Bangkok/Yangon/Bagan/Mandalay Trip Report: Playing With Fire

[vinapu]

.....one of the reasons why I haven't felt encouraged to post my last TR from January.

reading your post I was about to ask you but now you answered my question.

 

Perhaps you can take some pills and put your report together for us after all?

[steveboy]

But there is a bit of a lesson for us all here.  Most of us wouldn't post a clear photo showing ourselves surrounded by money boys and describing it as such.  The same principle should surely apply to photos of other people, unless they specifically said it was ok to do so.

 

You think that we are in need of a lesson and  that you are qualified to teach it.

 

Please, please, please let's afford the people we come across in Thailand with the respect and dignity we might like to receive ourselves.

 

Here is why your teaching may not be appropriate:  somehow you think that members of this forum need to be lectured about treating others with more respect and dignity, like we don't have our own moral standards. You don't take into consideration that we are not young Thai models, money boys with at least some gay lifestyle displayed in public.

 

A more appropriate moral rule is:  I should deal with the picture of another person not like it is OF ME, but like I would IF I WAS THE PERSON IN THE PICTURE. 

 

For example, I would feel hurt if someone posts a nude picture of me in the thread "Some Model Photoshots".  Yet I post all the time pictures from professional models and amateurs who have them taken to be exhibited and promoted, and I am confident that they are in agreement... like I would be if I were in their shoes.

[steveboy]

Perhaps you can take some pills and put your report together for us after all?

 

I'm curious.  What pills would you recommend?

[vinapu]

I'm curious.  What pills would you recommend?

gaytripreportspirine and pattayatripstorynol, 

[steveboy]

gaytripreportspirine and pattayatripstorynol, 

 

[ggobkk]

Not sure what to say here.  I enjoy Numazu's reports and having met him and Burboy know they are a great pairing.  I've also met DivineMadman and know that he is thoughtful and one who looks out for and protects the boys.  Which is what I belive he was doing when he called the face pictures out to Numazu, who followed up by obscuring the faces.  

 

About this point, things on this post deteriorated.  

 

So I hope Numazu's suspense laden tour of the top 3000 eating places in Myanmar and Thailand continues.

[vinapu]

 

 

So I hope Numazu's suspense laden tour ..continues

you are right, now we we have a suspense , mother of all suspenses and all we can do it's just wait for a development

[numazu]

Day 74: The Five Days That May Have Finally Stopped me from Going Back to Bangkok

 

I’m typing this right now on my flight back to California. I’m kind of bummed that I didn’t get bumped up to first class, even if I was at the top of the list of people eligible for upgrades. I guess United Economy Plus will have to do for now. The middle-aged couple who sat next to me were fun though.  We recounted our respective holidays to each other. When they found out I was gay they got excited, and asked me about what gay-specific activities I did. I told them as much as I could without scaring them with the more risqué parts of my vacation. They seemed to love my sanitized stories so much that they paid for my $7.99 rum and coke that United was selling. A great ending to an amazing and quick holiday.

 

I spent the last five days in Puerto Vallarta, Mexico, basically drinking margaritas, eating tacos, and hitting the beach.  The five days have been a blur. It was spent mostly with 6 of my good friends and my BF hanging out, taking advantage of the sun and beach and sea, the food and culture and shopping, the drinking and gay nightlife and fun. Like Myanmar, I did not know what Puerto Vallarta was about, except that it was in Mexico and there was a lot beach and sun. I was surprised that there was a lot gay businesses in this little city, as well as a lot of gay activities to fill the time. There’s easily 20+ gay bars, dance clubs, saunas and strip clubs, as well as gay-dominated gay resorts and gay parts of the beach. With all these options, the fie days weren't enough.

 

I’m not about to tell you guys all the details about my time with my friends. But I can say that it was fun, there was a birthday party for two of my friends, we all got stinking drunk every night, some of us got sunburned, bad, and all the other things you expect in a long weekend in a resort town with 7 good friends. My BF was only there for three of the nights that were over the weekend. We did couples things, had fun at the hotel room, and we all got caught up with our friends, who now live far from us. He left last Sunday to be back to work on Monday. I stayed two more nights with 3 of the friends who could stay longer.  I now have some alone time to do more “single guy” activities. My friends know about my open relationship. So we decided to check out the gay strip club Wet Dreams.

