GoldMember Posted August 22, 2016 Posted August 22, 2016 After 2 years of betraying BKK with other cities, I got a surprising chance for a one week getaway to visit a friend of mine that recently moved to koh phangan. This trip is my last trip before me and my husband become parents so even though I only got 2 non consecutive nights in BKK and 4 nights in Koh Phangan- I'm determined to make the most out of it. Especially with my beloved BKK. 32yo muscular Israeli guy here. Since my last (and second) visit to BKK was 2 years ago, I wanna make sure I have my plans ready because there will be no time for mistakes. Here is what I plan on doing, would love to hear if you think my plans are good. Landing BKK at 4pm October 17th. It's a Monday so probably slow night but maybe that's good - more guys for me. Staying at the tarntawan. Thinking about going straight to Tawan. I have a muscle worship fetish to satisfy which is my first priority. After that probably will go to r3 or sauna mania. Any opinions where will there be more muscular asian guys? Morning/noon after must get a massage from a hot guy, thought about Arena. Am I right? What time should I get there? After that flying to Samui and straight on the ferry to Koh Phangan. Any thoughts on what to expect regarding gay fun there? Returning Saturday the 22nd to bkk. I think ill off a bodybuilder again in Tawan, then party late in DJ and GOD then sauna again till I'm dead. Probably massage the day after and maybe a visit to gay church - Babylon. Leaving Sunday night. Yes it is short. I know. No other choice. Any thoughts about new and better places to go other the ones I mentioned? I'm so happy and excited I managed to sqeeze BKK again P.S if anyone wants to meet for drinks (probably at tawan lol), msg me. Quote
Guest ryanasia Posted August 22, 2016 Posted August 22, 2016 Eat at the Smokin' Pug if you like BBQ and ribs. It is very close to that area. They also have killer Blood Mary's and G&T. Quite strong however be careful. lol Quote
DivineMadman Posted August 22, 2016 Posted August 22, 2016 You might keep The Prince in mind as an alternative to Arena. Quote
vinapu Posted August 23, 2016 Posted August 23, 2016 32yo muscular Israeli guy here. you are not forgotten, welcome back. Your Asia report from Oct 1-2014 is still among 20 most liked posts under ' most liked content' If I remember correctly you still owe us North Korea report LOL Arena should be opened around 1-2 already , there are credible reports that some Hero boys are working there now so it will suit you well. Don't forget Senso as an alternative. Have fun, Shalom ! Quote
ct2005 Posted August 23, 2016 Posted August 23, 2016 "32yo muscular Israeli guy" - the description alone makes me want to off u over a Tawan guy Manly69, GoldMember and vinapu 3 Quote
Guest whall Posted August 23, 2016 Posted August 23, 2016 North Korea? Id love to hear about that. Quote
GoldMember Posted August 25, 2016 Author Posted August 25, 2016 You might keep The Prince in mind as an alternative to Arena. I'll keep that in mind - but as a plan B right? Is there a consensus that the hottest (which is for me means muscular guys, age doesn't matter) are at Arena? Or it is just a matter of luck the time I come between Arena, Prince & Senso. you are not forgotten, welcome back. Your Asia report from Oct 1-2014 is still among 20 most liked posts under ' most liked content' If I remember correctly you still owe us North Korea report LOL Thanks, I did not know that there is a "most like content" page, that is nice I read the entire post again a couple of days ago and it made me smile and nostalgic. Writing is the best way to remember - otherwise all the fun details gets blurry and forgotten. Although I do still have a general memory that trip the details were forgotten and it's the details that makes things special and unique. So I'm really happy I took (a lot of) time to write that too long post. About NK - I do regret so much for not writing. I came back to TLV with all the intention of writing but my thesis needed much more urgent writing. Now, especially after re reading my long post - I really regret it cause most of the details are probably gone. "32yo muscular Israeli guy" - the description alone makes me want to off u over a Tawan guy LOL. No they are bigger than me - that's what makes these bodybuilders my fetish - They achieved what I'm slowly trying to but not succeeding on reaching that level. I just mentioned that in the mere hope that there is a BB in the crowd