Pattaya report 2016

[Guest]

Surely the 20 baht tips are just given to people on stage more or less for them putting a bit of effort, not for any service ?

 

Once they sit with you for a while, we're into the 100+ tipping range.

 

Of course, now we're in the holiday season, some farang just hand out 100s like confetti. As they are entitled to do with their own money.

[bucknaway]

When I am in a gogo bar and the performers leave the stage and make their way to me in search of a tip I may or may not give one.  I visit many bars every night and I will be broke if I throw around 100 baht tips to everyone who asks.  For those that give freely and generously I say thank you.  For those like me that are a little more tight with their money and give respectable tips, I say good for us.

 

My last trip, I gave away more money than I did the prior trip when I purchased 2 samsung phones.  One for a Bangkok friend and the other for a Pattaya friend.  (Note, I got a better deal for the phone at the MBK Samsung store than I did at the Tuk.com Samsung store.)

 

What did I learn from that trip.  I learned that spending more money didn't make my trip anymore fun or improve my friendship with people.  It did elevate their expectations from me when it came to my generosity.  On my next trip, I will go back to my normal level of spending and stretching my money.  I may need it when I retire.

 

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So when I go to boys boys boys, I go with about 200 baht in 20 baht notes.  When I see the b-boys perform for the 2 or 3rd time that night, I give 20 to 40 baht tip but they get a minimum of 20 baht every time I see them perform that night in the other bars they perform at when I am in attendance.

 

When the guys come over and swing their dicks for tips, I tend to touch their dick and give them 20 baht unless it is a guy I like.  If it is a guy I like, I will give him 100 baht.

 

How I tip in Bangkok.  If I go to Dreamboys, I will never have a guy sit with me and buy them a drink.  That is 500 baht plus tip to the guy fetching the drinks.  Instead, if I like a guy on stage in the rotation.  I will tip him 100 baht each time he comes around in the rotation.  When I do that the host always asks if I want the guy to sit with me and I say no.  by the 3rd time the guy knows i'm going to tip him and sure enough I get up and hand him another 100 baht.  When his 4th rotation comes around.  If he is still on stage, I will give him another 100 baht.  Then I pay my check and head out.  More times than not the guy will jump from the stage and stop me on my way out to talk.  Since it is rare that I off anyone from a bar, I don't need to sit and talk since it won't lead to anything anyway.

[a447a]

When it comes to paying to cop a feel kokopelli knows what he is speaking of as I've read that he spends 10 months every year in Pattaya.

I don't doubt for a minute that what Koko says reflects the expectations of the boys. It's just that I have different expectations in that I usually expect the guy to actually do something to earn his tip.

 

Unless, as bucknaway says, the boy is particularly hot - then I'll make an exception and tip 100 baht or more.

 

I'm not a charity. I believe money should be earned. Afterall, nobody gave me money for nothing. The guys should not be encouraged to expect money for nothing. That won't get them very far in life.

 

I have a favourite male dancer at BBB - the guy who dances in the first act on the right hand side of the stage. Not only is he gorgeous, he puts a lot of effort into his dancing so he gets more than 100 baht. Every time he comes off stage he smiles at me and touches me on the shoulder (I always sit in the front row). I've been tipping him for years.

 

For me cost never comes into the equation, only value for money.

[a447a]

After my massage we sat down on the bed and enjoyed the various noises coming from the room next-door. When another room is occupied they turn on the music to disguise what's going on, but the speakers are stuffed and there are long periods of time when nothing comes out of them.

 

Today we heard the voice of what sounded like a young Englishman. He was encouraging the boy to do something.

 

"Try it! Just try!" he was saying.

 

Try what, I wonder. The mind boggles.

 

The rest of our chat consisted of him telling me he was going to try a new position tomorrow and me trying to guess what it is. To be honest, I don't think there are many positions left. He's quite an expert and loves looking at the action in the mirror that covers the wall next to the bed.

 

I got dressed and put on my glasses, only to find the frame was broken so I went to the optician in Royal Garden to get them fixed. The bad news was that I needed new lenses. I had the glasses made in Bangkok a few years ago and paid extra for the German lenses, so I was really pissed off that they hadn't lasted very long.