 

I’ve always thought that Bangkok’s sex industry was unique. The city has brothels that were one-stop-shops: you can have a drink, sit down and watch a show, and get boys to sleep with you for a fee. There was nowhere else like it in the world that has that kind of complete service. Puerto Vallarta certainly did not have all of this, so I went into the strip club keen on just having a good time with my friends, and perv on the nice looking Latino boys in the club.

 

Four of us had a delicious Mexican dinner and then some drinks or 3 at the always busy gay bar Mr. Flamingo. The drinks were approximately $5 each, more expensive than what you get in Bangkok, but still cheaper than what we are used to paying back home. We were all well lubricated when we hit Wet Dreams the gay strip club. No cover charge at the door, just a lone doorman greeting everyone who came in. We enter and the place was a little bit busy. Lots of patrons tonight, and there was a smattering of super-hot Latino boys in a variety of clothing: from tight pants, to sexy shorts, to tiny briefs. Some patrons had a drink on their hand, but some did not, so it was clear that you did not need drinks to hangout in this place.

 

My one friend, who had been here before, had told us what to expect in this club earlier over dinner. He said that the boys live on tips, so expect the boys to be aggressive. They will approach you without any invitation from you. You are not obligated to tip them if they come to you, as long as you don’t touch them. They will probably touch you and grind on you to entice you to touch them. Once you do touch them, you must tip them, minimum 20 pesos ($1). You can touch them all over, and most of the time they will guide your hand to their preferred way to be touched.

 

We get to sit in the back where the benches by the wall were, situated around the stripper pole. It seems that most of the patrons wanted to stand and drink and interact with other patrons and the boys who circulate around the club. We sit down and look around. Most of the boys were young, semi-muscular guys. Some of them were super muscular guys who would belong in Tawan. There were two boys at the stripper pole in front of us, just dancing and showing their wares. Both were tall, hunky, muscular and young Latino guys. They knew what they had, and were not afraid to show it off. Both were sporting huge bulges hiding in their shorts. My friend motions over to a waiter and we get asked our drink orders. My friend buys all of us a round of drinks, and soon we were enjoying our drinks and looking at boys.

 

I like the social aspect of this bar. Patrons were milling about, not only admiring the boys, but also talking to fellow customers who they fancy, or just being friendly. The boys, flitting from one customer to another, were by design very social as well, as they are in search of tips. There is more involvement and intermingling, and everyone was having a good time. Quite a contrast to Bangkok bars where the customers are usually passive observers of the show onstage, or the boys onstage advertising their wares. This was more my speed, and part of the reason why I prefer social settings to more passive media such as Hornet. What use is sitting alone in your room, stuck on Hornet in your iPad, trolling for your next thrill. Come hear the music play, and hang out with 80 of your best friends for the night, and 20 of the hottest boys Vallarta can offer.

 

As soon as we get comfortable, the boys see us as fresh meat and head over our direction. One boy, medium height, muscular torso, and only wearing baggy shorts, but was had the front open to reveal sexy underwear, was grinding on my friend closest to the stripper pole. My friend was feigning disinterest but I knew he was loving it. My other friend next to him pulled the stripper over to him and put a 20-peso bill in the garter of his briefs. The stripper quickly guides my friend’s hand with the money and puts it in his underwear to get my friend to feel his cock. My friend was smitten. The stripper draws in closer and my friend gets a good grope of his other assets.

 

My experienced friend gets busy quickly and finds a boy he likes. The boy was a stunner. He was tall, had fine hair on his chest, and had super giant pecs, biceps, ass and thighs. And a giant bulge hiding in his skimpy shorts. The knew what he had. He knew how he can get the most money from patrons. My friend was loving it. He starts with 20 pesos, then puts in another 20. As soon as the giant guy leaves to signal to my friend that he has had 20 pesos worth of gropes in, my friend would put in 20 pesos again. Giant guy, knowing that he had something good going with my friend, stops and talks to my friend. I wonder what they were talking about.

 

I was enjoying seeing the interaction between my friends and the boys. I look around and admire the boys from afar, not really interested in groping a boy just yet. And then I see him. He was this young, white Hispanic guy. He has a striking nose on his face, very cute and handsome at the same time. He was wearing tight pants that hugged his muscular legs. But his shirtless body was insane: he had 8-pack abs, giant biceps, and a well-defined back. He was all smiles and getting a lot of attention from the patrons just by standing there. Occasionally, a patron would go to him and get a feel of his granite torso and he would get the money and the customer would leave. He can just make a living just standing here,looking pretty,  with guys feeling up his torso.

