kokopelli Posted August 23, 2016 Posted August 23, 2016 I have taken on board what "vinapu" said and decided not to let it bother me so I wont be mentioning it again otherwise it becomes a bitter obsession. That's the spirit! Quote
Guest Qualityonly Posted August 23, 2016 Posted August 23, 2016 Double Shot (old Corner Bar) now open again with the return of the owner. All of Me(s) is one of the "bright lights" in Sunee Plaza that is trying to alleviate the gloom along with Ting Tong Red, Sky and Double Shot. These businesses deserve praise and patronage, not criticism and boycott. Why shouldnt I criticise a bar where the waiter kept shaking that damn bottle every few minutes !You know how annoying that was? Very very annoying !!!! Quote
kokopelli Posted August 23, 2016 Posted August 23, 2016 I think I would have left after the first beer if that annoyed and likely not leave a tip. Quote
Alexx Posted August 23, 2016 Posted August 23, 2016 Yeah I have to agree, if it was THAT annoying, why stay for a princely three drinks? Makes no sense whatsoever. a447a and williewillie 2 Quote
Guest Qualityonly Posted August 23, 2016 Posted August 23, 2016 Because I thought he was going to leave me alone,but he kept up at it. Your right I should of got up at left maybe at the second drink but I didnt. Anyway its over now. Quote
a447a Posted August 23, 2016 Posted August 23, 2016 "I felt as if I had to take a sip everytime he looked at me." Perhaps you need to grow some balls and just tell the waiter you don't want another drink. Like others have pointed out, I've also never come across any pushy waiters at All of Me. Must be a new guy still learning the ropes. williewillie and halfhansum 2 Quote
kokopelli Posted August 26, 2016 Posted August 26, 2016 Here is a post made on Gaybuttonthai which highlights efforts made by TingTong Red in Sunee Plaza to bring light to the doom and gloom. I have seen the shows at TingTong Red and they are fun to watch. http://gaybuttonthai.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7934 Quote
Guest ryanasia Posted August 26, 2016 Posted August 26, 2016 Meatloaf with only pork? Sounds like he should stick to Cambodian and Thai food. Quote
vinapu Posted August 26, 2016 Posted August 26, 2016 Meatloaf with only pork? Sounds like he should stick to Cambodian and Thai food. what's wrong with that? It's not like it's only item on the menu Quote
Guest Qualityonly Posted August 26, 2016 Posted August 26, 2016 I think its too late for Sunee, I really do. I think the Landlord also has a role in this,why open a business with a maximum 1 year lease? Jomtien looks the go now. I will be going into Sunee tonight with 2 farang friends and their boyfriends,probaly have dinner at Sky Bar and do the bars EXCEPT All of me Bar which remains blackbanned. Cant wait to wave to the "bottle shaking" waiter on my way past. Yes I can be a nasty Queen. Quote
vinapu Posted August 27, 2016 Posted August 27, 2016 EXCEPT All of me Bar which remains blackbanned. Cant wait to wave to the "bottle shaking" waiter on my way past. Yes I can be a nasty Queen. let it go, you are spoiling your vacations by being so bitter over issue really trivial in great scheme of things Quote
Gaybutton Posted August 27, 2016 Posted August 27, 2016 let it go That waiter might not even really have been a waiter. Sometimes boys freelance there. In any case, I think it's unfair to blacklist the place if he hasn't even spoken to Gary, the owner. Gary probably isn't even be aware of a problem. If he is made aware of it, I know him well enough to know he'll do something about it. And I agree with A447a. If a waiter is being pushy, what's the hard part about telling him not to bother you about another drink unless you call him over? What Qualityonly saw as being pushy might have simply been the waiter's idea of trying to be accommodating. Whenever I go to Sunee Plaza, I always start out at All of Me. I have never been subjected to a pushy waiter there and I have never seen anyone subjected to a pushy waiter, and as far as I know Qualityonly is the only person who has ever had this complaint. kokopelli and halfhansum 2 Quote
vinapu Posted August 27, 2016 Posted August 27, 2016 at least it looks that both All of Me and Ting Tong are trying to enliven Sunee and we all should applaud them even if Sunee is not our #1 destination in Pattaya / my case but I like Good Boys for fun factor / williewillie, biguyby and kokopelli 3 Quote
Alexx Posted August 27, 2016 Posted August 27, 2016 In any case, I think it's unfair to blacklist the place if he hasn't even spoken to Gary, the owner. Gary probably isn't even be aware of a problem. If he is made aware of it, I know him well enough to know he'll do something about it. I don't know, Gaybutton. If I were a farang running a business specifically catering to gay farang in Pattaya, as Gary does, I would make sure to read all the relevant boards. This one here, yours and SGT. If you really think he doesn't do that and is therefore unaware of what is being posted about his bar, I'd say that alone pretty much disqualifies him to do his job in this day and age. Quote
Gaybutton Posted August 27, 2016 Posted August 27, 2016 I don't know, Gaybutton. If I were a farang running a business specifically catering to gay farang in Pattaya, as Gary does, I would make sure to read all the relevant boards. Gary does read my board. Whether he reads any others, I have no idea. I never asked. In any case, suppose he's reading this topic. Unless someone with a complaint about a waiter speaks to him directly and points out the waiter, how is he supposed to know which waiter the person is complaining about? And how is he supposed to know whether to believe the complainer at face value or if it's just somebody making a mountain out of a molehill? As for other bar owners, I don't know what boards they read, if any. Quote
firecat69 Posted August 27, 2016 Posted August 27, 2016 There was a time when more owners read the Boards. I think they went away for 2 reasons: 1. Unsubstantiated criticisms that nobody else seemed to experience. 2. Tired of people with no Bar or restaurant experience being experts on how a Bar should be run. Many people with no money invested seem to think they know better and most of the time they don't. It is just plain not easy for a Farang to run a Bar in Thailand. Moses and kokopelli 2 Quote