North Korea? Id love to hear about that. I do regret not writing about it while it is all still fresh in my head. NK was a part of a bigger east Asian trip I did last summer on my self (the army didn't let my husband enter NK). I did Beijing (2 nights), Pyongyang (4 nights), Shanghai (3 nights) and Seoul (4 nights). In general I can say about all the other places besides NK that what I did involved mainly fun, parties and Grindr guys LOL. On that manner china was kind of disappointing and Seoul was awesome. I did visit and do other stuff but that's way more blurry now in my memory. But this entire journey's purpose was visiting NK. It was an organised trip that flew to Pyongyang from Beijing. There are several agencies that do that. I used - Young Pioneer Tours. I regret not taking the longer trip options but I was scared of the thought of touring in a group and not being able to control my own itinerary so I took the short tour. It was the most fascinating experience I ever had as a traveler - it was landing back in time in a different planet with tight and weird rules. It is of course a heavily monitored tour by the NK government but even so you still get to be see and get a clue of that place. Of course you don't get to see the camps or horrible conditions - but they do expose you to some of the horrible poverty outside Pyongyang and by what they are willing you to see, you can only imagine how poor are the places they are not willing you to see. And of course we visited all the important cultural sites in Pyongyang. Highly recommended tour. About 1100 euors more or less. vinapu and Alexx 2 Quote
DivineMadman Posted August 25, 2016 Posted August 25, 2016 I don't think there is a consensus that Arena has the hottest guys. (Although "hottest" is of course relative.] Prince is a bit more upscale and charges a bit more, but the guys are more "model" good looks. The minimum tip at Prince is higher but it is full service - extras don't have to be negotiated at Prince, while they do at Arena - so at the end of the day I think the tip ends up to be the same. Basically the same as Arena as far as muscular guys. Prince usually has more guys than Arena - the "fishbowl" at Prince is bigger than where Arena is now. At Prince you are less likely to shower with your masseur - you typically shower by yourself before, and after is a toss-up. Senso - very hit or miss - sometimes there may be a good selection, sometimes not. [Vinapu will invariably say you only need one. ]. If you want to maximize chances, skip it. Far fewer guys than Prince or Arena. vinapu 1 Quote
Guest whall Posted August 25, 2016 Posted August 25, 2016 I'll keep that in mind - but as a plan B right? Is there a consensus that the hottest (which is for me means muscular guys, age doesn't matter) are at Arena? Or it is just a matter of luck the time I come between Arena, Prince & Senso. Thanks, I did not know that there is a "most like content" page, that is nice I read the entire post again a couple of days ago and it made me smile and nostalgic. Writing is the best way to remember - otherwise all the fun details gets blurry and forgotten. Although I do still have a general memory that trip the details were forgotten and it's the details that makes things special and unique. So I'm really happy I took (a lot of) time to write that too long post. About NK - I do regret so much for not writing. I came back to TLV with all the intention of writing but my thesis needed much more urgent writing. Now, especially after re reading my long post - I really regret it cause most of the details are probably gone. LOL. No they are bigger than me - that's what makes these bodybuilders my fetish - They achieved what I'm slowly trying to but not succeeding on reaching that level. I just mentioned that in the mere hope that there is a BB in the crowd I do regret not writing about it while it is all still fresh in my head. NK was a part of a bigger east Asian trip I did last summer on my self (the army didn't let my husband enter NK). I did Beijing (2 nights), Pyongyang (4 nights), Shanghai (3 nights) and Seoul (4 nights). In general I can say about all the other places besides NK that what I did involved mainly fun, parties and Grindr guys LOL. On that manner china was kind of disappointing and Seoul was awesome. I did visit and do other stuff but that's way more blurry now in my memory. But this entire journey's purpose was visiting NK. It was an organised trip that flew to Pyongyang from Beijing. There are