 

He sees me looking at him, and poses and flexes for my benefit. Man, this guy was jacked. And that face was amazingly cute and boyish. I smile, and raise my martini in his direction. He heads to my direction and puts his hand on my face. He draws me close and whispers something in my ear. He tells me his name. Let’s call him MexBoy. “You like me?” I put a hand on his giant chest and say “Si!” He laughs, and then puts my hand in his underwear. I get a feel of his semi-hard uncut cock. I feel the pubic hair and the smooth balls. I get hard instantly. I reflexively take out my hand to get money out of my pocket. I find 20 pesos and I stuff it in his briefs. “Thank you, amigo,” he says. I continue to feel him up. I didn’t want him to go. I put in another 50 pesos and he stays a little longer.

 

He asks me “Buy me drink?” I say sure. He motions to the waiter, tells him his order, and the waiter says “110 pesos” to me. I pay and 5 minutes later he takes the drink over to us. MexBoy stays with me while drinking, and he and I talk. He sets his drink on the ledge behind me. He hugs me close and he lets me kiss his neck and smell his boyness. I take a big whiff. A mixture of fruity perfume and his own scent. Heavenly. The feel of my hands around his back, while I hug and hold him close, was amazing. I forget I was in public with my friends for a second. He takes a sip of his drink occasionally, and he asks me some questions about my holiday and myself. His English was passable enough to make it interesting. He would smile and laugh once in a while. His voice was boyish and musical. An amazing combination.

 

After 15 minutes of hanging out, he asks me “Private show?” I ask him what that entailed. He then explains that we go in a private booth in the back, and I can do whatever I wanted with him. He motioned to his crotch and ass, meaning that I could blow and rim him. He smiles and I hesitate for a moment. He pulls me close and kisses me deep, for 5 seconds. He pulls back and looks at my eyes and smiles, trying to gauge my reaction to the kiss. He was trying to make a sale. He was winning. I ask “How much for the show?” He says 500 pesos ($25). I look around and some of my friend were busy with either other boys or in conversations with each other or other patrons. I tell them I was going to do a private show. They encourage me to do it and in 5 minutes the waiter escorts me and MexBoy to the back.

 

On the way to the booths I see signs saying “10 minute Private Show for 500 pesos”. OK, I only have 10 minutes. We enter this booth with a couch, a side table, an egg timer and a swinging door. MexBoy sits me down the couch and closes the door. He immediately disrobes, displaying his magnificent body. The sight of his body alone was worth the $25. Everything about his 22-year-old boy was flawless. And the beautiful cock was swinging back and forth. My god this was amazing. He sits on my lap and then puts my hand on his torso. He grinds on me, gives me a slow dance on my lap, and then kisses me. While he does this, he gets hard, showing a respectably sized uncut Latin cock. I stroke it and he moans in pleasure.

 

We do this for a while. He grinds, flexes, kisses me and poses. I appreciate all the attention and perfection before me. What seems like 30 minutes passed by and I tell him, in Spanish, that I thought it was over 10 minutes now and he didn’t turn on the egg timer. He was floored that I could speak some Spanish. Those high school lessons came in handy (as well as growing up in California). He waves his hand, signaling that he didn’t care about the time. I get up and sit him down the couch. I take the encounter further and lift his giant thighs to rim him. It was as amazing as I imagine it would be. I suck him, barely taking all of him on my mouth.

 

He stands up and sits me back down. He sits his bare ass on my crotch. He grinds for a while. He then opens the front of my shorts and pulls my briefs down to reveal my hard-on. He strokes me for a while, and then bends over to kiss my cock, and then take it whole in his mouth for a second. That drove me insane. Definitely no condom with oral with him. He strokes me and he strokes and he strokes. I stop him and tell him I didn’t want to cum. He smiles and stops and kisses me instead. He then explains in English that it was not good to fuck in the booth because people may need to use it any minute. But he did say that he was available to go to my hotel room.

