vinapu Posted September 2, 2016 Posted September 2, 2016 So i'm kind of in between right now struggling to figure out what I want. 1 hot boy for many days, or 1 new hot boy everyday. Either way, seems like I win no matter what decision I make. You will be Ok either way , just don't get upset if you see your favorite boy going with somebody else. He needs to make a living after all. Quote
vinapu Posted September 2, 2016 Posted September 2, 2016 Even though I was, I wasn’t exactly going pull the boy away from a customer who selected him first and had already ordered a drink for him. I think this has also been discussed in the forum somewhere that it wasn’t a nice thing to do to steal a customer’s boy. You are correct , it would not be nice to snatch boy from another customer although boy could be relieved if he knows you and is not very fond of one who he is sitting with. But I guess nothing stops boy from dumping his customer if he really wants to. I know it from personal experience in both capacities. I was dumped by the boy for another client after deal was sealed but also boy dumped his client upon seeing me entering a bar likely because I offed him before and he knew what to expect. When I protested he just told me matter of factly ' I tell him I must go with you" . Market at work i guess. If one is really interested in a boy who is sitting with somebody else there's always option of outwaiting other guy. Often customer wants to sit with boy but has no intention of offing him sop eventually your dream boy will be released. Once at Screwboys visiting with one of our members I dispensed this advice and it worked. But only to extend - he managed to get a boy but in the room he turned less than thrilling so at end of day it was one of those cases of stunner turning sandbag. faranglaw 1 Quote
Guest ryanasia Posted September 2, 2016 Posted September 2, 2016 Yes, boys on stairs are looking for customers and quite often they are quite attractive. If you don't want to drag them to your hotel there are short time rooms in the Suriwong Hotel across the street and in BBB Inn around the corner from soi Twilight. Boys will know about these anyways. Jasper is right -unless you are sworn butterfly if you are fond of boy it is not a bad idea to reserve his time for a future for two reasons- you ensure known and enjoyable company and avoid being upset seeing him gone with some will ugly troll half generous and 3/4 less handsome than you This isn't the problem. The real problem is 3/4 less handsome and three times as generous. Quote
ct2005 Posted September 2, 2016 Posted September 2, 2016 ... Yes, I do enjoy going to these "straight" massage places because of the thrill of what may happen. More often than not, something does. In fact, I go more Thai massages now where you put on clothes than oil massages because first of all, it is cheaper, but also because the chances of them offering a HE is lower than an oil massage. For me, this makes it even more exhilarating when it does. If nothing happens, I either pop into the next shop, tell them to give me another hour of oil massage, or take it that he's just prepping me for the main event later on in my room. ... I wonder if the HE (if it happens) is just limited to the masseur doing a HJ for the customer. For me, I would need some b2b cuddling, maybe some oral ..., before I consider it as a HE. ChristianPFC 1 Quote
keniching Posted September 2, 2016 Author Posted September 2, 2016 It depends. I've had a wide range of endings provided at these straight massage parlours. They tend to be HJs, however I recall a situation where the massage therapist removed all his clothes and proceeded to try and top me. I stupidly forgot to bring condoms with me to the massage shop as this was one of my first few trips to Thailand. So to curb his horniness, he climbs on top of me, dry humps me with our dicks in between us and cums all over my chest. I was so turned on that I almost hit him in the face when I climax as he was sucking on my nipples. If memory serves me well, I was the only one on that level of the massage shop so the shannanigans were not heard. I never leave the hotel room without condoms now or at least buy some before getting a massage anywhere. ct2005 and ChristianPFC 2 Quote
vinapu Posted September 2, 2016 Posted September 2, 2016 The mamasan definitely is annoying and that behavior certainly doesn't work on those that have some experience. However, I'm sure it has earned them quite an amount of baht from a newcomer to the scene. I can imagine people being pressured into offing a boy after being persistently pestered. I agree with you. Not to defend annoying mamasans but I need to repeat what I said on this forum already many times - honestly, on my first ever visit to go-go bar in not pushy mamasan I'd escape in panic and never off a boy than. Quote