several agencies that do that. I used - Young Pioneer Tours. I regret not taking the longer trip options but I was scared of the thought of touring in a group and not being able to control my own itinerary so I took the short tour. It was the most fascinating experience I ever had as a traveler - it was landing back in time in a different planet with tight and weird rules. It is of course a heavily monitored tour by the NK government but even so you still get to be see and get a clue of that place. Of course you don't get to see the camps or horrible conditions - but they do expose you to some of the horrible poverty outside Pyongyang and by what they are willing you to see, you can only imagine how poor are the places they are not willing you to see. And of course we visited all the important cultural sites in Pyongyang. Highly recommended tour. About 1100 euors more or less. I would love to go to NK, but way to scared! Definitely would interesting as hell. Quote
Guest whall Posted August 25, 2016 Posted August 25, 2016 I don't think there is a consensus that Arena has the hottest guys. (Although "hottest" is of course relative.] Prince is a bit more upscale and charges a bit more, but the guys are more "model" good looks. The minimum tip at Prince is higher but it is full service - extras don't have to be negotiated at Prince, while they do at Arena - so at the end of the day I think the tip ends up to be the same. Basically the same as Arena as far as muscular guys. Prince usually has more guys than Arena - the "fishbowl" at Prince is bigger than where Arena is now. At Prince you are less likely to shower with your masseur - you typically shower by yourself before, and after is a toss-up. Senso - very hit or miss - sometimes there may be a good selection, sometimes not. [Vinapu will invariably say you only need one. ]. If you want to maximize chances, skip it. Far fewer guys than Prince or Arena. OK. I think I would rather go to Prince if it's known as full service and tip for that is set. I like that better. Quote
vinapu Posted August 25, 2016 Posted August 25, 2016 I don't think there is a consensus that Arena has the hottest guys. (Although "hottest" is of course relative.] Prince is a bit more upscale and charges a bit more, but the guys are more "model" good looks. The minimum tip at Prince is higher but it is full service - extras don't have to be negotiated at Prince, while they do at Arena - so at the end of the day I think the tip ends up to be the same. Basically the same as Arena as far as muscular guys. Prince usually has more guys than Arena - the "fishbowl" at Prince is bigger than where Arena is now. At Prince you are less likely to shower with your masseur - you typically shower by yourself before, and after is a toss-up. Senso - very hit or miss - sometimes there may be a good selection, sometimes not. [Vinapu will invariably say you only need one. ]. If you want to maximize chances, skip it. Far fewer guys than Prince or Arena. I agree 125% with all the above assessment including my underline. It's just I vouch for Arena and Senso over Prince because I was always treated better in former two than the last one but still will be trying to give Prince a chance, perhaps my bad luck or I don't fit their boy's profile of preferred customer. DivineMadman 1 Quote
Londoner Posted August 26, 2016 Posted August 26, 2016 Arena has always been , for me, a full service joint... I've never considered negotiating. And, as I said previously, the guys are always naked from the start....something of an invitation, don't you think? vinapu 1 Quote
DivineMadman Posted August 26, 2016 Posted August 26, 2016 Arena has always been , for me, a full service joint... I've never considered negotiating. And, as I said previously, the guys are always naked from the start....something of an invitation, don't you think? So you really only have to pay 700 for full on oral and anal? That surprises me - but more power to you. When I go there I don't actually negotiate either - but I pay more than the 700. But what I am trying to inform people about is that the stated 700/hour tip is for limited services and either the guy will tell you during the massage if you want extras it will cost you "x" or if neither of you mentions it ahead of time, he will still be expecting more if you had extras beyond the limited included services. Same as the Soi Twilight spots, and many others. Personally, I prefer the places where the minimum tip for full services - it's just another thing not to worry about. Quote