 

A young girl did the eye testing and then a young guy told me he would measure my face to check the shape of the lenses. I'd spoken to him earlier and had held his wrist while I admired his gold bracelet.

 

I sat down and he drew up a chair in front of me. He had to lean forward to put the instrument to my eyes so I found myself sitting with one leg between his. He touched my leg with his knee as he came even closer and I reciprocated ever so slightly.

 

When he was finished he asked me if I had a boyfriend. I told me I didn't and he said that he was available! If I hadn't already had dinner I would have invited him to join me.

 

Walking back along the street down by Boyztown I passed one of the massage places and witnessed something new. I got the call.

 

"Massa ~?"

 

I turned around to see two massage guys sitting on a bench. One had his hand between the others guy's legs, openly groping him! In public! Only in Thailand!

 

Tonight I started off as usual at Goodboys and took the two guys in the same order as last night. But tonight was different - the first guy wasn't himself; he seemed very sleepy. Could be be on something, I wondered.

 

He turned to one of the guys - the one with the silicone cock - and asked to borrow his phone with all the porn on it but his so-called "friend" demanded 20 baht. So we did it without the movies and it took about half an hour.

 

Chet was with a customer so I decided to head over to Eros. I sat with a new guy tonight. He soon told me he hadn't cum in days so I was happy to oblige.

 

Back to Goodboys for Chet. When we'd finished I suggested he reciprocate, which he gladly agreed to. But his technique wasn't very good at all; no surprise there as he's used to something a little...err....larger. Also, I don't think he's had much experience servicing customers as he's usually on the receiving end. Never mind.

 

Off to BBB. I got there at 11 and it was standing room only. I couldn't even get in the door, so I decided to wait till the midnight show and took a look insude Cupidol.

 

Wow! Very nice. Lots of guys and very modern. Soft drinks 160, alcohol 180. As I left Iran into number 53 outside. Gorgeous. Another boy to pencil in.

 

The sexy boy show was nothing special, if you've seen it before. Add in the past, the highlight for me was Mr Every Gay Man's Wet Dream. He's still gorgeous and still has that body to die for. And as always you never get to see his impressive hard-on, as it's always kept in his pants or covered up.

 

He took part in a new act - simulated fucking. I just kept telling myself it was real.

 

The sexy boy show was spoilt by a group of Chinese women who had obviously never seen anything like it. Their piercing screams during the big cock show gave me a headache and, of course, merely encouraged more guys to show their junk in their faces.

 

And finally, drop into BBB is you want to see the latest and greatest Thai hair styles. They range from the sublime to the utterly ridiculous.

 

There was a new guy there tonight whose hair had been dyed silver and shaped into a wedge on the top. Not a hair was out of place. He was an arrogant prick - god's gift to women.

 

A elderly male couple told the waiter they wanted him to sit with them. The boy flatly refused.

 

And this is a change I've noticed. The guys are all straight and because so many Chinese women are in the audience, that's where their attention now lies. We are old news, I'm afraid.

[vinapu]

When I am in a gogo bar and the performers leave the stage and make their way to me in search of a tip I may or may not give one. 

 

t's just that I have different expectations in that I usually expect the guy to actually do something to earn his tip.

 

Unless, as bucknaway says, the boy is particularly hot - then I'll make an exception and tip 100 baht or more.

 

I'm not a charity. I believe money should be earned. Afterall, nobody gave me money for nothing. The guys should not be encouraged to expect money for nothing. 

I don't want to create a controversy but  way I look at the issue is that boy allows me to touch his privates, erect or not,  he already did plenty  to earn a tip.

 

Fact that he is a bar boy doesn't make me thinking I can put my hand everywhere I want unless he is prospective off and I just want to check wares but I do this only at boys invitation or indication.

 

So when big cock show participants are going into audience I have an eye on one of them and when he approaches I get a feel and he gets 100. 

 

Other boys I neither  touch nor tip.