vinapu Posted September 2, 2016 Posted September 2, 2016 I never leave the hotel room without condoms now or at least buy some before getting a massage anywhere. Very smart as we had reports here of fun spoiled by the lack of those. Do not assume massage place will provide them although serious gay oriented businesses like Arena , PrInce, Senso etc would. Advice for shy types - when boy enters room watch supplies he brought with him. if apart of massage oil you spy condom and sometimes even lubricant , you know that he is serious about business so no need to be shy anymore, just wait for him to take a lead faranglaw 1 Quote
Popular Post keniching Posted September 3, 2016 Author Popular Post Posted September 3, 2016 Day 4 + Night 4 I leave the JJ Market and head back to the comforts of the air conditioning in the hotel room. I was feeling rather bored and under normal circumstances, I would usually head out to get a massage. In fact, it crossed my mind to head to Arena for a massage now that Hero is defunct. However, I think about the heat and I end up deciding to stay within the confines of my hotel room. I get a message on Line from a friend and while in there, I’m reminded of A. I decided to drop him a message and ask him why he didn’t reply me yesterday. I soon get a reply and he said that he needed my help but he couldn’t tell me. “What help did you need?” and as I sent the message, I thought, oh crap. I’m gonna get a buffalo me die, send me money situation. He then informs me that he doesn’t have enough money as he had to go to his hometown earlier in the morning because his father had an accident and was in the hospital. Great, only the 2nd most used story out there. “So you’re at your hometown today? When you come back?” “Yes, Tonight going back because no enough money cannot stay. Now waiting for friends send me.” I proceed to ask him how long it would take for him to come back to BKK and he says it’s about an hour by plane (he doesn’t say plane but uses a sticker to imply what he meant). I recall a conversation that I’ve had with him during the first time that I offed him that he does not like flying. He’d much rather take the bus for hours than get on a plane. So for me, it adds a bit of credibility to his story since he wouldn’t possibly take a bus if his father really did meet with an accident. Of course, I still had doubts to the entire story and I tried to suss out more information from him. “Can you help me? If can, I go back and stay with you. So sorry.” He also sends me a photo of himself and claims to have taken it earlier in the morning while at the airport. Of course, I’m thinking that this picture could be recycled and I took it with a grain of salt. “How much money do you need to come back to BKK?” “I need 2000 for [plane sticker] and 2000 to give father for go hospital tomorrow again. Yesterday I want to talk you”. Okay, so if he really wanted to extort money out of me, I’m sure he would try to extort more. And I wouldn’t really have much to lose (since I always off him for Long time and Dreamboys has a minimum tip of 3000baht) besides a few hundred to 1000 baht right? And he did offer to come and stay with me for the night so treat it as a bit of advance payment? ”So why didn’t you talk to me yesterday then?” “I think you not understand me because I am money boy. So sorry now tell you, because I don’t know how to do now.” So maybe this guy is a pro because that broke my heart. The fact that he only saw himself as a money boy and therefore all customers would treat them as all the same. Ok, so I made up my mind. I was going to help him afterall. I wanted to help him make his way back to BKK so that he’d be able to work, so I offer to buy him the air ticket. I predict that if the story that he was telling was a lie, he’d lose half of the amount and wouldn’t be so keen on the idea. I ask for his ID details and inform him that I’ll book it online for him. He thanks me and proceeds to send me the screenshots of the flight and sends it to me along with his details. Right about now, I’ve decided that this story is legit and that he really did need money to return back to BKK. I decide to NOT book it with my credit card just in case the airline asks for the credit card that was used in the booking. I ask for his bank account number and inform him that I’ll send him enough money so that he’ll be able to pay for it on his own and also for him to give 2000baht to his father. I leave my hotel in search of the nearest Cash Deposit and managed to find one at the beginning of the Soi. He Lines me saying that he got the message from the bank showing that money was deposited into his account and thanks me for it. Earlier when he sent me the flight details of the flights to book, I realized that they arrived in BKK pretty late, all after midnight. Since he’s arriving pretty late, I give him the option of whether he’d like to come and find me tonight or would he rather go back to his room to rest and find me the next day. He then says that yes, he’d like to go to the room first because he has yet to sleep but if I wanted him to come to my hotel tonight, that he’s ok as well. I tell him that its ok and that he can go back to his room first to sleep and that I’ll see him tomorrow. We set a time for 9.30 at Dreamboys. “Thank you. Too understand me”. I felt at ease with the decision that I made and I knew that deep down, had I