 

I didn’t think that was an option with him, or anyone in the strip club. I ask him when he was free to go with me. He said tomorrow is good, because he had to be at his bar till 3 AM tonight. I ask how much. He said $100 for a whole day. He then tried to sell it. He said he can stay in my hotel, we can go to lunch or dinner, we can go shopping, be my tour guide, we can drink and hangout, all for $100 a day. I was immediately sold. That was like a long-time tip for some higher end boys in Bangkok anyway. And I can tell you from experience that those boys weren’t as sensual and as much a sexual dynamite like this boy. We exchange numbers on WhatsApp. We put clothes back on. He opens the door and takes me by the hand to take me back to my friends.

 

MexBoy hangs out with me the whole time after, without asking for tips, till my friends and I were done with the club. My friends and I finally go back to the hotel, and MexBoy had to stay behind. My friends and I exchange stories about the night. It was fun, lots of laughter, as we stumble back into our hotel and our rooms. I couldn’t do all this with my BF in town. But now he was gone, I could enjoy that private show. I sleep alone pretty soundly that night.

 

What do I do the next day? I call MexBoy and he shows up in my hotel room after my brunch with friends. We hang out, alone in my hotel room having sex and being sweet to each other. I text my friends that I had to skip out beach day today because I needed to work, but really I just wanted alone time with MexBoy.  I meet my friends for dinner and drinks, telling MexBoy to come back to the room once I was done with my friends. I spent 4 hours with my friends before calling it an early night. MexBoy comes back and we continue our time together. Latinos are, generally, sensual creatures, and this boy was no exception. I could not get enough of him, and it seemed like he couldn’t get enough of me either. He stays the night, and leaves first thing in the morning. I give him a crisp $100 bill, and $10 for good measure. Money well spent. That was amazing.

 

I took a lot of photos of this 22-year-old muscular Mexican hottie. I thought about showing some photos of him on this thread. Of course I couldn’t post a photo of him fully naked and erect. That’s against board rules. I could show him in undies with a big bulge, but I guess I must blur his face, because I am not allowed on this forum to show faces of prostitutes. I could just do that, but decided against it. It is not fun to show photos on this thread anymore. It’s not fun to post anything about my trip report anymore. I find it strange that some of the threads here devolve into a circular firing squad, with members just in each other’s throat. I am amazed by the discussion about my controversial showing of faces of alleged prostitutes in a public setting. Lots of opinions flying around. It just did not feel fun for me anymore.

 

I have a Bangkok trip coming up over Songkran week. One of the things that I liked about Songkran last year was hanging out in Soi Twilight and seeing all the boys from Bangkok Massage and Hot Male beer bar and Scorpion bar and the other bars in the Soi, having fun in Songkran with water guns, and pails of water, just throwing water everywhere and to anyone that happens to go in the Soi. I took a lot of amazing photos last year of this spectacle. I was going to do it again this year (if Songkran is not subdued by mourners), but I realize that I can’t post photos of the boys doing this, because some of them are gogo boys, so I have to blur their faces. That’s not fun anymore. I am just not going to do that, and that’s why I will probably not do a trip report of that week as well.

 

So, I am at a crossroads at the moment. As much enamored as I am with Bangkok and its sex tourism industry, it only takes me three-and-a-half hours from California to get to Puerto Vallarta and get the same thing, for the same amount money. The boys are different, and probably more suited to my tastes. If MexBoy is any indication of what I can expect from Latino boys, it will be a more sensual and explosive time. I feel that the Bangkok boys are relatively more reserved. And it takes me 20+ hours just to get to Bangkok, and factor in the time difference and jetlag, and one wonders why I would want to go back to Bangkok ever again, when Mexico is just there for the relatively easy taking.

 

The trip report is the same. Why would I continue to post if I must develop a “thick skin?” Instead of changing myself, why not just stop posting online? I like being sensitive sometimes. It enables me to express myself more freely in life and in my writing. And why heavily edit my already completed report? I need to take the extra time to blur faces in my night in Fake Club, for example, where BurBoy and I met a few boys from Dream Boy, one of whom was flirting with BurBoy hard, and more sloppily as he got more drinks in him. The blurring of faces and editing of text is time consuming, so I may not just do it.  Not to mention that I am taking a chance just talking about Mexican Boys on the GayThailand forum. It might devolve into that Taipei thread. So much sniping at each other in that one. It’s exhausting.

