Popular Post DivineMadman Posted January 2, 2017 Popular Post Posted January 2, 2017 King Spa - Bottom Line: Skip It. In the process of updating my BKK massage review guide, which brought me back to King Spa, which is by the Bang Chak BTS station on the Sukhumwit line. Last year I had good experiences and good reports, and I've pretty much been a booster, although I recall one forum member reporting inconsistent experiences. My guy from last year is gone, so I booked someone different. Lest anyone think I only give positive reviews - this was not a particularly good experience. King Spa is a bit of a walk from the BTS station, but there's no traffic so it's quite pleasant. The house is fine. Massage room large, big mat on floor, shower in room. I was on time, but had to wait a bit for the masseur - typical BKK time. Not a big deal. If you don't book ahead based on pics you select from the guys in a room with a glass wall by the entrance. When I'm in "reviewing" mode I tend to be go-with-the flow, let's see how it goes when the masseur is calling the shots. In the first instance I think it's fair to judge a shop on their terms. I also usually start with 90 minute massages - just to see if the shop will fill the whole 90 minutes or do you often get cut short. Masseur wore sarong/pants throughout. The massage was ok, if a bit gentle, but I got the feeling pretty quickly that the guy wasn't a particularly well-trained or good massage (or maybe didn't care). Just basics. (BTW- lack of training or poor massage skills aren't the end of the world for me - enthusiasm will, for me, make up for a lot.) Not too far into the massage (20 mins?) he gave up on my back and legs and had me flip over. So the inner me starts wondering if we'll even get to a full hour, much less 90 minutes, or maybe he was more "let's get the massage over with and move on the the fun stuff" guy. A little attention to the legs then quickly starts massaging my junk. All well and good. I am happy. Then he switches to oral - very skilled. I am very happy. After a few minutes of that he lay down next to me and starts a very slow tantalizing hand job. I'm ok. This could be really great. This goes on for about 5 minutes and I am thinking to myself, "Very interesting, sort of tantric experience. I like." Then he falls asleep. Seriously. I decide I'm a cool guy; this is oddly intimate; I'll go with the flow. So I relax with him in my arms. I feel kind of proud of myself, because not everyone would put up with this. And I think to myself the prelims were really good, and surely it would all end happily, so ok. And isn't it great he's so comfortable he can just sleep. That's pretty much it for the next forty minutes. I slowly massage his back. All is right in the world He stirs. A little cuddle. And then he says "Up. Times up." Seriously. He tells me I can shower and goes off. I do shower. There's no tea or water or anything. I make my way to the door and pay and say I don't know where the boy went and give the manager the tip. Rather than complain at the time, which gets messy and language difficulties can easily make things worse, out in the soi I pop a quick note on Line saying that the experience was bad, the boy did nothing but sleep for 40 minutes, and no happy ending. Read, but no reply. For me that's the real problem. Everyone is entitled to bad day, and maybe a bad masseur (although this guy has been working there for a long time) - they're quick to respond to booking requests but can't be bothered to reply to complaints even with a simple "sorry you had a bad time, next time better" means a management problem as well as a masseur problem. Truth is had they responded to my note I probably would not have written this, but I would have stopped mentioning them as a place to go. So the good news is I get a pretty good story out of it, even if I do feel a but taken advantage of. The better news is that there are already so many other massage shops in town that I really like that I can cross King Spa off the list without worry, and direct my energy and budget to more satisfying places. ct2005, vinapu, Moses and 9 others 12 Quote
vinapu Posted January 3, 2017 Posted January 3, 2017 it is quite a story but I wouldn't cross them out that fast . After all your first experience was a good one. Strange that he disappeared and did not bother with collecting his tip, perhaps he knew it was not a great session. I was falling asleep during massage few times but a boy? Did not feel well, who knows but they should handle it as you suggested. I had once go-go boy falling asleep almost immediately in the room but he had great body left for me to explore and it was long time off so we still had time for mutual fun when he woke up. We should thank you for a warning DivineMadman 1 Quote
steveboy Posted January 3, 2017 Posted January 3, 2017 After 25 minutes with you the masseur falls asleep... while giving you a slow hand job ??... Hmmm, I would not be very proud of this. Either he was terribly tired, which would be strange, or he got terribly bored with nothing exciting to do! You have the patience of Job to wait 40 minutes of this. I would have turned the roles around, taken off his pants and given him a good massage of his junk until the had a happy ending and then asked him to do the same to me. In any case, thank you for the warning about this place. I will scratch off King Spa too. I will try other places as soon as I decide to go for massages, which I don't like very much, but I would not refuse a happy ending. a447a and DivineMadman 2 Quote
ct2005 Posted January 3, 2017 Posted January 3, 2017 I thought maybe the boy is tired or something. If he is apologetic, I think he could be forgiven n with less tips. However, the phrase "up, times up" seems to suggest otherwise. He was alert enough to wake up at the correct time to end the massage. His tone of voice n his choice of words may be what is most annoying. ChristianPFC and DivineMadman 2 Quote
DivineMadman Posted January 3, 2017 Author Posted January 3, 2017 Yes. I think he was probably tired but he knew full well that he got away with doing a very bad job and he didn't care. Maybe just tired from New Years fun, but in a service business customers get to judge based on the service provided. Quote
anddy Posted January 3, 2017 Posted January 3, 2017 your review begs one question though: you complain that he slept for 40 minutes, which is a legitimate complaint, BUT why on earth didn't you wake him up sooner? Say after 5 minutes max? If you let him sleep that long you can complain about his falling asleep at all, but not the duration of his sleep I'd say..... ChristianPFC 1 Quote