refused to help him, It would eat away at me inside out. With this decision, I knew that I was able to help him out and even if this did turn out to be a scam, I would still be able to go to sleep in peace tonight. With the whole situation behind me, I set my sights on what I’d do tonight. I figured that today, being a Sunday, there would be less boys available in the smaller bars than there were yesterday and decided that I’d show up at Dreamboys again, this time abit earlier before the show. I recall the stunning boy that I saw yesterday and thought I'd see if I'd see him at the bar tonight. I show up at dreamboys and I see both M and P on stage. My mamasan friend also approaches me and we talk after he gets my drink for me. He knows that I've always had a liking towards A, informs me that he was not in today as he had to go back to his hometown and that he doesn't know when he'll be back. I told him that i knew of the situation and i go back to looking at the boys on stage. I seriously think about offing M again but a part of me insides tells me to stop being a creature of comfort and try something, or rather in this case, someone new. Amongst the sea of boys, I spot S standing at the back. I wait for him to come around and get my mamasan friend to see if he's available for long time. He checks with S and informs that he only does short time. This was where the real dilemma kicks in. Do I stick with someone that I knew that was good and could do long time or do what I set out to do which is to try someone new but only available for short time? I ponder this throughout the show until the boys take their turn on the stage again for the 2nd time. Maybe I was hoping that the decision would be made for me if any one of them were taken by a customer but both of them took the place on stage after the show. I look at S again and notice how stunning he was and what a perfect body he had. It was then that I realized just how badly i wanted to him in my hotel room and decided that he would be my pick for the night. I invite him to sit next to me and order him a drink. He had limited english, but it didn't bother me too much because I wouldn't have much time to be talking to him anyways. We sit and watch the show and there wasn't much contact between us in the bar but at this point I wasn't really thinking with the correct head. I call for the bill, tip M, P, and the mamasan and head out of the bar. I ask S if he's hungry and he says that he wasn't but heads into 7-11 after I asked if he'd like to get something from there. I shower first followed by him back in my hotel room, and we both get under the sheets. Lets just say it wasn't the best of times but it wasn't bad either. He only tops (no fault of the boy as he'd informed me earlier in the bar) and it wasn't until I got back to the hotel that I didn't feel like bottoming. Not that big of an issue for me, just looking at this boy made me so hard. We suck each other and jerk one another off. He cums first and then does everything that he can to get me there as well. I soon cum and he hops off the bed to grab tissues to clean up. He jumps into the shower and i do to after he's out. I come out to S putting on his shoes, I hand him his tip and walk him out of the hotel as i wanted to get stuff from the 7-11 across the soi as well. We bid goodbye as a cab rolls out, I grab what i need at 7-11 and talk to the concierge to schedule a ride to the Airport the day after. The trip was coming to an end and I was not looking forward to it. It cheered me up a little knowing that I'll be seeing A the next day though and went to bed looking forward to what the next day would bring. DivineMadman, TMax, vinapu and 4 others 7 Quote
Guest whall Posted September 3, 2016 Posted September 3, 2016 No dude! Lol. I was like screaming reading your report.."don't fall for it". We never learn. A cute body and ass and we think with our cock cocks. Quote
vinapu Posted September 3, 2016 Posted September 3, 2016 I read A story with an interest and like everybody else I'm curious to learn how it will turn out. Since demands weren't exorbitant I think I'd fall into such a trap with view of having him in my room next night. Also I see an advantage of not providing boys with our contact information to avoid milking and creating awkward situation when we like boy but don't like his antics. Quote
Jasper Posted September 4, 2016 Posted September 4, 2016 A bit of suspense story about "A". I think I would have done the same sending money as you mentioned 4000 B is not too much to lose since you regularly off the boy long time for 3000B. The worst case scenario ? He sent LINE messages to 5 regular customers. Even then you can get it back somehow if A comes back to Dreamboy anyway. I am surprised a popular Dreamboy's boy like A hasn't got that much money with him if what he claimed to be true. Quote