 

The standards in which I was asked to follow is cut-and-dry. I saw my error and I corrected it before the editing time, and apologized for it. But what I see on other threads on this board is kind of confusing to me. Does this board have a problem with showing prostitute’s faces to protect their privacy? Clearly not, judging from the countless threads of sexual exploits with photos of boy with faces shown. Maybe the standard is that its not allowed to post photos without the consent of the boys? But there is a whole section devoted to Hornet reviews of boys, with photo of their faces in their unblurred glory, and there was no consent asked in sharing those photos and profiles, at least as far as i know.

 

Maybe the standard is that those Hornet boys are known to be prostitutes and are getting reviewed by posters here, and the difference with my mistake is that I am showing boys that I can only guess as prostitutes, in a public setting. But what about when posters show just random Hornet photos, urging members to try those boys’ services. There is no guarantee that they are prostitutes, and yet the posters oftentimes insinuate that they are. What about those photos belonging to fake profiles that use photos of boys that are not prostitutes, where’s the outcry in that? They don’t know their photos are getting perved on in this board. I estimate that a quarter of the profiles in gay apps are fake, and those profiles use photos of hot boys they find on Instagram or Facebook. Catfish is a real thing after all. All these standards, for me, are confusing and hard to keep up with. I guess in the end, it depends on the poster and what standard is imposed on them. Cest la vie.

 

So my April trip may be my last to Bangkok for a while. It is a huge world out there. My Mexico trip reminded me of that fact. And poor BurBoy. I may just have to end it with him sooner rather than later. The siren song of other boys, in other countries, is just too strong to overcome. I am not going to change who I am for just one amazing boy, or a few posters on this forum. I will continue to be myself, now, privately of course, as to not ruffle any more feathers. I’ll have to keep my boring stories to myself. Maybe in time I’ll share them again. But right now, you can catch me on the next flight to Mexico.

 

 

P.S. I’d like to thank those who have expressed encouragement towards me, publicly in this thread, and (way more of you) privately, through your private messages. You guys are right, there are more of you guys who read and like this drivel more than those who hate it. There are a few of those who have given me some hate, even very vicious, unnecessary, out-of-nowhere hatred. Thanks for writing me as well. You took the trouble to hate me and write about it, so I guess I am grateful for the effort and attention.  

[emailbroken]

Good to see you are back.  You shouldn't really interpret criticism as hate.  Pretty much everyone has said that your posts are enjoyable. 

[steveboy]

Day 74: The Five Days That May Have Finally Stopped me from Going Back to Bangkok

 

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So, I am at a crossroads at the moment. As much enamored as I am with Bangkok and its sex tourism industry, it only takes me three-and-a-half hours from California to get to Puerto Vallarta and get the same thing, for the same amount money. The boys are different, and probably more suited to my tastes. If MexBoy is any indication of what I can expect from Latino boys, it will be a more sensual and explosive time. I feel that the Bangkok boys are relatively more reserved. And it takes me 20+ hours just to get to Bangkok, and factor in the time difference and jetlag, and one wonders why I would want to go back to Bangkok ever again, when Mexico is just there for the relatively easy taking.

 

The trip report is the same. Why would I continue to post if I must develop a “thick skin?” Instead of changing myself, why not just stop posting online? I like being sensitive sometimes. It enables me to express myself more freely in life and in my writing. And why heavily edit my already completed report? I need to take the extra time to blur faces in my night in Fake Club, for example, where BurBoy and I met a few boys from Dream Boy, one of whom was flirting with BurBoy hard, and more sloppily as he got more drinks in him. The blurring of faces and editing of text is time consuming, so I may not just do it.  Not to mention that I am taking a chance just talking about Mexican Boys on the GayThailand forum. It might devolve into that Taipei thread. So much sniping at each other in that one. It’s exhausting.

 

The standards in which I was asked to follow is cut-and-dry. I saw my error and I corrected it before the editing time, and apologized for it. But what I see on other threads on this board is kind of confusing to me. Does this board have a problem with showing prostitute’s faces to protect their privacy? Clearly not, judging from the countless threads of sexual exploits with photos of boy with faces shown. Maybe the standard is that its not allowed to post photos without the consent of the boys? But there is a whole section devoted to Hornet reviews of boys, with photo of their faces in their unblurred glory, and there was no consent asked in sharing those photos and profiles, at least as far as i know.