 

Fuck show couple gets a 100 as well just for making fool of themselves . On recent trip in both Screwboys and XBoys Pattaya it looked that boys were soliciting  100 each , I stood my ground but in a future I may need to make a decision  in such a case tip 200, stick to 100  or not tip at all, we will see.

 

I still stick to my habit of tipping 100  boy on the stage   who did not get tip from me for other reason and I like the most  when leaving a bar.

If boy is sitting with me on my invitation  , he gets 100, unless I do a bit of exploration then it may be 200 or 300 depending of discovery and length of time. 

 

I find deliberations whether to tip 50 or 100 not worth of trouble although I'm pretty sure lots of boys would rather get 50 than nothing as such and even 20 baht tips may add to something but I leave that level of tipping to those who are there for longer time

 

Probably boy would be happier with me coming daily for a week and tipping 20 for  a feel than once  a year and . tipping 100 but really unless we talk to him we can only speculate  about their preferences. 

 

 

As for z909 confetti comment I recall few years ago a Oriental  client in one of bars literally throwing money at boys like that and having fun watching commotion. 

[Vessey]

I decided to wait till the midnight show and took a look insude Cupidol.

Wow! Very nice. Lots of guys and very modern. Soft drinks 160, alcohol 180. As I left Iran into number 53 outside. Gorgeous. Another boy to pencil in.

 

The sexy boy show was nothing special, if you've seen it before. Add in the past, the highlight for me was Mr Every Gay Man's Wet Dream. He's still gorgeous and still has that body to die for. And as always you never get to see his impressive hard-on, as it's always kept in his pants or covered up.

 

He took part in a new act - simulated fucking. I just kept telling myself it was real.

 

The sexy boy show was spoilt by a group of Chinese women who had obviously never seen anything like it. Their piercing screams during the big cock show gave me a headache and, of course, merely encouraged more guys to show their junk in their faces.

 

 

 

I had no idea Cupidol did a show - is it daily and if so at what time(s) please?

[bucknaway]

I don't judge anyone on how they tip.  For me I look at it this way.  I am in Thailand for a little over 2 weeks.  I will visit 4 bars at minimum every night often going into the same bar if I enjoy it there.  So I have to ask myself how much money am I going to throw down the hole?  If I go into an expensive bar the drink will be 400 for me plus the tip to the server.  Then the tip to the performer.  Then it's off to the next bar for 300 baht drinks plus 100 baht tip to the server and tips to the guys and the performer.  Then it is off to the next bar with 200 baht drinks with 100 baht tip to the server and tip to the guys.  Then onto the next bar or 100 baht drinks and 100 baht tip to the server and drinks and tips to the guys.  This will be repeated every night.  So when I read tip advice I just look at it as if it does not pertain to me.

 

Besides, you show me 100 guys and I will show you 100 guys that tip differently then the other for their own reasons.

 

Some may not want to give 20 baht tip thinking it is too small, but it may feed a guy that would consider the unthinkable for a little something to eat.  Then again, maybe not hahahaha

[vinapu]

100 tip to the server I consider veryyyyyyyyyyyyy generous unless you are scheming to bed him in a future. 

 

Don't read me wrong though, over generous doesn't mean wasteful, as you noticed everybody has own tipping habits including those who don't tip at all.

 

What I'd call unfair were 100 baht tip to server and say, 50 or 20 to one presenting his cock for a feel. 

 

For me is a bit easier since I generally don't do much of bar hopping usually settling on one or two

[kokopelli]

I don't doubt for a minute that what Koko says reflects the expectations of the boys. It's just that I have different expectations in that I usually expect the guy to actually do something to earn his tip.

For me, the go-go boys are doing something to earn their tip; nothing like a bevy of almost naked boys smiling, winking, flirting, dancing, groping and sometimes exposing themselves!  I don't go to go-go bars to drink but rather to gawk at the guys. So do try to spend as much on tips to the boys as I do on the drink to the house. So maybe 5-20 Baht tips or 2-50 Baht tips or 1- 100 Baht tip all depending on the bar and the boys.   Of course this is in Pattaya and not Bangkok!!

Having one sit with you, or as with a447, a lot more than just sitting, well then that is earning his keep and deserving of greater largess. 