faranglaw Posted September 4, 2016 Posted September 4, 2016 You are correct , it would not be nice to snatch boy from another customer although boy could be relieved if he knows you and is not very fond of one who he is sitting with... Once at Screwboys visiting with one of our members I dispensed this advice and it worked. But only to extend - he managed to get a boy but in the room he turned less than thrilling so at end of day it was one of those cases of stunner turning sandbag. Sandbag is a cute phrase. When I lived in Japan we used the phrase "sushi," as in lying cold and lifeless on the plate. Some guys used the Japanese word "maguro." ChristianPFC 1 Quote
Jasper Posted September 4, 2016 Posted September 4, 2016 I love to read a trip report about Dreamboy/ Jupiter and of course Tawan. Gussing who the writer's boy was remembering all the boys I have seen at these bars. In this story thinking who is A?! Quote
Popular Post keniching Posted September 5, 2016 Author Popular Post Posted September 5, 2016 Day 5 + Night 5 So I'm up the next day, I do a little bit of last minute shopping getting whatever that I missed out so far and then head back to the hotel for a quick shower before heading to dreamboys. I'm there at 9.30 on the dot, I look on stage and A is not there. I take a seat and look around and A is not there either. My mamasan friend approaches me and I order my drink. I ask him if A was around when he returns with my drink and he replied that he thinks A is downstairs. He asks if I'd like to inform him if I was here and I tell him to do so. Shortly later, I see A coming towards me and he gives me a big hug, indicates to his watch and says that I was punctual and that he had just gotten there as well. So punctuality does exist with some boys after all. I get a drink for him and we sit there talking about a lot of things. I of course ask him why didn't he inform me if he needed my help earlier and he says that he actually contemplated telling me that night when he asked if I wanted to see him. He was afraid that I wouldn't believe him, and that also he was embarrassed to raise the issue. He kept going back and forth over telling me and eventually decided to not let me know of the situation. He said that by coming to work instead of seeing me, he wouldn't have to worry about my reaction and how I'd view him after hearing of the story. He also apologized and thanked me for everything once again. We finish the discussion and I ask if he'd like to use the gym in the bar. He nods and runs off to the gym for abit while I talk to my mamasan friend. He returns shortly after and as the end of the night drew near, I pay up my bill for the last time this trip. I tip M, P, A, and two more boys who I found attractive on stage whom I haven't seen before. A looks at me and comments "oh oh oh, tonight you want many boy ah?". No, A was enough for me. I also hand over a tip to my friend and we head out of the bar. He lets me know that he's hungry after I asked and we decide to grab some food along Silom street. We sit there and talk for quite awhile and then hop into a taxi back to the hotel. Back in the hotel we talk about a lot of other things and soon it was 2am. It was getting late so I hit the showers first followed by him and continue on with our conversations after we hop into bed. We get to the topic of music and he starts playing mandarin music that he listens to asking if I listen to them as well. He also plays Thai music in between and sings along to them. I scrunch my face up in an effort to tell him that maybe him singing as a career may not be an option for him (He's actually not that horrible). He laughs at this and continues to do so. I keep making faces and he keeps singing alternating between Thai and mandarin songs on purpose. I'm happy to listen to him as it seemed that for once, he let his guard down and was just being himself, foolish, silly, but still so goddamn adorable. I use my hand to cover his mouth in an effort to muffle the sound. I recall that he was ticklish and I tickle him to make him "stop" singing. We soon get into a wrestling match every time a new song comes on. All the songs that he was listening to were songs from back in the day so I ask him why. He says that he likes the songs because it's what his parents listen to. As soon as he said it, the mood changes in the room and I see his eyes swell up with tears. He attempts to hide them from me by pretending that he's tired and uses his fingers to pinch the bridge of his nose. I hug him and we stay that way for abit. I ask him if he's fine later and he says that he was, pretending that nothing had happened. We get into the playful mood again and we're wrestling and rolling around on the bed. At one point, he's right on top of me and stares right into my eyes. The way he looked at me, I was so turned on that I don't think I've ever gotten so hard so fast in my life. He obviously feels it and reaches down with one hand and turns off the music with the other. He kisses me and then goes down on me. 30 minutes later, he drags me along into the shower together with him. Out of the shower and under the sheets he cuddles me as we continue talking about our lives. It's soon 4am and we decide to head to sleep. I wake up the next day and I quickly pack my bags to checkout. I take out the tip for him and handed it over but he looks at me surprised