 

Maybe the standard is that those Hornet boys are known to be prostitutes and are getting reviewed by posters here, and the difference with my mistake is that I am showing boys that I can only guess as prostitutes, in a public setting. But what about when posters show just random Hornet photos, urging members to try those boys’ services. There is no guarantee that they are prostitutes, and yet the posters oftentimes insinuate that they are. What about those photos belonging to fake profiles that use photos of boys that are not prostitutes, where’s the outcry in that? They don’t know their photos are getting perved on in this board. I estimate that a quarter of the profiles in gay apps are fake, and those profiles use photos of hot boys they find on Instagram or Facebook. Catfish is a real thing after all. All these standards, for me, are confusing and hard to keep up with. I guess in the end, it depends on the poster and what standard is imposed on them. Cest la vie.

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I am glad to see that you keep posting.  I think highly of your writing, and I wish I could think the same about your assertiveness. Please note the parts of your post I made bold.  To have a "thick skin" is not a must, but think of all the trouble this can save you. Instead of being so influenced by some negatives here, you could completely ignore them and follow your own mind, which a majority of us find perfectly fine, and only take into account any comment by a moderator of this site, the only person who is in a position to dictate the rules here.

 

It is unfortunate that some people want to impose their own questionable moralities without realizing that ALL OF US are already demonized by society's questionable ancient moralities and religious fantasies that consider gay sex an 'abomination', and paid gay sex a "super abomination".  You must have already some "thick skin" to have rejected the impositions of society, so you should not be too far from being able to reject the lecturing of the amateur preachers here.  If you think that you have not made any error to apologize for and instead the preachers made the error (and it seems that some have been apologetic already), we are all in agreement.  

 

I thank you for your report on Puerto Vallarta. I live in the south of the US, and this Mexican place is much, much closer than BKK.  My likeness for Latinos is only slightly less than for Asians, to the point that the difference vanishes depending on the individual.  Savings in travel time and money could make this destination as good or better value than BKK.  I would still travel to BKK however, because I think it is safer and also more different, adventurous without speaking the language. But I will plan to give Puerto Vallarta a try.  

[ozmouse]

WOW!  Talk about a turn of events!  Did not think the tale was going to turn that way...... 

 

but what a way to end it numazu.... with another sexy travel chapter that leaves us hanging for more.  But also what might be a closing chapter on the story....

 

good on you... leave us wanting more .. well some of us! 

 

(now to my private message...)

[spoon]

Dont know why people just dont leave the moderating of the forum content to the moderater. and if u really want to police the forum, send a pm to the moderator. No point posting on the thread and spark a useless arguments where no one will win... to numazu, its really up to you to do what u want, and now u make me want to go to mexico lol. My one regret when i studied in the states was not to travel to any South American countries, but the US itself is a rather big country to travel for my limited time/budget.

[ChristianPFC]

That was quite a trip, thank you for sharing. I was wondering if it should be in Thailand or Myanmar, and now Mexico as well!

 

A friend once said "Heineken export is the lowest common denominator in world-wide taste of beer", and I apply this to my writing: the day everyone applauds me, I will stop because I have become bland. Every now and then, I like to offend the easily offended, ignorant and hypocrites!

 

Nobody should take criticism on this forum too serious. People have different sensibilities, I didn't pay any further thought the pictures from the disco, other than checking if anyone is my type.

[ggobkk]

With more than 35,000 views of this post, Numazu, your reports are read, valued, and enjoyed...while there was a circular firing squad, you did not get in the circle.  Write on, when you want, about what you want.  

 

As you mention, you will be back in Bangkok in April for Songkran - a time to enjoy, participate, take photos (for self and/or others) - see what time brings...hopefully some more joy in making reports.  

[Guest Chris35]

wow, what a post.. was just planning to read roughly over it due to the Myanmar-topic I was interested in, but finally spent half office day at reading it . Great stuff, thanks.

[Creditisdue]

Numazu, I hope you reconsider and continue with your trip report. At your leisure of course. Or maybe you can continue this thread with the 5 days you spent in Mexico. We appreciate all the hard work you put in this epic report.

[Guest RickSJ]

Your report on Mexico trip is very tempting.

I'm thinking of canceling bangkok trip and heading to Mexico instead. $5 drink and $100 for long time are cheaper than in Bangkok.

[vinapu]

, but finally spent half office day at reading it . 

nice to know there are  still people busy at work

[vinapu]

great , entertaining and yet instructive report, true gem of this forum produced using enormous amount of effort and time.