[a447a]

"I don't want to create a controversy but way I look at the issue is that boy allows me to touch his privates, erect or not, he already did plenty to earn a tip."

 

Don't get me wrong. I agree he deserves a tip. It's just a matter of how much. I would never touch a guy without giving him a tip.

 

Vessey, Cupidol doesn't have a show. I was referring to BBB where I went after sitting in Cupidol waiting for their (BBB) midnight show . Sorry, I should have been more specific.

 

"For me, the go-go boys are doing something to earn their tip; nothing like a bevy of almost naked boys smiling, winking, flirting, dancing, groping and sometimes exposing themselves! "

 

Unfortunately, at least in the case of BBB, those guys are now directing their full attention to the Chinese girls. We are but an afterthought ; someone to off them when their girls have left the bar without them.

[vinapu]

 

........... those guys are now directing their full attention to the Chinese girls. We are but an afterthought ; someone to off them when their girls have left the bar without them.

look at bright side, in such a case they may appreciate your custom even more, I had one such a womanizer from there recently and in the morning clearly he was not in a rush to leave. 

[a447a]

My massage boy led me upstairs to our usual room. Today he had a surprise for me - a sex position involving a chair. Unfortunately, the room was already occupied so we moved next door to a room with no chair. Oh well, I wasn't particularly disappointed, given that I think the position required me to be something of a contortionist.

 

The massage place ran out of massage cream and only had oil, which I hate. They refused to buy a new supply because they are about to close down. So today I turned up to find my masseur had gone out and bought some cream, just for me. The only problem is, it was really cheap - 100 baht - so who knows what's in it. Something tells me I should have bought my own and taken it along.

 

Straight over to Goodboys after dinner with some members of another board. Tonight Nuu performed beautifully and again feel asleep with me on the sofa after the deed.

 

Chet was supposed to be next but he was taken by a couple of guys while Nuu and I were busy. I looked through the screen behind me and there was one of the guys rimming him. What's with all this rimming all of a sudden??

 

In the meantime a new guy came and sat with us and watched the action. It was obvious what he wanted so Nuu got up and changed places. The new guy's name is Ben and he's from Isaan. You know the rest.

 

Then over to Eros. The place was practically deserted.

 

An Asian guy sat down, grabbed a boy and started having his way with him. He didn't want to buy the boy a drink but was eventually told it was the custom to do so. He left the bar without tipping the boy! Unbelievable.

 

My plan was to spend some time in Eros while Chet recovered but one thing led to another and I came to a sticky end.

 

So over to BBB. I arrived around 11 but there weren't any seats in the front row so I hung around till the 10:30 show finished.

 

The highlight of the evening was not the show. It was a guy who looked like he was in his fifties who came in dressed in white spangled hot pants which continued up to his chest to form a kind of bra. He had a white garter on each leg and was wearing flip-flops and carrying a white fan. He's obviously a regular in the bar as none of the boys batted an eyelid.

 

What can I say? Good on him! That's his way of expressing himself and he's not harming anyone. I wonder if he walks around during the day dressed like that.

[Myboby]

May I ask simple query ?

What is special servis in GoodBoys bar ?

I move several times around and not have any reason seat there. In chair seats in general two boys and bar looks as dead.

[bucknaway]

On most trips I try to plan out my nights to make the most of each day.  This last trip to Thailand I found my time in Pattaya was turned upside down.  I didn't get to spend the time in Eros as I had planned.  I visited one night while showing a guy I met around Sunee but after that I never did get to go back and have fun with the guys.  I hope to fix that when and if I return.

 

 

[vinapu]

May I ask simple query ?

What is special servis in GoodBoys bar ?

I move several times around and not have any reason seat there. In chair seats in general two boys and bar looks as dead.

you need to go behind partition, choose a boy and he will make a private chuck-wow show for you for consideration of 300 baht.

 

Boys are friendly , fun to be with and some of them  equipped rather very well.

[dellboy]

you need to go behind partition, choose a boy and he will make a private chuck-wow show for you for consideration of 300 baht.