and returns me the money. I however had decided somewhere in the midst of our conversations the previous night that I wanted him to keep this tip. I knew that his rent was due soon (I asked him the first time when I offed him on a previous trip and somehow remembered the date). So I insisted on him keeping it and after awhile of insisting, he thanks me once again and keeps the money. I checkout and we head for lunch. After lunch, I was ready to say bye to him but he said that it was ok. He says that he would accompany me until I had to head back to the hotel to catch my ride to the airport so that I don't have to be alone. We idly walk around the mall and decided to catch a movie. Before we knew it, the movie came to an end and it was time. We say our goodbyes at the BTS station with me feeling all sad and wishing that I didn't have to go back. Ride to the airport and almost missed my flight due to the long security check lines along with the long immigration queue. I manage to get on my plane and am on my flight out of the LOS. firecat69, DivineMadman, ishfahan2 and 3 others 6 Quote
keniching Posted September 5, 2016 Author Posted September 5, 2016 Day 5 + Night 5 So I'm up the next day, I do a little bit of last minute shopping getting whatever that I missed out so far and then head back to the hotel for a quick shower before heading to dreamboys. I'm there at 9.30 on the dot, I look on stage and A is not there. I take a seat and look around and A is not there either. My mamasan friend approaches me and I order my drink. I ask him if A was around when he returns with my drink and he replied that he thinks A is downstairs. He asks if I'd like to inform him if I was here and I tell him to do so. Shortly later, I see A coming towards me and he gives me a big hug, indicates to his watch and says that I was punctual and that he had just gotten there as well. So punctuality does exist with some boys after all. I get a drink for him and we sit there talking about a lot of things. I of course ask him why didn't he inform me if he needed my help earlier and he says that he actually contemplated telling me that night when he asked if I wanted to see him. He was afraid that I wouldn't believe him, and that also he was embarrassed to raise the issue. He kept going back and forth over telling me and eventually decided to not let me know of the situation. He said that by coming to work instead of seeing me, he wouldn't have to worry about my reaction and how I'd view him after hearing of the story. He also apologized and thanked me for everything once again. We finish the discussion and I ask if he'd like to use the gym in the bar. He nods and runs off to the gym for abit while I talk to my mamasan friend. He returns shortly after and as the end of the night drew near, I pay up my bill for the last time this trip. I tip M, P, A, and two more boys who I found attractive on stage whom I haven't seen before. A looks at me and comments "oh oh oh, tonight you want many boy ah?". No, A was enough for me. I also hand over a tip to my friend and we head out of the bar. He lets me know that he's hungry after I asked and we decide to grab some food along Silom street. We sit there and talk for quite awhile and then hop into a taxi back to the hotel. Back in the hotel we talk about a lot of other things and soon it was 2am. It was getting late so I hit the showers first followed by him and continue on with our conversations after we hop into bed. We get to the topic of music and he starts playing mandarin music that he listens to asking if I listen to them as well. He also plays Thai music in between and sings along to them. I scrunch my face up in an effort to tell him that maybe him singing as a career may not be an option for him (He's actually not that horrible). He laughs at this and continues to do so. I keep making faces and he keeps singing alternating between Thai and mandarin songs on purpose. I'm happy to listen to him as it seemed that for once, he let his guard down and was just being himself, foolish, silly, but still so goddamn adorable. I use my hand to cover his mouth in an effort to muffle the sound. I recall that he was ticklish and I tickle him to make him "stop" singing. We soon get into a wrestling match every time a new song comes on. All the songs that he was listening to were songs from back in the day so I ask him why. He says that he likes the songs because it's what his parents listen to. As soon as he said it, the mood changes in the room and I see his eyes swell up with tears. He attempts to hide them from me by pretending that he's tired and uses his fingers to pinch the bridge of his nose. I hug him and we stay that way for abit. I ask him if he's fine later and he says that he was, pretending that nothing had happened. We get into the playful mood again and we're wrestling and rolling around on the bed. At one point, he's right on top of me and stares right into my eyes. The way he looked at me, I was so turned on that I don't think I've ever gotten so hard so fast in my life. He obviously feels it and reaches down with one hand and turns off