vinapu Posted August 27, 2016 Posted August 27, 2016 ...speaks to him directly and points out the waiter, how is he supposed to know which waiter the person is complaining about? I think it''s not about disciplining that waiter but rather about letting all of them know what potentially may upset client whether he is right or not. There was a time when more owners read the Boards. I think they went away for 2 reasons: 1. Unsubstantiated criticisms that nobody else seemed to experience. 2. Tired of people with no Bar or restaurant experience being experts on how a Bar should be run. Many people with no money invested seem to think they know better and most of the time they don't. 1. That happens in all service industries, sometimes it seems that with some clients you will never win, even if you kiss their ass they will still complain about the lipstick's color. But still it may be worthwhile to know what may cause a problem , even if unreasonable. /very recent example from my workplace - client complained about fire extinguisher being very unsightly, which it is but but it's very nature must be very visible and accessible. With every word she seemed more and more agitated, staff did not want to offend her by responding back , fortunately one of clients present stepped in and told her you know what / 2.That is annoying but old truth 'if something can't be done find somebody who doesn't know it , and he will do it" sometimes may be applicable. I think either you or Michael one commented on how BoyzBoyzBoyz turned around from near disaster to being in opinion of at least one person / it would be me / best bar in the whole LOS. So obviously one owner did not know what to do and next one did. Quote
kokopelli Posted August 27, 2016 Posted August 27, 2016 I will be going into Sunee tonight with 2 farang friends and their boyfriends,probaly have dinner at Sky Bar and do the bars EXCEPT All of me Bar which remains blackbanned. Hope you check out Eros Bar, Nice Boys and Good Boys but don't be offended if they shake their wieners in your face. Vessey, vinapu, biguyby and 1 other 4 Quote
firecat69 Posted August 27, 2016 Posted August 27, 2016 2.That is annoying but old truth 'if something can't be done find somebody who doesn't know it , and he will do it" sometimes may be applicable. I think either you or Michael one commented on how BoyzBoyzBoyz turned around from near disaster to being in opinion of at least one person / it would be me / best bar in the whole LOS. So obviously one owner did not know what to do and next one did. You are partially right. For years Boyz was the #1 Bar in Thailand and lawsuits among partners and the original man behind the success , led to it going downhill. New management has raised it back up to where I guess it can compete for #1 . Originally there was no Bar that competed with it. vinapu 1 Quote
Gaybutton Posted August 27, 2016 Posted August 27, 2016 I think it''s not about disciplining that waiter but rather about letting all of them know what potentially may upset client whether he is right or not. He may have already done that, but it's not that simple. It doesn't mean the staff is always going to listen. Talk to bar owners and restaurant owners. They'll invariably complain that one of the toughest problems is training the staff. They can be told over and over again what to do and what not to do, but they just don't listen. The owner of All of Me is on top of those kinds of things when he is made aware of them. Just a couple months ago one of the boys wanted to have his birthday party at the bar and wanted to set up a loudspeaker with music. Gary told him he can't be there that night, but he'll allow it. He instructed the boy that the speaker needs to be set up in the back of the bar and he was quite specific about the volume level limit. The boy understood perfectly. Meanwhile the boy knew Gary wasn't going to be there. Instead of doing as he was instructed, he set up the loudspeaker at the entrance to the bar and the music was played at full volume, driving off most of the customers, including the regulars. I was not there that night, but I was there the next night. Gary had no idea he had been disobeyed. I was right there when some of the regulars informed him what had happened. Gary was furious. The "birthday boy" was not there. Among the things Gary said was, "Tomorrow, somebody's going to be out of a job." He meant it. The boy was fired as soon as he showed up the next night. Now that same boy is a go-go boy in Eros. Quote
halfhansum Posted August 27, 2016 Posted August 27, 2016 Thinking about it, I have had some boys in other bars look to see if my bottle is empty, but they are not trying to sell me another drink, they are just being attentive to the customers needs .. So I think the poor kid in All of Me, was probably only trying to be helpful .. kokopelli and biguyby 2 Quote
kokopelli Posted August 28, 2016 Posted August 28, 2016 Here is website for All of Me Bar including contact info: http://www.allofmesuneeplaza.com/contact-us/ The OP may contact the owner and express his concerns. Please tell us about your experience at All of Me and All of Me too. Your comments, suggestions, compliments and criticisms about us and our staff are appreciated. You can contact us with general queries here Perhaps the offending waiter could be flogged in public on his bare butt using feather dusters? halfhansum 1 Quote
Alexx Posted August 28, 2016 Posted August 28, 2016 Perhaps the offending waiter could be flogged in public on his bare butt using feather dusters? People might like it so much they will need to find another boy for a flogging each and every night henceforth... kokopelli 1 Quote
vinapu Posted August 28, 2016 Posted August 28, 2016 Perhaps the offending waiter could be flogged in public on his bare butt using feather dusters? this would be great contribution to Sunee Plaza revival halfhansum and Moses 2 Quote
williewillie Posted August 29, 2016 Posted August 29, 2016 Sad to report, I just read on gaybuttonthai that Allofme bar beer and allofmetoo bar beer/ massage are both closing permanently. This will contribute to the further deterioration of Sunee Plaza as a gay area and additional darkness. Quote