this behavior. if you yourself were to deliver a service, you would want to wait long for the promised money or even have reason to believe the money will not arrive?

[Travellerdave]

I usually take boys longtime and find that the manner of their departure varies. Some can't wait to depart after being paid and on the other hand sometimes it's hard to get them out of bed and on their way and they want to continue kissing and cuddling. The offer of breakfast is sometimes necessary to get them out.

I generally accompany them to recover their ID card and at the exit door a goodbye kiss is often called for.

Looking forward to me next trip in Late February.

[vinapu]

I have an embarrassing story of my own,

 

in the morning I realized that previous night I did not exchange money  and have almost empty pocket. Left boy in the room explaining my poverty and went to nearest ATM to take some money out , my card was not accepted ! fortunately there was another , more user friendly,  nearby.

My idiocy cost me an extra 180 baht in unnecessary ATM fees.

 

Boy's alleged  stress was compensated next time - I gave him money up front.

 

I too always accompany boy downstairs to retrieve ID card but would not dare to suggest good bye kiss in the lobby even in BBB Inn and the likes. Just a handshake and thank you , good bye.

[Guest ryanasia]

Hmmm If he paid the date the date should leave. The money boy got his money and should leave. Probably trying to negotiate being paid for breakfast. The guys here are a bit clingy i assume the business man paid him in the room.

 

Nothing further to add. 

 

Okay one final thought.... if you want to avoid this always put the boy out 15 minutes before you go. Never get into the lift together.

[kokopelli]

So strange how this can happen. I always pay the boy immediately - or as good as immediately - after sex. Because I want to prevent him thinking "did he forget to pay me? will he pay me? why he not give money now?"

 

st after delivery. For me totally incomprehensible this behavior. if you yourself were to deliver a service, you would want to wait long for the promised money or even have reason to believe the money will not arrive?

Mistakes happen! Recently forgot to pay the boy upon departure and, at the exit, he said, "you not pay me ?" Sure felt like a real fool and added an extra 500 to save some face.

[Guest abang1961]

I believe it is pure manners to explain things in advance.

 

I have been in this boy's situation where my fucker of the night did not want to have breakfast with me due to an early office appointment.  At least for me, I was smart enough to discuss this matter before leaving the room.  Sometimes, these men are just too shy to be seen with an Asian.  I don't blame them cos they may have their business associate/colleague at the breakfast place and it would be difficult for them to explain.  

 

In the event that he does not want to be seen with me, it is fine that I take the elevator either earlier or later.  It is no big deal for me as I had fulfilled my sexual needs last night...perhaps that calls for a repeat tonight!  

[ChristianPFC]

So strange how this can happen. I always pay the boy immediately - or as good as immediately - after sex. Because I want to prevent him thinking "did he forget to pay me? will he pay me? why he not give money now?"

 

You had your boy long in suspense. It is rude. Any well behaved human being pays fast after delivery. For me totally incomprehensible this behavior. if you yourself were to deliver a service, you would want to wait long for the promised money or even have reason to believe the money will not arrive?

 

I usually pay when we part. In most cases that is at my room door, in the case above on the bus (I just didn't think ahead that in my room would be the better place to pay).

 

Happened with another boy as well (in 2011). We went out for lunch and there it turned out he would not come back with me to my room. Handed him the money under the table. Since then (2013), I haven't had such mishaps.

 

Another similar story from my early years (2009-2013, after one full year 2013 in Thailand I figured out what's going on). I walked past Malaysia hotel and a boy there said hello and asked where I'm going. "Waiting for taxi to Silom". "Oh, I go to Silom, too." "Then you can come with me." My idea was just to give him a free ride, but he thought it was an invitation and was following me until I made clear that I will spend the evening without him.

[Vessey]

I always try and offer breakfast and mostly the offer is accepted and I use the check-bin change to also offer a little taxi money.

 

My hotel is not in a gay area of Pattaya and at least one of my regulars prefers to have breakfast brought to the room  instead of going down to the restaurant below. 

 

The offer of breakfast is not just mannerly on my part, I really don't like to eat alone. And anyway, unless their English is almost non-existent, it is an opportunity to learn a little more about their life and family. I am always pleasantly surprised just how many of my barfines are more than happy to open-up about their village/town and family life. 

[Guest]

The lift incident seems to be badly handled, but we have only seen one side of it.

 

I always try to pay discretely in the room.

 

For long time guests, I offer them breakfast, although it can be difficult to find somewhere that offers spicy Thai food for him and a healthy meat free option for me.

 

I still fondly remember the look of disgust from some hag in Phnom Penh, as my lad joined me for breakfast in his tight white shorts and sleeveless white top. Nothing was said, but since he was the best English speaker I've encountered out there, he would have had a good answer.

[steveboy]

After my only off, a short-term one in PTT Ambiance, I went down with the boy and saw that he checked out at the desk and said goodbye at the entrance.  But my courtesy once failed at Babylon after a night where I had fun with a Thai boy who came to my room and later left, and in the morning I saw him at a table by himself in the breakfast room.  Instead of joining him in friendly conversation I sat with my usual buddies at another table.  After this, anyone I had good sex with I will treat like a friend when I run into him.  

[vinapu]

 After this, anyone I had good sex with I will treat like a friend when I run into him.  

after all we were much more intimate with those boys than with all our friends and family members so we can't see them as strangers even if we met them only briefly

[bkkguy]

I usually prefer short time rather then overnight, but I suppose that depends on where you are staying - not so important in Boys Town but if you are in Jomtien and having your adventures at (on?) Poseidon then there's got to be a morning after, at least according to some, even it does turn into a disaster:

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcLazPauA1c

 

bkkguy

[Guest abang1961]

Really what is a few hundred bahts to us, the visitors?

Buying some one a meal is indeed a very gracious act.

As for my part, I am the one who imitates breakfast and I am the one fighting to pay! 

It seems that no one bothers to offer me a FREE meal..ha ha

 

Thanks bkkguy for that wonderful memory of the 70s.. I was in my junior high when the movie came.

And that was also about the same time I discovered the charm of white men..aka Gene Hackman

 

[Guest]

Really what is a few hundred bahts to us, the visitors?

Buying some one a meal is indeed a very gracious act.

The cost isn't the problem. The more difficult issue is finding a restaurant that satisfies our completely different dietary needs.

 

Worst example was when a boy who got up & decided we should look for breakfast at 7:30 am.

The only place open was McDonalds, which I refused to go into. Eventually the boat opened at 8:00 & we had breakfast.

That was the last time I saw him. He was showing the evidence of eating too much since our previous encounter 2 years earlier and I don't get up at that time on holiday.

[Guest abang1961]

**Sorry I dont own the following place but I would like to recommend it to anyone and everyone interested.

 

 

Hi peeps at Pattaya,

I found a simple solution in Apex Hotel's Breakfast.

For 150 baht, there is a rather splendid buffet spread.

I like the food there cos it is a hybrid - infusing Asian taste with Western delights.

There is the usual egg, bacon and muffin for the farangs and Thai dishes for the locals.

 

** Breakfast starts from 6.30 am and ends at 12.30 pm.

There is no more excuses for skipping breakfast.. in fact, eat at 11 am till 12.15 pm.

This brunch will keep you fulfilled (in the stomach) till dinner time.

And yes, they do serve dinner buffet at 250 baht.

[steveboy]

**Sorry I dont own the following place but I would like to recommend it to anyone and everyone interested.

 

Well, it seems like a nice place for someone hungry and on a budget,  as seen in this video:

 

 

and within reasonable walk when staying at boys town.