the music with the other. He kisses me and then goes down on me. 30 minutes later, he drags me along into the shower together with him. Out of the shower and under the sheets he cuddles me as we continue talking about our lives. It's soon 4am and we decide to head to sleep. I wake up the next day and I quickly pack my bags to checkout. I take out the tip for him and handed it over but he looks at me surprised and returns me the money. I however had decided somewhere in the midst of our conversations the previous night that I wanted him to keep this tip. I knew that his rent was due soon (I asked him the first time when I offed him on a previous trip and somehow remembered the date). So I insisted on him keeping it and after awhile of insisting, he thanks me once again and keeps the money. I checkout and we head for lunch. After lunch, I was ready to say bye to him but he said that it was ok. He says that he would accompany me until I had to head back to the hotel to catch my ride to the airport so that I don't have to be alone. We idly walk around the mall and decided to catch a movie. Before we knew it, the movie came to an end and it was time. We say our goodbyes at the BTS station with me feeling all sad and wishing that I didn't have to go back. Ride to the airport and almost missed my flight due to the long security check lines along with the long immigration queue. I manage to get on my plane and am on my flight out of the LOS. eurasian, firecat69 and traveller123 3 Quote
DivineMadman Posted September 5, 2016 Posted September 5, 2016 Thanks for the great trip report! Quote
vinapu Posted September 5, 2016 Posted September 5, 2016 Sandbag is a cute phrase. I actually learned it here on this forum. Not only cute but very handy description- warm but not moving. But I must say sometimes I don't mind sandbag as long as he has great body to explore and is not rushing things, remember fondly one of Dreamboys who felled asleep immediately and so hard leaving me to explore him gently and undisturbed till morning. Full tip still and a smile until now at recollection Great report Keniching, I'm glad A story turned out as it supposed to, you have good heart leaving him with tip, chalk 4000 off as a merit. And certainly A has a class if he refused to take money in the first place. Being on time - I confirm it happens to boys quite often so I'm not that surprised although it could happen more often. But it's not easy perhaps in a big city like BKK with it's traffic and distances./ I know I'm looking for excuses for a boys / Quote
firecat69 Posted September 5, 2016 Posted September 5, 2016 IMHO The best thing that can happen when you are on your way home is to have a memory of going above and beyond for one of the boys and being rewarded in so many ways. Great Trip Report! Quote
Jasper Posted September 5, 2016 Posted September 5, 2016 I am glad that you had a great time with A. I am relieved to know he was a decent guy. Next time in Dreamboy I will be thinking about your story of A, looking all the boy on stage up and down and mumbling " Now which one of you is A?" Great little trip report. vinapu 1 Quote
keniching Posted September 7, 2016 Author Posted September 7, 2016 A bit of suspense story about "A". I think I would have done the same sending money as you mentioned 4000 B is not too much to lose since you regularly off the boy long time for 3000B. The worst case scenario ? He sent LINE messages to 5 regular customers. Even then you can get it back somehow if A comes back to Dreamboy anyway. I am surprised a popular Dreamboy's boy like A hasn't got that much money with him if what he claimed to be true. Actually, lining 5 regular customers would be best case scenario for him and not my worse case. The only real loss if it really was a lie would be 4000baht and probably my respect for him. I read A story with an interest and like everybody else I'm curious to learn how it will turn out. Since demands weren't exorbitant I think I'd fall into such a trap with view of having him in my room next night. Also I see an advantage of not providing boys with our contact information to avoid milking and creating awkward situation when we like boy but don't like his antics. I agree with you that boys would not be able to contact you regarding money matters if they don't have your contact. However it's a two way street and I would not be able to contact him as well if I wanted to "book" him for the day unless I showed up at the bar early, provided he chooses to work. vinapu 1 Quote
keniching Posted September 7, 2016 Author Posted September 7, 2016 I am glad that you had a great time with A. I am relieved to know he was a decent guy. Next time in Dreamboy I will be thinking about your story of A, looking all the boy on stage up and down and mumbling " Now which one of you is A?" Great little trip report. Thanks everybody for the kind words. For now, you may not have to rack your brains to try and figure out who A is as he is currently no longer working in the bar. He has left for his hometown to take care of his sick father and only time will tell if he'll be back soon. Quote