 

Boys are friendly , fun to be with and some of them  equipped rather very well.

300 baht plus a boydrink or 300 baht only ??

[Vessey]

300 baht plus a boydrink or 300 baht only ??

 

Boydrink, and tip for boy of 300 baht when he cums

[Guest DThump]

Do you really think the bar will let you just give the boy 300bht, no no the owner Nui wont have that, you will buy the boy a drink and one for yourself too.

[a447a]

Do you really think the bar will let you just give the boy 300bht, no no the owner Nui wont have that, you will buy the boy a drink and one for yourself too.

That's right. But if you chuck wow 2 or more guys in one session you don't have to buy more drinks for yourself, only for each boy.

 

Goodboys has really taken off since I was last here. Plenty of boys and there have been customers every time I've visited this trip - a far cry from the times when I was the only customer. In those days you could drop in any time and chances are the boys would be up for it. But not any more.

 

An observation. I saw a world map showing all the various cock sizes of guys, country by country. Thailand was, from memory, towards the bottom. I find this very difficult to believe.

 

Why? Well, if you go into any gogo bar which has a big cock show you will see that a large proportion of the guys who stand on stage in their undies re-appear in the show. Last night in BBB I counted around 28 guys, which is around 50% of their boys. Same for the bars in Soi Twilight. They don't bring in hung guys for the show - they just use their own guys.

 

And all the guys I've had the pleasure to know in Goodboys have massive members. Way more than half, I suspect. The others I have yet to get intimately acquainted with.

 

I know one can't extrapolate from those figures that a majority of Thais are hung.

 

But is over 50% just a coincidence? I'm presuming here that the gogo bars do not stipulate a big cock as a prerequisite for employment. I'll find out what BBB requires of its boys when my "special friend" comes back to visit me tonight. He knows.

[Vessey]

 

And all the guys I've had the pleasure to know in Goodboys have massive members. Way more than half, I suspect. The others I have yet to get intimately acquainted with.

I know one can't extrapolate from those figures that a majority of Thais are hung.

 

But is over 50% just a coincidence? I'm presuming here that the gogo bars do not stipulate a big cock as a prerequisite for employment. I'll find out what BBB requires of its boys when my "special friend" comes back to visit me tonight. He knows.

 

The stories that the Thai guys have small cocks and are lazy lovers is party of the fantasy that all the girls sell to their falang customers to make us feel good about ourselves. "Oh! you so big", "why you make me cum" - all pleasurable bullshit of course. 

 

In the real world there are some whoppers out there (thankfully).

[a447a]

For a number of years I had a regular guy with whom I spent every day of my 4 annual holidays in Pattaya. I met him when he worked at Eros. He them moved to Sunny Boys. After that bar closed down he went back home and I didn't see him for over a year. I became a butterfly again.

 

For me, he's perfect in every way. Very shy, quiet, polite...the list goes on. He's very handsome and, of course, has that beautiful Thai smile that charms the socks off me. And that body! So slim, with skin as smooth as silk. Oh, and that big, fat cock that rises to the occasion at the slightest touch.

 

He's got it all.

 

Many bar boys moved to other businesses in Sunee when Sunny Boys closed. One of them works at Tingtong Red. When I ran into him one evening the first thing he told me was that my boy was back in Pattaya. On a later visit that evening to Eros, many boys told me the same thing. They all knew we were a couple.

 

Yesterday he contacted me. Twenty minutes later we were hugging each other outside my hotel.

 

Up in the room we had so much catching up to do. He told me after Sunny Boys closed he went to Korat where he worked for a year in a curtain hotel - as a cleaner. He said many Thai guys just threw the used condoms onto the floor. A couple of times he said he trod on one and got cum between his toes. Yuk!!!

 

He earned 9000 baht per month and for that he had to work 14 hours a day. When the owner upped his salary to 10,000 he was on call 24 /7. He's left soon after.

 

He now freelances and works a few nights a week in a beer bar in Jomtien Complex, along with his younger brother.