DivineMadman Posted January 3, 2017 Author Posted January 3, 2017 your review begs one question though: you complain that he slept for 40 minutes, which is a legitimate complaint, BUT why on earth didn't you wake him up sooner? Say after 5 minutes max? If you let him sleep that long you can complain about his falling asleep at all, but not the duration of his sleep I'd say..... I re-read what I''d written earlier, and I think I explained exactly what was going on in my head. I wrote: "I decide I'm a cool guy; this is oddly intimate; I'll go with the flow. So I relax with him in my arms. I feel kind of proud of myself, because not everyone would put up with this. And I think to myself the prelims were really good, and surely it would all end happily, so ok. And isn't it great he's so comfortable he can just sleep. That's pretty much it for the next forty minutes. I slowly massage his back. All is right in the world He stirs. A little cuddle." So I actually went out of the way in my review to explain exactly what I was thinking and the words I used to describe the nap period are actually quite positive. I found it oddly intimate and ok, but I as I explained, I was expecting that at a full service M4M massage shop that I would still get the happy ending. Now - as to why I put that in my note to the manager, it is because, as I wrote, not everyone would really like it if the masseur naps for any time AND and then doesn't take the 5 minutes (or in my case, often much less ) to give the usual happy ending. And, as I noted, the real "complaint" that led to the posting of the negative review was management's failure even to acknowledge my feedback, which I think is a sign of poor management. Of course, a little mutual napping after a successful happy ending is 100% ok in book. anddy 1 Quote
Guest finally Posted January 3, 2017 Posted January 3, 2017 So if I understand you correctly....the boy fell asleep...no HE...why did y leave a tip at the manager?. I would have left the boy sleeping and simply gone out of the shop , just paying the costs of the massage. It s the problem of the boy when he obviously is not interested in his customer at all. BTW I consider myself to be a generous guy but I would not accept this "service" Quote
DivineMadman Posted January 3, 2017 Author Posted January 3, 2017 So if I understand you correctly....the boy fell asleep...no HE...why did y leave a tip at the manager?. I would have left the boy sleeping and simply gone out of the shop , just paying the costs of the massage. It s the problem of the boy when he obviously is not interested in his customer at all. BTW I consider myself to be a generous guy but I would not accept this "service" I think if I had walked out without any tip I would have had to lie to the manager saying I had tipped, not something I like doing, and then I certainly would have expected the manager and masseur to come chasing after me for the tip when they discover that I hadn't tipped, which then would have led to a confrontation and harsh words in different languages and difficult communication and not worth it to me. My orgasm is just not that important. And then the story becomes more one about when is it ok to refuse to tip. And, perhaps even more importantly, if during the process the thought of not tipping seriously crossed my mind then it would absolutely have been my responsibility to tell the masseur during the process. And just because the ending wasn't happy, doesn't mean I didn't enjoy much of it. As I've noted, I was in a happy head space. During massages I only regularly complain about the a/c being too cold and if the masseur is ripping my calves apart. I am sure in Japan there are probably special motels where you can pay people just to sleep in in your arms. I mean even try that some day.... vinapu, 1moRussian and anddy 3 Quote
vinapu Posted January 3, 2017 Posted January 3, 2017 ... you can pay people just to sleep in in your arms. I mean even try that some day.... go for it, been there , done that, well not entirely because there's always morning , but mostly and I remember if fondly DivineMadman 1 Quote
Guest abang1961 Posted January 5, 2017 Posted January 5, 2017 I have not been to this spa but resting after sex is quite normal. Most times, I cuddle my partner for some 5 to 10 minutes. I enjoy sharing the body heat and the afterglow of a good fucking session. However sleeping on the job is really something new.. Quote
vinapu Posted January 6, 2017 Posted January 6, 2017 However sleeping on the job is really something new.. obviously you never worked night shift paulsf 1 Quote
1moRussian Posted January 6, 2017 Posted January 6, 2017 I happen to be subscribed to King Spa's Line channel (although never been there) - some new workforce for spicing the trend vinapu 1 Quote
vinapu Posted January 7, 2017 Posted January 7, 2017 I wonder if he is Leo, former employee of now defunct Magnolia in Pattaya, certainly face and chest hair looks familiar to those tired eyes. Quote
1moRussian Posted January 7, 2017 Posted January 7, 2017 I knew, you will like the photo The name is 'bpakor(n)', if I am correct in reading vinapu 1 Quote
DivineMadman Posted January 7, 2017 Author Posted January 7, 2017 same guy is on Hornet name Lee Quote
ct2005 Posted January 7, 2017 Posted January 7, 2017 He looks good! Let's not dismiss King Spa just yet. Quote
DivineMadman Posted January 7, 2017 Author Posted January 7, 2017 or skip the spa and just book him directly on hornet... ct2005 and 1moRussian 2 Quote
vinapu Posted January 8, 2017 Posted January 8, 2017 same guy is on Hornet name Lee I checked Magnolia post on this forum which still has some pictures and I was wrong with name , it was Lee , no Leo , but right he is the same boy. 1moRussian 1 Quote
Guest blueshrimp Posted January 13, 2017 Posted January 13, 2017 Kings Spa cam be dissapointing. Had one visit with nothing but brief massage. But have never been disappointed at Men101 in Lad Praow. Quote
GWMinUS Posted April 23, 2017 Posted April 23, 2017 I am sure in Japan there are probably special motels where you can pay people just to sleep in in your arms. I mean even try that some day.... HAHAHA, you do not have to go to Japan for that. Here in Santa Fe, NM a woman advertises "Holding" as her Service. Have not seen what she charges for her "tip"... vinapu 1 Quote
a447a Posted April 23, 2017 Posted April 23, 2017 "I am sure in Japan there are probably special motels where you can pay people just to sleep in in your arms. I mean even try that some day...." Mmm....I see a business opportunity here! Lol Quote