 

Yet perhaps you worked too hard and got tired  with entertaining us,  leading to overreaction to mildly expressed disagreement with your method of reporting and allowing yourself to abort if on quite a bitter note.

 

You should and deserve to treat yourself better as getting upset about  matters far from fundamental does nothing to your well being and only speeds up graying and wrinkling process.

 

Have  a few days rest and finish up what you started here with such  a success , otherwise your consciousness will be tainted by leaving  work not completed and readers orphaned   

[Creditisdue]

Yet perhaps you worked too hard and got tired with entertaining us, leading to overreaction

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Why do people say this. Saying someone is over-reacting is guaranteed to insult and anger them when you tell them they shouldn't be feeling the way they do. There is no better way to escalate an argument into a war than to tell someone their feelings should be like yours, or to judge someone’s feelings as inappropriate.

 

Don't believe me? Try telling someone who's already pissed off at you that they're overreacting. They almost always never calm down, or even want to hear what you have to say after that.

[steveboy]

Have  a few days rest and finish up what you started here with such  a success ... 

 

Numazu, you can start by posting all the pictures you want of the 22 year old Mexican hottie without blurring any faces. If it was far fetched the concern that a Thai gogo boy would read lengthy posts on this forum written in English,  one can be confident that Mexican money boys don't read a Thai forum IN ENGLISH.

[bucknaway]

I'm going to cross my fingers and hope to read more from numazu.... if not here, maybe somewhere else?

[Guest Stewart]

 A sense of dread for what lay ahead was in the air, as well as the fear bidding our inevitable farewell that we had to endure as two people who were inhabitants of two totally different worlds, meeting in a sort of third “intermediate” world that Thailand was, where it was easy to think that the two weeks I just had was real. It wasn’t, it never is real. The only real thing about the past two weeks is the feeling of the heartache that follows.

I thank you for your reports and much valued information on Myanmar.

 

I quote above from your opening paragraphs on your original report. This to me is the most profound statement that I have heard in years and simply put made me realise that actually I want to live in the "intermediate world" that Thailand is but it will be my world and the weeks and years to come will be real and there will be no more heartache. Thankfully I am now in a position to make this so.

 

If you should ever, in the future, be any where near Sun Bar Jomtien Complex I would like to buy you a drink and if I am not there please put it on my tab.

 

Thanks and good luck for the rest of your travels.

[reader]

Although we didn't realize it at the time, and perhaps nor did Numazu, that a wonderful yet painful story was unfolding. I believe the vast majority of us have experienced at least one departure from Suvarnabhumi or Don Mueang where we had emotions similar to those that he shared.

 

Many here, myself included, prize our butterfly status. And most the time, it's a reasonable--indeed necessary--way to approach our time there. Not often, but every now and then, we experience a disconcerting twinge in our gut as our plane races down the runway.  We are all too well aware of the cause and very much want the time to pass rapidly until the flight attendant asks what we'd like to drink.

 

That's the stuff we almost always omit from trip reports. It's goes to a place we'd prefer to keep to ourselves.  Numazu did not and that, in the end, made all the difference in the pleasure we took from his writing. We were cheering for a happy ending and the promise of tales of future adventures. 

 

It's clear that he had a great time in Puerto Vallarta. But with all that behind him, the inevitable rendering of the heart replaced what was a gay man's adventure of a lifetime compressed into a matter of weeks. He's told us that he'll soon be returning and we selfishly hope to persuade him to keep us in the loop. But I suspect it won't be that simple for him. I understand if he's more guarded, more protective now.  Once you open yourself emotionally to close friends or total strangers, it's easy to be hurt.

[firecat69]

I'm in full agreement with all of members who hope you continue to post. I'm not going to tell you not to pay attention to the negative comments but rather feel comfortable that the overwhelming number of both members and especially non- members appreciate the work and the way you tell the story.

 

You need to realize that your stories get 1000's of view and most of them are not members and will never be able to show their appreciation for brightening their lives if only in stories.

 

I have never understood any reason not to post photos and as long as you adhere to the no cock or hole views you will be adhering to the rules. There are some members who balk at a photo when the same boy has photos all over the internet, If they have photos on Romeo, Hornet, Jack'd etc they should expect anyone can see them as well as copy them.