Guest whall Posted August 26, 2016 Posted August 26, 2016 I agree. Just tell me what the minimum tip is for full service. I don't want to negotiate on the spot. Quote
vinapu Posted August 26, 2016 Posted August 26, 2016 I'd double the minimum one and round result up to the nearest 500 Quote
GoldMember Posted August 27, 2016 Author Posted August 27, 2016 I don't think there is a consensus that Arena has the hottest guys. (Although "hottest" is of course relative.] Ok so that settles it, I'll go for both of them - Arena & Prince I would love to go to NK, but way to scared! Definitely would interesting as hell. Nothing to be afraid of, unless you are a (not so smart) american student that decides to pull some pranks there (this happened just a few of months after my return). When you go there, they explain you the DO's and DON'T's. It's quite simple and not that intimidating as it sounds. Arena has always been , for me, a full service joint... I've never considered negotiating. And, as I said previously, the guys are always naked from the start....something of an invitation, don't you think? Guys are already naked?! I'll be there alright... Quote
vinapu Posted August 27, 2016 Posted August 27, 2016 Guys are already naked?! I'll be there alright... relax , not in the lobby ,but yes, in the room they will undress and have shower with you I'd be surprised if you will not like there Quote
GoldMember Posted August 27, 2016 Author Posted August 27, 2016 relax , not in the lobby ,but yes, in the room they will undress and have shower with you I'd be surprised if you will not like there Hehe glad you realized that I was imagining them all naked in the lobby, on display, waiting for me lol. Good thing you lowered my expectations for that to happen... GoldMember and vinapu 2 Quote
DivineMadman Posted August 27, 2016 Posted August 27, 2016 Masseurs naked during massage at a lot of the shops: Arena, Prince, V Club, Banana, Senso, any of the Soi Twilight shops, King Spa, and many others. vinapu 1 Quote
Guest 2guys Posted August 27, 2016 Posted August 27, 2016 Masseurs naked during massage at a lot of the shops: Arena, Prince, V Club, Banana, Senso, any of the Soi Twilight shops, King Spa, and many others. Interesting as I didn't know that it was the case in them all. I had been convinced by reading reviews to go to the new Banana on my short trip, but reading al the good comments and reports here on Arena, I'm thinking I need to change that... Still time to think it over till December. Quote
vinapu Posted August 28, 2016 Posted August 28, 2016 Hehe glad you realized that I was imagining them all naked in the lobby, on display, waiting for me lol. Good thing you lowered my expectations for that to happen... because reading your post I also imagined them standing in the lobby in Adam's suit which was kind of easy considering I actually had massages with quite a few arena boys , not to mention few long time offs as well Quote
vinapu Posted August 28, 2016 Posted August 28, 2016 I had been convinced by reading reviews to go to the new Banana on my short trip, but reading al the good comments and reports here on Arena, I'm thinking I need to change that... Still time to think it over till December. Even during shortest trip you can easily visit both shops in one day if necessary as both open early. Don't think too much , just do it ! Quote
Guest 2guys Posted August 28, 2016 Posted August 28, 2016 Even during shortest trip you can easily visit both shops in one day if necessary as both open early. Don't think too much , just do it ! Well I have been reading your whole report of you nine trip yesterday and it indeed seems I should go with you last question in the quote. I wonder how it will work out arriving at such a place with my boyfriend. He will enjoy it, that's for sure. Anyone knows if any of the masage spots has a couple room? Quote
vinapu Posted August 28, 2016 Posted August 28, 2016 Bangkok Massage soi Twilight has couple room, Arena in previous location had one but don't know about new one. VIP rooms at Senso have big beds so easily two massages can go on simultaneously You arrive with boyfriend , tell them you want both be massaged at the same time in the same room , they tell you if they accommodate you or not for lack of space or boys wanting to work together. Some boys may be reluctant so don't assume they all will do. In Arena and Bangkok Massage there are brothers working , they may not go together with the couple Quote