 

A couple of days ago he applied for a job at Boyzboyzboyz. At the interview he said he was told he needed to bulk up and was told he would have to work out. Oh, and yes, they checked the size of his cock and apparently, were very impressed. (As they would be.) They didn't actually measure it; they just asked him to go to the toilet and get hard, took a good look at it and told him he was size 54 condom. They said he could start working that day.

 

But he found it difficult because he doesn't have any friends there and he said he didn't feel like he belonged. It was not his scene.

 

I suggested he could be part of the big cock show, knowing full well what he'd say.

 

"No. Cannot. Too shy."

 

I then said he could be one of their coyote dancers. Apparently, they earn 15,000 baht per month, but once again, he said he was too shy to appear on stage in his underwear. This guy is a real tiger in bed, but I remember that when he was working in the gogo bars he always looked a bit uncomfortable.

 

He's still thinking about whether or not to work at BBB.

 

Enough chatting. We got down to business.

 

Nothing had changed. As in the past, I still found it difficult to bottom because his cock is so thick, but it's amazing what liberal amounts of KY can do. He's also into trying out various positions.

 

Sadly, he doesn't rim. Lol

 

Time for the chuck wow. I'd forgotten that he likes to cum on me. He asked me where so I said on my stomach would be just fine.

 

Something else I'd forgotten - his cumshot. OMG!! This is exactly what I've been dying to see.

 

This guy doesn't just cum - he explodes and cum sprays everywhere. The first shot flew over my head and hit the wall and the bedhead. Luckily, I quickly closed my eyes as I got a bit of an unexpected facial. He finished with a few very powerful squirts on my neck and chest - and the sheets and pillow. He missed my stomach altogether. He then collapsed on top of me, totally spent. That's what you get when you are young and don't cum for three days.

 

We lay there, glued together in a sticky mess.

 

We showered and then headed over to Central Festival for dinner at the Fuji Japanese restaurant, followed by coffee at Starbucks. Exactly like before.

 

This guy is not your typical gogo boy - he's up with all the latest news. Among other topics, we discussed Trump's attitude to China (!), Japanese prime minister Abe's visit to Pearl Harbor (!!) and the price of gold(!!!). We also covered Aleppo and Muslim migration into Germany. Oh, and Philippines president Duterte. Amazing. His English grammar is all over the place but he has a large and varied vocabulary. And he has Google Translate.

 

We then came back to my room for round two. As expected, the cumshot wasn't quite as spectacular, but this time I remembered to take the pillows off the bed before he lay on his back for the finish. By normal standards, it was still very impressive indeed, but he still looked a little sheepish.

 

Mai pen rai! We can try again tomorrow.

[vinapu]

I'm glad you fell into familiar embraces. Butterflying has it's advantages  but hugging  familiar body is like homecoming and if unexpected , with lottery winning feel.

 

He probably felt the same, hence the size of eruption, congratulations ! 

[Vessey]

Yes its the same for me, at the start of each trip half of me is dying to explore new opportunities, but the other half of me is equally desperate to fall into the arms of my favourite(s).

 

Inconveniently my three favourites from last trip are now all working in Toy Boys, and apart from the sheer expense of rounds of drinks there, there will need to be some delicate footwork about who is coming home with me afterwards LOL

[vinapu]

 

 

Inconveniently my three favourites from last trip are now all working in Toy Boys, and apart from the sheer expense of rounds of drinks there, there will need to be some delicate footwork about who is coming home with me afterwards LOL

Just rotate them openly and in meantime see if some of them, would be for a threesome. Easier life and possibly more fun.

[Myboby]

Just rotate them openly and in meantime see if some of them, would be for a threesome. Easier life and possibly more fun.

 

What is your common experience?

 

If I take off two boys from one bar what is outcome - boy enjoy openly each other or I need search real boyfriends?

My last visit in Pattaya I ask on GR boy from ToyBoys to bring his friend or him selected company for threesome but he prefer individual visit - so I not push him more because I afraid of effect - I do not want persuasion in room.

I tested also two real boyfriends in 4hand massage in room but  - one boy was dressed and suck to end naked one and I get happy end.

Again is not best result    :-)    :-(    I expect little cuddling also.